SEC SQUAD - SEC Win Totals RELEASED | Where Mizzou sits

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1:01You also get an ad free version of your favorite Lockdown show and a whole lot more. You can check it out by tapping the everydayer club link in the show notes. 2026 SEC football win totals around. You may be surprised by some of the high totals and it's time to get the squad together. You're talking ball with the SEC squad. From Alabama to Tennessee, from Georgia to Oklahoma, from Auburn to Texas. It's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming SEC weekend. It's the SEC squad, and we have a seat for you. Perfueling some thin skin are prohibited. Squat up, you're part of the SEC squad. Well, it's everybody. Welcome into the SEC squad. Sit back, grab your favorite beverage. And, Jonas, as we get you for another week, talking all things SEC. Hopefully, by the time you listen to this, your bracket's not already busted. Mine probably is. Let's welcome in our panel today.

2:02We've got John Miller from Lockdown, Missouri. We've got Jimmy Stein, Lockdown Bama, Corey Burton, Lockdown Vandy, and Steven Wallace, Lockdown Ole Miss. I'm Chris Gordy-Host of Lockdown SEC. And, guys, we've got spring practice underway. It's almost all the SEC teams. We've got a few still getting started in about a week or so. But, a lot of storylines coming out. We'll touch on maybe some of that a little bit later, but the big thing that was updated, Fandall putting out their updated win totals. And so, I thought this might be fun to kind of kick around and kind of dissect with what the thought process is here with some of these. And we'll kind of take a look at it. We'll start with the upper echelon. Only two SEC teams in the night and a half category. And I found that interesting because, you know, you could have made a case for Alabama. You could have made a case for Ole Miss. Some of the other teams, but Georgian Texas, the only ones they think, nine and a half wins. And I wonder if this is almost a microcosm, guys, of going to a nine game SEC schedule.

3:02It gets a little bit harder, but open it up. What do you guys think of just those two teams, Texas and Georgia at nine and a half wins? I think that's about right. That's a brand, if you want to look at that, and if you're a conspiracy theory-tenful hat person. And the thing that's interesting about me with me on this is it's nine and a half to four and a half. That's got to be the tightest range of wins and losses set up or wins in the season in SEC history. I mean, Kentucky, Mississippi State and Arkansas, they're not going to be good, but if they win four and a half, five games, it's just the point that you just don't know what's going to happen. Anybody can beat anybody at this point. Yeah, I think Georgian Texas are, look, what analyst out there between now and August, what credible analyst isn't going to have both of them in their playoff projection? I mean, I just think Georgia and Texas will be in virtually everyone's playoff projection. What does that mean?

4:03What means a lot? It means in terms of the perception of how good those teams can be, the perception from all of the logical, reasonable, rational analysis, they're going to be really good. We're saying the same thing about Penn State, Clemson and LSU a year ago, and they spent more time firing coaches than planning for their playoff appearance. So no one knows for certain. Of course, that's why it's fun. But Georgian Texas are going to be in every playoff projection. Yeah, especially Texas. I mean, they have a loaded up roster, Cam Coleman, Archmaning had a really nice finish to the season. So I mean, obviously they're going to be probably consensus favorites to win the SEC, despite Georgia sitting there as defending, two time defending conference champion. So it's interesting. I mean, it's not surprising by any stretch, but there are some numbers there that kind of surprised me a little bit like, you know, Ole Miss being at seven and a half returning Trinidad Chambles. I feel like that's an easy go. Alabama is very interesting, Jimmy, at eight and a half. Like with the quarterback battle, the rest of the rosters loaded up,

5:03but not sure who's going to be the starting quarterback. So there's some intrigue there as far as that goes. Yeah, that's a Corey's point. That seven and a half tier is interesting to me. I was surprised to see Oklahoma there and Ole Miss there and also Florida going the other way. I'm going, that's more confidence in Florida than I have at this point. That would be an under for me. And really at this point of the season, what I mean is six months from the first game, whatever we are, I'm basically looking at the quarterback and the coach. And of course, Texas, we know what they have at quarterback and coach, it's a team that made the playoffs two years ago, a team that was playoff quality. Let's just say right on the edge last season, the interesting thing about Georgia is I said, hey, quarterback and coach, we know they have the coach. They're the one team that I don't really care who is the quarterback. I just think they have the infrastructure to be an absolute national competitor every single year, almost no matter who's taking the snaps. Do you guys almost feel like it will work our way down this

6:04and get to some of the other teams and win totals, but kind of sticking with Georgia and Texas. If you had to put a month's pay on it, would you bet both those teams going 10 and 2? I mean, does that seem like a safe bad 10 and 2 or better for Georgia and Texas? If they're truly elite, an elite team, a team that's definitely in the playoff is 10 and 2 in this league. And I would bet the over on both myself, if forced to. I would go over and I think they will finish one and two in the league. And I think they'll both win 10 games and be comfortably in the playoff. But again, Penn State Clemson and LSU from a year ago is a cautionary tale for everybody. That's a March, a March 19th guarantee there, guys. Go ahead. George for the guarantee. No, yeah, Penn State had a stellar quarterback coming back and Drew Aller that everybody felt good. Don't don't say don't call him still or even so. Steller like everyone is raving about him

7:05like he was the next best thing. And we saw how that went. So it's going to be interesting for sure on Jimmy's point there with with George and Dexas. But I agree with Jimmy. I would take the over on both of these teams. And the rest of the teams, I'm not sure exactly where I stand on the rest of the league just about. But with those two teams, I'm definitely taking the over there. I think George, I'm really pounding simply because if you take a quick look at the schedule, this is George's relatively easy schedule I've seen for a while, especially for a nine-gamer. You'll all just have to, you can maybe disagree with me out there, but especially compared to Texas, which I think has a much harder schedule, SEC-wise than in the last recent years. Finally, yeah. So Texas having Oklahoma in the cotton bowl, that's always a toss-up game. You have a game at Texas A&M that's going to be weird. It's going to be juiced on rivalry day. Then they play Ole Miss. And that's going to be a massive game.

8:06I think Texas has a sneaky really difficult draw this year. In a Ohio state. Yeah. Well, Texas got lucky and they got to avoid Vanderbilt. So that's a good out there. Hey, you kid, but that's not. It may not be completely inaccurate the way Vanderbilt's playing this year. But he's acting like, hey, they're done without Diego Pond. I don't know about them, man. I think Clark Lee's got something there. Yeah, they've built the roster. They're participating in NIO. And they have way more money than people know about because they don't have to tell anybody about it because they're private. But yeah, things are rolling up here in Nashville. So Jared Curtis looking every bit of the party was day one of spring practice today, so. Hold off on, Vady. We'll get to them in a little bit. I kind of want to stick with the top half of this. We did Georgia in Texas. Oh, we did. In the top half to the next group of eight and a half. We got Alabama. We got LSU with Texas A&M and just three different teams with different expectations. Obviously LSU goes all in, Elaine Kiffin,

9:09all in on the number one portal class. I think expectations are kind of like, I almost say if they go over a nine and three, that's disappointing for what they're paying for, for Lake Giffin all that. Like I think expectation is 10 and two or better. Should be playoff for LSU. But I look at the board, Alabama. Can he afford to go eight and four or nine and three? Like I think, you know, that's a step backward from getting to the platform and to playoff game. And then A&M, I think Mike Elko would get a little bit of a pass right if he goes eight and four, seven and five. I think most fans would go, all right, that sucks, but he got to the playoff last year. So I think he would almost get a pass. But I feel like the board definitely doesn't get a pass. And I think Elaine gets a pass. I mean, this is the plan. What do you guys think? Out of all these, I feel like Alabama is the only team that I really feel good about hitting the over. I'm wary of LSU because I'm not sure exactly the health of Sam Levit and what he's dealing with. And you know, all the new stuff that they have going on in A&M is they're always in Enigma. So I'm not real sure.

10:10There, I don't feel confident one way or the other, but I feel like Alabama is set up to at least hit the over. I don't know much more beyond that, but that'll be interesting. I think it's a good number for Alabama. I mean, in terms of, you know, that's a good number in terms of getting a lot of 50-50, you know, you're gonna get juice on either side of that. But Alabama hasn't finished eight and four or worse since 2007. So it would be at this point almost historically bad. But at the same time, there's nine SEC games now. It's a tough schedule. They have a four game stretch in the middle of the season. It's just extraordinarily difficult. New quarterback, a lot of new coaches on offense, a lot of new faces in the lineup. I think anyone picks Alabama and when eight games are less isn't crazy at all. But I do think that 8.5 number is makes a lot of sense for Alabama. And Chris, you mentioned expectations for LSU. Listen to this. They play Clemson to start off. They go at Ole Miss. They play Texas A&M, which they had trouble with the year ago.

11:13They still have games at Alabama. Our versus Alabama versus Texas and at Tennessee. 8.5 is gonna be a struggle for LSU this year. Brutal. Yeah, I just look at it's, you know, you said they'd struggle with A&M last year. It's a different team and a different coaching staff. I mean, that's why I think LSU, we don't know what they are. It's a whole new team, you know? It's like I was looking at their roster earlier. I'm like the whole receiving core is different. Like everything's different. So again, like if I'm going, but I give benefit of the doubt the lane, I think Corey said we don't know what Sam Levitt is. Look, we didn't know what turn of that champ was last year. And then a play and it was awesome. So I think lane and their track record of quarterback play, you give them the benefit of the doubt. But I'm kind of with you. Like you got to go prove it. You got to see an action. And Steve doesn't, didn't lane struggle in year one at Ole Miss. Like, you went five and five and you're one at Ole Miss and you went six and six and you're one at Tennessee. Now, different era because the transfer portal went around. But it usually is a two year build for Lankin.

12:14I don't judge anybody on COVID year, by the way. COVID year is complete. I guess they're off the window for everybody. Because Jimbo Fisher almost made the playoffs in COVID year. So if I'm going to be bold about that group too, like I was bold about group one, pretty, you know, go the over on both. Group two, I think two of those three teams, two of those three will hit the over and make the play off. And one will not. And I hope no one makes me choose which way it goes. I mean, that's the way I see those three teams. Two, make the play off. One does not. One will be some level of a disappointment. And I'm not sure which one out of that group. One thing about LSU again. Opening game against Clemson this year, it'll be at home at least. Of course, LSU won it last year. I think they, that was the first opener they had won since the famous 2019 Joe Burrow Justin Jefferson season. You know, they play a tough schedule every single year and that opening game in particular is tough for LSU. Once again, though, you put yourself behind the eight ball,

13:16you start off O and one. I think that'll be a big one, especially when game two is at Ole Miss. Hello. Yeah. And then right after that is A&M. Like they're September's brutal. Yeah. It's just brutal. I think, can we all agree? Like, I don't know. The vibe I get on Mike Elko is like, he went over his head last year and this year's going to be, this year's going to be a comeback down the earth year. Do you guys feel that way at all? What do they add on the line of scrimmage? It's my question. I don't know that, that, that roster team, but where is A&M at the line of scrimmage last year? They were extremely good up front on both sides. This year, I don't, I don't believe there'll be as good up front. That can have some negative ramifications there for somebody like Marcel Reed, who I think needs to take another step forward, might be tougher with a lesser offensive line. And also, you know what can form be, right? What can form be, you know, well, Jimmy. Yeah. They didn't fight to keep him at the money A&M was offering. We'll just say that.

14:16They didn't have to keep him at that money that A&M was offering. And it's a couple of LSU guys. Tyree Adams and Cohen Eccles, they're aligned stunt class year, Tyron Ball from South Carolina. So yeah, it's an amalgamation of SEC experience, but I don't have to coach those guys up and get the best out of them because it's a lot of guys that always judge this guy's on portal. When a guy leaves your SEC school to go to the SEC school and your attitude is good riddance, means you didn't, if the fan base is going, eh, good, you know, we don't care that he left. It kind of tells you what you need to know about that player, but. Yeah, but also the fan base usually has that they don't care that they let they always do that because the same thing I heard from Ford was saying the racially. Yeah, Prince, yeah, Prince Lee and Mommy Ellen, we let him go. He's nobody and it's like, yeah, yeah, no, that's not the way that worked. But yeah, you have to be careful with that. But if the consensus is that I agree with you, in all seriousness, listen to us. That's not even me being a company guy. From my experience, I'm not even kidding. If I, if there's a portal guy who comes from one of our schools, I'll immediately reach out to somebody,

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17:19I think I think all the way it was caught with us a lot of that. Would you back into a fellas and over half the conference is sitting either in the seven and a half or six and a half wind total according to Fandool. Again, this is March numbers, but let's start with that seven and a half group. I was kind of a surprise. Some optimism on John somewhere on the Florida Gators getting some love at seven and a half. Oklahoma, what a big step back. With John Mateer back and all those pieces. They were a playoff team last year. They put them at seven and a half. Oh, miss the same thing. A playoff team of you are going to put them at seven and a half and Tennessee. Kind of that team of, okay, one step forward, one step back. What's going to happen with the quarterback? But what do you guys make of that group? Seven and a half wins. Ole Miss definitely are that group. That's what I think. Oklahoma is interesting. Florida. I'm not a big believer in Florida hitting the over on seven and a half. I think at best they're going to win seven this year. It's just, there's just too many new pieces. They are with John Somerall.

18:20But yeah, Tennessee. They were at six and a half and they got bumped up, I guess, because their name is Tennessee. But Ole Miss is definitely the one. I would take the over 100% in that group. Oklahoma would be the next one. And then Florida, Tennessee, it's a freaking dice roll. Such a step back for Oklahoma and Ole Miss, you know, based on last season. So it's a little surprising to see them there. Much like I said about that second group, where I said two of the three would make the playoff. And one will be a little disappointing. With this group, I would be inclined out of those four teams. I mean, keep in mind what Fandals tell us here is there's a 50-50 chance those teams will finish seven and five. But what I'm going to say is one of the four, one of those four teams, most likely Ole Miss or Oklahoma. I think one of the four wins more like nine or 10 games and makes the playoff. But I'm only willing to say that only one of those four will. I'm with the doubters on Florida. They're going to have to show me wins with the new coach in the quarterback situation.

19:20And I have a hard time. But I think one of those four even makes the playoff, even though Fandall betting odds say 50-50 on seven and five. I actually like that Fandall, I shouldn't say likes, but I just think it's the right move to move Tennessee from six and a half to seven and a half. I think that's the right number for the balls I really do, even though the regular situation probably knocked it down a win. I think seven and a half is really where Tennessee should be. And I'm with everybody so far. I thought this was my hot take, but no, I'm just going to agree with all of you. Florida's seven and a half is too high. Not only do you have a new coach, I think the quarterback situation to me is not obviously strong either at this point. We'll see what happens in September. But right now, I don't know how you could bet over on Florida. Well, do you put anything in account? They have a playoff coach, a guy who's just coaching in the playoff at two lane of all places. Now he's got the resources at Florida. I just think you're one. It's tough. I mean, maybe he'll prove to, maybe he'll completely prove me wrong

20:22and will crush it there. But I just think that's a tough one. And Florida's a tougher place to navigate than I think a lot of people realize. Yeah, thank you. Oklahoma's got mature and Ole Miss has chambles. It's kind of hard for me to put Florida in Tennessee there for that reason alone. Exactly. Oklahoma and Ole Miss have a quarterback. The one thing that we're not thinking of is John Summerall didn't go to Italy because he had stuff to do. And all of that work that he's gonna put in, that's obviously worth two more wins. Let me ask you guys this, because this is an interesting test. Because again, he's got a lot of love with how he handled the playoff run and all that. But I remind people, you know, a year ago, it's not like his name was at the top of a bunch of lists of, oh, let's hire him. If you had to pick one right now, like if we're ranking coaches, would you have Pete Goldinghire or John Summerall Hire? Pete Golding. By country mother. There his name wasn't out there. Is he didn't put it out there because of the reason he said Ole Miss is family related, not professional related.

21:23He went there because of his wife. So he wasn't looking to leave. And he made himself available for the Ole Miss job when it came available because he didn't want to leave. That's the deal about Pete Golding and what went on there. And that's the reason he didn't hear his name. I do agree what he's being asked is so different than a year ago because obviously very impressive with what he did a year ago, taking over for Lane Kiffin in that spot. This ask, which is build an entire football team basically or a starting lineup to some extent from scratch. And I don't mean that they don't have returning starters who are good players. I just mean everyone in the league has such incredible roster turn over now, year to year. What Pete is being asked to do this year is radically different than a year ago. And I think it's fair for people to ask, hey, what kind of head coach is Pete Golding? I don't think the playoff run has been a 100% proving ground. It was certainly interesting. And early returns are impressive. But this is more of a real look at what Ole Miss

22:24will look like going forward. I'll say this about Pete. When Pete Golding came to Ole Miss, he immediately looked at the recruiting situation in the Player Personnel Department that was put together there and said, this is crap. And he went and built the exact same thing that Nick Sabin had at Alabama, exactly, to the tee, to where staff and everything happened. And that is when the transfer portal, the portal king started happening because there were 10 people looking out and scouting what was going on. And that system coming over. So Pete has kind of built the team. He doesn't get the credit for it, but he did have his fingerprints all over it. Yeah, I just think it's interesting. He seems like a really smart, capable guy. I just think, man, the head job is really, it's something different. And I was a person who said, hey, for an interim to end the season, I thought Golding was a great option in the wake of the whole Lane Kiffin departure and the playoff. I just want to see it.

23:25I'm not saying he can't do it. I do just want to see it. And I think that's probably the reflection there of the number being a little bit lower than we think. It probably is mostly about the coach, because it's not about training that said. It's not about training that he's going to start next year. It's amazing that Kiwan Lacey is getting forgotten because of training that. It's just amazing. It's just a fun exercise, because John, someone's got the skins on the wall. He want a Troy. He want a Tulane. He's been this up and come here. But now he's at the SEC, going to be there where it's be Golding first time head coach. So it's just kind of going to be fun in this offseason of ranking head coaches where you evaluate those two guys and where you put them. So when we return, guys, we will get to the six and a half club. And this is the do or die. This bowling or not hot seat might be fired. We're going to get to all that coming your way next squad. Toggle more ball coming your way after this. Hey, first guys is tax time. But for a lot of us, the old way of doing taxes is a lot trying to book an appointment

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26:25You got Auburn with the new coach in Alex Golis. You got Mizzou with you like Drinkwoods, who's been there a while. You've got South Carolina. That's got Shane Beamer who's been there a while. And you got Clark Lee coming off the most historic season for Vanderbilt. Then he'll be expecting to take a step back. But all the way down to six and a half, what do you make of this group? I think it's interesting. If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, I could be completely wrong, but Auburn hasn't won more than six games since COVID. And you're telling me this year in a first year coach, they're going to win six and a half. I don't know if that is, I think six might be their ceiling, but that's an underplay at this point. It's actually, I totally disagree with you. I actually, Auburn is the one team on this entire list that I like as an over simply because I'm sorry. I get somebody who's not playing golf four times a week. Sounds great to me. Do we think Hugh Freeze was a good coach? Because I don't, I don't know. Steven, you're much more familiar with Hugh Freeze's game than I am to steal a phrase from Shaquille O'Neal.

27:27But to me, that's a coaching upgrade. And not only that, he's bringing his old quarterback with him. You make a good point that Auburn's recent history isn't great. To me, I like Auburn to go over. Yeah, it should be interesting, but 17 players coming from the G5 level, they might be talented, they might be consistent, but they also, the Cam Colman's on that side on the ball. You know, it's interesting to me. I have a hard time imagining any, I have a hard time imagining that's gonna happen. But I have a hard time imagining any of those four beating any of the teams ahead of them on Fandals list, that was at nine teams ahead of them. I have a hard time imagining this fall, any of those four beating any of those not, but at the same time, I would tell you, I think that group is the reason the SEC is such a great league, because all four of those teams are dangerous. They're dangerous. You don't want to play Vandy in Nashville, or Missouri in Como,

28:28or even this Auburn team with Byron Brown, at quarterback in South Carolina, they have the number one pick in the draft on defense, and who knows where the quarterback will go. I mean, that's a danger, these are dangerous football teams. Are they a threat to win the league? Not even close, but this is why the SEC is so good and tough, because these teams who will be fortunate to finish 500, they're dangerous. I do think one of those teams, I agree with you that none of those four teams are an actual threat to win the league as we sit here. I do think with Missouri, with Austin Simmons, I do think with South Carolina, with Lenora Sellers, I think there's a lot of potential for some pretty high variance there with all four of those teams, but I will say, and again, to the point of high variance, it can go either way, because Missouri not only has a new quarterback, they have a ton of guys for a place on defense as starters as well. So if it would have been anything other than six and a half for Missouri, I would have been surprised. Yeah, I mean, I think,

29:29I was gonna say, and for Vanderbilt, you know, with Jared Curtis being the freshman quarterback, and you're not sure what he's going to bring to the table, like that issue, that gives people a lot of pause as far as, okay, we don't want to rate them too high, but one of the things you notice about Vanderbilt is, and I've said this, you know, all along all this month, is their floor has raised significantly, and that's goal number one for them to come out the basement. Yeah, they're out of the basement, their floor is now sitting in about six and a half, whereas last year, they were four and a half, and the year before that, they were two and a half. So, I mean, it's getting better, the roster is turning over at a lot better rate, they're building more depth, they just got to get the quarterback situation figured out, they could be a dangerous team, but you just don't know, that's why they're sitting at six and a half, but like Tennessee's got to come to Nashville. So, you know, that's gonna be tricky, and Auburn opens up, well, Vandy opens up their SEC play with Auburn, Auburn opens up with Florida,

30:29but it's, you know, there's a lot of variance in there, and you know, I like Vanderbilt to hit the over, I think seven is a good number for them. I think they're, if they were sitting at seven and a half, I would pick the under, I think seven wins is about right for this Vanderbilt team. They're gonna pick somebody off somewhere down the road. So, it's just gonna be interesting. These four teams are very, very intriguing. I like South Carolina a lot. I like Missouri a lot with Austin Simmons, and of course, Auburn is, they're tricky. You don't know what they got. New coach, I just think there's gonna be a little bit of struggle there in year one, but they're gonna be dangerous moving forward. What's interesting guys is, you know, with Auburn, if they go six and six, that's their most wins in three years to Steven's point. It's been, it was nine and four 2019 since then. It was six and five, six and seven, five and seven, six and seven, five and seven, five and seven. So, that would be a dramatic improvement. I feel like if Missouri goes six and six, we're gonna wait.

31:29In the lead drink, what's the top 10 highest paid head coach in college football now? Like, he needs to be doing a little bit better than that. Look, it's been a while since Missouri hasn't done better than that, too, like that not since 2022. So, Shane Beamer can't go backwards. If he goes five and seven, I think he's fired. So, he should be because I do think South Carolina is the best team in that group. They're gonna win eight games this year. Yeah, wow. And maybe, and maybe, and Kendall Briles is a great hire. Yes. And lastly on Vandy, I mean, look, six and six, if they go six and six, and Jared Curtis has ups and downs of a true freshman, I don't think they vice crucifying Clark Lee over that. We're going, hey, they're building for the future and the future looks bright for Vanderbilt, even if they have a down year this year. Last group, guys, the four and a half win club. And you gotta give me, are you going over under on these Arkansas, Kentucky Mississippi State? Obviously, Ryan Silverfield's got a big task ahead at Arkansas and replacing that roster. Kentucky will Stein killed it in the portal. They, and he's a good offensive mind, good young coach.

32:31And then Jeff Levy, it's kind of put up or shut up top for him. This is year three in Starfleet. I know they've had a lot of turnover, but you gotta start building forward. I mean, six wins are better. I think it has to be the goal in Starfleet this year. I don't see terrible football teams there. I don't think any of them will be terrible. And, but I do think that they're going to have a difficult time winning SEC football games, especially away from home. Did you know that Arkansas don't have, doesn't have clocks in their facility? I mean, that right there, again, we're, we're two wins. I was gonna say, I get up to six and a half. Yeah, seriously, you can count on that. I think Mississippi State's going to look like Ole Miss did in 2022. They tried to revamp their offensive line. The reason being is Camario Taylor is an elite runner like really, really good, but he is not a good passer of the football. So you don't want to be in that situation. So I'm curious about Mississippi State if their defense can get a little bit better. Zach Arnett coming back, taking over that defense,

33:32it would be interesting. I like Kentucky because of the transfer portal and like, I mean, Arkansas, no clocks. I mean, come on. Casinos don't have clocks and most everyone loses. Yeah, great boy. Hey, I just want to say, I think most of us like what Kentucky did this off season. My instinct was to go over on Kentucky. And that was when it was five and a half. And, but then I looked at the schedule and now I understand why it went down to four and a half because you look at Kentucky schedule, they play Youngstown State and they play, let's see, South Alabama, then their third non-conference game is against Louisville. So other than those two games, you really don't have a lot of automatic victories there. That's a pretty brutal schedule, SEC-wise. They got the short end of the stick on the schedule. So even if Kentucky's quite a bit improved, man, it's just tough to get as bullish on them as I want to with that schedule. Well, also, he's a rookie head coach too. There's that factor involved.

34:32They could be as talented as they want to, but like as a rookie head coach, you know. Which is, don't know. You don't know, yeah, you don't know your, you don't know your, you're in from a bag of sand. Like it's, you know, your head spinning for, for the whole season and you're trying to figure things out logistically and practice-wise and travel rosters and everything is a head coach that, before you even step on the field, you're trying to figure out. And for Will Stein, you know, like a lot of rookie head coaches, it's gonna be a struggle. Is it fair to say though, offense should be better with the offense of mine that he's coming over from Oregon and more stoops? You know, it was running these archaic offenses. I think so. I think you're gonna see an uptick in offensive production, but I think the whole operation is going to struggle in year one. Now, typically year two, they get their stuff together and they can do some things, but you're one, you're gonna see some flashes. But ultimately, I think it's gonna be a struggle as of right now. I did, I will tell you this. I did a show a podcast last week that somebody made a parallel on Kenny Minchi to Joe Burrow.

35:36I'll just leave that out there. So if you want to buy into that hype and Kentucky, jump on it. Like, you know, the same height or what? Now, now, was it a bourbon distiller that made that comparison? Yeah. Are they both, yeah. Is that, is that where we're at? I'm still you guys right? Like, they're, they're like, guys, I have no idea what we're gonna get. I don't know what the hell Kenny Minchi's gonna be. I don't know what Byron Brown's gonna be in a full season in the SEC. Like, there's just ones that, I don't know what Austin Simmons is gonna be at Missouri. He's gonna be awesome. He could be average. We just don't know. So there's a lot of unknowns this year. And that's what makes those, though, went total so much fun. And we are officially in routes on air season to where people are just like, oh, look at this guy throw in the football. He threw a five yard out against air. I'm telling you guys right now, I'm looking at my Twitter trending right now. One of the stories is Tennessee Freshman quarterback Faeson Brandon shines in ball spring practice. It is. Oh, I see Alabama fans already making fun

36:37of literally one throw that Byron Brown is based. Oh, my God, look at that hitch in his delivery. I'm like, it's one throw, guys. I don't know. Yeah. That's the same thing on the other side. If there's a problem with this game, it's like, see this quarterback can throw the football. Right. I think, come on. I saw somebody said, Grock, how many yards did he throw for? I mean, it's, yeah, it is what it is. But hey, guys, hey, Jimmy, thank you for Cole Adams, dude. I saw the most filthy whip route that he broke a corner back's ankles. That is a good player that you can go. Cole Adams is a good, Cole Adams a good football player. No one in Tuscaloosa was excited to Gordy's point earlier. No one was in Tuscaloosa was excited to see Cole Adams leave. Was he going to be one of Alabama's top two receivers? No, but no one was excited to see him go. Well, remember to follow, subscribe to your favorite SEC show. Corey needs to remember to take those cough drops and get help is there. I started snowing here Monday and I came from Naples where it was like 90 degrees and how it's 30 degrees and my allergies just cannot handle it.

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