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Almost every creator eventually asks the same question, should I have an LLC?
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Maybe you've wondered about this yourself.
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Maybe you've started a podcaster, YouTube channel, or maybe you're building a following
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on social media and things are starting to gain traction.
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And at some point, someone says, you should probably set up an LLC.
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And that's when the questions start.
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Is it really necessary?
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And maybe the biggest question of all, does my little podcast really need a company behind
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Well, here's the truth most creators eventually discovered.
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If your content is going to power a real business, the structure needs to exist first,
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because the business needs somewhere to live.
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Now, today we're going to be talking about why so many creators wait too long to form
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an LLC and why the smartest creators build that infrastructure first.
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Welcome back to legit podcast pro on Gordon Firemark, the podcast lawyer, and for more
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than three decades now, I have been working with creators, media producers, entrepreneurs
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and entertainment companies, helping them protect and grow their businesses and behind them
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And lately, I've been talking a lot about something I call the modern media mogo mindset.
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It's the idea that creators shouldn't just think about making content.
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They should think about building a business that works from that content.
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Now, last week, we talked about one of the biggest myths in podcasting.
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The idea that the podcast itself is the business, but the truth is actually something very different.
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Your podcast isn't the business, it's the engine that powers it.
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And that leads to an important question.
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If your podcast is powering a real business, where does that business actually live?
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Now, before we talk about companies and LLCs, let's take a step back.
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Imagine that you're building something valuable, a brand, an audience, a body of content,
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a reputation, those things are incredibly powerful assets.
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Your audience trusts you.
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Your content carries those ideas of yours.
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Your brand becomes recognizable.
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That is the land that you're building on, but land by itself isn't protection.
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Land is just the place where something valuable might grow.
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And what's important is that it's your land.
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I mean, after all, you can build the most beautiful beach house in the world, but if you
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don't own the beach, it's only a matter of time before some owner comes along and evicts
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Now, if you want to build something to last, you really need to have a structure as well.
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And this is where your LLC comes in.
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Modern media mogo folks understand something that many, many creators tend to overlook.
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If you want your podcast to power a real business, that infrastructure has to come first.
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The company becomes the foundation.
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It's the container that holds the brand, the content, the revenue, all the intellectual
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property, and all of the relationships.
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Think of it like the castle keep.
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Inside that structure is where the valuable things are kept and the important people live.
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The brand, the intellectual property, the content library, the deals, the revenue streams,
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the partnerships, the audience information.
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Without the keep, everything else is just sitting there exposed.
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When creators operate without a company, everything they build exists in their personal name.
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The brand, the contracts, the money, the liability, all of it.
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And that's not how durable businesses are built.
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Modern media moguls build the structure first, so the success that follows has somewhere
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Now, one of the biggest mistakes I see creators waiting too long to form an LLC.
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And the reasons are usually really, really very similar.
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They say things like, my show is still small, or I'm not making money yet, or I'll deal
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with that later, or sometimes I just don't want to deal with the paperwork, or I don't
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know what I need to do.
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And I understand the instinct.
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When you're just starting out, you want to focus on creating, not filling out forms.
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But the irony is that success often arrives faster than creators expect.
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An audience grows, sponsorship opportunities appear, partnerships start to form, revenue
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streams start opening up, and suddenly, the creator realizes something important.
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They're behind eight ball.
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All of this activity is happening in their personal name, which means they're liable for
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anything bad that happens.
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They're on the hook.
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It means the business structure is being built after the fact, and fixing structure after
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growth happens is almost always harder than doing it right from the beginning.
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Now, once the LLC exists, it becomes the structure, as I said, that holds that business together.
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Think of it like the walls of the castle, the walls organize and protect what's happening
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This includes things like opening business bank accounts, separating personal finances
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from business finances, signing contracts in the company's name, not your own, owning
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intellectual property in the name of the company, not your own, running deals and partnerships
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through the company, where the company is the signer of the contracts.
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These things might sound like just administrative trivia, but they're actually really, really
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Because when the company operates properly, it creates that separation.
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The creator exists as an entity separate from the business, and that separation protects
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the person behind the brand when things go wrong, go awry, I should say.
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Now, around the castle keep and the walls, you'll also see a moat, right?
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The moat makes it harder for problems to reach the structure.
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In the creator world, the moat includes things like the contracts, the trademark and copyright
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registrations, the contracts with collaborators, advertising agreements, all your policies
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Each of these things adds another layer of protection around the business that you're building.
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And that's why we're spending the next few episodes talking about these different layers.
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Because building a media business isn't just about producing content.
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It's about protecting the structure behind the content, and without the moat in place,
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the protection in place, it's kind of like leaving the drawbridge down all the time.
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You know, the bad things will just find their way in.
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So you really want to get this taken care.
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So now let's simplify a little bit about today.
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And LLC does three very important things for the creator.
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First, it separates personal liability from business activity.
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If something goes wrong in the business, the company is the first line of exposure.
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Next, it creates a professional structure for revenue and deals, partnership responsibilities,
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sponsors, collaborators.
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Everybody are far more comfortable working with a company than they'll ever be working
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with just an individual creator.
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And thirdly, it creates clarity around ownership.
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The company can own the brand, it can own the content, it can enter agreements, and that
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clarity becomes incredibly important as the business grows.
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So modern media moguls think about these things earlier than most creators do.
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They understand that the podcast, the YouTube channel, or the social platform is the engine.
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The engine needs somewhere to live.
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They need a structure that can support the business being built around them.
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Modern media moguls don't wait until success arrives to build the structure.
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Now they build the structure now, so success will have somewhere to land and to live.
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Now let's come back to the big idea here in this episode, should creators have an LLC?
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Well, in many cases, the answer is yes.
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But the deeper point is this, if you're building a brand, if you're building an audience,
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if you're building revenue streams around your content, building merchandise lines and
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other brands as well, you're building a business and businesses need structure.
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Modern media moguls know that a structure isn't an afterthought, it's the foundation,
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it needs to be built first and it needs to be built right.
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Now if you're thinking about your podcaster creator platform as part of a real business,
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I've created a resource that I think will help.
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It's called the legal checklist for podcasters and it walks through the key legal and structural
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foundations that creators should have in place as their shows grow.
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You can download it at podcasterchecklist.com, that's singular podcasterchecklist.com.
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It's a great starting point for making sure your podcaster, any platform that you're working
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with, a YouTube channel, a social media channel, whatever, make sure that that's built
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Now in this episode, we've talked about the importance of that LLC, that foundation,
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that container, but just forming an LLC doesn't automatically solve all of your problems.
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In fact, there are several mistakes that smart creators make with LLCs that can quietly
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destroy the protections they thought they had.
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So next time, we're going to talk about those mistakes, things like mixing personal and
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business related money, signing deals the wrong way, failing to assign the intellectual
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property into the company, and lots of other issues that can weaken the structure that
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you worked hard to build.
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So that's our next episode where we'll talk about the LLC mistakes creators make and how
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Till then, I'm Gordon Firemark, the podcast lawyer.
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This has been legit podcast pro, and I will see you next time.