OSU Insider-Should Ohio State Fire Jake Diebler??

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2:07Also, for those who don't always do YouTube, go to Apple. Apple people, save us for Apple podcasts, non-Apple people, go to spreeker.com and save us there. We're going to be talking about the Ohio State game. The Ohio State Falls, the TCU today. Tough game. We're going to talk about it. Obviously, a lot of chatter about Jake DiBler's future. We're going to talk about that as well. But also, when you send those wonderful super chats, it helps to go towards the pay it forward, which is our military and our first responders. We're going to look out for them because they always look out for us. Nevada Book Brother. Brother, brother, brother. What's up, man? I'm sad, Mike and I lie. I'm sad that we lost today. We lost again that we probably shouldn't have lost, but we lost it nonetheless. And it's just sad. I'm also sad because this is probably the last basketball show that we're going to do for 2026. From here on out, we're just going to be

3:12football, football, football, which is great, which I love talking about. But the butt guy season ended a little too prematurely for me today. And just sad. You being the ex-great player that you were. I'm more interested in your thoughts initially because I've read the Twitter verse and the Ohio State fan base on the board thought. And for some reason, you know who's going to allow the ire who's catching a lot of the flack of the game? Is Christophe Tilley for some reason, which is I find absolutely bizarre because I actually thought he played pretty good today. And you know, I mean, other than Mollby, who clearly was our best player, I thought Tilley might have been our second or at least third best player. But for some reason, he's just catching straight from him. And I just wondered when you were watching the game, were you thinking, wow, Christophe Tilley is killing us or did your thoughts go elsewhere? Well, I mean, the hope the first half was bad. And so Christophe Tilley, Christophe Tilley played his

4:17part in the bad first half. Was he the worst on the on the floor? No. But he was being goofy. And he was being a little soft around the rim, which is something he does. I think he's an okay player. He has some skill for his size. But man, it's just like he needs to play bigger. He needs to be more physical consistently. And I think that's some of the people's complaint about Tilley, finishing around a rim stronger. To me, he's too hesitant. It's just like do like. But he is who he is. He average 11 points a game this year. And he scored 10 today. He averaged four rebounds a game and he had six. He averaged two assists. He played better in the second half. He played better in the second half. I'll give you that. I mean, I mean, you know, I just I just feel like like man, you're looking for super villains in this game. It's it's hard to look at somebody who who overachieved over their season averages as the problem for the game. Like I felt the refs were letting them play an extremely physical game in the first half. And I didn't think

5:22that a nerd doe house they'd benefit. I think they let, you know, they let TCU get away with a lot and then at the end of the game, there were some. I felt marginal calls that they called, you know, one, we were up three and they called a three point play. I'm barely any contact and all they said is a little incongrued. But yeah, no, I mean, I agree. Yeah, I think I said, Tilly, I mean, to me, I thought the story of the game, you lose a two point game. You have the all-time leading score in the history of Ohio State basketball. Who averages 20 points a game. And he has one basket in the second half of a game where you're down 15 and a half time. Now that is a problem right there. That is an issue. You can't shoot 33% from the field and score 10 points. One of the all-time leading score in Ohio State history in a game. And, you know, I'm Bruce Thornton. I couldn't, I mean, I don't know, was that his worst game ever at Ohio State? Maybe. No. I mean, he picked the peculiar, I mean, there's never been a bigger game that he's

6:24played worse. You know what I'm saying? Because I mean, there you go. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, he's the all-time leading score in school history. The all-time leading score. And he shot 33% from the field and had one basket in the second half. I mean, I don't, but we're talking about Kristoff Tilly. I don't know. I'm just confused, to be honest with you. No, let me be clear. I don't agree with the take that Tilly is the number one guy. Oh, Tilly. I don't agree with that. I think he could have played better in the first half. Like, but that's just a carry-over complaint from me. I like Tilly, but I don't love Tilly because of the stuff I already mentioned. But that's not the first person I'm calling out is Tilly. I agree. Now, let's get to Bruce Thornton. And we'll just talk about the game. So obviously, you could see the game plan from TCU. This is nothing new. I mean, teams like all through the schedule, Blitz, Bruce Thornton, double shading. This thing about it, we mostly talk about football.

7:28So who are you football people? Just look at it as a rolling coverage, right? Rolling coverage over to Jeremiah Smith's side. Think about it like that. If you don't know basketball that well, it's like when Bruce Thornton gets the ball to top of the key, they were keying on him. When he would penetrate, they would shade over. It was like a diamond like following him around. If you look at what TCU was doing, the game plan was to take away Bruce Thornton and make the rest of the guys beat you. That was the game plan. So with that said, to your point, Nevada, it's tough. You don't want to force things and basically plan to the hands and turn the ball over and try to do too much. But you also have to be very, very aggressive when you're when that, when you pick your spots, when there's a hole or when there's a weakness or there's a lane, you have to attack. And when you attack, you have to know how to attack. And this is what I mean.

8:28I think Bruce got frustrated. He was very frustrated. He was frustrated. When he did have opportunities later in the game, to me, he made the incorrect play that he normally doesn't make. He's very smart. Like going into the body of punch instead of pulling up for that little 10-foot shot that he can hit so well, he tried to go in and just got swallowed up by punch. And so the the game plan frustrated Bruce Thornton. We didn't come out with the same energy. We didn't come out with the same physicality. TCU played like they've been in the tournament recent like they have. They've been in the tournament in the recent years. We have it. We came out like we, you know, like the stage was big. Now, obviously, we adjusted and we settled down and we were right in the game, but that's always hard to overcome that when you're coming out like that. And so it was a lot of the same stuff I saw all year Nevada, but we were able to still fight back, but it just wasn't enough, man. But yeah, to your point, Bruce Thornton,

9:30and let me say this last thing because I loved Bruce Thornton. And I was talking to my guys who came by earlier watching the game. Bruce Thornton is a great kid. He's a really good basketball player. He has skill and talent, but I think today showed why. Yes, he's the leading score because he's been here for four years. He's been consistent. Great kid. He stayed with a house date, but he's not he's not Michael Red. He's not Mike Conley. He's not Jim Jackson. He's just not to that level because again, even with that attention on him, yes, be patient. Get it to your guys, but you've got to be aggressive and still take over and still overcome that. If you're an elite, like Elite Hooper Hooper, Nevada, go ahead. I know you want to jump in. Well, I mean, like there's so many things to say. I know enough about basketball from having played not at the highest levels, but played a lot of basketball in my life. And having coach

10:31not at the highest level, the coach a lot of basketball in my life, that it was evident from like the first couple of possessions that Bruce would literally pick up his dribble 30 feet away from the basket and stop and look and then he would go stand in the corner. They had completely buffalo and at that point, as the head coach, you have to take the ball out of his hands. You have to. And I'm screaming the whole first half. I'm like, get, let mobility, let mobility run the offense. Do not get the ball out of his hands. You know, and the fact that it took an entire half on something that I literally recognized at 1733 to go in the first first half, it took it. Once we switched to mobility, we erased a 15 point deficit and went to a five point lead. That's a 20 point swing. I don't understand how something that's so obvious took him so long to figure out. I'm really struggling with it. If somebody's going to take something away from

11:36you, then they're leaving something else open. You don't just keep going into the teeth of that over and over and over again, because clearly the authority didn't have it, whether he was frustrated, buffaloed, covered, whatever was going on. Hey there, it's Ryan Seacrest for safe way. It's stock up savings time. Now through April 2nd, spring in for store-wide deals and earn four times of points. Look for in-store tags to earn on eligible items from Lindor, Chip Sohoi, Gatorade, Post, Ziploc, and Zoa. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event-long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy, drive up and go, pick up or delivery. Restrictions apply. See website for full-terms and conditions. It's tax season and by now I know we're all a bit tired of numbers, but here's an important one you need to hear, $16 billion. That's how much money and refunds the IRS flagged for possible identity fraud. Here's another one. One in four honest,

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13:41I think I saw Billboard years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows, so the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. It's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open or call centers always waiting to take your call. 24, 7365. Wow, Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan and America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. Yeah, I mean, I just, he couldn't beat anybody off the dribble. And I saw how I say, I'm like, why are we slowing the game down? Why are we having Bruce Thornton's out there just dribbling to nothing to eight down on the clock and then running some hurried set and getting some crappy shot up. And you know, you know what I'm saying? I'm like,

14:44man, we have got to attack the rim and I have people saying, oh, we don't attack or how state doesn't it? We don't that's not what we plan. I'm like, you have to play that way. You cannot let this TCU defense set up against you when you've got the ball. I mean, Bruce Thornton's got to be able, because he's not the biggest guy. He's not Evan Turner. He's not, you know, he's not six foot six. So you've at least got to be able to beat somebody off the dribble. So if you've got the thing, you've got to be able to create something. I don't think he beat somebody off the dribble a single time today, not not once. I don't think he beat somebody off the dribble. And that just created all sorts of problems for everybody else on the inside. Nobody else is getting open inside. And frankly, once we switched them all, though, everything switched and I just don't understand why Jake Debra, who I like Jake Debra, I want Jake Debra to be successful. How can you go that long and not see what is obvious to everyone needed to be changed? How can he go that long without adjusting? Yeah. And I've seen it. He did. He adjusted, but it was later. Like you

15:46said, I saw him starting to bring Bruce off ball and trying to run him through screens and sets to get him loose. Instead of him bringing a ball up court, but it was later. And so I think to ask you a question, I'm not saying this right, but you're thinking he's seen this before. He's your best player. Let him work through it. Let him make, you know, good decisions through it and and press through it. And that's what I think Debra was thinking. But it just obviously, it just, it didn't work well. But yes, running the offense through Moby was better, you know, as far as the flow of the offense and getting things going. But not just that, I mean, we turned the ball over seven times in a first half. And it just was conky. We didn't look in rhythm. TCU looked in rhythm. Now again, to their credit in a second half, they stepped up, started playing much better. You know, started matching that physicality. TCU got a little cold and whatnot, but just came

16:50up short. We can, honestly, bro, we can talk about, unless you got more to say about that, we can talk about what everybody's talking about, which is that last 4.3 seconds left. And what happened on that play? And I mean, that was, that was rough. That was frustrating. First of all, shout out to Dev before we get into that Nevada. I agree with you, Dev. He mentioned in the group track, the group chat, that you can't give up that position. Now, Biden was a freshman. He's a pretty big physical kid. And that TCU kid is no, no slouch. But I agree. You can't let him get that deep in the paint. I thought we played good defense on punch on that play. But that TCU kid was white. He was established deep in the paint. And at that point, I'm just, I'm glad Biden didn't foul him. But that was just tough, man. Nevada, what you got? Well, you know, yeah, I mean, would I like to have seen Biden, you know, play a little bit or defense on that? Yeah, but I, you know, I just thought it was a good play by TCU.

17:52I mean, he was able to wall him off and look, they got a, they got a great shot in that situation. I just, again, from a coaching standpoint, when you're looking at the clock and you see that there's going to be about a four or four and a half second difference. But if they run it down to the very end, which they did credit to TCU, but given the rules where you can't advance the ball, I'm telling, I'm telling my guys, you've got to get the ball in balance and you've got to get the ball across half court and then we call the time out. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, anything you do, you've got to get the ball into the front court and then you call the time out. I think, but again, that's, that's the kind of, and that's, this isn't a second guess. This was something I was saying the number's 30 seconds when TCU was setting up their shot. I'm like, you've got to anticipate that and you've got to tell them the guys, look, when this happens, you know, if they score, get it into the front court, let's call time out, let's get something set up. Let's run a play. He was obviously what they were doing. They're coming in high to Tilly. He was going to go back to Thornton and Thornton was going to try to run down and hit kind of an Evan Turner, you know, jumper. But, you know, there's not a lot of great plays when you can't

18:59advance the ball to mid court with 4.3 seconds ago. So as much as people want to be mad, I don't, I'm not as mad at him for that play, but I think the setup to that could have been better, you know, which goes to the whole day. I felt like the entire day, I didn't feel like we came out with the right kind of intensity. I didn't feel like we came out with the right kind of defense. I didn't feel like we came out playing the type of game that we really needed to play in order to win, you know, and incidentally, you know, game. It's literally the first game of the tournament and we're out already. And it just, you know, to me, I thought that everyone of Jake DiBler's deficiencies were on display today as a head coach. And I think his inexperienced showed. And, you know, for me, who's been somebody who's been, you know, pretty much on the, you know, definitely, I think we got to give DiBler more time. Now I'm, I'm not sure. I'm really, I think to me, it really depends on who might be available as a potential thing because I,

20:03I just, I thought that some of the mistakes he made were just so rudimentary that it really has, it has me questioning, you know, his abilities head coach. Maybe that's fair. Maybe that's unfair, but that's where I'm at. Now I hear you. Here's the last play. So I think you nailed it to where it's 4.3 seconds and the ball's not advanced. So I was kind of tripping to myself like, some of these takes on, oh, they drew that up. I mean, there's not much you can do. I mean, we've seen it. We've seen team score from this. I mean, it was, it had to be executed perfectly. You know, you got a guy, I would have gave it to Moby in this situation. I think he's faster than a Bruce Thornton and he's a better distant shooter. Like, I would, if you're going to draw that up, I would have drew it up for Moby. Not only that, but the other team is looking for your senior,

21:06your all-time leading scorer to get the ball. And you see, there's two guys on them. And so, I don't know. That's just me. But yes, I agree that, and I don't want to even say the hindsight, but knowing what's coming, knowing you only have one time out left, just signal to your guys, that should be something you do in practice in that situation. That would have gave them a better chance to come off the screen and get a clean look for three. Or even throw it down low to get a foul or something. But yeah, man, I knew when this happened, it was a rap barring a miracle, but unfortunate. Now, as far as what you said about Debler, yeah, I mean, here's the thing I said this before. I don't think Jake Debler is a bad coach. I think he can be a very good coach. I think he might have been brought into early. I think he's a guy that probably would have had been in a better situation success-wise. Maybe

22:11if he was brought in three years after the hope, and like he went to a max school, cut his teeth, came back. He was retained. I think the brass saw that he was good with the kids. He's a good coach. He's bright, but today probably show, like you said, his efficiencies, that he's still learning. And so, you know, but also, I do not want to discount the fact that I'm not going to act like Jake Debler went into this tournament with a deep roster and a fully loaded NIO clip and all the other stuff. If they're going to keep him, they need to make sure they provide him with everything he needs to get players on this roster. Period. Now, I told you all, I just want Buckeye basketball to be elite. I want Buckeye basketball to compete for championships like under that motto, you know, like how we were consistently, sweet 16 or, you know, like in the tournament, elite, that's what I want. If that's getting rid of Debler, okay, but who are we going

23:18to get? And that's not a question saying we shouldn't. I'm just saying it better be somebody good. We better put the full resources that we have for this basketball program behind them. Period. I don't care who it is. Debler or somebody else, that's something we need to step up with is making sure we put more intentional emphasis into this program, because I want to be fair. Debler is, you know, he may, he's made mistakes. He may be early into his blessing and arrived a little early, but let's not act like he's had the full support and had a full, you know, deep roster. He hasn't. He has no bench. So to me, we got to look at both sides, but either way, I want to fix. The question is, is Debler, is this going to be looked at by the brass Nevada, by the Abukai, you know, administration as, hey, we made progress. We won the most big 10 games. We wanted four seasons. We made the tournament for the first time. The players like him, they respond to

24:22him. We got to McDonald's all American coming next year. Let's keep building this. Let's add more. I mean, is that how they're going to look at it? Probably. I don't think he's going to get fired. Regardless of what we say, what we think, I think they're going to keep him for another year, at least. That's just my opinion. But Nevada, what you got on all that? Well, I mean, I guess, I mean, the question I asked is like, I'm rural highway state and you can talk about the roster and I get that. But like, do you think high point has a better roster than we do? You know, I mean, you know, I honestly don't know high points, but I'm going to say no, but yeah, I mean, because high point certainly doesn't have the resources that we do or the reputation or the recruiting base or you know, I'm saying none of that, but you know, they managed to put the other team and you know, it was kind of I know it's one game and everything else like that. But it's just, you know, you just wonder, you know, are you getting better or are you getting worse? You know what I'm saying? And I think for a high state, hey there, it's Ryan Seacrest for

25:22Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through April 2nd, spring in for store-wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Celsius, body armor or aida, silk, Capri Sun, Bavarian meats and Charmin. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery. Restrictions apply, see website for full terms and conditions. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Bill Board of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually I think somewhere north probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger

26:22and batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24, 7365. Wow, Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. Every day the world gets a little weirder and a lot more awesome. Cool stuff daily takes a look at everything from mining and space to the latest in the fight against cancer to how AI is basically changing everything. It's all the cool stuff you didn't know you need it to know. Join us for cool stuff daily as we take a quick look at science, tech and the wait, what stories that make you sound way smarter at dinner. Subscribe to cool stuff daily now because the

27:22future is happening fast and it's way too fun to miss. You know, I guess we're marginally better than we were last year. But you know, it's deeper the guide. You know, are you are you delaying the inevitable? You know, do you see Jake Gabler? Yeah, I mean, I guess the question would be do you think Jake Gabler will be the head coach here to house eight and five years or ten years? You know what I mean? Do you think he's got that kind of longevity? And I know it's kind of an impossible question to answer. It's all hypothetical. But you know, it's one of those things where you know, I just don't I don't know and you know, like I said, I'm willing to ride with a lot of things regarding, you know, at the end of the day, I'm on a big believer in, you know, it's not the X's and O's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's and they've got to perform. But in basketball of all

28:22the games, man, the coaches have such an impact because they affect everything on in-bounds plays on rotations, you know, switching defense. I mean, there's all sorts of things that the coaches directly impact on almost a possession, a possession basis. And so, you know, a coach is just so so important to your success. I just don't know if Debra can be I like said, I'm really struggling with the fact that Debra took that long to get them on the mobile his hands. I mean, I get you know, trying to play rhythm. If the thing about what you said, if everything you're saying you're just they're playing two guys over the top on under shaking the entire defense, they're playing a triangle over the top. I mean, then how do you have that guy just keep running into that mass front over and over and over again? When you've got, you know, a player mobily who can get it done, you know, I'm saying like that he's a guy he's a viable option. It's not like he hasn't done it with the ball in his hands, you know, so far this year. I just don't know how it could take

29:25Debra that long to figure that out. That that's the thing is kind of confounding way more of this other than the, you know, the play design on the last play or, you know, should we have stayed in his own defense or any of the other or even his rotations. I mean, even getting cut in there and doing some of the things that he did. I just I don't know. I mean, you know, I'm the last play again. Do you give it to mobily who least score or do you give it to the guy who's three of nine from the floor? I, you know, I don't know, you know, any any option you had was bad. That one, 4.3 seconds. Mason, we've all seen the Christian Latener thing and we, you know, look, I know it can happen, but it's hard. Right. It's it's really really hard. And it, you know, it's a it's a low, it's a low percentage play no matter no matter, you know, how you go about it. So, um, but I don't know. I I let me put you if I'm on high state, I am definitely working the fall and to see who's available. And working to see if there is an upgrade for it because, um, I think you're really at an

30:31inflection point with the program right now. And if you're going to make a move, I think this is the time to make it. I don't I don't think. So if you're not going to keep them long term, then I think you get rid of them now. Okay. I think you just cut your losses and and move on. Yeah. Question is, will they do that? I just don't know. I'm not confident they will. And I'm showing this clip also because look at the aggression from going back to what we talked about with Bruce Jordan. Look at the look at the the the lack of hesitant like he just he just I wish Bruce in this game because again, they were all over him. They were they were trying to take him out of the game. I get that. But as a star player, the captain of your team, boom. He did not hesitate. Pull it up. Like it was needed. Like boom. Like that was a big bucket for him. That's what your leadership be doing. And to me, I feel like early in the game. I don't know if it was

31:35frustration. I don't know what it was. But you got to find a way. Yes, you want to be patient. Somebody's open. If they're doubling you, make the right play. I get all of that. But you also have to pick your spots and be aggressive. And to me, this he did not hesitate. He pulled up in his face and stroked it. Boom. Like that was needed throughout the entire gang to really set the tone and lead your team. But anyway, yeah, Nevada. I mean, listen, I hear you. You mentioned a high point. I mean, look, we smashed Wisconsin to by 17. I wasn't that high on Wisconsin. I had them losing the next round anyway. And shoot. Sienna gave Duke all they could handle today. This tournament, you better come ready. You better be ready to play. I don't care how deep your roster is. It's like every year we get, we get reminded of how big this tournament is. And you see little teams take out big teams and 12s, take out fives and whatever. But I don't know Nevada. I mean, the question

32:42for me is, what is Bjork in this administration going to do? I'm not pounding the table to keep dealer. I'm saying, okay, if you get rid of dealer, you better be on the phones and find someone who is like, hey, yo, this is a stud coach. I want that. I don't want to, you know what? He might be okay. No. If you fire dealer, go get somebody. Be aggressive like you would be a football. And go get somebody that says, this is a home run higher. And this is just it. Nevada, do you think they can do that? Because to be honest with you, Nevada, before you jump in, I'm not as confident in this administration to do that in basketball as I am in football. You know what I'm saying? So this is like, I just don't know. Well, I just give you a fun fact. It'll fun stat. And then I'll give that to your question. Do you know that Bruce Thornton hit his first three

33:44point of the game in 33 seconds into the game? And then hit his last three pointer with 33 seconds left in the game. And between that period of time, between that period of time, he had one basket. Good Lord. But between the first race between the first 33 seconds and last. So in the last in 39 minutes, he had one basket. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like that can't happen. No, no, no, look, I mean, 39 minutes at one basket and two free throws. That's all that that was it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, like, cannell has they do it? Absolutely. I mean, like, Ohio State just signed Nadine Museroll, their hockey coach to a new five-year contract, you know, keeping her away from Minnesota. I mean, they, Ohio State can do whatever they want. And basketball, basketball is not in a relevant sport. We're not talking about, you know, archery or, you know, fencing or something like that or, you know, women's lacrosse. We're talking about

34:48basketball. I mean, it's a revenue sport. It's a sport where you actually make money if you've got a decent team. There's no reason they shouldn't have, you know, they've got great facilities. They've got a great recruiting base. They've got a great reputation. They've got a history of success and recent success. So to me, I think they've got to be working the phones going after it and trying to see what's available because, you know, I want to see what options they might have for this. Yeah, I mean, they should do their due diligence, for sure. Like I said, to me, well, first of all, I agree, obviously, basketball is not football, but it's not, I don't know, rifle, or they actually won national championships at a Ohio State or good too, but you get my point. Talk about revenue. Like, I get that. I understand that. But to me, I haven't seen a ton of evidence in the past years to show that they're putting as much emphasis on the basketball program. So I'm skeptical hippo with them actually making a splash like that.

35:56I don't think it's impossible. You're sure they can. But will they? That's my question. And here's a Bruce Thornton walking off the court, dejected last game and all that, man, sucks. And it was an emotional roller coaster today. We're down 15 at the half. I'm thinking, I kept saying to my people, boring a small miracle, this game is over, which I still stand by that because to me, I was being able to come back like we did with a small miracle because we just, we were just bad in that first half. But then, you know, the roller coaster, go back up and then came crashing down at the end, and it was very frustrating, very sad. But this is what's been going on with this program past four years. The first time in the past four years is tough in itself. So I don't know, man, Nevada, that's going to be the question mark for me. What are we going to do? Are we going to

36:57keep Jake? If we keep Jake, what are we going to do to step up with NIL funds portal? You know, make sure we bring guys in here, not, not mid guys, but high level guys that can come in and plug and play and make a big impact and all that. So that's the question. I mean, that's pretty much it at the end of the day, Nevada. What else you got? Yeah. Now, I think I'm going to go with my final answer being I think Ohio State is going to be looking. I'm going to be definitely testing the lines with the with the agents that know about this stuff, whether or not Ohio State really looking for it. But I just I think something like this. I mean, I think I'll have state fans you saw from the interest. I mean, Ohio State fans really want to support the basketball team. They really want to get behind the basketball team. Hey, there. It's Ryan Seacrest for Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through April 2nd. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Celsius body armor or aida silk Capri

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40:12you. I feel like it was our it was our lack of experience and and I mean I gotta say it coaching. I really think coaching costs us today. I think if we had a more experienced coach we would have won the game today. I think if we had FAD MAT, FAD MATA, even if we think if we had just hold then I think we'd have won the game for that. But you know that again that hypothetical you know will never know. But I I mean I thought I thought deeper was really bad that I and I and I rooting for I like deeper. I like that I love that loves his brother. I want to be there but I just I'm trying to think about you know even our in-bounce play you know like one thing he'd been really making his bones on is how many how often we scored off of in-bounce plays and stuff and I I didn't even like our in-bounce plays. I didn't I just I didn't like our offensive sets. I didn't like the way we were doing it just it nothing seemed to make sense and you know you know it just kind of all the exercise and so I'm gonna go my final answer is going to be a house it's going

41:14to be looking but I'm gonna I'll know here the next 24 48 hours of their if they're making calls because this is this is when they start making them right now. Yes I was going to say please holler at your sources because I want to know I want to know um you know because again I just my confidence is through the roof with Ohio State football doing whatever it takes to get to keep the beast going. I'm not a confident in Buckeye basketball. I'm just not so yes please keep us posted on that Nevada but before we close out I did want to bring out one thing that's non-basketball related. I thought was very interesting Nevada I'm going to share my screen real quick and um the chat tell me if y'all heard about this because it's tournament time and I think this is kind of like just kind of flying under the radar but did y'all see the incident approved changes to targeting suspension in one year trial. So here it is for at least one season a

42:17targeting penalty will no longer automatically take a college football player off the field for the following game. The division one football bowl sub division oversight committee on Thursday approved a one year trial rule that gives a player a break for his first targeting penalty. For the 26 season a player disqualified for targeting for the first time in the season can participate in the following game. The trial rule will apply regardless of which half the targeting penalty is caught. A player who draws a second targeting penalty of this season will be required. Sit out the first half of the next game. A player who draws his third targeting of the season must sit out the full following game and then it notes that there were no players that were disqualified for targeting three times in the 2020 2025 season. So to me this is low key significant because we've been talking about the targeting rule. I know Joe Klatt has hated it. He's been pounding the table. Others haven't mentioned it. I thought this was interesting. Okay, so I wanted to quickly touch on this before we bang out of here. Nevada, what's your thoughts on this,

43:22brother? Well, first of all, I hate the targeting rule period. So let me just say, you know, let me explain to you what the fundamental flaws in targeting targeting was set up to deal with the most egregious types of hits. You know what I'm saying? And you know, it's like that old saying by Justice Potter, they asked him the definition of pornography. And he goes, I know it when I see it. You know what I'm saying? Like that's kind of a targeting. Like we know it when we see it. Like so if you have a hit and I'm you know what I'm talking about. You've been in a house they fan, you know, for like, you know, when we see guys get disqualified for games for hits were at the last second, a quarterback ducks his head and a shoulder pad hits him the side. You know, I'm saying something like that that that to me is not targeting until so until they I like the intention that they're trying to make the penalties less punitive on this stuff. But yeah, I think until they deal with the entire rule. And I think the problem is with the

44:27when you slow everything down to slow motion. Okay. In slow motion, there's head contact on almost every single play. You know what I'm saying? Some part of your body is going to make contact with the other person's head on 90% of the same. You know what I'm saying? Like it could be your forearm, it could be your hand, it could be your shoulder, it could be your wrist. I mean, something's going to make contact with the head or neck area on just about every play. So when you're slowing it down like that and they're going to doing the review like that, I really think it's just got to be I've always felt like there should be like two penalties like one for the most egregious ones and another should be a five yard. I don't know. I don't know what exactly what the answer is. But I think it's just I don't like the application of the rule in general the way that they do it. Because I think about that that game that we played against Clemson when we got the remember we got the targeting penalty on the side way on the side way on the sack of Trevor like to be there is no way in the world that is targeting but that got called

45:34for targeting. And so until you address that to me that's way worse than this stuff about first penalty second penalty, the third period, one game, half game, no game, whatever. I just hate the rule period and you know until they change that then you know I don't know where to go with that. I mean what do you think about targeting? What do you ask? How do you feel about the application and how do you feel about how the rules been been called in recent years? I mean you you kind of just spoke my mind and you brought up that shine weight targeting penalty to me is the chair. It's the crown jewel of terribleness when it comes to targeting. And it's no it's not just because I'm a Buckeye fan. He dropped his head sunshine dropped his head right at the moment when shine weight was coming. If he doesn't drop his head they don't call targeting. And they still shouldn't have called target because it wasn't targeting like to me there has to be common sense to it. You review it you see all the player dropped his head like come on man like listen I one thing

46:40I do agree with Joe clap is it's a it's a it's a the rule is terrible because it's so subjective. You can have a guy do one thing and get caught and then another guy in another game do the same thing I get caught. So listen you spoke my mind I don't really have much else to say you're right on it but that shine weight play against Clemson that was so trash and that still haunts me is like two two plays in that game like the worst plays in my Buckeye fandom of officiating so yeah I'm kind of happy to see that they're not getting. Go ahead. No I see I know the second one was the Akuta one we're you know on the on the the fun bowl recurring yeah which is the worst column in the history of calls but I think it goes to a more basic thing and this is something we've talked about before but it's it's about replay and you know replay was set up to reverse indisputable video evidence of error on the field. Indisputable

47:41meaning no two reasonable people could draw different conclusions from watching the same tape. I feel the same way should be with targeting if it's not so clear and obvious you can't targeting you know with review review should not be I think or oh yeah that looks like or yeah that appears to be it should only be black and white I think targeting should only be black and white I think review should only be black and white and and I think too many times the review official the guy they want to get involved they want to make the big call they want to do the thing and I just think until they change that until they get the application right um um replay I think it it dribbles into um into targeting as well I think they should it should be the same standard indisputable video it should have to be it's indisputable video evidence of targeting like there's no question in your mind it shouldn't be well yeah that that kind of look like that

48:41or wow he did come drop a settle there's any doubt it shouldn't be a penalty that's just where I'm at and that's how I feel about review about replay and and you know I've been saying that for years about replay yep you have you been consistent with replay and so I agree I mean I don't dislike this one year trial I think it's cool that guys aren't I think it predict protects guys from bad refereeing so that they don't get ejected for a half a game your best player because of a bad call so I like that now what's going to happen after that trial we'll see but I thought that was interesting in the midst of the NCAA tournament I thought that was a significant piece of uh information to update so I definitely wanted to run that by one but listen ah tough day did not end the way we wanted it to end it is what it is we'll see how the future holds with Devler and what Ohio State does and all that and we'll absolutely keep you up on that

49:42but spring practice is back next week we'll get on that and we're always going to hit you with content and coverage all things buckeye football basketball whatever's relevant we're going to hit you with any last words and about it for behalf of here well yeah now that I mean look we can officially kind of close the book on buckeye basketball you know obviously they'll you know kind of work on get ready for for next year be interested to see who they who they return who they get in the portal you know what's going on with that but um you know hey buckeye football's going and we're gonna have it we're gonna have a scrimmage next weekend and that that'll be those are always fun because then we really get to see the ball trip line for sure and top g's in a super chat uh thanks for the one i and i got to go this program needs a caliperio patino so yeah we're going to see we are going to see i agree we deserve an elite coach um or you know we can devler be an elite coach three four years from now maybe is it worth waiting to see i don't

50:45know either way we you know is we're going to see in Nevada i'm waiting to hear from your contacts your agent folks to see what's really going on but you know time will tell i will tell um what do you think about those names caliperio patino i know he doesn't mean literally them but it looks like he's saying this program needs a caliperio patino type coach would you think about that well i you know i wouldn't mind somebody who's from stature i wouldn't even mind somebody who's from stature in some baggage i don't that that stuff doesn't bother me i think i think all of college basketball recruiting is a little crooked and people can say what they want about that but that's just the way that i feel i feel like i i know that industry will enough to know how dirty that is so if they had to get somebody with some that's that i don't have a problem with it either that or you know you you go with the last honest man the last honest man in coaching you you get from the cheese it should get b-moses you get b-moses and you bring them in there and you're like look we're going to go with ethicalness we're going to go with you you're kind of coach carter you can

51:48put like hey you're like my reputation's up there on the wall there guys i'm just putting them up there and uh can lead us to victory the old like you did the cheesets and the cheesets came together like this year they were like a like a disputed group they got there and you molded them into champions they all woke up with the cheesies when at the end of the day they're definitely cheesies at the end of the day do i have my cheesy uh graphic where's my cheesy graph i didn't upload it here did i didn't get i wanted to share it i'm my house uploading oh no there it is there it is right here did it pop up oh there you go there's that's gotta be that's gotta be a Halloween costume that is bad to be a Halloween costume oh man that is hilarious um i'm available though i'll tell you what i would recruit well i know how talk to the jump boys young boys oh i'm sure i'm sorry you better

52:51you put up with them a little bit out there just they may say hey little one on one there and uh if i beat you then you you come to last night then you commit deal sun that he started raining by the night i don't worry about that right now don't worry about that don't decide right right what about me oh man oh sounds like it's uh seeing from um uh why my why is the movie escape me uh densel washington gray island jesus shuttles worth um he got gang i don't know if you see that before oh yeah i know is his dad he's playing one on one yeah yeah so anyway go go watch that if you're watching i'm thinking i'm thinking more like blue chips or something like that you're like the nicknulty look good honest guy think it's lured into the the lurid rule of recruiting them you're delivering tractors out to something out there in the farm happy was the name happy was the blister's name dropping bags off and tractors and i mean they had

53:55penny hard away shack uh who was the white boy with the jumper to have the trap forget his name for indiana you get for indiana right yeah that movie that was that movie was crazy outbundi was the investigative reporter i might have to go back and watch that that's good stuff so we always go off with the tangent but listen listen it's all good man we love doing this it's fun today sucked but it is what it is we still got football we still got football y'all we got it we're gonna be good so anyway that's my last words and uh listen until next time we love your book our school family book our nation go bucks as always please you

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