Packers Offseason Mailbag!!!

0:00Welcome into the Wednesday edition of the Pack of the Podcast. I am one of your co's Dusty, but with me as always, Sarah and Steve, guys, guys, it is our last episode before the draft, before before we leave, we take our like a month and a half off. I think I think we are joined. I think there's a couple other people doing this now. It's not. I think it's not Perry. Perry was was taking a break. Perry's sitting out. I think I saw Jen Aaron and Jimmy, I think are sitting out for a bit. I don't think the full time, but we're joined in solidarity, but we use this, you know, selfishly, we get a little time for ourselves, but also it's seeding the four to people who know more than we do. We're trying to go out of the bang, big mailbag before we get to that point. How are you guys? Steve, we'll start with you, brother.

1:01You're on spring break right now with the children. How are things going, man? It's good, man. I'm tired. We got back today. We did two days at a water park at a hotel overnight and then did it all over again today. So lots of fun, but everybody's kind of tired, but kids just came in and you can probably hear them right now. So I'll have to mute that and kind of do a little, hey, you guys can't be screaming during this, but you know, we're doing good, man. We're going to a cabin on Thursday about an hour south of here and just going to relax and not do too much. Nice. Sarah, what are you up to? Yeah. I'm just hanging out. Lots of big stuff, you know, coming up, my brother's getting married next weekend. So you know, trying to help the fam out and get the final things ready to go because I'm in the wedding. So that's always a fun time. So looking forward to that, we'll have to, you know, debrief, of course, once we're back from our break. But yeah, the break comes out a good time because in the next few days between Easter and

2:05that, it's going to be a little bit crazy for the calories, but all good things. Lots to celebrate, which is never something to complain about. No, that's awesome. Well, we were going to talk about, you know, the days events, we don't have days events. There's the coaches and GMs and everyone are meeting out in Arizona right now. That stuff, Goody, we heard from the floor, I think, for the first time since the end of the season, if I'm not mistaken, policy as well, all the big hitters, but that stuff was covered yesterday. So we looked at what was going on today. There's nothing going on. So it's only fitting we go into our little break with the mailbag. We got some heavy hitters, all of our regular showed up. Very happy for that. So Sarah, kick us off. What do we got from our questions this week? Yeah. So you guys did not disappoint. We said we're going away for a little while and the whole gang showed up and asked questions. So you'll hear a lot of familiar names as you go through the list here. So first one, who else, Brian Hartstad, which of these 2027 free agent receivers do you think the Packers will resign for next season?

3:06Watts, Reed or Wix, and then a start sit cut. Mexican meats, carnitas, barbacoa, carne asada, and then start, a bonus start sit cut for the road, vacation destinations, European tours, sea crews, or theme park trips. So Steve, you're technically kind of sort of on spring break. So why don't you take this one first? As far as who I think the Packers will sign, I mean, to me, I would hope it's Watson. I think he's going to be the, you can find Gadgety guys like Reed. You can find another guy like Wix in the draft. I'm thinking they've been pretty good at drafting on receivers under Goody. So I think that would be the one I would hope for. And then start sit cut for foods. I will start carne asada. When it's done well, it's good, skirt steak, and that's just, that's great for Mexican. Then I'll go barbacoa and then carnitas. And then vacation destinations, I will go start. Well, I take that back vacation destination with no children.

4:09I will go European tour, start theme park trip, and then sea crews. So I've been on a cruise before and I will never go on another one again. Oh, oh, let's unpack that. Why not? You know, it was just a lot of the, like the add-ons and everything like you think you're paying for the crews. And then it's you get there and it was all the alcohol you had to, you had to pay for. And then, you know, me and my ex were trying to be sneaky and sneak in a whole bunch of booze. And they have X-ray machines for that kind of stuff. So they found all those and they didn't give them back to the last night. So the last night was really fun. But we learned some tricks and tips, though. One of them is if you have a clear alcohol, put it in a listerine bottle. And then just whatever color it is, just put a little dye in there. And then that looks like mouthwash. That was one of the ones. The other one somebody was said was to thoroughly rinse out a shampoo bottle and just

5:11pour it in your shampoo bottle. That was another one. So those were, those were some of the things. But, you know, overall just, it was too much in one space. And then when we'd get dropped off at these ports and it was just so touristy, like it was like, hey, go sit on the beach at this place. And then go sit on the beach at this place. And then they all know your tourists. And it's 30 bucks for a bucket of beers and things like that. So it just wasn't, when I go, like what I've gone on vacations in the past, I've always enjoyed exploring the actual country and doing that kind of stuff. And this, like, cruises just wasn't it. I've heard the shampoo trick before. I've not tried that. I've all the suntan lotion to the same thing. There's no way you can wash it out that thoroughly to just give it to that taste, right? Like it's always tasting a little bit like shampoo or suntan lotion. I don't know what to say. I mean, if I would, you know, obviously I don't drink anymore, but if I were to try to do it, I would think I would go with the, the listerine type of thing where you just pour it in and put a drop of green or two in there and you've got green vodka or whatever. But that, that seems like I was like, I was like,

6:12there's no way I'm doing the suntan lotion. Man, that's just, that's just going to taste like suntan lotion. And I'm, I'm not, I'm not as good as, all right. I do like the idea of putting, like, some fancy, like sneakets and patby in, but putting in suntan lotion, you know, completely ruining it. Just sitting at the, sitting in a lounge chair with the suntan going, squeezing it in the best brum overhead. Oh, it's so good. There's an always sunny thing where they go to Jersey Shore and Charlie misunderstands and just is drinking suntan lotion. That's all I can think of. All right. Frager receivers, I mean, Watson, it feels like there's been so much smoke that's probably going to happen, which I like because what he gives to the offense. But also like the injuries are a real factor. He is a little older. I think he was 23, 24 when he was drafted. So I, I love Watson. I want him back. That seems like the slam dunk answer, I wouldn't be mad at wicks. Like just what he is kind of grown into. He's the best blocking receiver on the team. He took a lot of the kind of more possessiony stuff that that dobs had last year.

7:15When dobs was kind of out or when they were both on there and they had dobs doing some different stuff and he did really well. The hands look pretty good last year. A good route runner like we know he's a good route runner. He's got a little more speed than dobs. So I wouldn't mind. I mean, he's not had his breakout. He probably will never become like that, dude. But if they want to bring wicks back on like a middling option, I'd be totally fine with that. I really like what he has kind of grown into a really nice role in the offense. Starts it cut food. I'll go, I'm sorry, food Mexican meats. I'm starting barbacoa. Man, I love barbacoa. I'm going to sit carne asada and cut carnitas. There's not a bad answer here. They're all tremendous. That was, that was very, very hard. Starts it cut. Steve, I almost went like taking kids out of it. I just decided to answer with kids. Um, I'm doing theme park. We've talked about doing that going down to like universal, uh, Disney kind of seeing that stuff. Cause I grew up in, you're up in Florida as a kid and we go over to Disney and, and it was MGM studios. I guess the time we go over there and have a lot of good memories. So like the part of it is, I want to take that down there.

8:16They want to see it, see it through their eyes. I think they'd be a lot of fun. I also know I will be miserable. It will not be fun, but they will make good memories. So that's worth it to me. Um, I'm going to sit European tour and I'm going to cut crews. I've never done a, a cruise. Um, I've heard enough stories, Steve, kind of like yours, but also worse stories that like, I'm, I'm good. I'm not, not super just in that, not nearly like an ideal world. It sounds cool. I don't think it's for me. Yeah. I mean, I understand why people do it and like some people absolutely just thrive on that. That's what they love and they, you know, they want all their meals. Right there and, you know, the, the buffets were nothing I would want to go back to again. It was like, it's kind of like an old country buffet type of situation. So I mean, they had some go on again. I think carnival. I'm not really sure. This was like 12, 13 years ago. Robins where it's at. So that's you and I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah. Royal Caribbean is my personal faith.

9:17Um, as far as witch reagents do, I think they're, they're going to bring back. I think it's going to be Watson. And it just, it seems like all roads are leading there. I mean, Dusty, you definitely have a good argument for, for read. But I feel like it's just probably going to be him. And he's such a key part of their offense this year. I'm expecting even more than we saw last season because he's coming in fully healthy. There's no Romeo dobs anymore. So it's going to be a big year for him. And I think if he performs even somewhat at a high level that he's probably going to be, he's probably going to be resigned and get paid. Um, yeah, Mexican meets. This isn't possible because I wish I could pick all three. But I think that probably Karnas on a group of you, Steve, like it has to be done right. But when it is, it's unbeatable. And then I will sit barbed wire cut carnitas. But again, I, I feel disgusting cutting carnitas because I love them. Um, and then for me starts to cut vacations start European tour.

10:18That's easy for me. I want to, I want to explore more of Europe. Um, and then I'm going to sit see Cruz cut theme parks. I just, for me, the theme parks aren't vacation because I live in Florida and specifically Orlando. So I go not all the time, but enough where I'm like, uh, I can go there and then come back and sleep in my own bed, which is definitely a privilege. So it's not just really a vacation for me. Um, all right, next questions for Matt pick it to part question. First part with your upcoming free time. What's one football and one non football piece of content that you plan to consume and start. Sit cut fresh winter snow skate, autumn leaf views or summer beach vistas. A lot of vacation themed to question so far. Dusty, what, what are you feeling on this? So one football, I've got some, some books I want to go through. I've always got books I want to read. There's, um, the evolution of the game. There's two books evolution of the game and how football became football that are kind of like history of the game told through different lenses that I've kind of wanted to read. So maybe I'll get into those and the other stuff is also books like non football.

11:20I just started reading, um, red rising about halfway through the first book there. So I'll take me a little bit depending on if I read this six that are out now or just the first, the original trilogy, the first three. Uh, I got a couple other books like crying in H Mart is one I've been looking at for a long time by, um, which Michelle, Michelle's owner, uh, the lead singer of Japanese breakfast. It's her memoir that's been on my shelf. So mate, may check out that one. Some TV to catch up on Daredevil's back. Um, I've never watched Peaky Blinders and they just came out with that movie and, uh, so I might need to watch Peaky Blinders. So I got a lot of stuff that I, I will do 10% of what I think I'm going to do before the draft season's done. But, uh, I got a nice long list here and then start sit cut. I'm going to start autumn leaf views. Can't beat it, man. You can't beat it. I'm going to sit winter snow escape and cut summer beach vistas. I love me a summer beach vista, but summer beach vista also just means hot. Just just heat and sun and sand and I just get tired of that after a while. So I will, I will cut it even though I wouldn't say no if someone offered to do me, you know.

12:22Sure. Let's see as far as football content, um, I mean, whatever pops up on Twitter will be one thing. And I think I'll probably do a little dive into the cheese or the, you know, the cheesehead pack of day, um, draft guide when that comes out. So I want to take a look at that and just kind of research because I haven't looked at anything for the draft. Like I've just, since I know, especially that we're not doing it, I'm like, meee. I kind of like look at stuff that people post here and there, but for the most part, I'm kind of out on that stuff right now. So I'll catch up when it gets a little closer to draft. And then, uh, non-football piece of content, book I'm reading right now is called Let Them. Um, it's kind of like a philosophical book, uh, a way to live life and things like that of kind of being able to, to let go of things yourself that, you know, you don't need to have control over, or you don't need to be a part of or whatever. And it's kind of like kind of like a, uh, a freeing kind of thing of like how letting yourself

13:25just live in the moment and not have to be too worried about what could happen or the things like that. So very interesting, so far, uh, I've read a couple of chapters into it, but yeah, probably some time for to finish that one up. And then start sit cut. Uh, I'm going to start autumn. I love autumn, like the little crisp in the air. Then I would sit summer beach vistas because I do enjoy, I do enjoy that. But kind of like Dusty said, when it gets too hot, yeah, it's a bit much for me. But fresh, coming fresh out of winter, I'm good with snow, like I've seen enough snow for a while, like I can I can last until next until this next upcoming winter. So yeah, for me, um, I'm with you, Steve, with the football content, probably going to be just honestly listening to back a day and, um, reading cheesehead articles and following people that are much smarter about the draft than we are, um, just to kind of learn more beyond just running back, such as really the only position group that I've done any research and watch some some film on for lack of better turned film being, you know, looking up YouTube and looking up some analysis there.

14:30Um, and then non football, um, the boys is back next week. One of my favorite shows final season. So that premieres, um, I think like April 8th, sometime next week. So I'll definitely be watching that. It'll, it'll still be on. I think when we're back from our break, but that's certainly a non football related show piece of content that I will be consuming. Um, and then starts it cut. Yes, easy starting autumn, love autumn, love like the day in Florida. I know I've talked about on this show when I walk out and go to work and I feel like after just the hundred degree, you know, high 90s days and you walk out and there's just like a little chill in the air. And you're like, we made it. We made it like where it's everything's going to be okay. So that's first summer beach vistas definitely sit and then I just have to cut fresh winter snow escape because I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I, you know, I like, like, it's cool if I went on vacation and like went to a ski lodge because that's what I'm choosing to do,

15:30but just doing that all the time. I don't, I don't think I could do it. All right, next questions from Mike Cuano. Who is the pick at 52 and how much of the fan base is protesting the moment the name is red and then what's your guilty pleasure draft day snack Steve? Not right. Who's going to be picked at number 52? No damn clue. I can't pretend that I actually can give you somebody, but all I can tell you is that yeah, it's going to, it's going to drive the fan base insane. If we know anything about Packers Twitter that half of people won't like the pick, you know, another half will, another quarter will say it's the worst in the world. And then there'll be like five percent. They're like, I kind of like this. I see what good accune was doing, but for the most part, it's going to be insanity. And then guilty pleasure snack for draft day. I've talked about this plenty of times, but I still love buffalo outlings, man. I, for what I like, they're, they're, they're mediocre, but they're still good. They got a,

16:31a new chili crisp sauce that has been outstanding that I really enjoy. So I think I'll probably end up doing that. Yeah, I mean, you kind of nailed it with the end there, Steve. It doesn't matter who is picked. There will be division among the fan base. There's very few that are fully loved or fully hated it. I mean, just looking at what little I've looked at so far, Chris Johnson or Jacob Rodriguez or like the two names that like, I wouldn't be shocked. Chris Johnson is a cornerback. Jacob Rodriguez linebacker. Those are both areas of need. Those are both guys who could fall down to 52, I think. So those, I could see either one of those guys. I've seen a lot of big citrus stuff, the, what was the Dominique orange, I guess, the defensive tackle. I would not like that. I wouldn't like him at 52, like a little later. But Johnson or Rodriguez, if either of those guys are taken, I'd say if Chris Johnson is taken, I think they will probably be more people happy about it than not. But I think most other people would probably be upset. If say Jacob Rodriguez went, it's a linebacker in Round 2. I don't think people would be happy about

17:33that. What is my guilty pleasure, Draffte Snack? Brother, no guilty pleasures. We've covered this. We don't have guilty pleasures. We had one time. I always get together with my brothers for the first round, one year. One year my brother bought these. They were white castle bite jalapenos things that were like, it was like a Totino's pizza roll. But it was white castle, like kind of like a burger, like shredded meat with cheese and jalapeno inside, like a, like a little pizza roll type thing. Insane. They're so, so good. Have not found them since. But that's one that we look for every year, because those were so, so good. We'll be right back. Very nice. All right. Next question is from Simeon. Hello, friends. All this talk of NFL PA grades got me thinking. Matt Laflore was questions about his grade. Matt Laflore was questioned about his grade, and supposedly not respecting his players. First, thoughts on that. And then

18:36second, what grade would you give each other for the same criteria? Respect to all of you. He has to add respect to all of you, because he knows that it's about, that this question is an agent of chaos, and it's about to, you know, make us probably say things that we don't mean about each other. So who wants to go first? Any takers on, on how we're scoring each other on the respect scale? I'll go. Yeah, wait, I mean, just don't get too fast there. I got it. It does. It's like creepy. Smile on his face. Like, I'll go. I've loaded for a while. We got this. Touch on Laflore stuff real quick. I do think we talked about this before. And Laflore mentioned something about some, some guys not happy with their roles. And we kept talking about a personality standpoint. There is a, like, how do you judge that without knowing exactly what all goes into kind of that, like, not respecting players? Like, was Roshan Gary mad? Because Laflore told him to run, like, maybe I go, all right, man, like, that, maybe

19:36that's on the table. So some of that, like, if it's personality stuff, that could just be, maybe there are some guys that were just a little disgruntled. Maybe that reflects poorly on the coach. And maybe it doesn't, I have no way of knowing. Yeah, let's give each other for the criteria of respect. Sarah gets an A plus. He gets enough minus. Like, this is, this is easy, right? No, I mean, really legitimately, it's, I mean, it's, it's A pluses all the way around. If, if there was not, if it was not A pluses all the way around, we would not have been doing this together for as long as we've been doing this. There is, we, we make fun of each other. We were fun each other a lot. But we don't do that unless we respect each other. So I think we're, I think for me, I don't know how you guys feel for me. It's A pluses all the way around. I hope, I hope everyone's on the same page on that. I mean, I did, you just start me off with an F minus, but, you know, that's cool. That's cool. You know, I think you touched on a lot of the little four stuff. I think, yeah, the stuff coming out recently about the roles and everything.

20:38You got to think like, yeah, there are probably several of the Packers wide receivers that weren't happy with the roles. You can think Wix. You can think Golden. You know, you go to Roshan Gary, Nate Hobbs. Like, yeah, there were probably some disgruntled people on that team. And, you know, I forget where I saw it, but there was some article that was talking about how they were, they had to almost like, basically shame Roshan Gary into playing more of like, dude, you're not doing enough. And so, yeah, I mean, I think that'll be a fascinating storyline to see what he does in Dallas and what the motor looks like. And I mean, it wouldn't be shocking if he comes out and is tearing the roof off because he is motivated. And he does want to show that he's worth it and everything. So, yeah, I mean, I think he, he goes can really get in the way of this stuff. And so, I think that's a, that's probably a big thing in that LaFour Report card. So, I think that's a one way to look at it for sure. And then, yeah, like as much as we give each other crap about everything on this podcast, that is part of the stick and part of the fun of this is that

21:39we do have respect for each other that we can, that we can give it, can we give it to each other and then, you know, take it, take it as well. Like, nobody's coming off with hurt feelings of like, oh my god, does he actually meant that about me? Like, oh my god, I'm gonna, no, I think we, we all have a unbelievable amount of respect for each other. And, you know, these two have seen me through some of my darkest times and, you know, been supportive, been amazing friends outside the podcast. So, I've got nothing but good stuff to say about them for the most part. For the moment. Yeah, for the most part. Until Dossi pisses me off again. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm in this season where, you know, I'm planning a wedding and both of you guys are invited to a wedding. And if I didn't respect and love you, you wouldn't be there. So, that's kind of a good summary of like, yeah, it's, it's real and genuine. And like Steve said, like, we, we've all had moments and things that we've supported each other through. And it's just nice to know that there's never, ever, ever judgment. And it's, it's fun because it's,

22:46it's light. And sometimes there's a lot going on in our personal lives or things just feel really heavy in general. And then we come and do this. And it's just easy. It's funny. It makes me feel better, you know, every time after it, I'm in a good mood. So unless Steve's mean to me, of course, but, but that's again, that's, it's all out of love. So, so yeah, respect all time high. All right, next question is from Ed Stack. You are the Packers GM and you can only sign one more free agent this off season, which position group do you address? And then starts it cut pizza styles, which I think we've done before, but it's been so long that we couldn't even remember what our answers were. So here we go. Round two, maybe three. Who knows? Chicago, round deep dish, thin, New York crust, Detroit, rectangular, crispy crust. Steve, I feel like you're going to have strong opinions on this one. Yeah, we'll start with a pizza because I'm definitely looking up the free agents right now. I've got one in mind, but it's kind of, it's a little off the wall. So,

23:50we'll see. But I am going to start Chicago, deep dish, looking at this stuff that still lived in Chicago, still like when you get a really good one, it's just, it's outstanding. Very close second is going to be New York thin, thin crust. When you actually go out to New York, I've been out there once twice and that, yeah, getting a slice at an actual peteria in New York is outstanding. And then again, I'm not hating on Detroit, rectangular, crispy crust because it's very good. But again, those things are super filling. So kind of like that in the Chicago one. So that would be my go-to for those ones. And then as far as free agents go, I'm going to throw one off the wall and see what you guys think. But I already know what you thought of my Zach Wilson once could say, if he brings up Zach Wilson again, I swear to God. I thought that's where he was going to go with it. No, but it's just not, it's not a, it doesn't seem to be a super big position of need,

24:50but I think they could pull some value. Joanne Jennings, so a wide receiver for the 49ers, thought his market was going to be higher than it was. So he was hoping that in the 15, 20 million range, and I think it, you know, bringing in like a proven two would be a huge thing for his baggers. It might just disrupt some things again. But if they think they're going to move on from Wixler, if they're going to trade him, I think that might be a good signing, like a really solid, you know, wide receiver two to go with Watson Reed and Golden, like all of a sudden you're, you can, you can air it out, you can give the ball the Jordan love and let him sling it and have Josh Jacobs be, you know, one B out of the, for the offense. But I think that could be fun. Jennings are really good blocker too. And so with some of the tight ends stuff, you know, on the craft's going to be back. If you do run some more stuff out of 11, I think you could, between him and Wix, I think in Watson out there too, you could do some really good blocking on that. I had not thought of him, but I wouldn't be opposed. Again, I want Golden on the field more.

25:52So that maybe it was a wrench into that, but they'd be really, I think, I think Golden will be, it'll be, I think if they did bring him in, it'd be you'd start off with Golden Jennings in Watson in your three. Yeah. And then, you know, Wix is there. And then if somebody throws you an offer, if somebody gets hurt during the season, you're good to go, but gives you options. He'd fit it really well. He would fit it really well. If I can only send one more, I mean, there's positions you can grab. I would look at defensive lines. That's one I don't want. I mentioned the big citrus that everyone's kind of mocking to the packers. It's a big nose tackle. I can't remember where he's out of. I don't like that in the second round because a lot of those like those big, run-plugging bodies. You can find some of those guys. I don't like going into the draft with a need. And then in the second round, you're grabbing like a run-plugging nose tackle without a whole lot of pass rush upside. I prefer just to get one of those free agency guys like DJ Reader or Mike Pennell are both still out there that don't give you a whole lot of pass rush stuff, but can hold the point in the middle if that's which

26:53you're kind of looking for. So I would prefer, I mean, if they went after tight end or cornerback, also wouldn't say no, but defensive line, interior defensive line, just the kind of bodies they're looking for. I'd prefer like a cheap kind of older experienced guy over trying to reach in the draft. That doesn't sound good to me. So that's the way I would go. And then pizza styles. Man, I'm starting Detroit. I love me. I love Detroit style pizza. Sit in New York and cut Chicago because Chicago deep dish. I am not a fan of just do not like it. What would you think of Joey Bosa? He's just injured all the time. Like all the time injured. Like that's good, good pass rush stuff. But even like his pass rush stuff last year was not nearly as good. He had definitely fallen off. And he's just you you can back on him missing four to six games a year. And then another two games where he just clearly is like less than his self. So I don't know that at this point in his career, unless it's super, super cheap. I don't know that I would love that because then you're taking away snaps from Cerelle as well. Cerelle and you know Oliver perhaps if Oliver's going to see the field. So I'd prefer to see what those guys have.

27:56Yeah, I think you know, Ed rusher is one for me. You know, you obviously trade away Rashon Gary. What in embargo? And yes, you have Michael Parsons. Yes, you have Lucas Fanass who people are hoping. And I think we're all hoping it's going to take a leap. But it's still one where like would be nice to add some depth there. And maybe they could get someone at a decent price. But that's just one position group where, you know, obviously Michael Parsons is the guy, but who knows he's probably going to be out. I think they reported the first few weeks of the season. So I know Jeff Hathley joked at his media availability that he's hoping the dolphins travel up to Green Bay in week one because he said one of his favorite guys probably won't be ready to play by then, which I thought was pretty funny. But yeah, I just think that that's a group that they could address if they're able to in this kind of, you know, latter part of free agency, the soft season. And starts it cut starting New York, then Chris. I love thin crust pizza. That's my favorite.

29:01I'm always going to go for that and agree that if you can get it in New York, even better, but honestly, anywhere that has New York style pizza, that's where I'm going to go. Then I do like Detroit rectangular crispy crust a lot. And then I'm going to cut deep dish. Sorry, Steve. Last time we did this, I hadn't had it true authentic. I've had it. It's just not my favorite. I just like the other two better. All right, next questions from the DMs from Mike. I have a mailbag question. I have a hot tape that LVN is going to have a breakout season this year. We just talked about that. I know that Micah has talked about him and I just feel that he's ready to have an amazing season. How do you guys feel about him? Food questions. Starts it. Cut subs. Jersey Mike subway pub subs. Dusty. Is pub like public subs? Yeah, he knew what he was doing. He asked the questions to surprise you and give it to Sarah and not you. I think you guys might be surprised by my answer though. So all right. Okay. I mean, I don't know about breakout season. He

30:08looked good last year before he went down. He had been improving every year. LVN had been improving. The past or stuff like he just doesn't have a whole lot of like not a whole lot of moves and just the way he plays. He's kind of kind of stiff. Like he's strong and kind of fast, but he's like kind of what Rashon Gary, you kind of hope the best case of Rashon Gary with a better motor than Gary. And so I think there's something there. He holds up well at the point of attack against the run. Like holds the edge really well. I think there's something there. And we saw some of that. I just think he's going to be limited. So I don't know about be safe breakout. Is he going to clean up some parts and stuff? Yeah, probably. Is he going to disrupt a whole bunch of stuff? Man, probably not. I don't think he's going to do like it'd be a huge disruptor. I think he doesn't get the double digit sacks. Like I think he'll be fine. I want them. I would just like to pick up the fifth year option because I think he's shown enough to be like we want to see another year of this. I just it is that type of player. I think it's just just for me kind of limited and what you can do. It's kind of if you're going to do like that past rush stuff where you've got it's

31:10almost like a like a swoop and anvil. You've got you need a hammer on one side. You need a guy that can just disrupt on the other side. Vanessa is just that guy. He's like the anvil. He's the rock on the one side. That's probably not going to push too much. He's going to compress a little bit. But he's not going to win a whole lot. To me, that's like best case scenario for him. So I think he'll be good. I'm excited. I'm excited with what he showed last year before the injury. I just I guess it depends on what you think a breakout looks like. I don't think he's getting full sex or anything this year. I just think he'll be a solid good player, which is more than I thought he was going to be for his first couple of years. And to me, I think that's that's good enough. I think for for what they need. You hope guys like Sarah come along. You hope that Colin Oliver shows something. You hope that you know, Edge Cooper maybe takes another step on the use him a little bit more on the edge, stuff like that. So I'm not looking for a breakout. I'm just looking for a solid season of LVN. Starts it cut. Maybe it's just because I've had one more recently, but man, the that Buffalo pub sum. I'm going to start start pub sum. I'm going to sit Jersey mics. We've I've been to Jersey mics a few times. They're good. I have not been overly

32:13impressed. Like they're they're fine, but they have not like blown me away or anything. And I'm going to cut subway. That was subway was a go to for years and years and years. And I went to like when I went to Jersey Mike stuff like that. It was, oh man, this is this is what I was eating subway this whole time. I could have been having this other stuff. So, you know, subway, when it was like $5 foot long brother, I could crush those. That's a tremendous value, but it's it's not good. Now it's $9 for a foot long. Yeah, no, I'm good. I've never going back to it. Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm excited for LVN. I think he's shown enough promise that there is there's reason for, you know, for Mike's question. It definitely makes sense to me as to why he's excited about it. And if anybody's going to have a breakout year, you know, no rush on Gary, I mean, yeah, absolutely. I think he's got, he's got some, some pretty decent moves. And if he can, you know, continue to learn from like a Parsons and do that kind of stuff, yeah, he's got every potential to do it. And if they insert him in the starting role and he can stay healthy,

33:14I could see double digits acts. That wouldn't, that wouldn't be something that shocked me. So, yeah, I mean, I'm hopeful. I don't know if I'm going as far as like my hot take is that he's going to be great this year. I don't think I'm going to go that far. But I mean, I'm hopeful at this point that he can still still produce and still turn into what they had envisioned for him. And then starts it cut. So don't have a public surround me. So I never had like a grocery store pub sub by any means and never had Jersey Mike Caesar. So you're joking. Oh, Steve, what is going on? What is going on, dude? Maybe there is one that's, I think there's, I think it's a Jersey Mike's that's over there by a sky zone. We're taking the kids the sky zone tomorrow. So maybe I'll see if I can get Jersey Mike's way over there. Yeah, get Jersey Mike's and bring it on the way there. So I will, I will do that. So I mean, I do enjoy Subway, very plain and simple,

34:14ham, cheese, lettuce, and pickles with one line of mayo. Because if they, if I don't tell them one line of mayo, then it's like the entire thing is covered in mayonnaise and it's so gross. So I still enjoy Subway. I still do. But I will, I will report back. Maybe this is one of the things that I can actually eat and report back by, by after the draft. Yeah. I think this is neat. Oh, this is like the first time Sarah's fully judging me. I think. I think they need to go to have one. Yeah, they plus respect thing for Sarah. Is that, is that down a bit? I think with Elvian, I'm cautiously optimistic. What, why I'm still cautious is exactly what you said, Dusty, the words before you went down, that seems to be the theme. He can't say healthy at times and it's inconsistent because of that. So I think that the ceiling is really high, but he just hasn't had the opportunity to fully hit that yet because of injuries and it just, it just hasn't

35:15been the most ideal situation. So I think if he can stay healthy, if he's really in tandem with Micah once Micah's back and healthy too, then yeah, I think that there could be some really great things that we see from him this season. But I'm, again, cautiously optimistic is the best way that I can describe that. The reason I'm so repulsed by Steve never trying Jersey Mikes is because I'm actually starting Jersey Mikes. I love Jersey Mikes. We are a big Jersey Mikes household. We live right across the street from one like we love Jersey Mikes in the Keller Hewitt household. So starting that, sitting pub sub, pub sub is obviously amazing. What kind of bum Jersey Mikes above is the bread. The bread there is so good. And then cutting subway, I'm not a subway heater. Like there are some people who straight up won't eat it. I will eat subway. I actually like growing up. That was one of my like superstitious meals before soccer was this like very odd peculiar subway order. And I had it for many years. And I think I just like the other two better,

36:21but no hate. I'm going to skip around because based off Steve's response to this last question, I want to jump right to this question on Blue Sky for me. They said, I'm concerned about the frequency with which Steve admits he's never tried various foods. Should we start an adoptive Steve program where local listeners can take Steve to a restaurant and try new to Steve foods. Steve could then start a side pod called eating stuff. Who should his co-host be? So opinionated lab, I think this is an excellent idea as exhibited by Steve's responses today in this episode. I actually, when we were reviewing this question, I was like, no, Steve, I mean, I feel like we all haven't tried stuff. And then Dusty and Steve both reminded me of some recent incidences like crepes and others. And then this just didn't help. No, no, it's a pretty pretty bad mark against Steve here. It's not like we can even say, oh, like your opinion stinks

37:23because you don't like Jersey makes you just straight up don't even have an opinion because you've never had it. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I will say is that and my children are creeping in the episode now. Here we go. One was, oh, dude, if you have that cough, just get out of here. Awesome. I can't be your co-host for your eating stuff. I mean, maybe this should, yeah, maybe my daughter should be my co-host for eating stuff because I don't know how as much as I love all of our listeners, it seems like a date line story that is waiting to happen of going to meet random people off the internet to go eat food with them. And so, yeah, well, I don't think I'm going to start my own podcast. I've joked with these guys of, I've been talking about doing a solo podcast about uniforms for the Packers for like five to six years. And I just don't, I don't see myself with the production value or anything like that. I don't think it would

38:26be a good time as far as who my co-host would be. I think it'd be fun to do some of the Guy Fieri. I think that'd be a funny one. He'd bring some volume and some levity and all sorts of fun stuff and yeah, that'd be fun. So sure, you guys can get Guy Fieri then, yeah, yeah. We do have an on-air episode of Packers Snackers running around somewhere Steve. That's true. We do have that somewhere. Every once in a while, I forget that I still have that Twitter handle locked and loaded somewhere. Just in case. Never know. I think we, I think it all fell apart when I tried to get that one guy to make a, like, picture of us, like we said, they had two key people. They had two key people. They had two key people. Just the night twins. Like, he thought we were the same person. No, for most of it, it was, they had two people. It was a guy and a girl because they didn't think that we were different people. They thought it was just two people. And then I ran out of edits. It was on like five or something. So we paid, I paid like 10 bucks and he's like, yeah, is this good? And finally, I was like, I don't think this dude understands what I'm trying to say.

39:29So yeah, this is great. Thank you. Yeah, I was before AI though. I'm sure like you could put it into chat GPT and it could, it could fix it up for you. It's still going to think we're the same person. I got news for you Sarah. It's not going to fix anything. All right. Next question is from Dave Han. He said, hopefully all is clear now on how to answer his three parts or three sets, three part start sit cut question. So here we go. Start sit cut. Each three different sets of historic packers. First, defenders Julius Peppers, Charles Woodson, Reggie White, then receivers, Antonio Freeman, Dawn Drive, Richordie Nelson, and left tackles David Bocchiari, Chad Clifton, and Ken Rackers. Food question. What is your favorite fusion food? For example, something like a barbecue brisket quesadilla, which would be a fusion of barbecue and Mexican. So let's just, we'll kind of go through rapid fire, defenders, receivers, left tackles,

40:29and then we'll each take the food question. What I love about this is that it just starts sit cut. There's no like, who's your favorite? Who's the best? So we could all have very different ways that we get our answers. So, all right. Starts it cut defenders Dusty. Start Reggie White's at Charles Woodson, cut Julius Peppers. Steve. Same. Same. Okay. Well, there goes my pace over and approach different answers. All right, receivers. Steve. Start Antonio Freeman. Dusty. I'm sorry. I thought we were going to say water. I'm starting Antonio Freeman, sitting down on driver, cutting Johnny Nelson. It makes me sad to cut Jordi, but I just couldn't put them above either of those two guys for me. I'm actually going to start Jordi Nelson, sit Antonio Freeman, cut down driver. Okay. I just, I love Jordi. He was just so multi-talented, and yeah, what is the,

41:34you're kids holding a sign of up your head that says poop, and it's an arrow pointing to you. He nailed it. Nailed it. Nailed it. Is it bedtime now, kid? No. I was just like, I was like, I'm going in depth on Jordi Nelson. I'm like, why is Sarah like, why is her face so close? That's the placement of the arrow pointing directly at the top of your head was perfect. Well, it was also just, I'm like, what does it say? And then it just saying poop with an arrow towards you is perfection. That's the execution there. Okay. Steve, reset your answer since we got distracted. Yeah. Jordi, start Jordi, sit Freeman and cut driver. All right. I'm going to start Freeman, sit Jordi, cut driver. I just like, I should probably cut Jordi, but it's just nostalgia, and I love them too much. So he's got to at least make the team. And then left tackles Dusty. Start Clifton, sit Boktiari, cut records. Same. All right. And I'm going Boktiari, Clifton,

42:41records. So pretty, pretty close there. All right. Then food question. What's your favorite fusion? Fused fusion food. That's a tongue twister. I'll go first. I think mine is Latin and Asian, any restaurant that I go to that mixes those two. There's a place in Orlando that's Latin Asian fusion. And they have this fried rice. It's like a Peruvian fried rice. And it has this garlicky white sauce. It's like a side that you could order. And I could probably just get like five of those and eat it because it's that good. And I've gotten carne sada from there. Delicious, done perfectly. So that without a doubt would be my favorite blend of flavors. We'll be right back. I went with a very specific food because I was not thinking of like just actual like, what I like about the different groups and mixing. I was just thinking like this one specific

43:42food. I have never stopped thinking about it. It's the best burger I ever had. And it was a hamburger. And they had chorizo in with the with the ground beef is like prime proud beef with chorizo. And it's topped with pico de gallo. So it's like, I don't know. I guess American Mexican fusion. It's been three years since I ate that burger. And I think about it every single day. Yeah, that's fair. I would say fusion wise, I don't really go too crazy, but I know that's shocking to everybody. Have you ever eaten fusion food at all here? Yeah, yeah, I've had fusion. Nothing, nothing like stands out. But I think a lot of the times of stuff that I'll get is normally like Japanese Korean fusion. So like it kind of blends of Asian stuff. The other thing that Dusty kind of reminded me of there was a there was a burger that was like a brisket burger. So I mean, I don't know how you can say that fusion, but you know, you normally don't see brisket on burger. So the brisket burger was

44:43outstanding. But now I'm getting really hungry. This isn't okay. All right, last couple questions here. Next questions from the Wizard of Loneliness. What is your most unhinged way the Packers could legally raise revenue to make up for their lack of ability to sell shares of the team? And then what is your most unhinged but legal food take? Steve, you've been on a roll with these food takes. So I'm going to give you the floor. So as far as for the Packers generating money, maybe in during the off season or during the week, they could they could make a portable bedroom and that's closed off and everything. And people, I'm sure there's about a 10,000. No, let them finish there. 50,000 dudes that would pay to to have relations with their wives online both here. What is this? What is this? Actually, it's consensual. It's between the man and his wife.

45:44I think we should cut that, Dusty. Can you write that down? Come on. That's like the best idea ever. They could make money. You said you wanted it to be a weird episode. There you go. I think like, I mean, Dusty's been left close to speechless. I think this is the first time I've actually seen him straight up speechless. Like he just is covering his mouth. He said legal. He said legal. He's like, try it a couple times and he literally cannot even utter. He's like, let him cook, sir. Just let him. And then he regretted it as soon as he shouldn't have said to let him continue. You're like the meme where the person's cooking in the kitchen and they put too much oil and just everything catches on fire. That's just what happened, right? Yeah, except it's me watching someone that don't trust cooking. That's the problem. And I was like, no, maybe this time he'll lay on the plane and he didn't. The plane is never landed by me, Dusty. You have to know that by now. And then what's the other question about food? Do you even want me to answer this question?

46:47You're done, Steve. What's your most unhinged but legal food take? Unhinged but legal food take. All right, Steve, you unfortunately have to answer the second part of this question now. I'm scared. I'm trying to think of stuff like it can't be the same as the first. It can't just be a variation. Well, that's not a food take. That was just a money making opportunity. I don't think I've got an unhinged food take. I mean, I'll think about it while you guys answer Steve, anything triggers my mind, but I can't really think anything at the minute. All right, most unhinged way the Packers could legally raise revenue. Someone pays money every week to play it down for the Packers and they get to pick. They've got to be, it's got to be somewhere you can be slightly hidden, I think, but like I want to just like a rich 60 year old dude just getting lit up at defensive line. Just give me that. And he paid $2 million to do it. So you're raising revenue. So I think that's I think that's something she should consider. I read

47:50Clinton's paper line recently, which is different because he was like a journalist and he kind of went through the training and everything. So it's kind of borrowing from that idea. But saying basic things, someone pays money, they get to be on the field, they get to play a play. Probably during pre-season, probably have to be during pre-season, so that doesn't count. You don't want that to happen during a regular game, regular season game. And I have to sign all kinds of waivers in case they don't say that. What's the insurance looks like on that? Oh, they got a waif, they waive their insurance. But they can't, there's nothing they, you know, that that's just they're paying, they're put their risk on, all the waivers are signed. And it's at least $2 million, I think. So it's got to be you're raising money. If you want to be pre-season, listen, if we're getting nuts with this, if you want to pre-season, it's it's whatever like 10,000 bucks, you want to do 10,000 bucks. I feel like two millions light. And you're switching people out every single, every single down. So on a pre-season game, buy a report in the third pre-season game, you're just, it's all kinds of fans. Just entering. It's 10,000 bucks a pop, really. So everybody knows that was a whoopee cushion that was secured at the arcade today.

48:50No, what is it? Nailed it. Nailed it. My unhinged illegal food take is I think if you're those that Jersey makes in your area, and you've not been to eat it, you should be beaten with bamboo rods. Okay. Dang it. That's so specific. Why was it so specific? So it wants me beaten with it. My in Singapore, what the hell? I don't know. Is there a Jersey, Mike's in Singapore? Because maybe, Steve, maybe. I went kind of a similar route as Dusty, like purchase and experience sort of thing. Well, I guess Steve's is an experience. Yeah, he's a different kind of experience. But experience that aligns within the operations of the season. Like people are always saying that like the reporters suck and that like they could cover the team and that they would like get the information. So I feel like you could pay like a golden ticket to get like a media credential where you get

49:51some sort of access to pressers. I don't think that they would allow it for the games. Like it just wouldn't work because they are on such a strict schedule. But you know, like if the floor has an availability and there's just like John Smith from Milwaukee that comes up and like can ask questions, I feel like people would pay so much money because they think it's like anyone could do it and all of that and that that would be a way. There would probably be a wait list to do it because so many people. I think that would be asked after one question. Yeah. Well, if they paid enough money, then they might keep doing it. And then most unhinged but legal food take. I don't think I have one either. I don't say it does these even legal. Well, I'm getting beaten because I have a need in food. Oh, no, it was the theoretical, not you. Oh, not just someone who hasn't had Jersey Mike's that could have it. Is that you get the shoe fit? Yeah, it's not my fault. Listen, it's not my fault. That's you, Steve. No names were named.

50:52So if you think that applies to you, yeah, that's a good dark turn. All right, next question is from his soda, I think from Blue Sky. Jadarian Price, who's running back Eli Stowers to tight end, and a handful of water seabirds look like they could be offering the best position, slash tier value at number 52. Do you think the Packers will initiate an all-out ban rebellion and go running back tight end or by receiver at 52? Steve, do you want to even answer? Because I know you're on no draft mode. I mean, I feel like I can do this one sense. It's not actually asking about the players and everything. It would not surprise me if they if they went running back tight end wide receiver. If there was somebody on their board that was higher than a defensive lineman or cornerback or something along those lines, I wouldn't be shocked at all. That we've seen them plan for the future by using premium picks on running back for AJ Dillon

51:54when they had somebody already in line, and that one didn't work out, but wouldn't shock me at all if Goody took that swing again. But do you think there'd be a fan rebellion if they took one of those positions? There's going to be a fan rebellion no matter who they picked. That's true. Yeah, I mean, I think tight end is the only one where like I don't think there'd be a fan rebellion because it is Rooms then. I think everyone knows like Kraft is, you know, who knows when he's going to be back. Hopefully beginning of the season, but I'm not sure. Musgrave, I think most fans do not like Musgrave. Wiley was kind of like a wild card last year. So I feel like a tight end would be like, I think most fans would be on board with a tight end. If it was running back or wide receiver, I do think the response would be overwhelming and negative. Not that I would think that's terrible, but I don't think fans, the overall fan base would be a fan of wide receiver or running back. Yeah, I think the fan bases would implode a little bit. I did talk about, you know, on the Ohana Packers podcast that Guderian Price is a good pick for the Packers, but I don't think at 52.

52:57Like I think if he falls and he's still available or maybe they trade up a little more for him in a future round, then he could be a good pick. But I think if they, unless there starts to be a big rotten at running backs, which this class is pretty top heavy. So if they really want to target that position group and all of them start going and he's available there, that's a scenario. I could see it, but I don't think that's like plan A for the Packers at all. All right, next question from Mike. I've turned my girlfriend into a de facto Packers fan just by being obsessed. She loves to joke that she's going to root for the Bears though. If you had a divided family, how would you convince someone to root for the Packers and not another team? Steve. I don't think my answer is going to be a fun one, but there's really not going to be convincing it. Like if you're having to convince somebody, you kind of, you kind of got to let that naturally come to be. Like if you try to force this Packers fandom up upon somebody, most of people are going to fight against it. I'd be like, oh, you want me into

54:02cheer for this team? Well, maybe it'll be more fun to cheer against you and cheer for the Bears and Lions or God forbid the Vikings. But yeah, I think it's hard to really push that and you know, convince somebody of it. Like so my best suggestion would be to kind of set up pushing them is just you know, continue to talk about them at the Packers in a positive way that you why you like them, what you like about them, why you like the team, all that kind of stuff and show them the fun, like show them the interactions that you can have with there are plenty of positive Packers fans on Twitter. So like talk about show them some of that and things on those lines. But yeah, if you're going to try to force somebody into it, it's most likely to me. I don't think that's something that ever works. Depending on what team they're a fan of, I would maybe slip some some unflattering headlines about the owner or GM, you know, just around the house. They, you know, they they get some coffee in the morning and under the mug. It's like, well, Jerry Jones said what? You know, something like that poise in the well a little bit for the team that they love. But really it would just be a very much a, I'm enjoying myself washing the Packers

55:08and maybe that enjoyment will end up rubbing off on them and they will come join me. If they don't, it doesn't really matter. That's fine either way. I would like, I would like my kids, I would like everyone of my family to be Packers fans. My older brother's a Patriots fan and we got along just fine. So ultimately, like, unless they're going to be terrible about it, I don't really have strong feelings about it. I don't think both of my kids have sense kind of adopted the Packers. My brother's got, or my youngest, my son has a, a JL Exander Jersey, big Jair fan, had to break it to him that he's no longer with the team. That made him sad, but still a Packer's fan, and my daughter loves him as well. So I don't have to, my wife doesn't care about football, even single bit. So I don't have to convince anyone, but I don't think I'd have to, I'd do a whole lot to try to do that. Yeah, I think that the Packers two are, they have such a rich history, that if you appreciate sports in general, or just really cool traditions, that you could get anyone to just respect what it is to be a Green Bay Packer, and just playing at Lambo Field,

56:17and the special community that is Green Bay, and how it's so different, and that, you know, there isn't an owner, and that it's owned by the fans, and I just think if you're a sports fan, it's one of those teams that you don't have to even like it, or love it, but you're like, wow, the tradition of that is really cool. And even if you're not a sports fan, and you explain this to someone like, this is why it has value, I think anyone, most people would be able to see that, you know, I have friends who are huge fans of other teams, 49ers, bucks, but all of them say that at some point it's on their bucket list to go to Lambo Field and see a game. I don't think that most teams can say that about the team that they're, or most people can say that about the team that they're a fan of, that people just want to like randomly go see a game there because of all the history and because of all the tradition. So I think that that's something that Packer fans definitely should use to their advantage, because it is a special team and it's a very, very special

57:21place as we all know. All right, last question before the break. Is there a realistic free agent player you see Green Bay signer trading for prior to the draft? We talked about this a little bit. Steve, I know you gave an answer. Dusty, I don't know if you want to give a specific name and then starts it, cut, practice squad. So we got four options here, romcoms, mean girls, fifty-ford states, how to lose a guy in 10 days, 10 things I hate about you. Steve, any other comments on the non football or on the football question before you hit the non football one? Yeah, one of the, the only other one that I was thinking about too as far as realistic, because I don't know, I honestly don't know how realistic to why Jennings is, but Jadavian Clowney would be a name that would intrigue me. You know, he's getting up there a little bit. The other one was outside linebackers for the Broncos and then for the Bills and can't think of his name right now. He's

58:25getting up there though. He's like 37 years old, Von Miller. That was the other one. So, you know, maybe just somebody like that, like we're an established veteran that's not going to be in all the time, but can use them for pass rush. A couple things like that would be something to go with, I would say. And then starts it, cut, practice squad. This is tough one, but I will start mean girls. I do love that movie. We did kind of joke around if that was a romcom or not, but you know, she ends up with a guy at the end. So that's like, that's like a romcom, I would say. Then I would sit 10 things I hate about you, cut how to lose a guy's in 10 days and practice squad 51st days. I like, I do like Adam Sandler, but the combo of him and Drew Barrymore is a bit too much for me. So like, I do enjoy Drew Barrymore, but she can be a little bit nail on a chalkboard for me. We'll be right back. Yeah, I went. I mean, DJ Reader, I mentioned a couple other names would be David and Joku for

59:30tight end. Like he has not been signed yet. Again, getting a little older, but he's been a nice receiving option who can block. And I think a fit and walnut and with the packers. So maybe that price tag isn't quite as high as maybe it look like it was going to be. So we found with that. I mean, Trondiggs is the name right now. I don't know that he's going to turn in anything. His best days, even his best days were, I think, a little bit smoke and mirrors. Those days might be behind him, but there is that picture posted of him working out with Michael Parsons. And he's wearing his packers gear there. So I think that's certainly, I would say that certainly on the table will be Trondiggs. And it's an area of need. So I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on a guy like that if they want to do that. Starts to cut. Yeah, I honestly, I almost put practice squad mean girls, because it doesn't feel like a chick flick to me or a chick romcom. Sorry, but I decided not to. So it's, I mean, start. It's 10 things ahead about you with a bullet starting. That movie is just absolutely dynamite. I'm going to sit mean girls. I'm going to cut how to lose a guy in 10 days and practice squad 51st date. So Steve, the exact same as you only

1:00:32have flipped mean girls and 10 things ahead about you. I will say if it was wedding singer instead, 51st dates, that's a much harder decision at the top. Wedding singer. Absolutely. If we're looking at a Sandler Barrymore thing, wedding singer rules, 51st dates is one of those. I don't mind, but it's not nearly on that level. Yeah, I, one of my favorite romcom or I think it might be my favorite romcom ever is how to lose a guy in 10 days. I just something about that movie. I just have a soft spot for it. I love it. So starting that, sitting mean girls is not a romcom in my opinion, but I love mean girls so much that I would sit it, cut 10 things ahead about you, which I hate doing that because I love that movie too. And then practice squad 51st dates kind of for the same reason that you said, Dusty, I just, I think that I could swap it out for there's so many movies that are like that, like same type of movie, different font sort of vibe that I think I would switch out and still like it better. So that's that. All right. Well, thank you to everybody who sent in

1:01:37questions for our kind of final hurrah before our break. It looks like we're going to have final thoughts from Steve first featuring a special guest. Yeah. So this is my daughter, she wanted she wanted to help out and be on the podcast. So here you go, kid. What do you have to say to the world about the Packers? I like the packer and pooping me. There we go. Exactly. Yep. That's if you have an 11 year old, you know exactly what's up. Perfect. Perfect. But no, again, thank you guys for listening all the time. We absolutely love it. Appreciate all the questions, everything. So while we take this break, just a huge shout out and thank you to all the guys that always sending questions, Brian, Dave, Ed, I'm forgetting a whole bunch of them right now because I didn't have a phone of Matt. Yeah, a whole bunch of everybody who always sends in questions, huge shout out, huge thank you to you guys for that. Matt, that was not on purpose. I swear, I promise I wasn't leaving you out on purpose. I just don't have I can't

1:02:40scroll through my phone quick enough to get through everybody who does it. So thank you guys for for always sending questions, always participating in it. As we said before, the show doesn't work without you guys and wanting to know what you want to hear about. So thank you. Yeah, for me, I got some stuff. I have written am writing. So I'm continuing my call sheet series. I'm working on third and long where I'm going through what the Packers did in 2025. I've got diagrams, clips, all that stuff. So kind of analyzing how they did in a specific area against however, what else did an explosive rate and all that stuff. So third and long, I'm working on now. Hopefully that'll be out later this week. I also started a series. I got two parts of it now over on. So that's on acupacking this call sheet series over my sub stack, which is just dustively.substack.com. I think it's still that. I started doing a football primer thing. How do people ask me about like kind of general football terminology and stuff that like sometimes I take for granted that like, well, I know this and then try to explain it, but just too far down the rabbit hole at a certain point. So first part is up now. Actually, first two parts are up. First part was on kind of personnel, the numbering system for personnel and then formations. So different

1:03:44kind of like formation jargon that you will hear. What is trips, what's tray, what is bunch, what's clamp, all of the like all of the stuff that you will hear either on a broadcast or on a podcast, something like that. I tried to kind of take the bigger things and give some diagrams and say that that's what this is. When you hear that, that's what this is. In the second part, I just came out this past weekend, which is run game basics. Inside zone, duo, wide zone, power trap, just kind of again, like how the diagrams of kind of how that stuff looks when you hear that stuff, what is actually being talked about? It's selfishly it's a place for me to kind of put that stuff. So when I talk about other places, I always have a link back to it. So I don't have to like fully explain that every single time, but also is something that I know as we get further down this kind of football rabbit hole and more people kind of start talking the same way. It's easy to get lost in that if you don't know what people are talking about. I've had people who will DM me and like they're too embarrassed to ask because I feel like they should know it and you shouldn't feel like you should know it because a lot of this is like it's just it's stuff that people have

1:04:47kind of just taken on over time, but it's not something everyone knows. I'm trying to kind of distill that down and like these building blocks of football. So I'm hoping to have next one up later this week on probably RPOs and we'll do passing game and stuff like that. So I don't know how long it's going, but it's just kind of if you want to learn more about the game and learn more about it in the terms that like other people are using and if you feel lost, it's this football primer series. I got two of those parts up now. So I'm excited and with the you know the draft stuff and being out doing all the draft stuff, I've got more time to work on that this year. So like Steve said, man, thankful for everyone who sends in the questions, thankful for everyone who listens to us. We all be back in a month and a half and I'm really looking forward to learning from all of the very smart people I'm packet of the bringing on instead of us. So I'm excited to see what this goes. Yeah, echo everything that the two of you have already said, be our excited to take a break, not because we don't want to see each other and talk to each other every week, but just because it's an opportunity for other people to provide more content about things that we're not

1:05:50as knowledgeable about. And like Dusty mentioned, it's an opportunity for us to learn too. I know I'll be I tune in every year because this is kind of my like crunch time to understand more about the draft and it's a nice few weeks leading up to it. And then I feel like when I'm watching the draft, I'm like, okay, yeah, I have an idea based off what some of the really smart people are saying of what could happen. So definitely, you know, obviously, keep listening to Packaday. There's some great people who are going to be providing some really awesome draft coverage, but there is just so much, you know, we always talk about that. We are lucky that we have the wealth of content and of all sorts, you know, reading videos, podcasts, whatever it is about the Packers. So definitely, you know, if you need recommendations, hit us up, let us know and we'll be back in a month and we're appreciative of each and every one of you for listening. And we've had some really good ideas based off your questions banked for for the, you know, the dead of the off season this summer. So

1:06:53make sure, you know, continue to listen to the show, follow the show at Packaday podcast. You can follow each of us at Sarah Keller for at Dusty Evli and at Steve Perhatch. We'll see you in May. And as always, go Packaday.