Phillies broadcaster Tom McCarthy joins FT + Marlins still kicking

0:00So, like, five age arriving or so, at least 70% have a phone. I'm Dr. Joy, and this is Therapy for Black Girls. We spend our surviving middle school run getting into what's happening inside your kids' brain, the group chat, and their friendships, and what you can do about it. Your child is not doing this on purpose. That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists who study this for living. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHot Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Self-care September is your reminder to slow down, check in with yourself, get off your phone, and maybe ask why am I like this? I'm Gemma Spek, host of the Psychology of your 20s podcast, and this month we're helping you make sense of the person that you are becoming from setting boundaries and navigating friendships, to understanding anxiety, confidence, relationships, and attachment. Sometimes our biggest decisions, without us even realizing it, aren't driven by what we truly want, but by what will prevent us from feeling lonely or being alone.

1:04Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering the ride on his motor cycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, we're back and we're getting close to bringing on our next guest. I'm going to actually let Eric Krats do a proper introduction for him. So tell us a little bit about the Philly's play by the play broadcaster, Mr. Krats, before we bring him in. I mean, if there was such a thing as a

2:09heavy silk blanket, that is Tom McCarthy's voice in a nutshell. Like a heavy silk blanket that you're just like, I'm going to go take a nap and just listen to Tom McCarthy speak just whatever's going on the Philly's. They're not doing well. Same voice. Same. He's been doing it for a long time, and he's actually even a better person than he is an announcer. And unfortunately, he actually did a Nats game the other day and it hurt one of my son's feelings because I was what he's like, I saw a Nats highlight. And Tom McCarthy was doing a Nats game. He's like, what's the deal with that? T-Mac? Is he bailing out on us? But he's a national game, son. That's called a national game, but he does plenty of that too. He does the national nationals game. But I'm telling you Tom McCarthy, Tom McCarthy, the voice of the Philly's, is a legend in this area. And when people meet him, they like him more than they did before they met him. Well, we're going to ask him about his buddy

3:13that he sits with in the booth many nights. Here he is. He's ready. It is Tom McCarthy, Philly's voice for a while on TV. Tom, great intro from Crats. So I'm not going to beat that. How are you doing? I honestly wish I had my brick memorial stuff up here in the side for a phrase. I mean, which I had something. Oh, man, get out of here. Brick memorial Mustang. Golden Mustangs phrased. Cold and Mustangs. They were good at wrestling. They weren't good at anything else. There's some truth to that. I mean, there's some truth to that. Women's soccer. Pretty good. Men's soccer, pretty good. Right? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Not as good as you guys and the brothers, but you know, the Frazier fam. Hey, one of your family members in the broadcast booth, John Crock was on the Philly show live when they did their show down the shore today. So I heard. Yeah. I'm sure there were some good sound bites from that one. The way I wanted to start here,

4:16actually, before we get to Philly's talk, T-Mac, is does he realize how viral he goes every other week for something during the broadcast and how fun it is? You know, it's funny. I don't think he does. I mean, Cratsy knows this. I mean, Todd, you've met him before. It's got you've seen me before. I mean, you've met him before. I mean, it's I think that he he understands some of it. I don't think that he cares. I think he just does what he does. I think it's what's on his mind. Quite honestly. I mean, it's really funny. Like he'll be he'll be laying. I mean, Cratsy has seen this couch. Todd, I don't know if you've seen this couch. Scott, I don't know if you've seen this couch before. We have in our office. We've had it in there for 20 years. He'll lay on that couch for like two hours and just talk to Larry Anderson or you know, or me or you know, Scott Fransky or Kevin Stalker. And all of a sudden, he'll be on the air and nothing that he says on the couch is what comes on the air, which I think is what makes him great. I mean, he's so natural about everything he does,

5:18you know, but I don't think he really I don't think he realizes or cares. I think he just says what he wants to say. Is there a time in the booth when you go, oh no, no, I got I got to make sure I stop because it's going to it's going to go not off the rails because he does a good job of keeping it on the rails. But when he's going in a certain direction that you're like, oh boy. You know, there was a time he he told a story about playing in a prison against a prison team in San Diego. I mean, it was a nondescript day in San Diego. We're I mean, I don't even think much was going on in the game. And he said, did I ever tell you about the time I played a prison team? And when I was at the San Diego, no, it was with the Mexican winter league team in Mexico. And I was like, no, and we started talking about it. He starts telling the whole story. And it was a really funny story. And at the end, when he talked about the fact that the catcher had no equipment on and he had burned the car of the the woman he was dating. You know, I don't know, husband or

6:26you know, whatever. I went, here's the O2 to trade turn. But it was funny. I mean, the whole story was very funny. I mean, it is. It's it's funny when you when you look when you look back and listen to it. What what would it be like if John Crock and Keith Hernandez and you did a game together in the. Oh, you know, so they talked about this. They taught a couple weeks ago. They did because I think there was a point where it was a Metz Phillies game that was a national TV. And it was like the national announcers. I'm sorry, it was the local announcers that would do it with I don't know if it was Jason Benetti or. Yeah, it was Matt Fettish, or whatever. And they talked about that. And Keith couldn't do it. We would love. And honestly, I think they would love to hear it because I think that the biggest thing about those guys is that they know where the line is. And sometimes they they erase it and move it, but they still know where it is. That makes sense. But I think the stories would be awesome because we actually did a game where it

7:28was me, Cole and John with Don Mattingley and the dugout and Keith and the other booth. And we talked about the, you know, the gold gloves that were one and then Keith came in and oh my gosh, the stories for that were unbelievable. And I think sometimes that is what's missing. I know that it's 20 years ago and some folks don't want to hear it. But my goodness, they have some great stories and some great lines that they could give. I think it would be awesome. I really do. I think it would be awesome. I think some of the people forget about both those guys, Keith and Cruck. They were really good players. They were really good players. So they they know what they're talking about. And this Philly's team has some really good players. Why are they doing so well from what you've seen day in and day up? You know, Cratsy, it's a great question. I think it's the ebbs and flows of a season. But I do think that there's something that that that came up at the end of July before the trade deadline. One of the things that Don Mattingley has talked about and

8:30listen, Rob Thompson was one of the greatest managers I've ever been around. He's probably, you know, one of the one or two greatest managers I've been with between him and Charlie Manuel and Larry Boa and actually will he Randolph when I was with the Mets. The one thing that he has done and they have done is that every month they kind of go over some of the stats that are floating around baseball. Hey, this is what defensive runs save show about what's going on at first base or second base. This is what the analytics show about the take percentage or the swing percentage. And I don't know how many teams do that. Many teams might do it, but they kind of go over it with the players and say, Hey, listen, we're at the bottom of the strikeout percentage. And these guys have been around for a long time and they sit there and say, wow, we need to be better at that. And I do think that has changed. I will not underscore what Luis arises, man, even though his

9:30batting average is less than it was with the San Francisco Giants. He's in a different spot, batting clean up compared to where he was with the Giants. I do think he has added something to this lineup. I think he's helped a lot of guys like Justin Crawford has strange that sounds. But I do think the fact that Bryce is playing the way he's doing. I think that's sort of his flip to switch a little bit. And I think that's what's lent itself to the success the Phillies have had since the first of August. I mean, they're 22 and eight since the first of August. You know, nobody has a better record than they do. I know that there's teams have a better record like the Red Sox is the All-Star break, but they were nine and 15 in July. So they were not even in the conversation about being successful going into September. So I think that the arise pickup has really helped them. And I think it's, I think there's also some other small moves that have been made by Dana Browski and Preston Maddenly. I think the Derrick Hill pickup has been unbelievable. I think the Brian De La Cruz pickup, you know, he was with them the whole year in the triple A. They

10:35brought him up. I think that's been huge for some reason. These guys have really picked it up. And I don't know. Sometimes I wonder how Derrick Hill is not a everyday player somewhere because defensively, man, he is a glider. I haven't seen. He reminds me of Doug Glanville a lot, guys. I know you guys have booked watch Doug play. You guys all three of you guys watch Doug Glanville play. He reminds me a lot of Doug Glanville the way he plays center field. By age of revenue or so, at least 70 percent have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for Black girls. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two Black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological, psychological chaos happening all this end up. We got into group chats and gaming, friendships and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that a road's trust.

11:36You're belonging. You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then they're fitting in. Fitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapists, caregains on Black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips, you have one to dress you up across your legs. That's the range of this run, from screen time to identity to the fathers doing the work at home. How to get off her device? The reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as you're adult in a life to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run. Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for Black girls on the iHeartReneo app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Self-care September is here, which means it's time to rethink what self-care actually means. Yes, self-care can be a long walk, it can be in everything shower, it can be putting your phone on, do not disturb, but sometimes it's actually about sitting with

12:40the uncomfortable stuff and understanding your patterns, your boundaries, finally figuring out while you keep doing things that you swore you would never do again. I'm Gemma Speg, the host of the psychology of your 20s podcast and each week we unpack the psychology behind the experiences that shape your 20s, from relationships and friendships to money, anxiety, confidence, attachment, just becoming more comfortable with who you are. Unlike the quarter life crisis which is depicted as the collapse, the quarter life reinvention is the expansion and the fourth of something. When we develop the ability to be happy by ourselves, nobody else can take that from you. So this self-care September, don't just take care of yourself, get to know yourself as well. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartReneo app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait 4 hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pignero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space

13:45where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartReneo app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You brought up a ride so I'm going to ask my arise question with the comments also. Can you put this to bed that arises not the protection that Bryce Harper needs, but he's having success? Because this is my argument when people say he comes in and he's the

14:48protection. If he was the protection, Bryce Harper would not be leading the league and walks. They're walking him because they're fine with Luis Arise hitting. Am I right or wrong? Very true. Okay. No, I don't think you're wrong about that, Karatsi. I do think that this started before Arise came here. The success of Bryce Harper, what he's been doing from a walk standpoint. I do think that I think you're right about that. I think they're thinking, all right, it's not Schwerber, it's not Arise. They won't pop the ball out of the ballpark with the number four hitter. But I think from a Philly standpoint, you look at it and his runners in scoring position numbers are down since he came over from the Giants. But there's still that presence. There's still something about him that he'll make contact. He'll do something his first step at with the Philly's was a clear indication of that. I don't think he's the prototypical. All right, let's get let's get Rooker from the A's and have them bat behind Bryce Harper. Let's get Dave Kingman when

15:52he was playing years ago. He's not that at all. It was a really big chance that Dave that Don Mattingley took by putting him in the cleanup spot. But I do think there's something to, all right, let's walk Harper. Let's go to Arise. I think he's come through a little bit more than people anticipated, but he's definitely, I don't think that what Bryce is doing is because of Luis Arise. I think it started before that. Okay, so four games back. You got seven games left against Atlanta Braves. Absolutely. Awesome. Yeah, it's phenomenal. This is a baseball fan whether your fan, these teams are not is where the action. This is where you want to be. What do the Philly's have to do against this Atlanta Braves team? I talked about a record where I need them to be against without asking for help. What do they have to do in those seven games? So I think five and two is what they need to be. And I don't think there's anything wrong with

16:55that. I think if you take three or four and then then win the series in Atlanta, I think that that's doable. I love from a baseball standpoint what this means. Let's let's look at even game one of the series. It's Christopher Sanchez going up against the arguably one of the best pictures in the last five years in Major League Baseball. How great is that for baseball on Friday night? But I think five and two against these guys makes it a legitimate last two weeks of the season. And you know what? This is not an easy homestand. You got the Braves and you got the Astros. You guys just put up that's huge. And then you got the Braves again. And then you have Washington with scores a lot of runs. Their bullpen is not great, obviously. And then you got to a match team that they've been playing a lot better. There's no doubt about it. But I think five and two against the Braves at least sets you up for the end result. I don't want to say six and one. I don't want to say

17:59sweep them out. If you sweep them out, great. I just don't think that's realistic at this point in Major League Baseball. I really don't. But man, if you're baseball and you have September 4th, 2026, and you have a Friday night at the bank and you have that matchup, you're probably sitting there thinking this should have been a national game on so many levels. All right. I'm not sure if we have the graphic or not of the Phillies rotation. We ran it earlier and maybe our crack producers behind the scene can get it on there. The lineup of guys who are where they're pitching the rotation. Starting rotation for this series is Christopher Sanchez, Zach Wheeler, Aaron Nola to Jesus Lazardo. If you were to take a snapshot and you only watched the last five starts of all four of those guys, who are the best two in that group before? Well, I think it's one in four. You know, honestly, and I know I know where you're going,

18:59and I know, I know, I know has been great. He's been great. And honestly, I told this to people before that Zach Wheeler in my 26 years in the big leagues and Todd and Eric, I don't know if you guys feel this way. He is one of my favorite pitchers of all time, all time for everything that he does, how comedy is and what he does before games. But I do believe it's one in four for the Phillies. But I'm excited to see what Zach does in his outing this weekend against the Braves because I think he's kind of feeling it a little bit. The Angels are not a great team, but I think he pitched better. I think he's figuring some things out. But I think one in four for me is what I'm looking for from a Phillies standpoint for a majorly baseball standpoint. All right. The reason the team lost, yes, I know they didn't hit in the last few post seasons, but I still don't think it was the lineup, the bullpen. Is the bullpen in a spot, or do they need somebody to have a great September to

20:06solidify the last spot, or even the last two spots to make this team a world series team? Yeah, it's a great question. I think it, I do think that it's a legitimate question. I believe that what you saw yesterday with Bull when I mean he had a little flying saucer that was hit out for a home run. I really think that he's okay to be a seventh or eighth inning guy. I do believe that somebody's going to move to the bullpen. You know, people talk about this all the time, like who's they're going to be? It's not going to be one of the top three. So I mean, I mean, Cratsy, you know this and Todd, you know this from playing Scott, you've seen this. I believe that it's going to be painter that will go to the bullpen at some point in the post season, even though he's been unbelievable, but I think that he's got such, I think he's got such great stuff. But I believe from bullpen standpoint, I love Bowen. I love everything about him. I think McFarland is still,

21:07it's not David Price in 2008 where he's on the outside looking in, but I don't know if he's up to the seventh or eighth inning yet. You know, they're going to rely on Kirkering. You know, they're going to rely on Raley who I think is really good. But I do think that that's an issue for the team is to whether they can establish seventh and eighth inning before Jaron, because he's arguably one of the best closes in baseball. Yeah. All right. One of the guys that used to work with you in the booth, Gary Matthews, the Sarge, just got inducted into the Negro League Hall of Fame. Can you speak on that a little bit? Somebody that probably was one of the better storytellers, even though he may not have gotten every fact exactly right in the story. That's exactly still a good story. You know, Karatsy, I mean, he's one of my favorite people of all time. And I'm telling you this to you, who is also one of my favorite people, no offense Todd, Ocean County zone. But Sarge is one of those eclectic guys in Major League Baseball that

22:16is amazing to be around on every level, energy level, talking the game, understanding the game. And you think about this class that's going into the Negro League Baseball Hall of Fame. It is a class amongst itself on so many levels. But I am so proud of him. I love him. I laugh every time I see him. I smile every time I see him. I think everybody does. But to think about him going in with the likes of Reggie Smith, and I'm just an awe of what he's accomplished during his career. And he was an amazing partner on so many levels, because he made me laugh every time I went into the booth, no matter what he did. And I know from a post game standpoint, he made all the players laugh too when he did the post game interviews. So I'm proud of him. I think the Negro League Baseball Hall of Fame is an amazing place. And I think that they have really done this year's class an amazing amount of justice by putting in this particular class itself to spotlight how much

23:19greatness they've done in baseball. They may not be major league baseball hall famous overall, but they've done an awful lot for the game itself. Yeah, they do. And also, yeah, congrats to Sarge. A lot of memories. Listen to him on calls. Okay, I got one for you, team, act, my last one, different turn here. Kind of random, but you've been calling games in this division for a while. Are you surprised how how irrelevant the Metz were this year? Like, it's just been Braves, Phillies, and some Marlins being cute. But like the Metz were out of it a few weeks into the season. Yeah, honestly, the biggest thing though, Scotty is I don't want to face them next week. You guys know my son does the Metz games on radio. You know, I know Todd knows that. I know, Cratsy knows that I still think they're dangerous. I am surprised that they are as irrelevant as they have been. I think they're playing a lot better. Sometimes it's addition because of subtraction, but I will not take them lightly when they face them next week. It's

24:23four games in New York. It's a great rivalry. I think it's awesome for baseball. I think it's awesome the way they've set it up. But I will not take them lightly next week when they face them. But I am surprised that they have not played as well. Listen, there are two managers this year that I thought were really good managers. Everybody knows how I feel about Rob Thompson. I think he's one of the greatest managers that I've ever been around. I think Carlos Mendoza is a really good manager. And I think if somebody picks him up, I think that they'd be really happy with him. So I think that there were two teams that underachieved the first part of the year. It's just fortunate for us that the Phillies did not continue to underachieve, but the Metz did up until the All-Star break. Last one. Everybody asks us, what do you guys do on your off day? Can you explain? Because this is a show, no? This is a show and a podcast. You're going to explain this picture about what you were doing on your off day today. Well, it's the greatest off day in the history of off days when I get a chance

25:24to enjoy my granddaughter, Quinley, Patrick and Emily's daughter. So she came over for a couple hours. I've been running with the dogs. We have an adopted dog that's been sitting at my lap the whole time that I've been doing this interview. But Quinley and I have spent some time here today. We'll spend some time later today. And families, the most important thing. And everybody in baseball knows how much off days are important. But for me, getting home at 2 a.m. and being up at 7.30 to see this face is the greatest reward for anybody that's around life itself, not only baseball, but life itself. So cute. You awesome. Yeah. So cute. Looks I can I can see the personality in the picture for real. So actually on the picture here, let's finish with this. Best pup ever, completely behaving. Can we get a little peak? How big are we talking here? All right. So I'll be able to see. Literally at my hat at my my other one, my main one is there. But this is a hey, hey, Nova.

26:31No, come here. This is Nova. She's a sea pranard. Right. My other one is out there lounging on the couch. It's too dark over there. See, so we're we're fostering this one. And my son Tommy, who you guys may know works for Victus and handles a lot of the gloves and bats for Victus. So Nova is going to be living with Tommy moving forward, but spending some time with us and has been by my side, the whole the entire day. Love it. Nova's a gem. I mean, the utmost behavior. We've had some some pups and some babies, you know, make. Literally guys has been at my lap the entire time with a big gigantic head on my lap the entire time we've been doing this interview. I'm glad you know your house. What's that going to bring you over to your house? I could bring you over up there in a half hour. I thought you named the dog Rutgers or Scarlett Knight or something.

27:33No, I guess we can hang with Nova. That's fine. Frasier was taking. Frasier's time up, man. Team Ag, thank you. Enjoy the rest of the day. Appreciate it. Great to catch up. Guys, always great to catch with you guys too. Be good, all right? Buy Asia Rather in our cell. At least 70% have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for black girls. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological chaos happening all this We got into group chats and gaming, friendship and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that a road's trust. You're belonging. You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then they're fitting in. fitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection.

28:36Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapists, caregames on black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips. You have on the dress you have across your legs. That's the range of this run from screen time to identity to the fathers doing the work at home. You have to get off her device. But the reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as your adults in the life to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run. Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for black girls on the iHot Radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Self-care September is here which means it's time to rethink what self-care actually means. Yes, self-care can be a long walk. It can be an everything shower. It can be putting your phone on do not disturb. But sometimes it's actually about sitting with the uncomfortable stuff. And understanding your patterns, your boundaries. Finally figuring out why you keep doing things that you swore you would never do again. I'm Jenna Speg, the host of the Psychology of Your 20s podcast.

29:40And each week we unpack the psychology behind the experiences that shape your 20s. From relationships and friendships to money, anxiety, confidence, attachment. Just becoming more comfortable with who you are. Unlike the quarter life crisis which is depicted as the collapse, the quarter life reinvention is the expansion and growth of something. When we develop the ability to be happy by ourselves, nobody else can take that from you. So this self-care September, don't just take care of yourself. Get to know yourself as well. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHot Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Beniero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity

30:42for possibility. Every time I try to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHot Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. They're still alive. Isaac Azude from Fish on First cover in the team and telling us why the Marlins might sneak in. Is that how we're going to go? Are you looking at this saying, hey, I see a lane. The Optimist in me says yes, the Van Grass odds were pretty more favorable than I thought they'd be at 9.6% to make the postseason. There's going to need a little bit of help but a lot of things are in their control. So I guess that the Optimist in me says that there is certainly a lane here.

31:45All right, so go ahead. Tell us about it. Tell us the Optimistic Optimist in you so that I can just absolutely squash your hopes. All right, well, let's see. They got 22 games left. 18 of those games are against teams that are ahead of them in the standings. From Mar calculation, I think they need maybe 86 or 87 wins in total to secure that one of those spots. So they only have about six or seven losses to play with here. So they're going to have to play really well. I get some tough teams in the Podre's Diamondbacks Braze. But the good news is that they're all ahead of them in the standing. So they do have an opportunity to make up significant ground here. But the unfortunate reality is that they have just not performed very well on the road and a good chunk of those games against the Diamondbacks and the Podre's. They're all on the West Coast. So that's the bad news. But the good news is they have certainly an opportunity to make up a lot of ground here and they're only two and half games back. We've seen crazier things happen in the month of September and major league baseball. I say, I love your I love your optimism. I'm just trying to bring some realism here and you

32:49said all to 18 of 22 games you said are teams with better records than the Marlins. Correct. That ahead of them in the standing is correct. And the Marlins are two games over 500. Do you know what their record is versus teams over 500 this year? They have struggled significantly against teams with better records against them. I know I'll aware. However, though, the last series of the season is against the Braves. Will they have the NL East locked up by then? Will they be able to rest some starters? Maybe they could go in their favor? The last road series is against the Cubs. Will they already have the NL Central? They're playoff spot locked in. So certain things like that could go in the Marlins favor, but hey, you know, that doesn't make for entertaining concerts. It's true. You talk about you wrote a little thing on X the other Dirt. Excuse me. Today about his aviard words, talk about him and how deeply he's going to be missed too as well moving forward. Yeah, I mean, he and Otto Lopez were forming one of the better middle infields in all of Major League

33:50baseball. It was really unfortunate. He had been playing a little bit hurt with a little bit of a sore thumb. And then when you stole a base the other day, he just re aggravated it. So they put him out for a little bit, but from what I was told this morning, he should be returning, nearing his return very soon. And yeah, it's that was a tough one because that's not only your lead off man. Your number four hitter, your gold glove caliber second baseman. He was someone that was really versatile for the Miami Marlins, but like I said, he should be back within seven, eight days. And that'll be a really big catalyst for the lineup. What are we looking in Jared Cern, of the call from Triple A is going to make his Major League their view. Talk about him a little bit. You know, as the exciting player is there saying coming up here, we'll see what happens. Hey, actually, Dave you'd last night he was in the starting lineup. He contributed in our BI and a pretty well hit ball the right center. I don't think the expectations are extremely high with Jared Cern, more of a utility middle infueler. They can play all three infield spots. They acquired him in the jazz chism junior trade from the New York Yankees in addition to Augustine Ramirez. But for with Cern, I think he's just sort of a stop gap option while Xavier Edwards

34:55heals. I think they have in love with they've been getting from Leo Jimenez and a couple of their other infield options. So they just wanted to try something different and more importantly, someone that was on the 40 man roster and Cern have filled both those boxes. So hence his collar. Xavier Edwards going down on the I L. Does it feel like it's more like a finally he's going on the I L type of thing? Do you feel like they pushed it too much causing this team to possibly slip a little bit? I mean, yeah, with X he had been along with the whole team. They've been running crazy, right? They're stealing a lot of bases up and down the organization. I think with X, yeah, he was it was himself that was pushing it a little bit and he was a little bit hurt towards the end of August towards the middle of August as well. But you know, every athlete's mentality, they don't want to sit out any games. So I think that did play a part and if we're sure, unfortunately, but the fortunate part is that there's still 22 games left. There is time for him to come back. But yeah, he he was trying to make up some graphics. He struggled a little bit after the all-star break and you could tell he just did not want to sit. He was one of the most available

35:59players on the Marlins. He had played in every single game up until this I Austin. That's part of it too. You want to push it because you're like, I'm an everyday guy and those type of guys always play through something. But unfortunately, my guy X hopefully this 10 days will get it and get it 100%. Max Meyer, do you have any update or new status of where he's at with his? I think it was a neck something next strain. Yeah, next strain he went to go get a second opinion up in Pensacola a couple of weeks ago. But no, he hasn't even started throwing yet. He's all but out for the year. The team has an officially announced it yet. There is probably a 1% chance he could come back in some sort of relief role, but he won't be able to be stretched out in time for anything. So now he's out for the year. Relief role. Pete Fairmax. We obviously, you look at his baseball card for this season. Doesn't to me, it doesn't reflect the value that he's brought this team besides a few bad stretches. I feel like he's been a massive, massive, positive

37:01piece him going on the I L. What does this mean for this bullpen trying to make this final run? I completely agree with you, Cratsy, because yeah, he struggled a little bit to start his marlons curve. But when he went on the I L is at the most inopportune time because he was really solidifying the back end of that bullpen and saving games the way he we were accustomed to seeing when he was pitching in Tampa and pitching a World Series games in 2020. So it was really tough timing when he was placed on the I L, but he's also throwing again him and Anthony Bender are both throwing. So the hope is that Miami could get both of those guys back at the back end of their bullpen before this before season's end. And that would play a big, big boost for this team because they're bullpen. A lot of these inexperienced rookie guys are really sort of been using a views a bit here in the month of August and September. So they're going to need those guys back and they'll be getting them back hopefully before September 10th or so. I had a question before this, but something coming of mine here talking about the trade deadline. Do you think this team, if they

38:02even tried a little bit and picked up some guys at the trade deadline, they could have won a couple more games and been a little bit closer in this race? Yeah, that was probably one of my bigger critiques of the front office this year. You can blame them too much because look at where they are in the standings, look where they were last year. They've been competitive, but yes, I'm with you. They should have added at least some starting pitching to help because once Robbie Snelling and Thomas White, their two top prospects went down. Max Meyer was going to, he had never thrown this many innings in his life. You sort of knew something was going to come. They DFA Chris Patigret away. They could have used some pitching help help and now granted a lot of those guys that were on the market haven't been performing too well, but still I think any sort of innings would have helped this team in the long run. They could have acquired a third baseman. And I guess that 12 game losing streak taught really sunk the hope out of the front office. So still following the deadline Peter Benning's did say that he believes in this team. He thinks that they can make the postseason, but I would have liked to see some sort of addition. The only addition they made to the Beagleeg roster was relief pitcher Victor Vodnic. It was been fine,

39:06but yeah, there were a couple holes that I thought they were going to fill. By Asia Ravon or so, at least 70 percent have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for Black girl. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two Black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological chaos, happening all this in time. We got into group chats and gaming, friendship and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that erodes trust. You're belonging. You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then they're fitting in. Spitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapists, cure gains on Black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips. You have one to dress you up across your legs.

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43:17He wasn't hitting great and triple A Jacksonville, but now that he's not catching any more, granted because Joe Mack is doing what he does best, I think Augustine Ramirez could have a sneaky really good month of September. And if you have some right handed power, we know how good the marlins are with left handed power. They've got stowers, they've got KC, they've got K9, they can get some semblance of right handed power in that lineup that would really even things out and help this team long-term. He's just being used as D.H. right now. We've been told he play some first, but that hasn't really happened yet. But if Augustine Ramirez can get things going, I think that would be a huge, huge upgrade to the offense. You said Joe Mack, obviously Augustine Ramirez is not going to be catching. I went to a Marlins game earlier when they played the Phillies and Joe Mack was out. Is he dealing with something in his shoulder or is he dealing with first year, trying to play a long season in the big leagues, kind of burning him out a little bit? Yeah, he's actually caught more innings this professional season than he has in his entire life. So the wear and tear is obvious, but if you talk to him, he'll tell you

44:19he's ready to catch 162 games a year. But yeah, he was dealing with some sort of shoulder ailment earlier in August. Since then, he seems to be back to 95% ish, but they just, the team really wanted to avoid any IEL time because we know the aforementioned Ramirez behind the plate and they have Brian Navarrito on the roster as well. I think they really need and value Joe Mack a lot. So he was dealing with it a little bit. It is surprising how much they're having him catch, considering how young he is, high school catcher who has never caught this much in his life. But like I said, he's a gamer and he wants to catch all 162 games plus everyone in the post season if it gets to that. If he wants to catch 162 games, he just needs to get fat. Just the fat catchers can play all the time or JT Real Muto. He's a freak. But my last question for you kind of goes into what we're talking about with the 500 teams. Watching this team all year, do you feel like this team is not as good as the teams that are over 500 or do you feel like it's a young roster that maybe plays or looks

45:25a little bit different when they play those better teams. When they play the big time names or the name on the front might get to them a little bit. Do you see a difference? Frankly, I think that they're a team that just lacks the depth to be a true contender right now. I think that their bullpen is making that clear. I think that the fact that they only believe in two starting pitchers to go deep into ball games, that's also going to hurt the bullpen. And I think they're just missing a lot of a lot of key pieces that would make them a legitimate contender. This season now could they sneak in somehow just sort of like they did in 2023? Absolutely. But to me, they just don't have the pitching depth that these other teams have. They don't have the offensive pieces that the other teams have. And frankly, they don't have the experience in the dugout that these other teams have. You know, Clay McCullough and his second year staff. A lot of them are doing these roles for the first time in their lives starting from last year. So you don't have a lot of experience in the manager's spot. You don't have a lot of experience in the coaching staff. So I think all those factors play an unfortunate role in the fact that this team just isn't quite there

46:28yet in my opinion. Next year, it could be a whole different story. Like I said, they could sneak in this year. But to me, this team is just sort of an incomplete team. Do you feel like they're on their course of what they want to do, which is essentially mimic the race long term and mostly be in it, not have to do the big scrap it all down and rebuild? You know, I will say we've had you on obviously frequently here. I don't love the idea because the race churn is not good for capturing an audience. I know that's not the job of the front office, but Miami. It actually does matter, right? You want to make money and you want fans to show up. If fans show up, presumably you're going to spend more on your team because you're making more money, right? Fans need to connect. Right? Liam Hicks comes in as a great first half, see a with tons of years in control. Not saying he's the one I'm just using him as an example. Yeah. So like, where are they on the path? And does the path still make sense in that market?

47:30We'll see. I know that they're they are right on path with what they want. If you look at the AAA depth and the AA depth, they're they're very happy and very content with what they've got. And they think that that's going to create a sustainable winner for a long period of time. And then I still think they're not quite there yet in the lower levels of the miners and singly in high A. I think they would like to add more depth there. And once they get there, maybe you could see some sort of continuity on the Big League roster. I to answer your question regarding the Big League market, I think that they yes, correct. Some continuity at the manor's spot, some continuity in the outfield and continuity in the infield would go a long ways in having fans go out and support the team because like you said, the raise, despite being one of the best regular season teams every year, year in and year out, they don't turn out great attendance. And I think that should be a part of the baseball operations role is because hey, if you bring in some big reagents that will help all facets of the organization. So they are on target with what they want to do developmentally wise and organization depth wise. But to answer your question regarding continuity, the Big League

48:35team, I'm not sure if that's ever going to be a thing for the Peter Bendix and his stuff. Yeah, that's the part that I'm worried about long term is right. You build a team, they're kind of floating in wild card contention, fans still aren't showing up and connecting and then you're saying, well, no one's coming and we can't spend. You know, I mean, that could change. I know they're hoping that changes with a cap and a floor, but I'd call that 50, 50 at best. You can't bank your whole franchise off that. So to be determined, we'll see what comes out of the CVA and then we can talk about what the plan looks like going forward for this team. Cool to see them involved, right? They're playing meaningful games in September. So and that's why you're here and people can check you out on fish on first. So Isaac, appreciate it, man. Thanks for the time and we'll have you back on soon. That was great. Thanks, guys. Thank you. All right, fish on first. You can find it by smacking the QR code on the right side of the screen. If you want more Myland's coverage, this is the spot. It's part of the FT network. They've got plenty of shows for you weekly, great written coverage as well. Our gaeje Ramos is on with Isaac and company frequently.

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