SEC SQUAD - Quarterbacks FIGHTING for more eligibility | How this Affects Auburn

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1:05SEC and gentlemen, hopefully you've braved the elements of the weather and this stupid cold front that we had through the last week plus, I know SEC country got pretty darn chilly. So hopefully you guys got through it, okay? But one of the kick-around, the big topic that came out a couple days ago, Joey Aguilar, filing a suit this week against the NCAA, asking for another season of college eligibility. It's an anti-trust suit, much like Diego Pave's last year saying since he played a community college, those years shouldn't count because it wasn't D1, so he played two years at AppState, one year at Tennessee, he's looking for a fourth year at this level. So we asked the panel, do you guys think Aguilar has a case, should he get next year year? I don't know how the turntables, I mean, I don't see why he wouldn't, right? I mean, obviously this is a slam dunk, he deserves it, needs it, now Trinidad, no, Charles Bettyaco, basketball, heck no, Joey, yes.

2:08I heard LeBron is looking for a retirement plan, Jimmy, you guys are going to take him. His clock hasn't even started, that's a big difference from some other eligibility cases. LeBron never enrolled in college, so his clock has never started, so per all previous rulings LeBron, I think could play college basketball, I don't know why it would, look, my opinion, his college clock hasn't started, his biological clock is well on his way. But I don't think you could dominate. I'm coming from the Bettyaco school here, and I don't really think any of them should be able to play, but the toothpaste is already out of the tube, I mean, I think the problem isn't, if it's up to me, and obviously it's not and shouldn't be, but I think for, you know, four years, five years to play four, once you go pro, you can't go back to college, Juco counts, division two counts, AppState counts, that's the way I would do it across the board, but the toothpaste is already out of the tube.

3:10Now if you're going to parcel each case, fact by fact, it's just too easy for lawyers to make arguments otherwise. And there's just so much inconsistency at this point, you almost have to let them all play. You know, the interesting thing to me is people try to lump the Trinidad case in with the Pavia thing and all of that, but the reality with Trinidad is to say bureaucracy thing of what is acceptable on D2 is not acceptable on D1. And because of that, Ole Miss is getting denied because the memorandum of what happened and whatever he got injured, wasn't done in a correct way for D1. And in 2024, in the Ferris State National Championship game, they were talking about applying for a medical red shirt for Trinidad Champles, even before he transferred. It should be a home run. I don't know how I feel about Trinidad being lumped into that discussion, because this isn't one of those things where Juco shouldn't count or something like that or the times

4:14you shouldn't have count. This is all just an NCAA bureaucracy thing for Trinidad Champles, and they have to get around with that. That in my opinion is why this is a slam dunk. He's played three years of college football. He was injured one year and he redshirted one year. And that's what it comes down with, too. Yep. All three of these cases are different, but I agree with Jimmy completely. The toothpaste is out of the tube. You're seeing lawsuits everywhere across the country. It feels like, and the NCAA is more than not taking these Ls in the courtroom. So, you know, I don't, I'm not upset that any of these guys are going forward. Number one, you get to play again. Number two, you get to make some serious money when chances are you're not going to have an NFL, you know, future or a long-standing NBA future. Now, I think the Betty Ako situation is completely different, but Joey Aguilar situation is completely different than Trinidad situation, completely. It's obviously with the Diego Pavia. So, here's the thing that I don't think a lot of people understand or, you know, not a known.

5:15You know, Joey was a part of Diego Pavia's lawsuits, okay? He voluntarily got out of it, was requested his release of it last week, picked up his own representation. So, we knew this was going to happen at some point, but where these are all three similar Steven, it's on a local level. Trinidad's going in the local county, Bianco went in Tuscaloosa, Joey Aguilar's going in Knox County. It's not in a federal level. It's in a local level. So, those guys kind of paved the way for Joey Aguilar to say, all right, well, let me, I'll still be taking care of their Pavia's case wins eventually. But let me go see if I can get this done at a local level and see what happens. I think that was a pretty smart move just to give himself another opportunity. Yeah, no, no. Tom Mars came up with that idea with the NCAA not being incorporated. They are actually a resident of every single state and can be sued everywhere. And now you're starting to see that just kind of go around college football to where they need, they need Congress to take a step to where they alleviate that because right now

6:16there's rules for everybody. Yeah, it's, it's a complete mess and Joey Aguilar could benefit from it and Tennessee would, that would be a welcome addition for their quarterback situation for sure. You know, Faeson Brandon, I think would stand to win the battle otherwise. I think he would come in better than, better than McIntyre. But if you can get Aguilar back, it, it eases that transition a lot, Eric. And, you know, I, I definitely, you know, as much as I love to, to, to bag on Tennessee, this would be a, this would be a good win for them. And, you know, I just think at some point, the guard rails have to come up and, and got to figure out some sort of system to not make this thing go, go even for easier. But, hey, the funny thing is, if not for Diego Pavia's lawsuit last year, Joey Aguilar wouldn't have played. Nobody would know who Joey, Joey Aguilar is because of that lawsuit. You got the blanket waiver that allowed Joey Aguilar to play. Miles gets them into play, start Thomas.

7:17I'm naming off Tennessee guys right now, but guys like that all over the country. So it's kind of funny because of course, it's a rivalry there at Tennessee, and Vanderbilt and all that. But if not for Diego Pavia's lawsuit to begin with, nobody would have a blue, your welcome. Yeah. Thank you. Nobody would have a clue who Joey Aguilar is. So, I just think, I don't think, again, I go back to what Jimmy said. I personally, it's just, you're taking away opportunities for high school kids. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. I don't like it in any sport. However, like I showed about this in the group chat, guys, what is your guy on your team? I mean, you're seeing everybody else do a go for it, man. Like, again, I don't fault any of these guys for going for it. I think the Badiaco situation is different. Again, he went college professional back, back to college, but nonetheless, it's all out there. So, go ahead. Shoot your shot, right? Well, the interesting part is denying an opportunity, right? Like Aguilar is clearly a guy that probably doesn't have an NFL future like he's probably not an NFL quarterback, but if there's a million dollars sitting on the table from a Tennessee deal to say he can come back and play a year, two million, like that's a, that's a great

8:21argument. The point of this plate should get it extra year. Yeah. The complaint in there is, you know, part of the complaint is Joey Tennessee is reserved for a roster spot for him. They have an NIL deal for him, both like 2.1 or whatever, $2 million. And so like part of the argument is you are taking money out of his pocket, whereas he's not going to get that money. Well, they don't say that, but he's not going to get a blame in the NFL, so you're taking money out of his pocket. They're saying, well, he needs to go prepare for the NFL drive, you're going to take that away from him. So, but yeah, that's in the complaint, you know, Tennessee's got a spot for him. He's going to get paid $2 million. Yeah. Yeah. So if he does lose that appeal and he does want to go try for the NFL, has that has that deadline passed? Or is he getting some sort of waiver to, he's the same as the NFL process? Yeah. When you're this old, you don't have to declare for the draft, you're just, you're ready to stand. You just have to be clear to go to the combine, you have to do that to that point. And I think that was the impetus behind Aguiar going through this was to get ahead of the combine because if it failed and they didn't get the injunction or whatever, all of a

9:21sudden he could go and participate or something like that. Okay. I didn't know if there was some rule, just some blanket rule in the NFL draft. I never even really thought about that until just now. But yeah, like, like you said, Eric, go, go, go take your shot and see what, see what happens. Well, the other part of this, I don't know if you guys saw Chris Higardy, Higardy is going to be the judge on the case. He is a two-time university of Tennessee and Knoxville graduate. So much like the turn of dad shambles hearing. Well, it's going to be hard to find judges in Mississippi that didn't go to Ole Miss Law School and Tennessee UT and to some extent, Vandy and Alabama, you know, there's only two accredited law schools in Alabama. So that you're just going to be stuck with that, you know, all over the South. Is he a booster though? Because I'm not going to lie to you. I went all in on the whole Bianco thing and I made fun of the booster, the judge and all that. If this guy's a Tennessee booster, well, go back and scrub some old table locked on vaults. Or just quick, guys, show of hands, raise your hand, do you think, give it all the information.

10:27Should I get an extra year, raise your hand. Two hands. I don't know. All right. Hey, sure. Why not? Let's go. Yes. And then same thing for chambles. So you raise your hand, do you think you're going to add chambles? Yeah. I'll try the favor. We all agree. So look, hey, it'd be, look, for the SEC, it'd be hell awesome to have those two guys back with all the other guys coming back in the SEC. It'd be super exciting. So to be the best, you got to beat the best and why not? And again, I'll reiterate that, you know, I think they should, based on what's all happened. Yeah. None of them should have any of this if we can go back 15 years ago, and the Bianco case would not have existed without the Baylor case. I mean, Baylor case led to the Betiaco case. And if you took, and I think, you know, Alabama, I even spoke with Alabama's athletic director about this. If they just got rid of all the pros, Alabama wouldn't object to Betiaco being eligible. If they got rid of all the pros, but they're like, the other guys have them, we should have them too. Yeah, I will say this 15 years ago, Tronida would have had the same argument.

11:28It would have been a typical 60 year thing that they were grinding back in the day. But other than that, I get what you're saying. Well, Jimmy, the dolphins have been so bad. I think too. I should get them eligibility back. Okay. Okay. We'll take it. Whatever it turns, guys, I want to post a question. The SEC make a mistake going to a nine game conference slate. We'll discuss DC squad talking more ball coming up next. I'm Clea Butler, host of Lockdown Women's Basketball. And this is Mazda's Women's Basketball snapshot celebrating the work no highlight reel can ever capture. Number one ranked Yukon dominated Tennessee 96 to 66, turning a halftime tie into a historic win and avenging last season's loss by delivering the largest margin in the rivalries history. AZFUD had 27 points and Sarah Strong added 26 as the Huskies remain perfect on the season, reminding everyone why they are the reigning national champions.

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13:30and at free versions of your favorite show. All right, Gents, gotten to a little bit of a debate with the big 10 folks a couple of days ago. Go figure. But the news came out that we're going to stay put at 12 team playoffs going into next year. And it's kind of interesting because the SEC made the decision to move to a nine game conference slate for next season and yet we're not going to expand the playoffs. So I've posed the question you guys and then I'll come back with a reason why I'm asking this, did the SEC make a mistake going to a nine game conference slate? Yeah, absolutely it did. The original plan and I am 100% convinced of this. This is my opinion, but I am convinced of this was to go to the 16 team automatic qualifier model that the big 10 talked about from the very beginning and the nine game SEC schedule and the extra power for requirement that they had who would make no difference because you were going to decide the four qualifying members of your conference to get into the playoffs.

14:30You were going to be guaranteed to do it. But at some point along the way, somebody got in Greg Sanquiz here and said, Hey, we don't need that. We can we can play the nine games and get in the on playoffs as it is. And I was like, this is ridiculous. You just intentionally hurt yourself for no other reason other than pride and ego and the ability to tell everybody the big 10 wasn't right. And that is ridiculous. And right now the SEC is in a worst case because of it. Yeah, let me just add real quick. I mean, you're you're guaranteeing half your conference another loss, right? So that, you know, you're talking at 10 and two versus a nine and three and all that. But the other part of it is the money, right? I mean, what's the revenue share this year is what 21, 20 million, 21 million for each SEC school? That number goes up by adding another week of SEC games, right? So I mean, from that aspect, yes, the money and the revenue share and everybody saying,

15:32I need more money. I need more money. Got to pay these players. Got to pay the players. So I get it from that perspective, but you're right, Stephen. It does hurt the SEC's chances for more teams in the playoffs. Let's say the rest of you have very little confidence that the playoff committee based on what we've seen so far is going to take this into account. I think they mostly spend their time counting losses, not factoring in strength of schedule as much as they should. And I think next year, when it comes down to selection Sunday, there will be an SEC team or two that is nine and three that is excluded. And they shouldn't be. They'll be excluded for a two loss team from another league. And I have very little confidence that committee will take into account. The SEC had, well, I think this past year, eight of the 10 most difficult schedules were SEC. That was before they went to nine games. Next year, you'll see strength of schedule. I would bet, I don't know, 14 of the top 16 will be SEC schools, but nine and three teams

16:33will not be in the field next, next fall. Well, you're honored by my lawyer, Jimmy Stein makes a compelling case because I submit to you exhibit a of the last three national champions, the 10 teams that played a nine game conference slate. Take a look at their non-conference games Michigan and 23 played ECU, UNLV and Bowling Green, Ohio State, 24 played, Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall and in 25 Indiana, the undefeated champs played, Old Dominion, Kennesaw State and Indiana State. The reality is this stupid requirement that the SEC has where you've got to play a power form or power program from the big 12 or the ACC or it's stupid, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Remove that requirement. Let's go schedule three cupcakes and be done with it. Yeah, absolutely. Big 10 can do it. So can we. And we agreed to go to nine games. They pulled the rug over our eyes, not expanding the playoff field because the big 10 said,

17:33oh, yeah, we said 16, oh, why don't you do 24 and the SEC's like, no, we didn't agree to 24, we agreed to 16. And then, yeah. So just say screw the extra P4 game and let's get cupcakes, I agree with that. Or remove the committee entirely. I mean, that's a good idea too. It's like it's like being in a marathon and agreeing to run uphill, I'll run uphill. Everybody else on flat ground, but I'll run uphill. I mean, why would you do that? Do you think that they kept that in place to protect the noncon roffries there at the end of the season? Georgia Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, you know, yadda, yadda. Because those fan bases don't want to forfeit those games. What's the SEC to do? You know, Tennessee doesn't have one of those games and a lot of other teams don't have one of those games. So in order to keep those and keep those properties active, that's tough for Georgia and South Carolina. Kentucky. But if you're like, if you're a shame beamer, you're going to go to bat and go, we can't

18:35lose the Clemson game. Okay. Then you're going to be fired in two years and someone else will be playing that game for you. You know, I mean, like, no, you're looking for wins here. You want as many wins as possible and adding more potential else when you don't have to makes it tougher for you. Yeah. The crazy thing is in this world, if they would have just swallowed their pride in taking the automatic qualifier model, it wouldn't have mattered if the team went nine in three. It wouldn't have mattered if Georgia asked the Georgia Tech because all it would matter is where you finished inside the conference and how good the team was, whenever it lined up against another team on the field, instead of counting losses, because that's the world that we're in and that is the world that honestly Greg Sank in the SEC put us in, but just say, no, we're not going to play your game. Let me show you guys this real quick because I put this together. Here's the SEC's best non-con game in 26. Emma plays FSU, Auburn plays Baylor, Arkansas plays at Utah, Florida, Florida state, Georgia,

19:36Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU host Clemson, Mississippi State goes up to Minnesota. That's an interesting one. Missouri goes to Kansas, Oklahoma goes to Michigan, Ole Miss plays Louisville, South Carolina plays at Clemson, Tennessee plays at Georgia Tech, A&M plays Arizona State, Texas plays Ohio State, Vandy plays NC State. Now take a look at the big 10. They've got some good ones. Ohio State plays at Texas, Michigan, Oklahoma, so on and so forth. Look at Indiana, USC Penn State, Nebraska, none of them play a group of, or what we would consider a power, you know, a tough non-conference game. They scheduled three cupcakes. Indiana did it two straight years. The reigning national kids didn't even try to test themselves because they know this is the model that works. Kurt Signetti's not dumb. What it's going to take is somebody on the committee that has some stones that would punish those type of schedules if the SEC is playing 10 P4 games, and the big 10 is playing three P4 games because they're scheduling cupcakes.

20:38Punish the ones that, you know, if it comes down to it, hey, you played three G5 games. You played an SCS and two G5s, and this team played an SCS, a G5 and a P4, from the SEC. Like, if Ty goes to that and say, and that may motivate them to add a P14 on there. Everybody's out for themselves. No one's looking in the best interest of college football. Texas played Ohio State last year in the opener, and it made, it helped make for compelling weekend for all college football fans everywhere. It was appointment TV for, for everyone that enjoys college football. If Texas had played Akron instead, Texas would be in the playoffs. I mean, that's what's wrong with it. It's one of the many things that's wrong with college football right now. The committee is telling Texas, you need to schedule Akron, not Ohio State, and college football fans from across the country, they get robbed. You get Texas Akron instead of Texas Ohio State because of the decisions that the committee

21:39makes. But everybody knows where to say it. Well, don't lose the Florida. Don't lose the Florida. I got news for you. Florida might not be a great team. But Florida's still, it's not an easy game to win. It's not an easy game to win. There's two years in a row that Florida in the swamp has not been good and kept a team out of the playoffs because they aren't good. And the big 10 full of NFL players and a hundred thousand state stadium teams that aren't at the top tier in your league here in the southeastern conference to beat the crap out of the middle to achieve middle tier teams in the big 10. I mean, that's just, that's what I was going to say. Like the big 10s, what the SEC used to be like, very top heavy. Yeah, you're, you're paying Anderson, right? You're very top heavy. You've got the, you know, you got Oregon, you got Ohio State, you got Michigan was that kind of whatever last year. But like, you got those top teams, but like nobody, per new one sneaking up on anybody, you know, like Rutgers wouldn't sneak it wouldn't catch anybody sideways. Like, so it's a worse because they have so north, northwestern, we got rolled by two line, two line Northwestern got rolled by two line last year.

22:43Yeah. So anyway, it's just, it's like all the big 10 fans want to say, you're just crying SEC fans. Okay. But it's like, it's like taking a test and Indiana is taking it set on easy and we're all taking it set on hard like it's, you're, you have to get up for two games a year. Like, of course, Indiana's got an easy path to the playoff. But the big 10 doesn't have that the SEC is forced to have everyone in the, in the SEC. When you play South Carolina next year, I mean, let's be out of South Carolina is probably picked finished, I don't know, seven and five, eight and four. I think we have standard pick for where South Carolina is going to finish. They have maybe the number one pick in the draft. They have a quarterback that could arguably be a first round pick. The big 10 doesn't have that other than the top heavy teams. I mean, Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, they don't have first round picks. Virtually everyone in the SEC is putting a couple of difference makers on the field. The big 10 doesn't have that beyond the top four or five teams in the league. If you look at the big 10, you look at next year's like, what is the game of the year going

23:44to be in the big 10? And there's like two games that everybody can go to and what's going to be a good game. If you did that in the SEC next year, it's like, is it Ole Miss at Texas? Is it LSU at Alabama? I mean, over and over, you can go 16 deep with potential game of the year possibilities and that's kind of the difference. Speaking of that, could it Kentucky sneak up on people next year? Are we able to discuss that more squad talking more ball next? First guys, we want to remind you about our friends over at Indeed Hiring. Isn't just about finding someone willing to take the job. It's about finding the right person with the right background who can actually help your business move forward. And if you want candidates who match what you're looking for, Indeed, sponsor jobs is the move because instead of hoping the right person to stumble across your post, Indeed helps you match with quality candidates by boosting your job listing to the people who fit your specific criteria with life skill, certifications, and location. If you're hiring, you wouldn't just want someone who can help out. You want somebody with real experience who can jump right in

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26:48The 10th rank portal class ask you guys. Can Kentucky disrupt the SEC this season? No, but like, what else is he supposed to say, right? I mean, new code trying to fire up the fans. I get it. I don't blame him for that. I mean, like, you don't want him to say the opposite. You don't want to say, well, we can back door our way into a couple of wins this year. I don't think Kentucky's roster is where it is. Got a couple of Tennessee boys down the offensive line. I don't know if that'll make a difference. Can he mentioned, he's interesting. Did get that flip. That was obviously a big time win. I liked Javante Barnes edition. I thought that, you know, he was pretty good in spots. Local home over the last couple of years. But overall, I don't think Kentucky's going to be very competitive. Certainly that defense is now what it used to be a couple of years ago with Mark Stoops. But what else is he supposed to say? And I don't, I don't, I don't fault the new coach. No, definitely not. And, and of course, the coach of Vanderbilt, when he first took over the job, said something very similar. And everybody kind of laughed at him. And now he's now, he finished last season two. And looks like to be on an upward trajectory. So maybe that's setting something up for the future

27:48to get the fans high, to get recruiting going and saying, hey, this guy has a vision. And just like you said, Eric, it is a perfect storm for him to make that statement and go do something about it. I know we're talking in Will Stein here. But I remember when Clark Lee took over at SEC Media Days, the players were like, yeah, he took away our helmet. Or yeah, he took away our lockers and all of our t-shirts. And so we're going to earn it. And I thought that was the stupidest thing in the world. Well, he's in a pretty good spot. Now I heard Florida and some were all doing that right now. Yeah. Listen, this is the reason I don't think Kentucky is going to disrupt the SEC next year. Their first conference game is against Alabama. Then they go to Texas A&M, then at South Carolina, home against LSU, and at Oklahoma. That is the first five games for the Will Stein era in the SEC. I don't see any way that they're not one in four at the absolute best after those five games. What are you judging them based on Kentucky last year? And not this new Kentucky that's a completely overhauled roster, basically.

28:53Yeah, I think South Carolina, I think the North sellers was built in a lab for Kendall Brails. I think that offense is going to be spectacular for South Carolina this year. And Alabama is going to figure it out. LSU has talent all over the field. They paid $50 million for a roster. Oklahoma was a playoff team. It's just going to be very difficult. Texas A&M will play off team. This turned out to be a harder schedule than I thought that Kentucky had, because I was prepared to say, yeah, Will Stein's going to be able to disrupt. And then you get Vanderbilt, and Tennessee, and Missouri, and Florida. I mean, it just doesn't stop for them. I think this is a bad luck for Kentucky. But in year one, you probably want the bad luck to happen at that point so you can continue to move forward. I'm sure there's a why not us thing that Indiana has created around the country for programs like Kentucky, you know, why not us. And they're probably going to try to mimic the blueprint, you know, portal heavy, older kids.

29:56That you can kind of see that coming. But like Steven said, without schedule, you're going to find out quick. Alabama is there week two in Lexington. Probably find out quite a bit about Kentucky and Alabama in week two. Yeah, I don't need the basketball schools, winning titles like if Kentucky football gets good and Yukon starts to get good. I mean, we don't need that. Here comes Villanova. I think they get rid of their football team. I don't know. They were playing FCS for a while. I don't know. Yeah, they, I don't know. I don't think they did, but they're very good. Well, they were good in FCS for a while. It is interesting what Steven brought up. And I got to keep your mind, folks, too, is like we're looking at schedules and we're looking at teams on paper for next year. Kind of still last year in our memory. Kind of to wipe the slate, right? Because think of last year, go to the last year. We all looked at, oh, this is going to take a step back. They're going to be worse. No, they were actually better. You know, it's like, so we don't really know, but when you start to dissect, go, oh, I need to wipe my brain clean

30:58of the perspective of these teams from last year, because this year is going to be very different. Yeah, I think you could switch it one or two wins off of perspective. I don't know that Kentucky, they went four wins, five wins last year. I don't think they're going to jump up to eight or nine. I don't think that's in the cards, but they could be better. And I really like Will Stein as a coach. I think they're going to be good. That schedule is just ridiculous. They're just kind of brutal. Yeah. That's a whole lot better if he found a way to hold on to Cutter Bowley. That dude can play. Yeah. And all he needed was the Tennessee defense and unlock it. It was the Tennessee secondary and all of a sudden he turned into Tom Brady. Really go the rest of the way, man. Texas A&M gets Avers on a state with Cutter Bowley. So that'll be, uh, that'll be an interesting one to watch in the noncon. But the Mississippi state at Minnesota game, all of a sudden, I am so intrigued by that. Yeah. Probably two parallel programs, right? At this point, yeah, I mean, it's like row the boat.

31:59And it's like, is it an ice breaker? I don't know what's going on. I just want to see that. A game in Minneapolis, Mississippi state playing. Yes. Yeah. I'm in. I'll win. Yeah. Exciting quarterback. And that kid's got a lot of athletic skills. Kind of similar to the North sellers. And, uh, you know, it'll be interesting to see, uh, how, how quickly. Uh, he's good. You know, he's got a good quarterback coach there and Jeff Levy, but, uh, that, that is a fascinating game. Yeah. I wish it was in, uh, late November when it was like snowing, real, real hard. That was, you know, bring back all white uniforms for Mississippi. State so they can blend in the good news is Jens. We're into February now. We will be into spring practice here very soon. We've got spring game debts, uh, dates being set. We actually have spring games being played this year because we got rid of the stupid spring portal. So Vandy is up, uh, Vandy is going to play a spring game this year. I mean, it's, they play to announce the day. But I, I would be shocked if they played an actual game.

32:59I bet it's going to be seven on seven, one on one's 10 plays scripted and then get out. But they will see. Well, it might be full on open it up with face on Brandon and George McIntyre made the best. I need to. Maybe I should win last year. They played a real game. So, okay. Wow. Arkley wasn't scared. Was it, was it, was it Kaelin to bore like, we'll play one, but take us off national TV. We're not, we're not televised. Yeah. I'd be surprised. Fallbaim has a full, hey, we had a printing hot dog in contest. So I don't even know, man. Didn't seem to settle back either. It didn't seem to settle miss back the, uh, the dunk contest and the hot dog thing, uh, didn't settle miss back, kind of springboarded them into the best season in, uh, school history. Yeah, seriously. I heard that. LSU fans get ready for a tug of war or something like that. That's what's coming. You're right. Crawfish, eating contest. Remember that. It's not bad. Yeah. Remember to follow and subscribe to your favorite SEC show. We'll be covering your team every day throughout the off season.

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