Road Rage Killer & Family Murderer ｜ Terrell Lewis Interrogation

0:00Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Victory Lane? Yeah, it's even better with Chamba by my side. Race to chambacacino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, VTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. CTNCs, 21 plus sponsored by ChambaCacino. Welcome to your top true crime hub for the variety in episodes you're looking for. Enjoy. Yeah, let me shoot nobody. I'll let you shoot nobody. No gun at all. OK. Why would your son tell us otherwise? Let's take a seat. You want to water something? No. All right. I'm going to get some papers. I want to show you some pictures of some stuff. I'm not going to talk to you about your current charges. All right. I want to ask you a single thing about that. Just to let you know. OK. All right. I'll be right back. No water? No. All right. Mr. Lewis, my name's Detective Abbott.

1:02And this is my partner to take these photos. Like I said before, I'm not going to talk to you about nothing that you charged with, OK? But because you are charged with the crime and you're in the jail, this is a police station. I need to read your rights before I ask you about something completely different, OK? Oh, they understand that? That way I'm not messing up your current case. Got you? So the place that we're at is the police memorial building. It's PMB. Is what I put on here? The initials. Today's date is Friday, June 3rd. And it's currently 12.35 PM. You had court today, right? Yeah. Did that go OK? I guess. I'm not sure. I'm not confused. Yeah. Yeah, it's confusing in there. Are you able to read and write? Oh, yeah. OK. Are you able to read this first line? I'm going to read it to you. OK. Yes. All right. You have the following rights under the United States

2:03Constitution. OK. You don't have to make a statement or say anything. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before you make a statement. I can't take that with glasses. Or before any questions are asked of you and to have a lawyer with you during any questioning. And if you can't afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questions. If you wish, it's my understanding you already have a lawyer. OK. OK. But still a pause, I guess. And if you do answer questions, you have the right to stop answering questions at any time. I can sort with the lawyer. Do you understand? OK. Do you want to sign this acknowledging that I read it? Yeah. Yeah. OK. All right. And I'll sign it too. All right.

3:06Where were you currently living before you got arrested? Three. No. So on the east side, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. East 11? Yeah. OK. East all west. OK. On the fake street. All right. All right. And how long have you lived there? Like three phone lines. OK. Do you know anybody like who lives off Sutel, Montcree, Faria? OK. Yeah. I mean, some people do some people don't. I don't know. What we get? Just tell me what we get in it. Well, I'm getting into it. Do you remember the last time you were ever in that area? No. No. We all go in that area. Me and my son. OK. And don't need to know. All right. So you usually with you?

4:07Yeah. Does he live with you? Apparently, there's with me most of the time. Most of the time. And I used to live with him. Like three days a week, or is it like this week? Oh, yeah. OK. I just put off. Pretty smart kid. And you know, he has to be easily if you're in front of us at times. Well, but like, great was. I mean, like. Yeah, most of our year, like that. I mean, he's only in the first grade. I was saying great. Yeah. Sometimes kids read early and you're like, oh, man. No. You see kids are like, I'll be going with you. Come on. Well, I was just I was curious. There's a crime that happens up in the Citel area. And I was just curious if you need anything about it. That's what I'm getting at. But you say you've never been up in that area. You don't go in that time. Well, if Johnny, she was, that's who she ever anything. She probably messed up with somebody else. I'm not sure.

5:07But okay. Yeah. All right. Well, let me just show you some pictures. Have you ever seen this car before? It's a BMW SUV. My friend Robyn had one. And I was going to call it. Yeah. Robyn, a male or female? See that. Female Robyn. How long ago was that? This is like years ago, like 2010, 2012. 2012? Yeah. But do you know anybody like recently or have you had any problems with anybody driving a car like? No, it was there. Okay. I got to have a picture of it. This would be right off of Montcreefe and Dosty Drive East or West and Wellend Road? No.

6:07Just south of Sito. No, we don't even hang in the ghetto area. Do you know where Lonnie Miller Park is? It's kind of right by that. Yeah, I heard it. Maybe hanging out down and we can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of an older crowd. They sit up there and grill and drink all day. Yeah. I don't really bother anybody. All right. All right. But this, this was over there. There's a lady that got shot over there. She ended up crashing her car to the house. Yeah. Had you heard about that? I didn't know. Tell me about that. Who didn't tell you anything? Um, John Isham. Did you hear that? Jarrell never said nothing about that. I mean, that's something that would have been talked about. Yeah. Okay. It's a young lady shot sitting in that car. So, yeah. Why would, um, John Isham have talked about it. Now, this is just something, if it was an involvement or something like,

7:10are she heard of it or news about it? Yeah, she would come to me because I suppose I've been on a bench ring, but things was going left for some reason. What caused things to get left? That's when I, I'm not getting any of those. Oh. Sometimes you never know, you know. You never know what's going on in a woman's mind. Let's get down to the details. Yeah. Do you know anybody named Dacia Daniels? No. Most people I know, I follow them on Facebook. Okay. Yeah. I don't have Facebook. I do. I got a lot of friends on that. Okay. But is Dacia Daniels one of the friends? No. I know about her. I think I really don't mess with people like that. I'm not a peep person. All right. I don't think she was either. She's kind of a loner. But she is dead. Did you have any kind of problems since what March?

8:17With any kind of problems with anybody trying to hurt you or anything? No. Actually, I thought I'd be moved out of Kindletown. And she said, well, however, then I moved on 11th Street. That's when my son was standing back and falling with me. And with her. So she was off of university, right? Yes, sir. And you were off ace 11th. So that's nowhere near over here. Yes, sir. And you don't really go into that part of the hood. You don't know anybody over there? I'm not like that. If we do take a ride, we don't stop and get involved with people. We're not a peep person. Gotcha. No one. That's what I'm saying. She shouldn't be involved with no one either. So. Do you ever go up into the Callahan area? Up. You just want up there for anything? That's just north of that area? No. If we do, we're going about a car. I thought you was going to say, like, 301 area.

9:18Like, 301. Yeah. I mean, that's way west. Yeah. I'm thinking like, US one. New Kings Road. Yeah. It comes right up. It comes past Montgrade, Merle Fairfax, 45th, Edgewood, Cleveland. No, I don't know. I don't know if we're going to see her stepmom next day's off Edgewood, Shaneid Binner. Shaneid? Binner. Yeah. Yeah. Shaneid's a public Shaneid car. I guess I'm not sure that's a step mom. Yeah, honey. How dad had over the worse, so Okay, you remember the last time you all went to see her I sold a home to add a home and in her yard It was something that's hung on the court From him I sold it Okay, yeah Kind of cool. You make a lot of money on that. Yeah Not bad. Do you remember what month? That month and then

10:20I share a product to about three About three months ago Okay, I don't know if that means anything or not, but I'll write it down sold car Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing victory lane. Yeah, it's even better with Chumba by my side Race to Chumba Casino dot com. Let's chumba. No purchase necessary VTW group voidware prohibited by law C T and C's 21 plus sponsored by Chumba Casino But you haven't had any like road rage incidents or anybody chasing you down and no crazy like no, okay, and You don't really go on that side of town, so you probably don't know anything about this No, me and Johnny she will take our rights, but like I said, we never stopped in All no, okay, we're about any like Hitting runs anyone like side swept you and wouldn't stop or anything like that. Oh, aren't precious. She I don't know

11:24She says she got an accident Yeah, yeah, she did get an accident she said She did she did say she got an accident I'm not sure but she did said she got an accident I think was the you haul truck If I'm not mistaken, she had a lot of soup on against her But this was on university, okay, but And like I said, I'm not gonna talk about your current charges Have you fired a weapon out of window while driving the car at all? No, I just I just got involved with this incident here and Trying to see how this goes what I haven't had no involvement

12:27Nothing, so we need to find out what's going on. That's why I said just be straight up with me. Yeah, I'm yeah I mean, I have some questions to try to be straight up with you. Yeah Well, I Mean there's not a lot to it. You know, I'm just that's why I'm trying to paint your brain See yeah, see if you was in there at all if you heard about it if you know about but if you you haven't Far again out of window or jumped out and shot at another car or anything like that. I don't know This is before all this other stuff. Great No road rage your problems going through that area. You're don't even really go that area at all Yeah, we don't okay We take our rides meet like I said me during her and probably go get a car if anything and when we was in that area That's what step mom lives it on edge with edge with south of there though like edge with new Kings wait when you pass Let's see you Coming up

13:28This is how we'll take our off We'll come up a Internal we'll make a left phone edge would we'll ride that way like we'll make a left on edge wood Mm-hmm, and then we'll go to mission 8 area or we'll come down one grief on 45 take our rides get back on 95 Go to south side of Martin King expressway and We'll probably ride to south side. We own park sometime park a lot at a academy's works on Kindle And we go to the beach a lot. We ride down Atlantic. Okay. Yeah, are you from Jacksonville? No, I'm from Florida. Oh, okay. Yeah I used your accents a little bit different than people from Jacksonville. Yes, sir So I was like it. I don't know. It's not like he's from yeah from this neck of the woods as they say so Limternor left on edge wood and that takes you down to like Cleveland to get into 45th

14:29Our Montcree if you said Montcree. Yeah, by the liquor store make a left on there. We come up And it's like a gas station. I believe we'll make a left right when they call watching that well park or something Past the car wash on the right hand side that next life make a left and we go to 95 Get on 95. We'll probably get on Martin King expressway Uh, we'll probably go with a green grid a lot of bargaining grids. Yeah I'm using the heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah to get back over to university. Got you. Okay All right Well, let's let you hit the shot Deja Shots at intercar two times in the head I know it's a graphic picture to to look at Young girl Got a little boy about one years old

15:33Trying to Enjoy her Sunday and have a good time and You know something happened and she ends up getting You know chase down and shot in the head Trying to car trying to go pick a little boy up It's kind of sad. It just happened. This happened in um Like toward the end of March Yeah, but it was all in that area that I was talking about All right, you're wanting to work hard. So what what led to you guys coming to me. Thanks me questions Well, there are things with your current case that link to this case Which is which is the bullets are the same All right So the guns the bullets from those guns and the case that I'm not going to talk to you about right are the same ones from this

16:34Yeah, and Johnny's is not here right But I will miss him with this girl. No, I don't really love you guys you guys are complete strangers I don't think that you know or and I don't think that she knows you. I don't think that she knows Janisha it's a complete strangers But you can see where that's really troubling on our side right There'd be any reason you can think of why That's why I'm trying to figure out when it was this like You get late March March 20th Sunday day night. Anything We'll lock your sunset You know Usually she's be with me or she's at her brother house on our university You know, I read the city

17:36But like I said, she don't be with me and my son all the time. So What kind of car did Janisha you really drive? We had all different cars because I put it like I put Oh, you said you put cars. I have her put them in my name and going her name and then I'll sell like that. So And if she's driving the cars she just drives her car, but she don't have a car either for a long time Like she'll have a A car for maybe two months if that if it gives a problem will sell it I have a car every two, three days. So Yeah, it's a lot to do with yeah If you can take the records of on cars That's in our name if you go to the long The task electors. Yeah, okay. It's probably a long less time. Yeah All right, I'm not really interested in the cars as much as trying to get to the bottom of the kill this young lady

18:40Because it's uh I mean you have a son you care about your son, right? You know Can you imagine going to pick him up and something happened along the way and You know, he's without his dad. Yeah, I haven't even talked to him. That's what I was asking about I was like some of my problem attorney. Um, actually talked to my son as well, you know I Don't I don't know where he's at and I don't know how he's doing I haven't talked to him either. I haven't seen him never even met him None of you guys Nobody knows what he's at nothing. I'm sure he's with family. Yeah, um, but Your current case was an investigated by our team Um, I was off that day. I didn't need it at work. So I never went out there I didn't talk to you. This is the first time I've ever met. I didn't go to the scene. I didn't see the cars I didn't do anything Yeah, not now this gets deeper because I'm not kind of figure who she's been involved with what else you could mess with What's Janae's phone number? Do you know that off the top of your head?

19:42Oh Nine over four four one five two two zero nine Okay But this girl lives in that area stays in that area. She doesn't really branch out from that area so If you guys live over across town from there You don't really know anybody you're hanging out over there. The chances of her knowing her Or slim to none. I don't think there's a connection. I can look through phone records Yeah, let's see and see, but I don't believe that uh But I'm like I said, I have no involvement with this girl either in myself either like relationship Yeah, I didn't think you did. Yeah, I didn't think you did Um, like I said, I believe that you guys are all strangers Like you've never seen her you've never met her You don't know her You can have this bitch I can yeah

20:44What is it? Just you just making a think outside the box and I like she's involved with somebody else Like uh, let's be in relationship or with some other yeah, I don't know just You guys have problems with Yeah, we was off and on you know, so that's why she wanted to live I've never understood why she wanted to live with her brother and her sister on the couch When we had someone stay you didn't make sense Why would you want to sleep on the couch when you got somewhere in the bed where you can stay in the house You didn't turn the key whenever you want You know the matter problems I mean always just the Leafs was up when we moved from Kindle Town and Decide to stay there instead of stay with me in Jarell so Got my Kindle Town the apartment server about war yeah, yeah, okay. I uh I've been on this earth for a little bit of time, but I can honestly say

21:48I have not figured women out, you know, they come up with things in their heads and Who knows about they do what? Yeah, this is You believe there's something else? Yeah, the more the more the more the more days come by the more you think about the more Distance things talk is not and up You know, and then I call I call her I call her brother for one right and it's wrong Right, so sometimes they did night we stay on the phone all night, right? So suddenly the phone just hangs up. I'll call back She don't pick up then she come back. I was later Like three four in the morning like she was sleep, but any other night the phone just they don't And we'll wake up since five in the morning You gotta have a hell of a phone bill No, no, no, no, it's an eminence. I don't know. Yeah But you know, you just call each other and be in different places and believe the phone because she was staying with her brother

22:49How long she had that phone number Yes, yes So y'all y'all were the type where you have one phone number like forever like because I mean you remember that she did Yeah, she never wanted to get rid of the number. Yeah, who's the phone with It was with T-Mobile and then she switched it over to Metro I think Metro Metro on T-Mobile. Yeah, but she that's what she did Is she is are you with metros? I wish she's supposed to do it. I was with I was with cricket grip. Okay Which is like an AT&T one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's they all buy each other. How do you spell her name Janisha? J-O-H-N-I-S-E I-S-A Yeah, Williams Now we're y'all like married or just together within together for nine years I'm just out of the blue she just Didn't want to live with you guys anymore. Yeah, when the leaks was up. She didn't want to do remember what month the lease went up

23:52I'm not sure if you go to Kendalltown now, let you know you go to the apartment complex I guess that's easy enough to do all right Then you can kind of get met inside what was really going on, you know, you know, you know, they can figure it out like I said, we're still trying to figure it out You know, you got me. I want to know too, you know, I have my dollars I just I want to talk about that, but yet It wasn't there. No, all right Um Do you have any more specific questions about anything? Uh, yeah, so um you say you like to flip Cars and stuff like that Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing The rush of racing nothing beats it, but Jumbo Casino comes close

24:56Jumbo's got fast spins fun games daily bonuses and all the action you can handle Now that's all right ready to hit the throttle get in the driver's seat and head to chumbacacino.com Let's chumbac sponsored by chumbacacino no purchase necessary VGW group voidware prohibited by law 21 plus turns and conditions apply You buy a car and sell a car Was that like your main job? This is what I do. That's what you do Did you only do that kind of strictly with cars or was it other property too? Like you'd buy stuff off Facebook marketplace and sell it or Cars. Yeah Cars if if not I do it off on Craigslist Offer what was kind of like getting fraudulent too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah as well as Craigslist too. Yeah. Yeah, actually you to um takes back with that holding Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I got you. I got you. I think that's fair to be kind of suspicious of those things Um, but like I said you'd kind of focus you focus mostly on cars. It wasn't like lawnmowers or firearms or dishwasher

25:57I want my phone because I had her. She was concealed. She was okay All right, I mean she was concealed if I needed a firearm. She'd get a fun. You know, she'll whatever I need it You know, okay, all right. I didn't need the trait like if you look on that I will say people like when trading farms. I didn't need a firearm. Yeah, you know, do that on the streets. Okay. I got you Um, what kind of firearms was it? Um, she had a 38 she had a couple of three eighties. She had a nine. She had a She bought a 357 Uh, purchased a shotgun, which was in a storage unit She keeps all these at the house. Uh, in the storage Where's the storage yet? Um, extra space storage. She had two of them. Oh, okay. Yeah, one of them. So I'd park away if I'm not mistaken One off that uh, at any bullet or

27:00Actually, okay. How frequently would she like buy guns and stuff Oh, you could check the records. She always do it. Yeah, I said when you get a concealed I don't know. You don't have that waiting period. You'll get that one day. Yeah, take it and walk out. Yeah, okay Yeah, those are nice to have. Yeah, for sure Um, we were talking about phone numbers earlier and you said that she was the kind to like have one like for a really long time Where is that take it you meant like you you weren't like that if you have you had a bunch of different phone numbers Yeah, um, when I was you know, I was sending cars and gave me that sure. Yeah. Yeah, so um, I had a two three six nine two three six number That two three six number Yeah, and uh I Had another one trying to think of you how I first thought maybe you can look it up

28:01Hold on It's uh Trouble six there's six thirty three thirty six six six six thirty three thirty six. That's what I um because I used that when I go to auto zone That auto zone number yeah Yeah, that was my number two. That was T-Mobile as well. Okay. Yeah. Okay All right, so it sounds like you're pretty close to your son, Jarelle, right? Yeah, for the last three months I was because that was another thing. She let him move with me You get what I'm saying? Yeah, what mother gives up their child Yeah, that does seem kind of honest and if you act if you act something mom, it was always normally more custody of my son But before they would let her do her thing and I had to take up guardianship over my son Which I had no way through with DC up. Yeah, so they gave up ownership But now this is a case going on now they want that because of the benefits basically don't come off of it

29:02So now I'm fighting for the rights for him. Yeah, right now as we speak. I had got a subpoena for custody Yeah, so that's what we're going through right now as well on a separate case. Okay. Yeah, okay Let's say you enjoy you guys like right around together y'all like, you know Is it kind of seem like you all get to see his videos with you most of the time? Yeah, y'all pretty tight You were taking up there like Lonnie Miller or anything hanging out like barbecue on weekends or anything like you Sometimes we'll ride. Yeah, sometime. Okay. Yeah You got any particular just right around the city. We just ride around the city It could be on the south side. It can be on the north side. It can be on the west side of hundred and third um That's the main hour rouse like uh, we'll go to the beach We'll go to Hammond Park and go sit out on the beach out there um Trying to think of the spots that we'll go to head park good um, we'll go to

30:07Blue Cypress. Yeah, call it the island. That's another pretty one. Yeah, yeah, we go to the Cypress. Yeah Yeah, call it island. We go to both parts. It's it's a park on the on the side and then it's um I'm sorry, this is a park and then we'll go to the one We weigh down off one before you go to it in the ghetto and go around the curb and then it's another park back down the back We'll go to the south side of the university. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the marina way back in the back. Yeah, we'll go to the side spots with me Charter point. Yeah, I got you You think he's pretty honest kid. I know you say he's like easily influenced Yeah, yeah, he's pretty honest. Long as you don't have people around him telling them what to do like Yeah, he won't be misled. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's important for all kids like my I got a kid You just kept just finished up kindergarten. So Joe's a little bit older but not too much, but if you kind of

31:08You know, like ask them open-ended questions like you know and not like Influence them away or the other they're usually pretty honest. Yeah That's why I try to keep him up front of me when yeah sure you left, but you know His mom was People parent different for sure I mean even this and I'm like yeah, trying to turn him against me basically That's better be rough on her terms, but I tried to keep him with me, but now it's time. That's why I want to know what's really going on Yeah, sure. I can give you more information So you can find out who was she really involved with I mean it's too late now, but yeah, yeah Yeah, and you know like detective ever said, you know, we hadn't met you before. I don't even know one of us You know both of us from the same boat. We weren't we didn't go out to the previous scene getting nothing to do with what you're in Joe You know, your other charges But you know some things come up, you know, you didn't seem surprised when Detective Abbott said the bullets match

32:10You you said yeah, right Like you almost like you like you knew that What why is that just kind of curiosity, you know because he was always switching guns Okay, you get one sense. So I would never know. It's always like I was trick the whole time when I was with her Okay, she was like oh, yeah, I just want to do better. I bought you a new one. So I'll take it because I mean hey, I didn't pay for it So but she would try to give me protection when I go sell cars. She was protecting Supposedly, but at the end like when I go to the car. She's supposed to go to the car She don't she don't go to the car at home She don't go to the car. She'll stay at the door now and let me just go out You know, I'm saying so I'm like them and she said me up. Yeah, when I'm making a transaction She got her head down. She's not paying attention Huh, you know when I'm waving at her by she's in the car supposedly. Yeah, I didn't when I'm making the transaction I got the money on them driving the other car. She'll fall back. No, and I don't have a tag on the vehicle

33:13You get one sense. Oh, I'm like Dead trying to get me stop. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. I'm about to take you in a way. I know about the law So I'm right pull over wait on It was all getting sketchy at the end. Sure. Yeah It would make sense though like if you're gonna sell a car and you're selling online You don't know who the hell's coming up there to meet, you know You're trying to buy a car. So you're gonna have a lot of money. I mean I mean in an open area always Nearly at the Reese's mall. Yeah, I made a Reese's mall. I meet at pep boys 105 40 in a bill of art. I mean if you check the cameras I'm detectives already came before and tried to see where I was doing legal business. And I actually was um Sometimes I meet at Academy in the open area. All right, then movies Let me take the spots I mean down to I mean right here at the Jaguar stadium. Okay. I mean the Jaguar stadium gate three

34:17Gate three I give this like what I mean I do Everything was going left at the end of the stage like it was never adding up. She didn't want to sometimes she didn't want to go You know, and sometimes she'll meet me, but she says she can't meet me right then But she'll meet me and come pick me up. Yeah, sometimes I have to call other people to come get me because she can't make it And uh, every since she started working at Amazon. It was just going up when we left You think she was dating somebody or where? Probably That's why I said I want to get to the mother mother because it was it was feeling like I was man sawed up like at the end The late night. She was always wanting to try to go get some heat 12 in the morning Why would you wait to the end? So that's why I tell you sometime we go to academies because we're going to sleep in the parking lot I see even an open air right can see everything. Yeah, yeah, and uh now if it's a stop the officer came to us and It's on the police for a part of the hard like document

35:20That he stopped us and we were sitting in the truck. Don't you? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't know that it still works Yeah, but what car are you guys sleeping? Mazda tribute We slept in the Honda Accord He's a couple cars. Good boy. Yeah, all right Mazda tribute. You don't even know what that is. It's like as you just like before um For it uh escape Okay, yeah, a small SUV. Yeah, you got you Yeah So she had the console license she'd buy guns for you But you that way you could have it for protection. Cool. You know, so that makes a lot of sense Um, like I said you never know who's coming to meet you and if somebody tries to pull a little switcheroo and rob you Yeah, I was sure protected. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I would definitely want that to Um, ask the lady man. I ain't got none of that You said three you said a couple of three of these that she bought

36:23For you guys a 9 millimeter 357 and then the shotgun was in the other place in the storage Okay, I hope no one was in the storage too as well. Do you know where any of these guns are now? Um My mom probably has some if I'm not mistaken because they probably could have the house out of storage Oh, you know Uh-uh, it's just something like that I think we have one of the three eighties I'm not mistaken Okay, um Do you ever like go to any like the range or anything like practice shooting them? Not she didn't go with the three eighties. We had went to the range with a glove It's only one if I'm not mistaken. We'll go about 19. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You do that pretty frequently It was a kind of a one-time thing you went out of twice what a couple times twice You went out beach with a large gun gather. Yeah. Yeah Okay, that's a popular one. Yeah, I like going there too. Yeah, the one by the eight ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like air condition in the bag

37:24They got nice little rifles in the bag. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I don't know. They went there once but it was for For work Never got to shoot out there. I guess I'm in twice. It's a pretty nice range. Yeah. It's kind of cool in the back I like how it's all indoors Yeah, get your own lane kind of do your own thing. Yeah. I took my side. Oh, yeah, you took your own. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah You don't have to be 18 to shoot out there. No The one of those seconds as long as you have a parent you can't go any. Yeah. You sound important. Yeah How do you allow do you like that? I mean, it's just target practice basically. Yeah, but I mean Little kid getting to shoot like a like a pistol or something. No, you protection. You got to teach him how to protect. I mean Sometimes it just be me and him making a transaction because she don't want to go You gotta think about it. Why don't she want to go and then Sometimes I get my address, but I don't be at that physical address. I haven't eaten somewhere else But it'll be within the same vicinity. Yeah, yeah

38:27Yeah, I do stuff like that too as well just to make sure they come really to buy a car It's pretty smart of you to I've been doing this for years. Yeah, I guess you gotta be smart and think about things A lot differently to be careful since I protect yourself 2012 almost Yeah I'd probably go out there the first time I get robbed. No, you won't. Could you be smart? You have me in open area. Yeah, if you're thinking like that Why would you meet somebody who has a lot of places like Walmart? Why would I meet you Walmart? I don't know Who's coming in where where are you too many people come on Yeah Still, I mean a lot of people don't think like that don't have the ability to forward think as they call it to like see the big picture And I'll play in the head Just kind of like sheep going through life with their head down. They're blinders on they don't know what's around them So I should have been a cop. Yeah, that was my major. I was a criminal justice. Okay. Yeah, I graduated with a bachelor's

39:35Yeah, did you go through like a BLE class or anything? No, I finished at UWC. I interned a Problom down south with Sarah Fowl. Okay, I legally. Yeah, yeah, I never got into it Yeah, you probably had like watch bunch of videos Like how a bunch of people are much more work. Yeah, yeah, I did that once at a law firm and I said they're reading their base divorce paperwork. Yep divorce it. Yep. You know it. They're like oh All right, man Well Do you have anything else? Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing victory Lane Yeah, it's even better with chamba by my side race to chamba casino.com. Let's chamba No purchase necessary btw group void work prohibited by law ct and c's 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino Okay Well, I appreciate your time. I thought you guys were the psych people The psych people. Yeah, this I was beginning on Evade waste cycling. Oh, we don't do that here. Yeah, I didn't know either he had his he had the uh

40:42That flip around like that. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, no, we work in the homicide unit Okay, anytime y'all you know just come because I want to get to my mom up because I always felt like So we're going left. Yeah, the whole time well I've done a lot of research into this case and I've already pulled you know Sophone locations and we've got the ballistic reports and witness statements and everything else and everything is going against you on this case against me How is that Like I just said You know Location data on cell phones The the ballistics from your car case Managing this case We came from the same guns I forget the end of the millimeter

41:43It's it's all the blinked those are hard guns though Yeah And those are the guys she bought them. Yes, but you you guys both used them like you said Yeah, we did at the gun range. We didn't use those I don't know if you use them at the gun range or not I'm not talking about the gun range. I'm talking about Miss Daniels getting murdered Yeah Yeah, well, she had those and she traded them out so how would I be involved Yeah, that doesn't make sense Yeah, well, I'm going to charge you with that murder today Okay And I had no involvement you want to talk to me with them or That's not possible. It is possible. I believe you. I believe you're involved. Can we talk to Jarel? Jarel was interviewed before I ever met him and He said in an interview

42:45Not with the police because he's too young to be police. Don't talk to him because he's too young He goes through counselors and psychologists that just say hey what happened today And he he tells everything that he knows It's all recorded and they say is anything else scary ever happened And he brings up this incident So yeah My dad shot at this lady that cut us off in traffic No That's what he said and I was like hmm That's kind of scary. I mean that seems like my case And then the ballistics match And then your cell phone data puts you at the scene right at the exact same time Okay wait my with my cell phone Yeah, the cell phone that we got off of you when you were arrested or the other detectives did They unlocked it There's a phone number that's linked to it We go through the phone company

43:47I don't remember the door off the top of my head but It was your phone and your number I know you got a lot going on with the previous case And I know there was a lot going on at the time with her with possible infidelity and Her leaving you and not giving you any answers and I know that can drop people Just mockers with not knowing what's going on and you know sometimes your mind plays tricks on you What's going on what she doing why she doing this why she lagging back why she's not going with me to help me out of these meetings You know and you're still searching for answers. I can see it okay I can still see that There's a lot of unknowns out there that you have no idea what's going on and you want answers to To kind of nail down. Well, what was she doing? What was going on I could see that All right, yeah, but why would I be involved in this crime without it cute a good

44:49At anyway That's well, we we feel otherwise We're gonna go a whole piece with you. Yeah, I'm not sure we're all gonna give you all the evidence You will give it or attorney all the evidence You will get all the evidence, but as of right now based on the investigation and everything everything the totality of everything All of all the evidence I have was given to a judge to make a decision Hey, is this enough for an arrest warrant for second-degree murder or not the judge agreed it was Yeah, but signed this morning at 5.30 a.m But I wasn't the one shooting a guy. That's Hey shot the gun then Obviously he had to be heard and someone else our Johnny show has to be I don't even I don't even have a three-eight. I had and she gave she gave me a nine minute So a nine millimeter, but not a 380. No, that's what she gave me

45:53Yeah, the 380 was the worst a nine millimeter at the police have it. I believe. Yeah, I don't know if they have that or not I know they have a 380. Yeah That's what they share They should also have a nine millimeter great Okay, there are questions. I have about the nine millimeter bit of links too much into your current case Which I told you I didn't want to talk to you about right She had the 380 that I drew up and tell you that that's what I'm saying. I said I never had she had a 380 you had a nine millimeter Great and what she gave me a nine millimeter did both of you guys shoot danger? No That didn't shoot nobody. I didn't shoot no no no gun at all Why would your son tell us otherwise? You tell me when have you guys interviewed after after the crime So I think that's an I think that's an important detail thriller. I think it's important that you brought it up But I think it's also important that you know that

46:54We have not interviewed him. Yeah, because he is too young because like you said He's impressionable a lot of kids at age impression You know, but he's asked like detective Abbott said he's asked very open questions like we said kids at age You kind of have to let them fill in the blanks. You can't say you know Can't give him yes or no questions because they try to give you answers to the thing you want to hear Totally not forced at all. Drill comes out with this. Yeah, this happened and my dad shot her We didn't even know About you guys in this case. He's the one that brought it up. All right He he the line-sided everybody or the interviewer in the room best thing. Oh, yeah This one time some lady did kind of soft and traffic and my dad chased her down and shot better Season of the WSUV But then the guns match, but then the guns match and then your cell phone shows you in that same area at that same time That's that's a lot of evidence. It's a lot of physical evidence Great and his statement because he's so young and it's done through the psychologist his statement is even evidence

48:01Okay, then what's this because she has my phone too is what you guys not getting this whole story That's that's what I'm telling you So when was this that's why I actually when was this She doesn't have your phone when when was the interviewer because He was interviewed they turned around Correct Right, I don't know if you were arrested in the morning or the evening. I think it was afternoon But I he was interviewed. I'm almost certain that day. Yeah So I'm getting tired because Because of the evidence because of the evidence, right However, I wasn't physically there, but the evidence Whatever you have makes me get char. Yes I don't think she had your phone because like you said You know you'd call her and she wouldn't answer great. You needed your phone for some kind of purposes

49:03You needed your your phone for her visit Hey, it's Bubba Wallace from 2311 Racing. You know what feels like forever Sitting on a plane waiting for takeoff Good thing. I've got Jamba Casino with daily boost in social casino games on tap This is a kind of fun that makes time fly Why not turbocharged your downtime play now at jamba casino.com. Let's jump up Sponsored by chumpa casino no purchase necessary VGW group forward where prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply You wouldn't take her phone because you need to have full access to get in touch with her wherever she's at So if she's at work, you want to talk to her, right? And you want to be able to text her and get a response back to know what she's because team was probably going on So we switched phones at times. Uh, sometimes I have both of them but sometimes she had both It was a lot of team thoughts going on. So but uh, that that's for the more than even the detail, but So he said always carry the 380

50:07And terrell can answer that okay And he can ask that he say which which gun did uh your mom have the big one on a little Because she was I never wanted to see those are the kinds of questions that aren't asked because that's leading yeah It only gives to to to that's that's the answer. Yeah, it has to be something like Is there anything in this room made out of paper? I all right would It could be easily answered Was it was the gun big or little that your mom had that that is the simple the question that they would most likely ask is Have you ever seen your mom carry a gun and he was he and then he would explain it all Yeah, and whatever he says is what we take we wouldn't really ask a lot of follow up questions because then that gets into Leading him down a path and you can't lead a child Into a direction because you have to look the child tell the story and make the picture Yeah, well he needs to be interviewed to make to clarify that I wasn't a fire. I'll die

51:13His his statement was that you did fire again Which I did well Terrell I think it you know detective Abbott and I we're we're we're simple we're telling you that you're being charged Um, but you know the American justice system you're presumed innocent until you're okay So we're not judge jury. We're not any of those things, you know We're here to talk to you because we know there's multiple sides to every story So we're here to talk to you show you some pictures get a statement from you the investigation is going to continue We're not saying this is the last thing we're going to close this book and be done with But it's it is improper and Not right of us to not tell you at this point what's going on So we have the threshold for us is probable cause we have established probable cause For to charge you with her murder, which is what's happening as as the detective Abbott said But the investigation is still going to continue think it's still very important that you told us your concerns about jinesia He told us it's very it's very important that you told us about these other storage spaces and things like that. Okay

52:18So we're still going to look into stuff I just don't want you to think that we're trying to throw the book at you and just you know throw away the keys Says if you have you heard a side story, which you can't hear outside of store now anyway, so Right That's how I'm looking at it. Okay, we have to rely you can't you can't go back and talk to someone once they're dead Right, we all know that yeah, so what we do is we rely on what you have in front of everything else that we can find To it and we've already found enough to it which points to you But like I said and like he said, it's not over. We're still looking You know, it's not the end of the road as they say But this is where we're at at this point. All right Do you have any questions about anything? This is how I want this one It's this one Jarrell has to come through Yagala interview

53:18That lady was shot with what A 9mm at a 380 and I was given a 9mm of maybe two months ago if that yeah, I've been in a month maybe two months ago Just do to do more investigation I mean, I've been honest. I've been open Yeah, you've been open. Yeah What more Can I say I mean you know ask me questions and it's still I'm being charged so We're gonna leave it at that and you gotta do more investigation than you will find out That 380 was not the brothers that came from you Okay And I don't know how the charges are being dropped or what what what happened But I don't think they're gonna get dropped They are most likely going to be filed Um, it doesn't get to the point where we sit down and talk to you at least

54:21Not in my cases. I make sure everything is virtually done All the big things are done before I sit down and talk to somebody. Yes. There's a couple of things I need to check on now that we've we've talked why But by the time we get to the point where I sit down and talk to you. I've already gotten I've already gone through an attorney a judge You know the supervisors on on the police side and everything to make sure everything is straight To get an arrest warrant Um, I've already served your arrest warrant before I come brought you over. All right. I mean it's it's done Thank you. You're arrested on it. Okay so I don't know exactly what your First charges were like three counts of secondary murder. I'm guessing This is gonna be a fourth You

55:27Are you sure you got nothing to do with this? No, I did not shoot. Oh, no, I did. Okay. I'm gonna leave them with you. I'm gonna leave it at that time. I'm done with Okay, you can interview you got it interview. You're all right All right Would you like a water while I finish up coming out sir? Okay You need anything else Just just to clarify what you said, okay Um, and like I said This isn't the end of the road. All right

56:29Um, there's still stuff to look into. Okay, but just just to clarify what you said you didn't have no issues Ever on that side town. No, okay. No Hitting runs or road rages with you. I'm not talking about her you whole thing Like none of that crap ever happened with you. No, okay And you already said you were already very clear. I never shot anybody over there. I didn't shoot All right, so I just wanted to just Once over double check it make sure okay, just because we want to we want to be sure about this stuff Okay, because this is this is serious, you know, right? This is your life, right? Yeah, so we want to be As sure as we can, okay, you know, out of an abundance of caution. That's why we go through so many people before we You know charge people like that, all right? So All right, I'll be right back I

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