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While Izzy is still red hot about the reaction to Bam Adebayo's big night for the Miami Heat, Stugotz, Mikey and Stugotz finally get to discuss the shady business going on with Maxx Crosby and the Ravens. Plus, Mark DeRosa's believing that the U.S. World Baseball Classic team already punched their ticket to the next round before losing to Italy might be the most embarrassing mistake in baseball.
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Yeah, that Chuck Norris was tracing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
The Rex was not chasing the Jeep.
Murray, Murray, are you there?
You love sandwiches, huh?
Let's go to 80.
He was bow.
Wow.
That's prime time, maybe.
Nah, I had a crush on Betty Rubble.
I honestly, until after the segment ended,
and we went to commercial break,
had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
He caught them the game last night,
although they won the game.
You're listening to Stukatsu Company.
A tailor put it on the pole that Eric's supposed to relieve the heat and assist last night.
Unbelievable, man.
Is he just won't stop?
He's going to mad at me.
I'm not mad at you.
I know you're just trying to get me heated.
There's Steve coming out of your headphones.
Miami heated.
Who cares if I or Mikey A or Taylor or Frank,
I sold up.
Why do you keep out of Frank?
What did he say?
He didn't say anything.
He's just an NBA name that comes to mind.
Tim Legler, PJ Carlisim.
Who cares if they get banned?
If they get banned, his flowers.
You're giving them to them.
And you saw the game.
You watched the game.
You witnessed history last night.
So who cares what we say?
You know what else?
I also watched the Kobe Bryant game.
I watched that game, the 81 point game.
Not live while it happened.
I just literally watched the very first replay that I could watch.
And I don't know if you remember that game,
but it's not like he had a huge first half and then had to maintain it.
He had a decent first half and then had a great third quarter
and then had a great fourth quarter.
And some would argue he didn't need to be in that game lady there.
So yeah, but it's Kobe.
I want to see him play till the end.
Go ahead.
And also Frank.
I saw it did weigh in on Twitter.
Yeah.
Michael Jordan's and Kobe Bryant's career highs for free throw attempts
in a regular season game is 27.
Meanwhile in Miami,
give me a break.
Bam currently has 41.
Luke Cornett needs to weigh in on this nonsense in Miami.
So again, somebody else just looking at the box.
Gore, thanks Frank.
Well, Frank.
Yes.
Taylor.
If you watched the game,
first they could not stop fouling him.
And don't give me every time the Miami Heat do something that shocks the world
like win a championship in 2006.
And all you want to do is credit the officials for giving them all the free throws.
Go show me the ones that weren't fouls.
Go.
Taylor, I don't know if you can get bam today.
Don't get them.
If you can get Max Crosby today.
Don't get them.
The only guest I want on today is Frank Isola.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I didn't even get to finish what Frank Isola said,
because he ended it with one more.
He said,
that's heat culture.
Question mark.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
I will pay him to come on the show today.
I'm serious.
No idea what that means.
What does that mean?
Yes.
That a guy who could not even shoot from outside the paint when he got drafted,
developed into a dude who has scored the most point in the game
that anybody can prove that they've watched.
Okay.
That's not heat culture.
Developing from nothing to something amazing is not heat culture.
I don't even know what that means.
Yeah.
Can we get to the number one story now?
The number one story on all the sports sites.
Wait, let me let me read the number nine story story on ESP Ravens Pivot
agreed to add Hendrickson.
Yes.
But listen to the number one story for this show is Frank Isola at three things
today on the radio.
Okay.
Like Taylor text them now.
I desperately want him to come on and poke his e on the whole band out of bio thing
because I've never seen him like this.
This is my friend.
I've known him for years.
And I have never seen him this fired up or emotional.
I'm just a fan of fairness.
It's all okay.
Fairness.
Okay.
Okay.
Was it fair?
What the Ravens did to Max Crosby and the Raiders yesterday.
They found the loophole.
They found the better deal would trade Hendrickson.
And all of a sudden they didn't want Max Crosby anymore.
But they did two first round picks back.
Can somebody explain to me why the Raiders put out that statement instead of the Ravens.
It just seemed very sudden and cryptic.
But it was from the and it was from the team that got rejected.
I mean the Raiders are pissed off.
Yeah.
And the Raiders made a whole bunch of deals.
They made a whole bunch of deals based on their current situation on that salary moving away
and going to Baltimore.
They have two first round picks from Baltimore.
They have to kind of recalibrate everything they were going to do here in the off season, you know.
And so their answer is just, hey, let me get this out here quickly and show how angry I am.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not only that, you get to say that they backed out of the deal as opposed to the deal fell apart.
Or the you don't let the Ravens come out and say, oh, the men let some of the narrative say.
Huh?
Yeah.
He's not going to let it go.
Exactly.
I sold it.
And that works in football, but not in the NBA.
Yes.
Oh, football shady.
I mean, let's be honest.
Yeah.
So Diana Rossini's reporting on this was it's been made clear by multiple people around the NFL at all levels that Baltimore had all the information and understood where Max Crosby's knee was in terms of his recovery timeline.
Yeah.
Many in the league believe GM Eric DeCosta and the Ravens ultimately just got cold feet.
Yeah.
The immediate response from that trade stew was that was a lot to give up from Max Crosby, right?
So is he what did I say to you right before the radio radio just started yesterday and we didn't go.
We didn't I never went on air with it, but I said to you Max Crosby's a bit overrated.
I'm not certain he's worth two first round picks.
That's exactly what I said to you.
The Ravens did know the injury problems.
Of course they did.
They knew exactly what they were getting.
Yes, they had buyers remorse and they also had a guy in Trey Hendrickson that was coming in at a better value.
Like under market value for his production at his position.
And they're like, hey, we can just sign this guy without giving up two first round picks.
I feel like that happened in a much smaller scale in the NBA.
If you remember when the Lakers tried to trade from Mark Williams for Charlotte,
and it was like a done deal not all of a sudden it wasn't because of the reaction from the rest of the nation.
They were like, wait, what for that guy?
And then they're like, I never mind.
We'll go backward.
And so I love that they did that because it made for interesting discussion points.
But how is that even something that can still happen?
Like, if you announced a trade, if you, like, if you agree to a trade,
just have the physicals done first.
I know that makes everything impossible to keep under wraps because if a guy's going to get a physical,
it's going to come out or what have you.
But that's got to be done before they agree to a trade because this loophole seems unfair.
Well, that's the whole point of the legal tampering.
Now they made the trade and then the legal tampering period happens.
And the Ravens realized, you know what?
We don't have to give up two first round picks.
We can spend the same amount of money and go get tray Hendrickson who they then signed.
And we get to keep our two first round picks.
And then we just get to go and look and go, oh, no, the physical.
He didn't pass it.
Meanwhile, as Diana's pointing out, they have every single thing that you could possibly want at all the medicals.
So all they did was they got called fee.
So it sounds like, right.
And a better deal.
Yes.
But it sounds like maybe you shouldn't have a period where you just call it legal tampering.
Like you should just do something that's illegal.
So it's just like when you do something shady, it's like, it doesn't matter.
It's the purge.
We can do whatever we want.
The chapter was really salty about it when he when he was asked.
He goes, there is no such thing as legal tampering period.
Free agency started at noon yesterday on Monday when they opened the legal tamper.
That's when free agency started.
Right.
And now if you're the Raiders, you're kind of in a bad spot because other teams have already begun to give out deals.
And now if you're a team trading for Max Crosby, the price is probably not going to be two first round picks.
So the Raiders are looking at a situation where they either have to come off their price of wanting to first round picks or settle for for less for somebody like Max Crosby.
But if I am a team that thinks a player like Max Crosby could put me over the edge.
I kind of take that risk right now because at the very least you're going to get a pretty inspired Max Crosby because I think he's going to want to prove to the Ravens like, hey, you probably should have went through with that trade.
Yeah, but to your point, the Cowboys with the other team that was, you know, they were going to be super aggressive and going after Max Crosby.
And they have made other deals and some other guys.
And now perhaps they can't do it, you know, like, I think we can't just do free agency all over again.
I was going to say, yeah, they can backtrack.
Can't other people? I know we agreed upon this, but Max Crosby is available now.
So, well, to that end, a few reporters, a Dianne Racini included has been saying that this is going to change the way agents will deal with the Ravens going forward.
That this was actually kind of a big deal in their circles where teams are teams and agents are going to be much more reluctant to negotiate and good faith with the Ravens after this move.
Right. It's a, it's a convenient loophole.
They realized over time they didn't have to, they were given up too much for a guy who's coming off an injury and they use the doctors as an excuse and physical as an excuse to get out of a deal they didn't want to do.
And in large part because Tray Hendrickson's available and they don't have to give up two first round picks to get him.
I just feel bad for Max Crosby. I do. He's a guy who wanted to get out of Las Vegas wanted to get out of that bad situation and was put on one of the best teams in the NFL with one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL.
And now he's got to go back to Las Vegas, you know, and part of his reputation is a bit, you know, I want to say smeared here.
Because now people are going to question just how healthy Max Crosby is when he's prop when he himself said, hey, I'm way ahead of schedule here.
I'm going to be good to go next year. But now you have question more because it teams medical staff has looked at Max Crosby and deemed him not ready to go or not good enough to go through with the trade.
And so I feel bad for Max. I really do in this entire situation.
And he put out that that heartfelt video thanking Vegas for their start and all that stuff. And now you got to go back.
Now you got to go back and play for them when they told you they didn't want you. They revamped the whole defense.
And now you just got to be like, oh, I guess I'm still part of this. Or if you're the Raiders, you got to try and find somebody that's willing to give you something close to what the Ravens did.
No one will.
To the point of the Raiders revamping their roster, they add Tyler Linderbaum at center. They add Quay Walker and Nicobie Dean at linebacker that they add J on nailer at receiver.
You know who's a good piece to add to that.
Max Crosby.
Max Crosby.
Then you draft Fernando Mendoza and all the sudden.
Yeah, you're talking to myself into the Raiders.
With eight minutes and 50 seconds left in the game, it was a 19 point game. You're going to call that a crazy blowout.
Listen, every time Victor Wimbanyama is in a fourth quarter and his team is up by 19 or more has asked me to get out here.
That needs to get out.
Or we're doing an emergency pod where we're criticizing those points that he gets afterward.
What a bunch of bullshit.
So the culture all in on Daniel.
Yeah, it's all two years for 88 million with a possibility of it being 100 million.
That's bananas for Daniel Jones.
Yep. They should try to get out of that.
Call the Ravens and ask how it's done.
So do I just find something on the record that he missed?
You know how many points he would have had if he didn't miss his free throws.
Let's see.
If Ben would have made all of his free throws, that's another.
Man, another seven points. He would have had 90.
He wouldn't have 90.
He only got 43.
44 million for Daniel Jones.
The cults are garbage.
That's that's, I mean, seriously.
So the cults think this is what they think in the AFC.
There's Lamar Jackson, right?
There's Patrick Mahomes.
There's Josh Allen.
Patriots and Drake May.
There's Gino Smith.
The cults think that they're going to come at these teams with Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce.
And one less talented receiver for the, for the cults.
What's that? Why are you making a phase?
Because weren't the cults doing just that before?
They were doing roots.
Yeah.
Yes.
And then he got hurt.
Yes.
And two of the guys you mentioned Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes.
He had Joe Burrill because I know you're going to mention Joe Burrill at some point.
Yeah.
Didn't even make the playoffs.
I'm also two days removed from saying maybe, you know, just having an average quarterback is good enough.
If you put the right pieces around him, but they don't have the right pieces around him.
I mean, they don't, Alec Pierce, get out of here.
I know Max Crosby isn't with the Ravens anymore, but when people were feeling bad for Joe Burrill
because of all these defensive ends that he had to face right in their division,
how about feeling bad for the offensive tackles?
You've got to face those guys every single down.
Joe Burrill might get sacked three or four times,
but those guys got to go against them every time the ball is snapped.
I love the idea of Burrill getting sacked by the guy didn't go to bat fort and try Hendrix in.
Oh, God.
That's great.
It's circle that's the vision on the calendar.
I didn't expect him in Baltimore.
Uh-oh.
That's what I mean.
Uh-oh.
Do you think any Ravens fans got Max Crosby jerseys within the past couple of days?
Absolutely.
Yes.
You can return that though.
Yeah.
Or can you?
I wonder if the NFL is going to step in here.
I mean, listen, what they did was legal.
Okay.
Uh-oh, but I do wonder if the NFL will step in here because it just,
it feels so wrong.
It's us.
Can you do that, though?
Can you put the toothpaste back in the jar or back in the tube when you have the Ravens?
And you've got to bring him back.
I mean, I don't think that's right.
Force it through.
How, how awkward would that be?
No, no, no, no, no.
You are taking Max Crosby here, Max.
Here's Baltimore.
And he just has to walk in the facility and just look around and go,
you motherfuckers.
I love that.
You think Lamar had anything to do with this?
I mean, just.
Like I want to say to pieces that we didn't eat that piece.
We didn't have to give up too first.
Like I hope he did.
I really did.
Listen, check in five years from now and see where Alex Sartre, Tray Johnson,
Balal Kulabali, Bob Carrington and Will Riley are.
Those are five good players.
Sure.
One of them is going to break it.
Bam at a bios record.
Well, that's the other thing.
That's the names we're talking about.
What this is going to do.
And I love this.
Okay.
I'm telling you this is going to happen.
The floodgates have been open for if anybody's having a great game through a half,
they're no question they're going to go after that record.
Good luck.
I challenge every NBA player who has a hot first quarter.
Go try to get 83.
See if that works out for you.
Well, if Spowe is their coach, I mean.
If Spowe is their coach, they'll have the best chance possible to do it.
Because they'll be developed like a mother bleeper.
Yes.
Well,
he'll keep them in the game when he shouldn't be in the game.
Well, he should have seven minutes ago.
Who do you want to put in the game there?
Here.
I'll give you a name.
Vladislav Golden.
Did you want to close it?
I did.
You are against the Wizards.
Sure.
This is all I'm saying.
Kobe would have took himself out of the game.
Golden was great at FAU.
Trevor Keels was great at Duke.
There you go.
Yep.
And they have been nothing in the NBA.
I can't believe the U.S.
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this is why sports is so great on a random Tuesday night you had bam do what
bam did what you want to question it or not Frank I sold it to stop there to just stop
the damn bam did it for a bunch of wait too many minutes you have max cross be traded
to the Ravens the Ravens put him through a physical and they say yeah he's not healthy
enough goodbye max cross can you go back to the Las Vegas Raiders we're going to sign
tray Hendrix in and then you have what happened in the world baseball classic and I am just
stuck on this because I do think that marked the rows of their manager for not knowing
the rules of his own tournament should be fired and never allowed to manage again in
majorly baseball period the discussion I can't think of another embarrassment that large
like you are telling the world our guys are tired from celebrating something that didn't
actually happen yet and then let's just play this forward and hopefully fingers crossed
I know this sounds and on patriotic hopefully they don't advance because that would probably
be will sting as the most embarrassing admission then I can think of can you guys think of
anything else no no and while you've been walking around telling everybody hey this is the
best roster the USA has ever brought to an international baseball competition yeah I know
it says embarrassing as it gets in sports is he to not know the to premature celebration
for something that you didn't accomplish I can't imagine it being more embarrassing than
that no it's a game stew that is all about numbers there's so many numbers in baseball
it's mind blowing this is the most simple of situations hey do we advance no okay we need
this win cool got it going into the game that's all you need to do meanwhile marked a
row so probably knows you know what this pinch hitter you know hits against lefties in
the clutch like he got all these numbers in his head he can't figure out whether his team
needs a winner or loss yeah it's pretty sad where does the Rosa Manage he she's TV host
what's not even a manager we have a TV analyst who is managing our team this is ridiculous
it's absurd of course he doesn't know the rules well you can't have a current manager managing
the world baseball classic they have other jobs they have to do so they have to go to the
they went to the guy who had eight hits in the last world baseball classic for American
girls you got a bunch of hits you can manage the team oh nice I like that whoever gets the
most hits is our next manager also I'm a little suspicious because I'm looking at the last name
Derosa and seeing us losing to the Italians I'm wondering if there was some I think they're
right I think we're getting to the more we talk it out we're getting to the bottom of it you
think something fishy fishy was going on Derosa was grooving it in for for he told the United
States hey we won we're good and he did it for Italy yes so we already saw it once with
Chauncey Billups I think somebody got to mark Derosa oh wow I loved this team this Italian team when
I saw them doing espresso shots in the dugout okay and I saw a report where is it Vinnie Pasco and Tino
I guess he plays for the Italian team is that right Taylor it's not like it fits yeah
Pascal okay well he just doesn't fit it's unlike bam on the scoring list anyway go ahead when he
was yelling it running into the clubhouse saying where's the fucking wine with it says I mean wow
so Italian I knew Martin Derosa's from Paseyek New Jersey yeah it's through pick that up claim
sorry I mean Martin Derosa's from Paseyek New Jersey this whole thing with like guys who aren't
born in the country that they're playing for is absurd like if you were born in Italy play for
team Italy if you were born a Paseyek New Jersey then play for team USA so is he when team Italy
hits a home run not only do they take an espresso shot Vinnie Pasco Tino comes and gives them a
double kiss and then Italy wins last night and they're blasting Andre Bocelli whoever was on the
call for the game was like this is such a huge night for Italy baseball there are probably less
than 50 baseball fields in Italy my dad was born and raised in Italy till he was like mid-20s if
I called him right now and said dad you see what happened Italy baseball he would have absolutely
we have a baseball team you know what the Napoli soccer team does but no nothing about this
baseball team man did you see by the way not to switch subjects back to Max Crosby but did you see
the funniest the funniest part of that Max Crosby story as there was somebody Ravens fan who went
online and said a shave his head that he'd shave his head if Baltimore added the defensive lineman
and then he went through with it they all was here back I mean he tweeted I'm bald now and Max
Crosby isn't a Raven what has my life become listen baby steps man at least you took it back to Max
Crosby instead of bam at a bio we're getting somewhere like I'm trying to trying to call my rage
I'm trying to keep you know what happy like you said I got one for you is he I had a buddy send me
a screenshot of his fandall bet he bet the bam at a bio under yesterday 25 and a half points oh my
god you know what 80 you're good you've already you've already surpassed my 80 way 25 point bet at
the end of the first quarter don't have to watch the rest of that game I'm not too mad about that
it would be annoying if you bet the under and bam scored 26 yes 1000 percent that's exactly what
what I was going to add if I had over 25 or under 25 and a half I'd much rather you score 83
that's 100% yeah and like if I ever bet an under just get it out of the way like I put a few bucks
on a game that was just completely born I think it was Michael Porter junior and I was like man he's
been struggling from three lay there's no way he's going to hit three and a half three is in this
game I think at four threes in the first quarter I'm like okay I'm good not even upset about it
43 trips to the charity stripe I mean Jesus is he high scoring game that anybody has ever
actually seen done in a Miami uniform that's insane organization that's at LeBron and Wade
it was all acres here come the heat but don't you are you starting to see why some people
are saying this does it doesn't make sense it doesn't fit they had LeBron they had weighed
and the guy who has the most games in a single game in the end the most points at a single game
in the NBA is band that a buy-up you know how it can fit you know how your brain can actually process
it go back and watch it happen go back and watch the footage okay then maybe you won't be as
upset about the last few minutes I'll take you why do I want to go watch a bunch of free throws I'm
good 18 point blow out the fourth quarter is see how much of the crowd do you think got there in
the second quarter be like bands got 30 plus points already it must have been such a shocker
like imagine you do get there like I mean it's Miami you could be late sometimes people just stay
at the bar until they start of the second quarter you come out and you're just like 31 after
the end of the first quarter it's absolutely ridiculous by the way still six points shy of
Clay Thompson's quarter insane yes are you guys with me can we all get behind team
Italy like are we are we done rooting for the United States here in the World Baseball Classic this
is a mistake I cannot forgive I mean I just I can't the problem is if Italy wins today then the US
advance yeah well I think Italy's going to lose purposely so the US doesn't and one could hope yes
one could hope got fired for the record Mikey if you go back and watch the first half of the
bio game he only shot 14 free throws enough but fired the rules and he goes back to what TV
analysts like yeah exactly and talk about all the moves he would have made his manager yeah exactly
listen there's no other games for him to manage okay rehire him and then fire fire now here's
what you do here's what you do yeah hot you just keep him keep him as a TV analyst every single time
on the broadcast where it comes down to a conversation about clenching for the playoffs you just
turn to Derosa now you tell us what has to happen yes but no one's going to believe him exactly opening
day the Yankees win two to one and they clinched the playoffs they don't have to play the rest of the
year right mark every single broadcast you cut to mark and he's just celebrating wow they
couldn't play off no markets game five of the regular season do you guys blame any of the players
because at some point Derosa had to say hey guys were good we clinched we moved on and none of
the players were like hey skip no we're not good he's your leader he's the one that does all
the thinking for you don't have to ask maybe know something I don't know we won't I mean but don't
you think certain players who were actually care about the thing that they're doing would know right
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