Remodeling with Sean Hannah

What does it take to stop avoiding pain and instead use it as a guide for rebuilding the body?

The same movements that caused injury can heal it when performed slowly, partially, and with intention.

"What we try to do is get people to understand that if you have pain, if you have a limitation, you don't stop doing the thing that hurt it. You do the thing that hurt it, slow, partial, light, take it down to the baby amount, the tolerable amount, and then start pushing it back up the scale. And by the time you can do it fast and heavy again, you're healed. Congratulations." ~ Sean Hannah (9:19)

The conversation explores why most people avoid the slow, deliberate work required to truly rehabilitate injuries rather than just return to basic function. The distinction between physical therapy (designed for baseline recovery) and full joint remodeling (a months-to-years process typically reserved for elite athletes) forms the foundation of the discussion. The key insight is that healing requires doing the same movements that caused injury—but slower, lighter, and more partial—rather than avoiding them entirely.

Pain emerges as a multifaceted phenomenon with three distinct layers: actual tissue damage, neuropathic pain (trauma responses encoded in nerves and fascia), and centralized pain (psychological amplification based on beliefs and language). The conversation addresses how someone might present with a knee problem but actually need a full head-to-toe biomechanical remodel, with the knee simply being where the dysfunction surfaces most visibly. The discussion also touches on the origins of the nickname "Seanobi" (an Irish ninja wordplay), the value of intuitive three-dimensional movement versus linear athletic training, and the importance of having something worth playing for as the motivational spark that makes the difficult rehabilitation process possible.

Takeaways

Remodeling versus physical therapy — Physical therapy aims for basic function, but returning to athletic capability requires a separate, longer process called remodeling that most people don't know exists.

The spark — Without something you love doing that's disappearing or already gone, you won't sustain the slow, frustrating work of rehabilitation.

Same movements, different parameters — Healing doesn't require new exercises; it uses the same movements that caused injury, performed slower, lighter, and more partially.

Three layers of pain — Pain includes actual tissue damage, neuropathic responses stored in nerves and fascia, and psychological amplification based on perception and language.

Language affects pain signaling — The words used to describe pain directly influence how much pain is felt; changing the narrative can dampen signaling and allow greater loading.

The blowout point — A presenting injury like a knee problem is often just where a full-body biomechanical imbalance surfaces most visibly.

Tissue-specific protocols — Pace, load, and angle can be adjusted to target specific tissues: nerve and fascia respond to different parameters than muscle and bone.

Guarding responses — Much of chronic pain isn't damage but protective contractions and nerve issues that require precise loading to release.

Threading the needle — Effective rehabilitation requires enough stress to trigger healing responses without crossing the threshold into new damage.

Intuitive versus linear training — Three-dimensional, intuitive movement serves rehabilitation and durability, while linear athletic training like Olympic lifting builds speed and power for sport.

The dial metaphor — Training exists on a spectrum from slow, rehabilitative, three-dimensional work to fast, linear, athletic work, and the dial can be adjusted based on daily capacity.

Becoming your own maintenance mechanic — The goal of guided rehabilitation is independence—learning to address pain and maintain the body without ongoing professional help.

Resources

Monkey Do — "What Moves You?" Sean Hannah's guided mobility and joint remodeling programs.

Monkey Do on YouTube — video content related to the mobility and rehabilitation approach.

Designing curriculum, teaching seniors, and the mid-range — Sean's previous conversation on Movers Mindset covering related topics.

Katy Bowman — mentioned regarding how too much "vitamin flat and level" is a problem.

Iron Gump / MIST — a Movers Mindset conversation discussing meditative strength training.

Parkour Generations — the organization behind American Rendezvous where Craig and Sean last met in person.

(Written with help from Claude.ai)

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