Pimpin Ken 5.25 Full Interview

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1:01He don't need no introduction. He frequents the show. He's made residential with me. This is my home, man. Pippin' Ken in the building. What up, what up, though? How you doing, man? I'm the choice, so what up, though? Oh, that's how I go. They say, what up, though? Man, this line is real, man. How you being, man? Man, I was a Detroit, and I had to come here to see y'all with the funny shoe sales man, and my man, babyface Ray, and my man, the shoe doctor. So all the men, I still, all of them, has been doing interviews with me, and put me on their platforms, and it gave me an enrol in the Detroit, you know. So I've been trying to figure out when I'm gonna get to Milwaukee. Me and you tried about a year, a year and a half ago. I was up in Chicago a little bit. I was trying to get over there. Me and you got to make the trip, man. I got to get over there with you. I want to see all the different places where you grew up at. I've been telling you that you, my partner, and I've been trying to figure that part out. And Milwaukee, be sure of me, love, man. I get a lot of love out of Milwaukee. Yeah, well, Milwaukee is definitely my city, you know what I mean?

2:07I've mentioned Milwaukee, or maybe about 80 million records. So, you know, W of that Pipekin, that self-service puts it to a drip shop where Milwaukee was constantly funky bitch. I said that on multiple albums, to main out, to pre-albumspipekin.com. I said on that album, and I brought HBO, which was a billion streams, a billion viewers. No one has ever topped that. We did that, pimp some holes down, and then put Milwaukee on the map. It's no nigga ever living in Milwaukee, gonna say, put a billion views in the town. And this was back in 96. Come on now, at 30 years ago. Man, it's funny you mentioned Jermaine DePri. I just seen Jermaine DePri hanging out with Big Meech, man. It seemed like they had a hell of a reunion, kind of like when you talk to him in FaceTime, and you sent that to me, like, like how big is it to reconnect like they're doing, man? Well, you know, I never showed this to nobody, but I showed you on your show, you know?

3:07Because, you know, I think it's appropriate. So, I'm gonna show you this right quick. Because a lot of people, you know, they think, you know, you'd be capping, you know? Oh, yeah, I never put it on. I was thinking about putting it out, but this is a, it's me and Big Meech right there. I went down to his house as mentioned. Wow. Yup, yup. Yup, that's hard right there, man. Yeah, so, man, how big was that to reunite with him after all these years? Well, you know, we caught a lot of catching up to do, and, you know, you got to remember, I was at most of the parties. Of course, you talked about it on the show. You know, you know, as soon as he came home, he FaceTime me and kicked it with me. A lot of people don't know, you know, he even gave HHF a shout out. So, if people go to Real Pip, you can't underscore it. They see the first pay. That's all that. Yeah, you know, he gave a shout out to the hip-hop attorney that I told him. He said, what you doing? I said, we turned the kids to stop the violence and put the guns down. So, he said, HHF, stop the guys, but stop the violence with the guns down. So, I was updating them on what's going on

4:10with the situation in the world today. How, you know, it's all about, you know, dynasty, you know, you built your legacy. Your first 30 years, your legacy, your next 30 years, your dynasty, create generational wealth. Wow. And being able to impact the kids because the kids is the ones we were responsible for. You know, I mean, if I'm responsible for, that's why I didn't ask Pimps up, hold down the American Pimps. But if I'm responsible for 100 dudes going to prison because they want to be a Pimps like me, then I'm liable. But I can correct defect by getting out here and pushing a different narrative. And that's what I was explaining to him. You know, it's a lot of people wanted to be big meats and probably ended up in the federal penitentiary. So, you have responsibility as I do, you know, to try to ameliorate and to navigate and segue them to something else. Wow. Wow, man, you know, HHF is a big deal, you know.

5:10I see you, what you got over there for me, man? Well, man, you know. I see it got the balls talk on it. I know the, I know the balls talk, logo. I know the logo, man. Yeah, man. Man, HHF, man. Man, inside fly, man, that's going to keep, keep me warm, man, balls talk. He's in the love night, you know. Man, I show, come on, man, let me get that, man. Passy you. Man, I show appreciate it, man. You know, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I'm going, this, this is going to be me right here, man. What you think about it, baby? You see all the, what they call it, the embroidery? Yeah, all the boy got this on here right then it. Hey, man, it's nice, bro. Ain't going to lie to you. And the money you leaving it at, money from back in the day in there. It might be a couple of million, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know. Man, but this is live, man. I like this, man. Got your name on it, too. Yeah, got ECO, and they got that balls talk on there, real live, and live it, it going down, man. Put this over there. Don't play, man. Thank you so much, Kim, man. I just want to tell you, man, HHF, man, you know,

6:13you rolling out with them. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. He's going to go, she's going to play with you, know? Don't play with this, man. She got it all, she the, oh, she the first one to put it on. I might not never get it back. Now, I'll pull it you right there. I'm back at it, I'm back at it. Okay, I'm just trying to help, baby. I want you to wear it wrong, gotta wear it all the way right. You know what I'm saying? So, but again, man, like I said, HHF, man, and the thing that you represent, man, and the way that you represent, the way I, I, I, I, I, I, the body moves up there with him. Just, and just the way, you know, this thing, bring people back together, I will people back together. And, and with no, you don't have no strings attached. It got to be something that's unified by spirit, right? Yeah, so the purpose of hip opportunity initially was to create a situation for my son, right? And create a situation for the young people that was going through what I thought at the time, a bad situation in terms of being able to perform and not having enough money.

7:15So, a lot of people in Atlanta, when I first came to town, they was charging these young people to perform. So, in my mind, I'm thinking like a tactician, and I'm like, okay, well, I'ma come down here, I'ma let everybody perform for free because I know these brothers couldn't compete with food with free. That's what we did. But it was more so a, like what you see was going on, but Keenafosso, you know, how brother Tarei, Abraham Tarei is looking at his circumstance, his situation in Africa. I look at it the same way. He kicked all of the French and all of the dignitaries and the imperial people up out of his country. Wow. Well, I look at hip hop and the same capacity. You know, we make the oil, which is, you know, our lyrics, our IP, and then we just give it away. Well, they head oil, they head the minerals and they just give it away. And they made their money if they refine it. So now what brother Tarei, Abraham Tarei,

8:16Abraham is saying, okay, we're going to refine it, and we're going to sell it at a market price, at a wholesale price, before they were selling at raw price. So we sell in hip hop and raw price. I say, it's often, I say, if a brother gets a deal with the record, they're going to give him a 15% royalty and a 50% production deal. So what that means, everything you shoot a video for million dollars, you owe a half a million dollars for that video, you understand what I'm saying? But if you make a million dollars in terms of record sales, then you only get 150,000, because 15% of a million, what, 150, right? They get 850,000. So when you think about that in context, right? You say, okay, well, if that be true, and I say, yeah, I got $50,000 for a $450,000 rate that you drive, you're going to say, him must think, I'm crazy. Because you say it doesn't, the math doesn't add up, but you would get beat twice. Yeah. Not only would you lose the $400,000, $450,000, but you lose another additional,

9:18$400,000, which is 850,000, if you did a record deal. Made it. You could do a bad record deal, but you won't get your car away. You know what I'm saying? For 50,000, but you'll get your life away and your earning potential to create and purchase more cars. You know, for a little bit or nothing. So that was one of the things that we wanted to do. We wanted to say, our culture, like on the jacket, is our culture, our car. So we teach, we teach, we teach, we teach, we teach, we teach about the blockchain, we teach about ASCAP, BMI, C-SAC, tune core, everything that gets under the music business. So our people can refine the music, you know, in the studio and sell it at a more marketable price. And that's why we introducing them to wear three in the blockchain. Because the blockchain allows you to do what they call to write a smart contract. So when you write a smart contract, that allows you to sell your music on the blockchain, say, if you did a platinum record with a record label. And you sort of mean, you're actually going to be 45,000.

10:21But if you sell your music in Singapore or Guam, or the Philippines, or any of the, you know, in Ukraine, wherever, and you sell it through a smart contract to the blockchain, which comes through cryptocurrency, you know what I'm saying? You'll be able to get 50 cents a record, which is, I mean, your record is a half a million dollars. So that's what we're saying the same thing that they're saying to be kind of fossil. You know, and I've been saying this for five years before Brother Tourette got popular on the internet that, hey man, listen, we have to control our destiny. Because if you think about the word, like, I'll show you something else, you know? It's going to be relevant to the conversation that we have in right now. If you look at the, the, well, I'll tell you what, it's going to probably take too long to retreat, but I got to, I got to trademark, right? I bought the trademark. I looked on the trademark.

11:22I looked for the word hip-hop fraternity. It appalled me. I was literally shocked that it was available. But when we understand East Coast versus West Coast, therefore versus bad boy, no limit versus cash money, we understand the divisiveness in the culture, right? And that's why they never anticipated. You know, back in the day, I've been on the computer since 98, you know, you couldn't buy it. No domain names. Everything was purchased, you know? People make you buy your own name. Balls talk 101. If you don't secure your domain name before you put Balls talk out, somebody will buy it and make you buy it from them, that's right? So why is the word hip-hop fraternity available? Because first of all, they never expected us to have a fraternity. When you look at the King Alpha Plan, and you look at the William Lynch papers, you know, you can see what they said. They said 250 years after slavery, the black man, the black woman, still be divided, you know?

12:22So the things that they inculcated in us and that they instituted in 1710, it's still pervasive in 2025. And we're still being affected from my psychological images, changes to slavery as Dr. Naim Akbar likes to say, you know? And he talks about the effects of slavery. So we are still being mentally affected by this mentality. Yeah. So what we said is that we're going to create the hip-hop fraternity because first of all, who control hip-hop? Obviously, the European Sony, the FGM, Columbia, and the rest of them. Universal. Universal. So then you say fraternities, who are the fraternities, the Elks, the Masons? So they can't label it as a black malicious group hip-hop fraternity. Reason why is because they own and they built the brand hip-hop. They can't say fraternity is a black or malicious organization. Why?

13:22Because they all have fraternities. They have Masonic fraternities. They have Eastern stars. So that is the reason why you don't see all this hoop-a-lot behind hip-hop fraternity. Because if you look at any other black organization, they do three D's, they demonize, destroy, and discredit. They did it with Malcolm, they did it with Martin, they did it with Huey, they did it with Elijah Muhammad, they did it with Robert Durali. They always try to discredit our brothers and demonize them and destroy them. So by us having that name, hip-hop fraternity is able for us to create the unity base. That's why we in 37, 38 states, and we have over 100 executives, 38 CEOs, and we have over 20,000 members. Which one? Let me ask you this question now. In your fraternity, I know you have both males and females, but when I think about fraternity, I think about mainly a male organization. Suorities are usually your female organizations. How comes you have both men and women in a fraternity?

14:24Because it's an Afro-centric perspective, right? The things that you're seeing are you're a centric. White men, they're staying white women. You know what I'm saying? That's why you got Susie Beatty, the Liberation Movement. White men have always tried to minimize their white women and keep them with the fork and the spoon and keep them at housewives. We don't follow their traditions. If you go and you study African, they were African Queens. It's a whole movie on African Queens that were, you know, bosses, you know what I'm saying? Our women are bosses. We used to cohabitate all the time, but they don't want us to, because they believe that, you know, they have more power over their women if they're at home and they housewives. You see what I'm saying? And that's why when you look at Donald Trump, I'm going to get this in some good game. Donald Trump, DEI, he cut it out, right? But they didn't understand that they was cutting jobs for mostly white women.

15:25They benefited from DEI, DEI diversity, inclusion. They think it's a black thing. They think welfare is a black thing, but it's more white people on welfare, because we only 13% of the population, white folks is the dominant 70% of the population. It's millions and millions of white people on welfare, but they always point their finger at black folks. When they point their finger at black folks, they got three fingers pointing back at their tail. So you know what I'm saying? This is what they don't have to say. So diversity, inclusion, and all that stuff, you know, that they, that they, they, they, they doing. It really was for white women who benefited from it, because they took the 14th Amendment, which originally was written for the slaves, but, you know, the, the, the, the signatures in the Congress at that time that were pulled back, said, listen, we got to get these people something to survive on. They can't, we just can't kick them out there and to society without giving them some type of civil rights. And that's when the first civil rights bill was written in 1866. I got to ask you something.

16:27When you see Kanye in black, two-cuts, clan hoodies are with swashicles, necklaces on. What does that do for, what does that mean to you? What do you think when you see this? I don't think about nothing, because I understand, I'm a, I'm a baby psychiatrist. I study, I know he's begging for attention. Okay. You know, that's, uh, usually people like that, they, uh, have abandonment issues, right? You know, he feels abandoned, you know what I'm saying? So you have abandonment. Should you do things to get attention? You, you know, you, the largest person in the room, but it really don't have no significant value and no commentary, because it doesn't affect any African-American, uh, situation or our condition. You see what I'm saying? You can put a swashicle on all day. You can do all that stuff. But if you ain't talking about social commentary, if you ain't doing nothing to impact the culture, then what is you doing? You know what I mean? Other than appeasing yourself. That's a self-aggranddassment.

17:27You know, he making itself look good, he getting the attention and that's what he wants. And you know, he always gets something to sell thereafter. So we understand what that is, and that's good game. I respect him for. I'm not, you know, down in, I'm crowning him. You know, that's cool. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's a little hyperbolic. You know, it's a little over the top. So I think, you know, that as brilliant as he is and as smart as he is, I think he can use his time and his money in a more, uh, productive manner. You know, and I think when we do that kind of stuff, what we do, because you know it ain't serious, because if it really is an anti-deformation, people, you know, the people that, that deals with that type of anti-symmentism and stuff like that, they would have killed him. Yeah. But, let me, let me, let me, let me. But, um, some would say that just like how black men always use in the word nigger and stuff like that to show that, you know, you don't have any power over me. We're using it, you know, what I mean? Compared to when he's wearing that, some would say, well, I'm, he's wearing it to show that

18:29you're not, you're not scaring me. You have no power over me wearing this. We're doing the word nigger, me, evening. Right. Okay, so, so when you look at, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna give you, I'm more American, right? Mm-hmm. I'm a part of the hip hop, the number drill at least. So, number drill lead told us that we are not niggas, colors, blacks are Ethiopian, that these names were given to slaves by slaveholders in 1779 and lasted to 1865. He said, there's no search land. No search name is niggas. No search name is colors, no search name is black. He said, black is, it's not even a, a nation. It's not even a nation, it's not even a people. You know, he said, you know, color's not a people. You know, color, if you color this and this pain is staying for him to die, you know. And so, you take that and you say, okay, well, what's the power of a name? Why would you, why is you tripping on a nigger? If, if it's keeping us apart, well, think about Goldman.

19:30Think about Goldman Sachs. Think about Mr. Banks. Think about, you know, Silverman. And you think about the people who own the silver, the gold and the banks. See what I'm saying? And you wonder why they call itself these names. And then you look at the X slaves, the ones who were, you know, extrapolated from slave, what did they name? Johnson Ferguson. I mean that you're somebody's son. You're first son. You're John's son. You're Jack's son. You're John's son. You know, and we don't look at that. So, name means everything. It's a power of a name. So we call ourselves niggers. What we're doing, we call ourselves ignorant. And then it's no, no, no, no, no, no wonder. People say they act in niggerly. I know the name of the word I made up, but they do be act in niggerly. You know, what do, and over a year, you can see that, the, the, the, the, the devastation of that name, what they have done, what it has done to us in terms of how

20:32destructive we are, how we kill each other. You know, how we just can kill with, man, I'm 61 years old. When I, this, I mean, just literally 40 years ago, that was unheard of. You know, I mean, for people to be committing wholesale murder in the capacities they committing today, you know, it's a whole different perspective, you know. So you associate the name calling with killing each other? Yes, absolutely. Everything that you do, let me say you said about your mind, but white folks kill each other too. Not, not, not in the same level. It's not, it's not as near as many white on white crack. You go to any, a Hicktown, and it's going down. I remember you, we just say you will text parts as you feel. It's Texas, man. It's, it's Texas. It's worse than Detroit. Yeah. What, when they do that, how, how, how did we get to this level? Because the record labels and certain white supremacist groups were complicit. Why would they allow music that say,

21:34I'm a shoot your grandma, I'm a house up? Why did they get Wayne so much money? Because he got tattoos on his face. He got red, red, he helped promote the blood organization. Snoop helped promote the crypto organization. Is it, or wondered that they're the biggest artists in the world? No. Because it fits the narrative of the whole thing, the name calling, you know, to put in the music out. This music, this drum music, they ain't putting itself out. Somebody putting it out. It's called Universal. It's called Dev Jam. And what they're doing is they're sitting, they, they're feeding our neighborhoods with field in debatricity. You know what I'm saying, licensiousness. You know, they, they, they, they just destroy our community. And that's why everybody's sliding out. The music is hip, no, hypnotic. If you say, sir, like how many times have you heard a song by Jay-Z or somebody, he, he say, man, I don't feel that. Next thing you know, dig, what's my effort?

22:36Yeah, you know, and because after a while what the programmers do, that's why they call them program directors, they put it in your head. And once it's getting in your head, this, you start believing this, you know. Wow, I, I think going back to Kanye, he did, when he walked out for periods from Morgan's show here a couple of days ago yesterday, it's like again, yeah, he just did it here recently because he didn't know that he had 33 million followers on Twitter. They already didn't, he said he had 32 stuff like that. And they broadcasted and now it goes crazy on the internet. And a lot of times you look at this and you be like, they are putting people, the, them people, certain people in the right position so they can get the right look so they can influence a group of people. You get what I'm saying? You can see it the way that everybody's turns their attention to it on the internet. Everybody shifts every time something happens, they shift, I'm watching the shifts as they go. You know what I mean?

23:36A lot of times you look at the news, the news, it broadcasts loudly the black in the white situation too, here like we didn't see it now. I seen one black kid stab another, a white kid. I see, you know, you see all of these different things and you start to see one, the black kid guy in Ohio yesterday, he, he, his son got killed by the police then he took his car and went ran over a police and you see these things happening. What does that do to our society when you see it at the level that we're at now? Well, you know, it all starts at the top, the man that's called the President of the United States is obviously a white supremacist. You know, you know, when he destroyed D.I, he went and talked to his donors, his concerted donors, he said, yeah, I got rid of D.I. He was like, you know, and like I said, they always associated with African Americans, but it was predominantly white women, Mexicans, midgets, and hunchbacks.

24:38You know what I mean, but they ain't gonna tell you that. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, that's just the narrative because it's easy. See, see, see, the way they're taught. See, all my white brothers and sisters, that's in America, that's not rich. Sorry, y'all don't count. But, but the 1% would tell white people that ay, y'all are superior. That it's in your music, it's in your dollar bills, and everything you do is in your curriculum. They'll tell you in every aspect, the academia, they make books and literature, and they do different stuff that compliments white supremacy. So, a lot of white people that's poor are empowered by their white skin. They feel like I'm white, white power, but they don't realize that the enemy is the 1% and he gets all of us.

25:40Because when Donald Trump laid off those people, it was predominantly white people too. Wow, wow. You know what I'm saying? It's predominantly white women. So, a lot of people don't look at that. And the white people, so a lot of them have bias remorse. Like, man, we don't know, we should never vote it for this guy. You know, he got these tariffs. These tariffs ain't nothing but attacks. So, if you buy a car in China for 15,000, it comes to America, 100% attack me. It's gonna be 30,000. 30,000, meaning that's 15,000. You and Mr. Maker ain't gonna be to spend on something like household goods or mortgages or car notes or whatever. So, you know, but they tell you it's for the good of America. And you still got to conclude that out of the 13% of African-Americans in this country, a great significant portion of those are children, old folks and disability. So, it's a small, my new microscopic piece of people

26:44that represents that. So, all this stuff is being done is done to white people. But because they white and he's white, they feel like that's our guy, you know? And that's the irony and that's the trouble the economy and problem within our society. It's that white folks don't wanna understand that we all in the same boat. We all catch and hail. The Democrats and the Republicans, all of them are in this array. Ain't neither one of them doing the right thing. We got a democracy, but neither one of them, they can't even pass a bill, you know? And, you know, when Donald Trump made his cabinet, named one poor white person in his cabinet, all billionaires and millionaires. So, that's some social media guys that were sending behind him too. I seen that when he got a link. Because they have chat, Facebook, Elon Musk.

27:44Because they Mark Zuckerberg. Because the bricks, which is China, Brazil, Russia, South Africa and India, right? What they're doing is they creating a national decentralized currency, meaning that it's not controlled by banks or institutions or business. So, what that means is that that currency is gonna be universal. They're not gonna depend on the fiat no more. You see what I'm saying? So, America is just catching up, you know? China, if you go to China, you can walk in the store. There's no person in that store. All you do is they take your facial recognition, you can take a cake and they have no exactly how to get to your credit card. So, technology and China is so advanced. And other countries are so advanced when they come to America that we just catching up. Wow. I'm saying so now they wanna get with Mark Zuckerberg. They wanna get with Elon Musk.

28:45And you see what happened with Elon Musk. He just lost a trillion dollars overnight because of white supremacy. You see, though the little Hitler hand up. And that's why America would never be successful. Listen, white man, rich white man. In particular, you are never going to win as long as you have white supremacy. China is destroying us because China do not go to Africa and talk to them like little boys. They don't go to India and talk to them like little boys. They got the built initiative. China is all over Africa. They gave IACON, all those solo panels. Now you got lighting all throughout Africa. You got roles and economy. And Africa have 30% of the world's mineral in America because of your white supremacy and your white mentality, your racism, you're losing. And you don't wanna admit it. But the dollar is for the big de-dollar eyes. It's for the big deal. Nothing. I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna move over to... I gotta ask you about PMC every time

29:46because I like to keep his name alive. Right. And just, what are you... When you... How is it being since PMC gone when you think about PMC? What's the thing that you missed the most about PMC? Well, you know, it was like... It was like a booster, right? It was like somebody being in pocket and being rich or being your friend at the same time. Now I told you about the $3 million deal, right? And he gave me a million dollars if we were to materialize. And he was gonna play me. You know, that's on the end of that. I'm not making this up. Correct, correct. He was capped, but I'm not capping. I know a lot of people talk about PMC, but he said, I wanna play Peppin' Can. We had a five movies. He said, one of the movies I'm gonna play Peppin' Can. So, you know, that kind of realness doesn't exist anymore for people could be selfish.

30:48And they can say, yeah, I'm gonna take all this part of myself. You know, I ain't giving Kim nothing, man. Hey, man, I got this deal. I'm just gonna run with the deal. You know, versus giving me the money, Rubin, which is his manager, he signed the deal with the woof. But they made Rubin call me and Dee from Nashville. He made us sign the contract as well. That just, that realness, man, and just like, man, come and get me from the airport and just ride, man, just up and down, going to port after, man. You know, and we just talking and kicking and then, you know, he just popping and then, you know, I mean, you know, man, just a good dude, man. I remember one time this real talk, he I was in Texas, I was in the hotel. But I knew he stayed on West Timer, so I was staying close to his hotel. You know what I mean, to his condo. So he's like, man, you ain't got to stay in the dam with the man gave me the keys. You know, me and Paper Chase, man, he rest in peace too. And say, man, y'all brothers, you know what I'm saying? Y'all chill over here, you know.

31:50And I mean, it was just like, now, in my mind, I'm pivoting came up, so this is PMC. This is like, to me, this would be my JZ, you know what I mean? Dude is just, you know, and then I, you know, I kind of figured it out, you know, after he died, he's like, you know, when he was in jail, man, I was the only one, you know, sending pictures. I don't know if there's some other people doing stuff on, but that's what he told me. He said, then nobody comes to him, you know, and I went to see him and I sent some pictures and stuff like that. And he wasn't the PMC that y'all know. He was the old PMC, the pocket full of stones that fell off and started using drugs and start whatever, you know, he had gone on at that time and people had rolled, written them off. But you know, he know that my relationship and anybody that messed with me, you know, it was never based on him being PMC. For none of that, it was based on us just kicking it. You know, we was just kicking it, you know, like I remember when he went, he got in the trouble, I was right there, you know, he had like,

32:52I think a bag or something on him. He's like, man, I get really shit, you know. And I'm serious, man, real tough. And you know, you know, he, man, I was there. You know, but he was smooth, you know, he's the key man, just going on. Yeah, you know, he didn't want me to get caught up with him, man, you know, I'm going to put, I went, I went at the actual crime scene and about that, you know, you know, you know what happened, right? Yeah, I just want to ask y'all, so like when you look at PMC's music and stuff, what's the, what's one of your favorite songs? No, that's what I said, it started off with. So, so the music was so, anybody to ride with me, you know, my man right here, Boa, tell you, when you ride with me, I'm playing old school through the heart of the whole time. So what PMC was unique at, he would go and get old school music, the funk of deluxe, he would get fly, slide a family stone, and he'd be playing the music and he'd make a beat to the music, and he'd make, he'd make some melody to the rap,

33:54and he'd put that with it. A lot of people don't know, a lot of those Masterpiece songs that singing, that was PMC. Oh, for sure. You know, PMC, PMC can sing, he can rap, and he was very into old school music. So he used a lot of samples, you know, and he was really good at that. And so, you know, being in the studio with him was like, he was like the boss, Bambiabee there, Jazzy Fayabee there, we'd be there with all of them, and Pimp'd be like, and we don't do that motherfucker like that, Jazzy. And Bambiabee, I mean, I actually watched him just pretty much navigate, he was like a conductor, he conducted the whole thing, and it's mind-be-concey flowing with music, you know, he was a musicologist, you know, I was saying he really loved music, and he really loved soul music. Yeah. So if you listen to a lot of stuff, it got a lot of soul in it, you know, and can't no rapper to this day even get close to what he was doing. When you think about it, I had Mr. Leon here,

34:55Mr. Lisa, he was the first one he ever seen, put a screwdriver track to a fast track. You see what I'm saying, that diamonds up against that wood, and you put DJ screws screw part on a regular track, and basically you hear it, you know, what I mean, going back and forth. And that was something that I didn't think about when I used to be, when I first started off interviewing people, and then when I knew it, but I never said it, because I wasn't in there, but Mr. Lisa, that was the first person he ever seen do that. Amen, the man was so smooth, right? I did five, maybe seven albums with him, right? One was a post-humans album, one was a UGK album, then five of his albums, right? So we're being a studio, and you know me, yeah. I'm talking, I'm doing my stuff, and I've like, Pimp, don't put that there, I mean to say it like that. And if you listen to the last UGK, I said,

35:55now y'all go ahead and do what y'all wanna do with that. That's what I said, I was telling them to edit it, right? But he did, I was kinda upset, I was like, man, come on. It sound good though. But when he told me, he said, can't man, one thing about it, he said, man, when you talk, it's all freestyle. He said, if I do anything to it, it's gonna take away what it is. He said, you're not a rapper. You know what I'm saying? That's what he told me, he said, you're not a rapper. So he was basically, he knew something about me that I didn't know, he knew that this was me. Basically, he was like, nigga, this is who he is. I can't, if I take one fraction out of it, it ain't true. In every album that he did, he always put my shit out wrong. But his post-summonism album, the one show, Shinari did, you know, the last time I did Delph, then that album was, that was edited. So you could listen to all the albums, and I'm just rambling and babbling it, and she'd talk and mess.

36:56And it came out just how I kicked it. That was the only one that did it. And he just felt that, you know, he knew, while I was saying he was so musically inclined, he knew what would resonate. You know, like he can put, you know, I remember we was in Beverly Hills Hotel, he's seeing White Club. Oh man, I got to get White Club on the album, right? You know, in a White Club, you know, I guess they talked about it, I don't know if it ever materialized, but he was trying to get him on the album because he had seen something that he can put together right there and there. Wow. And he did the album, the UGK album, the same studio that Michael Jackson courted down because he wanted to have, you know, that feeling of Michael Jackson in the room. Wow. What was this thing like that? What was this thing with Tupac, man? Did he think? Cause a lot of people say he, that was one of the main reasons he didn't rock with Jay and all that. What was this thing with Tupac? Did you ever talk to him about Tupac? Me and him never talked about Tupac. I didn't know that he liked it Tupac like that.

37:57So when I heard that, I was like, that's a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? Niggas, you, it's actually crazy again, Jay-Z, big pimping thing. And all of the record, if you went to, well, I went to the funeral, right? All of the record, they love the main central topic of the funeral. Man, why did Pimsy want to do the big pimping album? He didn't want to do it. He made him get my car, he made him get my savings. He was just, he was doing, he was taking him to the limit on that, you know, I have a lot of things that he said about Jay-Z, but the reason why I won't say them because he's dead, but I can just say this, Pimsy had a perspective that the South had a sound and that the South was winning with that sound and certain people in certain geographical areas wanted to steal that sound. And he was, he was opposed to that. He thought that certain people were trying to steal the UGK sound and the country rap tunes, which he would he call.

39:00And I heard a lot, you know, Jay-Z, Fave, me, Jay-Z, Fave, Michael McGroy, and Paper Chase was in the room and he had some very, very explosive things to say about certain individuals. And, you know, I'm tripping, right? Because you gotta remember, the people he talking about, I'm fans of. So I'm like, what? You know what I'm saying, really? You know what I mean? But you know, I'm just a shot and Paper Chase is just a shot. You know, Jay-Z, Fave, you know, he's just like going along with the move with whatever he was saying. And Maroy had recorded some of it. And Pimsy said, hey, Maroy, don't you, don't you, don't you put that shit out, Mary? Don't you put that shit out? And, you know, so I bet you, and I ain't this ain't no Pimsy sex tape. But I bet you, Maroy, he may rest in peace, had that footage of Pimsy saying some of the biggest rappers that you could imagine. This, and Jay-Z thinking back this up, I know he's still living. And I'm saying, he, he know what I'm talking about.

40:01He know who Pimsy didn't like. And some people, we don't know, but we, no, we, you know, I know, but nobody knows. I'm saying, the world know them. They wanted something the biggest rappers in the world. You know, and he even went on the radio and talked bad about a lot of rappers too. He didn't like, I can say that because he said, he didn't like lots of Simmons. When you issue with Jesus dope prices, that's how he didn't say that. I don't have a issue with Jesus. Yeah, he said the price was $1,000,000. No, I'm telling you. But I'm telling you what that stem from, is that GZ people send an invoice over to Pimsy. And that invoice, I think it was like 60 bands. And it was saying, and Pimsy had just did a song called Dickies' A Suck. So, you know, they were swapping, you know, that's how they get in trouble. You know, you swap music and you swap, you know, that's how they were doing. That's how the Niggas was able to, you know, put out platinum records, you know, short and E-40s that they would, they would swipe it out. You know, because, you know, back then, you know, to get somebody on the song was very expensive. It definitely was. Yeah, definitely was. So, if you get somebody for free, that was a blessing.

41:03You see, your bond B, he opened up another trio burger. I was proud to see that, you know what I mean? And he, man, and he always, you know, he wrapped a Pimsy at these places. You know, when, you know, when you go in there, you sit a picture of him and all that stuff, man. When Pimsy and Jill, me and Bond rocked like crazy. Okay. He went to three or four of my birthday parties and my walkie, I did. I was on the bumpy island. I don't know if you remember that. The one that Jay Prince put out was on that album. Yes, I always forget to say that, but I'm glad I'm saying. But I was on that album and we would, you know, we would rock out, you know what I'm saying? We would kick it, you know what I'm saying? You know, we had some wild shit going on, but I can't talk about that. But, you know what I mean, I just had to make sure he was always happy. You know, I was still young and still doing crazy shit. So, you know, you know, he was my man, you know, I don't think he was married at the time. So it was before his marriage. But, you know, he'll tell you, man. He bummed, tell you, man. When I, when I said I was back in the day, I was.

42:05Wow. He'll tell you. Just call him, nigga's man, a cash money. I'll just tell you, man, I was really in the game. You know what I'm saying? I had something to bet. It's my fuck is on the planet. I mean, actually, it's the day they, well, let me just expound on this. Today, I think they did not let in dirt have a bun again. And I thought that was, you know, they was looking forward to that fluid. And they thought they was going to be able to get him, get him, you know, to at least get a bun and be able to get him out of there. Do you think that what is the reason for holding somebody like him, they holding a lot of them. Not just him, it's a few people I've seen them. They won't let him out. Like, like, do you, is it be due to the crime? Who? Nelly. What's the name? R.L. Nelly or something? The little dude called the Mellie. Mellie, yeah. So what it is, bro, it's white supremacy. You know, although they may or may not elazzy commit a crime, it's more of a bigger narrative, right?

43:08And we put our foot in our mouth, you know what I'm saying? We kind of are contributors to all this stuff. They have a serious problem with young brothers like Durk, that's multi-millionaires, living in these mansions, you know, smoking weed, kicking it, you know, drags, you know, doing everything they want to do. You know what I'm saying? And they have regular jobs, 50, 60,000 dollars a year. I mean, to a racist district attorney or to a racist judge, you know, they give them power. Now, the Constitution says that you have a right to do process and you're innocent until found guilty and that everybody can be granted a bond, you know? But because, you know, Durk and Kales and Ditty and all other brothers

44:10and incarcerated as celebrities, you know, because they represent a certain segment of our community. It's fashionable or it's beneficial to keep their foot on their neck. Not for the purpose of being harsh on them or being harsh on the black community. It's more, it's more a referendum on the black community than it is on per se a person, you know? They pick a jury trial this week for just the fourth day of the day. They narrowed it down to 45 people. They, I think they got their toy oven and six they're going to have for the trial. They're about to get this trial on the way started next week. They think they're estimated to last a few months. How do you see Ditty coming out in a few months after this whole smoke settles? One woman, they did show them pictures of Michael B. Jordan. They showed them pictures of a few other actors that just trying to see, they're picking this jury. You know, I've been through that where they're trying to figure out

45:12who's going to say what or is it going to be a bias in this situation? Can justice really be served in this situation when it comes to Ditty? I'm almost confident that the district turning on Fumble, you know? Because first of all, the charges are felonious. Yeah, I don't even know what I'm saying. And the erroneous because Ditty is not a pimp. You cannot charge a man that's not a pimp with sex trafficking charges. Every year people have bachelor's party. They order sex workers. You know, you can't be biased. And there's going to be somebody in that jury, you know, that can see, you know, that this is a bias type thing. And because when you operate out of that type of mentality in the case we receive when young third, the district attorney, you know, in the case of O.J. Simpson, they generally fumble. Yeah, this case is too big for the district attorney to be morally and to have a moral compass, right?

46:16They're going to do some crazy stuff. They're going to make up some lies and they just run away. They throwing anything at the wall. See, it's going to stick. Now what's going to happen is the people that's the jury, they're going to have a feel that they have a duty, you know, to give him a fair shot. And we all know if we go based on what we know as, you know, from people, you know, that you cannot give puffy or you never should have gave our Kelly the charges you gave them because they, it does, you know, the person don't fit to cry. You know, when you start talking about baby oil, come on now. Yeah. And I'm saying, when you start talking about a man, that's a multi billionaire sex trafficking, you know, and you know how women are. Yeah, most women are groupies. There's some women that would have sex with that man for a happy meal. And you got to take all this into account. But because the New York district allow lawsuits

47:20lawsuits to kick in for a year or to be retroactive, that's when Casey came in and she was the first one. Now what they did, they took their Casey case and it's okay. Now that we have definitions, I mean, depositions and we have statements on the old, you know, old statements where they can't, you know, they, you know, they can't, you know, on the oath, you know, I'm saying they, they was able to extrapolate that information and power together some stuff, right? You know, and people are going to lie because it's money involved. Wow. I want to ask you also, stand on that subject about Sheldon Sharp. Sheldon Sharp has a young girl that was on only fans. And she basically, Gabby, she's basically have him on recorder. He, you know, some choking and some talk going on. But as she's dealing with him, another lady pops up,

48:22another lady from old man and she looked, didn't look the part, but then when you look at the old pictures, you know, she was a, she, you know, she's, she's deteriorating fast is what I'm saying. She don't look like somebody Sheldon Sharp would have even been dealing with. Um, but they're coming out to what works. Me and you spoke about this when, when it was coming at Jay and Busby, Busby is the one who conveyed this, Tony Busby. Like, what do you see? Is this a money grab? Is this a witch hunt? Well, is this, is this justice being served? Uh, Jay Z had a song, you know, he said you still, oh, Jay, he's still a nigger. So one thing all of our brothers in the media, in the brothers that successful got to understand is that you will always a target. But now you're going to be targeting more. So because it's a monetary value, it's like you monetize in your YouTube's, you know, these women are monetizing their Gucci now.

49:24You know, I'm saying, it's, you know, I mean, I'm for to get paid, you know, and they are live, they're, uh, make up stuff. They do anything to get paid. So I think it's more an accountability on, on the part of our leadership. You know, we have to just understand that business as usual is not business. We have to move a little bit more, um, methodical, you know, and Shannon Sharp, you know, 30, 40 years ago, he probably did that regularly. You know, I mean, that's really nothing. You know, I mean, man, I've been with multiple women. And, and every time, you know, we have sex, they be on me to choke. A lot of women like that. I don't know. You might know something like that, but into that, but after seeing that in today's day and age, you, you have to be scared to even say that on the phone. Or out where somebody can record you. That's what I'm saying times have changed. You know, I remember, you know, back in the day, you had sex with one of me. She wants you to choke her and call her all kind of names and stuff.

50:24Travel, yes, lapper. Now you can get sued for that and you get life. It's just me. I'm talking about basically she had recorded it. It's like she said it up. She had a record and she said, it's something. Somebody coherced her into doing all of this because she had a, she had a receipts after she left. So you got to think about it. Man, people got receipts. My boy Smoker Robinson. I just talked about him yesterday. These women said it was four different women, four different women that worked for him, talked about the blue room. He had a blue room and then they knew what the cameras went at. These women worked out for years. So they said the blue room, the garage and the laundry room was why the cameras wasn't that. And they said, that's why he would hit them at. And they also pulled the wife into it and said she knew what was going on. And I was like, man, a black woman doing this. Other man is doing all of it. I don't know about that. Man, black men, it's an attack on you.

51:27You're doing really well. White women love y'all Asian women love y'all y'all doing really well. Just be careful, man, because these folks, man, they have a job and they job is to destroy the, you know, Kowansaka, Jufu, talk about the conspiracy to destroy young black men. Now it's a conspiracy to destroy all black men, you know what I'm saying? So y'all got to just really be attentive and know that we are on the attack. It's a war, you know, it's a war for supremacy. And black men are doing really well in the love of supremacy. You know, white women go crazy over Kanye. They go crazy over J.J. They go crazy over all these black celebrities and stuff like that. And white people racist white people can't stand that, you know? And you can see how the Congress has moved. Why having the Congress did anything to halt the character and the behavior of President Donald D Trump? You would think somebody would be like, no, man, chill.

52:29You know, no, because they all complicit and they lack what he doing. You know, all of them want to go back conservative to me to conserve. Never forget that. And somebody said they're conservative. They want to go back to the old ways, you know, and they want to conserve the Confederate. You see what I'm saying? And these are buzz words that you got to be aware of. And it's just now, you know, it's more easier because Marlou de King and Rosa Parski, she's out of white folks back in the day. When Rosa Parski sitting in the back of that bus and they and the Birmingham bus company went down, they lost millions, millions of dollars. And this is a capital, it's two isms in America. It's capitalism and racism. You know, if you attack, you know, racism is something that they use as a weapon. But if you attack capitalism, racism immediately evaporate. And that's why we have integration. Integration has nothing to do with black equality.

53:30It had a lot to do with white folks, financiality. You know what I'm saying? It was financially rewarding because we stopped going to all the black hotels. We stopped going to all the black businesses. And we thought the white folks, those were better than ours. And we started shopping with white people and all the black communities died. Well, I just went off on my boy. Wallow a little bit the other day when he went down through their own black business on us being a black business owner for the last 20 years. It threw me off when I heard him and they cut a little bit out of it. I didn't get to hear the whole thing, but Wallow was like, you know, the black people try to get over on, you know, won't want to get black business on a man's shop with me cause I'm black and all that. And then my mom, I'm like, bro, whether you black, whether you, whatever color, black people broke, man, when they come down to our white constituencies in America. Well, we know well, when I, when, when it looks, when you look at Elon Musk, or if you look, wait a minute, let me say this, when you look at Elon Musk,

54:32or if you look at Jeff Bezos, and you look at Robert Smith, and you look at David Stewart, and Oprah, they can throw them little old billions together. It will not even amount to anything close. You understand? Well, it's a whole different level of finance. And when you talk about white, uh, business, let me keep entrepreneurs. Let me give you a solution to that. Go ahead. The reason why it's because for 250 years, the black man was a slave. I get that. But listen, listen. So the white man, irrespective to what you think of what they say, have a 250 year job. And I agree with that black man. I agree with that 100%. But that, that, that, that's why I'm not, that's exactly why I say, while I shouldn't even be speaking on the way to want to kick them while they down, but this is not going to hurt the helpful. Hey, this is the most important thing you got to hear, but they, they have a mask. They have acquired 85% of the property in this country. I agree. And it's been, it has been air and heritage down.

55:32I agree. So with that being said, we look at those skyscrapers and all these, uh, edifices around the cities and stuff like that. That's air property. So that property has been passed down from generation to generation. So your children only gets money if you the first one to go to college, you the first one to open a business. So that started your first generation, that's, that's, that's, that's, I agree 100%. So, but from a consumer perspective, black folks got a GDP of a trillion dollars annually. We spent a trillion dollars, but the problem with that is we spend 98% of our money with Europeans and we spend 2% with the black business. So what is the problem? What's the, what's the, what's the problem that can't, that, that, that, that's, that's what they can do. Okay, we hear the problem. When you go out to play and don't plan on or anywhere, you know, Europeans love it and you said, how did they get these big houses? Well, they got it off 100% of their money and 98% that's exactly right. I agree with that 100%.

56:33Hold on, hold on, we're going to get, you, you brought it up. We got to go there. So think about the Arabs, right? The Arabs have most of our gas station grocery stores, right? When that money comes from the trap house or from general models and it goes into the Arab store, you know where it go? It leads to community. That's right. When she goes to the nail shop, you know, that money go, it leads to community. You're not saying my question all the way when, when, when, when somebody go to a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Indian motel, the money leads to community. They don't, that's why you don't see back then when you hear Frank Lucas and stuff, you know, you used to see Turkey give away. You don't, you ain't gonna never see that no more. And, and, and, and another big problem. It's not in Dallas yet, but another big problem. Most of our cities are casinos. So what casinos doing again, all the drug money, and all that stuff. So these drug dealers and these people, they had not able to, to, to, to cycle that money back into that community. And that's what's causing the problem. And that's why, you know, we say, well, man, uh, uh, uh, uh, we can do this.

57:36We do this. Well, look at your highways, go, go, go over there and old cliff. You're going to see 35, 20, 30 going over what all the hoods. So when these people can go bypass the hood, that means that those black businesses that used to be there that are not dilapidated buildings, they can't be refurbished because no one is buying their gas, somebody buying their food because they're going and they getting off at the nearest exit and they know when they bought the right gas, because all cars got, you got 30 miles before you get to a white neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? And, and with niggas, we use them, same highways to go what over and pass to the malls. But, but now let's listen, listen, we go to the malls. We go to, to, to all these malls and we bypassed those same black businesses. And that's why we, but should we, should we support each other? That's what Wala was saying. He was saying, you know, he bought heels from Lamborghini.

58:38He not, you know, cause you a black business that don't merit you getting black dollar, you know, getting your money to stay. He not going there because he, he said black's not giving a good service in the situation where he was speaking to these group of people. So I had an issue with that and I, and I would like to talk to him. He's absolutely, he's absolutely wrong. Here's another, here's another, a disposition, right? Think about it like this. When you go to Chinatown, right? Right. In Chinatown LA, you know how many banks they got in China? 32 banks. You know how many black banks in the whole United States? There's black bank, maybe 15. So what happens is all of those Chinese people, they bank with Chinese banks. So those banks know their payment history, they know their ability to pay, they bills on time and so on and so forth. So when they bring their kin folks over from China and they say, we needed to open up a Taco Bell.

59:39We need to open up a nail shop, don't banks loan them that money. And that's what the money bouncing back into your community. And that's, and you already know what's going over to Jews. No, no, you know, I agree, man. Like I said, I don't like a wallow. I just didn't like that, what that clip that they put out. But he definitely, he got his, you know, he getting his, getting his, whatever. And I get it, but our blacks need to do something, you know, to try to unify. And I'm not, I'm never going to give up on that and try to come up with ways to help each other to keep the money. Like you said, circulating in our, in our community is a little bit longer because they are, they are, there are separate communities that our people are in centralized locations in a lot of ways. And we got to find a way to uplift one another. Like we used to back in the days with them brother walk by brother. He said, what's up brother? What's up, man? Are they a throw up the fence? You know what I mean? It was a different, it was a different respect because of the way that we had been treated. And there was a, there was a, a little bit more unity back then to me

1:00:40because of coming out of the situation. I want to see that unity come back, man. You know, it's coming back. That's what we're doing at the hip-hop fraternity, right? We started running for people. He never got 20,000 people. Come on now. So, you know, with it takes, you know, Jeff Bezos started from zero and he added up into a hundred Jack Mar or zero to a hundred. Every company started from zero to a hundred. But the way we do that is through repetition. We got to constantly and call K and beat it in the head. So, I have meetings every by weekly. I tell all my executives and my leaders, they say, man, you know, this is what we got. This is what we got to do. This is how you do that. I said, we got to practice what I call a greetings team. You know, you got to have courtesy. You got to over deliver to your consumer. You know, you got to, you know, show some dignity, some respect, have some morality. And you got to teach people this because some people, I devoid of these things, right? So, you know, as long as you keep doing it and we do it over a succession period of time, eventually, they're going to get it. Just like we got the Willie Lynch and we got the King Afro plan.

1:01:43And we eventually start hating and dividing and conquering ourselves. Well, you know, a house of gifts itself cannot stand. So, once we start preaching that and we start, you know, see, hip hop is the best thing because see, I'm not going to go through certain mosques. I'm not going to go to certain temples, you know, I'm not going to go to certain churches. They're not going to go mess with fairy cars. Some people don't go mess with a TDJ because they got biases, right? But the, again, TD nation of Islam members and the potter house will come mess with hip hop. That's real. That's real. So, that's why we chose hip hop. And it's new to, we got Chris Bluzz, Bicycles, GDs. We got Karen, you know, you know, you met my man, James, or iced tea house. He's a politician. He's a sitting, he's a city politician. He's the CEO of the company. James C.B. Gray, my girl can trees. She then did acquisitions and mergers for being all the companies. You know what I'm saying? And then we got some low level hood looms that's a part of our organization as well.

1:02:44You know, and so, you know, that's what it's going to take. You know, it's going to take all of us as a collective coming together. And everybody's just like, you know, E, you know, you wearing that jacket, you know, that's a form of unity. You know what I'm saying? He's all kin. He rock who he can. I love her E. For sure. You know what I'm saying? I was there. Oh yeah. So, so let's all share E's podcasts. You know, let's all share Keynes podcast. Let's share Mr. Makers podcast. Let's share Ronnie Boe podcast. Let's use that. And then that's where the power come in at. Unity. I'm going to ask you one last question before I let you go. So, um, Shedore Sanders. And what happened with Dion and that draft pick that we had never seen this before. What did you think about it when they did what they did to show their strength? What did you think about it? The keyword Dr. Francis Quest Wilson. And Dr. Lamar, I talked about this in the 70s. White supremacy, bro. It all boils down to white supremacy.

1:03:44What organization of integrity were take one of the greatest quarterbacks in college history. And make them 144th defamed him. Well, what that goal to show you that your system is rigged. Wow. See what I'm saying? So, so what we need to do goes back to hip-hop fraternity. I'm going to go back to empire self-empowerment. We need to form our own lead. Since it's mostly black people in the lead. We need to form our own lead. And people say, well, that ain't going to never happen. Well, it might not be as profitable. But over a period of time, we will get there. And don't sell out. Which is hard for brothers not to do. Because they said that Dion and Sanders, he went from Jackson State to Colorado. And they said that some people deemed that as a sell out. So money, unfortunately, is the rule of all evil. But at the same time, we can still encourage our young men

1:04:46and our young women to do nothing else. It's to stick together and to have their own. You got to have your own. Somebody said, God bless the child to get their own. That's it. Man, thank you so much, man, for coming on the show, man. How can people get a whole day if they trying to reach out for hip-hop fraternity? Well, you're going to hhfmedia.com. You go check out magazine hhfmedia.com. You can reach to be a real pimp, kid, underscore on Instagram. And the same on Snapchat, on Facebook. It's kid and ivy slash pimp and kid. And if you're all interested in some advertisement, go to the hhfmed and my numbers at the bottom. And we will advertise for child. And then also I want to shout out to the music conference we got coming up instead of Tim and Milwaukee. So we're going to be kind of covering some of the things. We're going to get some of the most influential people.

1:05:46I would like to invite Trinia right to come and sit on the panel and talk about podcasts. Okay. Here we got outlet, you know, outlet. That's the app company. We work with them. And it's black on. So he don't like to say black on. Well, let me ask you this, before you get off me and the books, your books that you have, but they still available on Amazon.com. Yeah, you go to audioboad.com, type in my name, Pepe Ken. Or you go to Amazon, you go to books for me. You can actually go to any Barnes and Overs that should be a book or two in there. You know, so yeah, we definitely still rocking the books. You know, and I'm for the star, no, no, no, no, Jav. I'm for the star doing Ross, the Ross gave me the idea. Freeway. Yeah. I'm going to start ordering my books, and I'm going to start doing hosting parties and doing autographs, signs. That's right. And I'm saying because everybody be wanting to do that. I see that work really well. I'm going to tell you some people love autographs sign. I was with iced tea the other night that he couldn't leave.

1:06:47He was signing so much stuff. They brought everything for this man, the sign. What the hell was that? Uh, at UTA. UTA, y'all see, you know, that's all into here. Yeah, he come when he got here, man. That's you. Thanks to you, hookin' me up and linkin' me with ice, man. I never forget that I always said, I tell him. And, uh, be court, man. Both of y'all, man, just the way we, man. Ice got a movie coming up. Y'all cold, man. All right, we got it. What's the name of the movie? It's the making of the autobiography. So the book we did, we, uh, man, so cold. I can, I can, I'm sending you the trailer when we go. Okay. Get it out. I mean, you might as well show it to the people. Okay. Yeah, show it to him. Yeah, send it to him. Yeah, send it to you when we get out. So, uh, we, you know, ice man, he's just like. He, he, he's Pepsi on the whole nother level. You know, he like. Ice, I need you to do this. Bam. And I need, uh, to do an interview with Boss Talk. Bam. Ice, I need, I need to do a movie. Bam, he never denied me, but he ain't the type of person

1:07:47that's gonna call you every five minutes. And want to kick it and pop and finger pop the window shot, right? But if you accidentally do something, he said something. You was there to help him. He said, he said, Ken, I don't necessarily give nobody any money. He said, but if you call me for some money, I'm gonna give it to you. You know, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, if somebody talked about me and I don't, they don't like me, I like them. He said, I don't have no problem with that. He said, but if I heard the two says something bad about me, he said, we really hurt my heart. Yeah. You know, and that's the kind of relationship we got, you know, man. If I showed up in New York last time I was in New York, I was with them. We had about 30 HHF members. I don't know if you see them. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. He fed everybody. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, he spent like maybe 5,000 for food. You know, and you know, it was good look for me because you know, my, my members was like, man, I see really down with us, and that kind of, that kind of quilt every day. Yeah. You know, he said that to my man, Cash. You know, he died, right?

1:08:48All right. Cash. The one with the beer and he's coming all the time. The light skin on. The light skin. He died. RIP. He had a heart attack. He had a heart attack. How was he? He's young. He's 38 years old. So I set out to his mama too. Dang. I'm sorry. I set out to hold East St. Louis, man. Because Cash was my first partner member. He sure was. He was always saying it happened about two weeks ago. Matter of fact, I know how I just left the funeral. So I had to speak at the funeral and they didn't know that Cash wanted to go to the White House. So right, you know, it was two things he wanted to do. He wanted to go to the White House. He wanted to get on the breakfast club. Wow. Now I couldn't get him on the breakfast club because the breakfast club limited my guess. Yeah. So I couldn't get him on that. You know, he understood that. But he wanted to go to the White House. And I said, man, listen, man, Cash. I'm not going to the White House. He said, why are we going to the White House? Oh, I said, because I ain't going to pass the background. I said, you know what I need? I said, we got any warm child support.

1:09:50Man, I ain't going to put us in that basement. We're going to be looking at us every day, man. You know what I'm saying? And we take a target practice. Yeah. So every time we leave, man, he said, then Cash started about it. He said, you right, uh, we might not pass the background check. I was just here, man. He said, Pippa Keenan, the White House. Oh, no, man. R-P, man. I didn't mean to say that, King Moore. And, uh, that's the eight year boy, uh, to the White House. And we sent James CB Gray and, uh, Ms. Calcaberry. So we did send some delegates to the White House. But I didn't want to go in. And, you know, sometimes, you know, you just got to be diplomatic, man. You got to understand, you know, at all times, I acknowledge, you know, who I am. Yeah. You know, and I know that some people, my name tastes like cash. Shit, they'm off. You know what I'm saying? And then some people love me because here too, I get a lot of love. Oh, you get a lot of love. But a lot of people that misinterpret who I am. I know. My favorite saying is that Malcolm was a Pimp.

1:10:53Malcolm was an ex-convict. He was a burglar. That's right. He changed his life. Why Pippa Keenan can't change anything? I was like, did. And have been. And I asked him with you. Period. So thank you for coming on the show. Oh, my God, Pippa Keenan. It's been another great segment. Amen. Boss talk 101. What a boss is told. And we out.