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2:02Y'all, listen, yesterday was Spring Football Eve. Today is Spring Christmas, I guess? I don't know. Either way, I'm excited. We're pumped. Lots to talk about. And we're going to absolutely do that. Do me a favor, hit that like button. Hit that thumb that you see. Subscribe if you have not already. And then also for the people who don't always hit YouTube, Apple people go to Apple, save us there. spreeker.com for you, not Apple people like me. Go there to make sure you've got all bases covered for the content here at Buck High School. Again, we're going to be talking about the Spring Football Practice, the first one and who's turning heads and all the happenings, man. We're going to dig into it. Also, remember when you send those wonderful super chats, helps to go towards the pay it forward, which is our military and our first responders. We're going to look out for them because they always look out for us, Nevada Buck. What's up? Happy Spring Football Day, brother.

3:03Yeah, wow, what a day. Usually, these Spring Football things come at it the first day. There's not much. But this one seemed like there was a lot of stuff going on. And they were jumping right in there. It wasn't just like going out there and stretching and handing out forms and walking around and picking your name for the team. We're going to be the Flaming Hot Cheetos this year, so my dad like they were into it and doing some stuff. And yeah, but exciting day. I was excited for Spring Football last night. But now that it's here, I'm even more excited. So lots of great stuff going on. Absolutely. I say, let's jump into these new numbers. New numbers. I know it's trivial, but it's fun to me, Nevada. And like you said earlier, ballers get single digits. And we're going to talk about that. So let's go over some notable number changes or updates. Nevada, what do you think about Legend Bay

4:06getting the number two out the gate? What's your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, I think the heights real. I think, you know, you can say what you want about the single digit numbers, but the single digits are the most coveted numbers. Obviously, the most coveted number of all is one, but two is the next most coveted. And to have a guy come in, and he's not even like, he's a a transfer portal kid. So it's not like it was like promised him through them. This is a kid that was in high school last year come here at the given number two right out of the gate. And I mean, you can't help but think of it like courtesy amulet or some of the other, you know, single digit number guys or kind of gadgety guys that, you know, played wide receiver, played running back, were used in a number of different spots. And I think that's exactly what they're going to do with Legend Bay. And I can tell you that everybody's excited about Legend Bay. Everybody's excited. And, you know, I think that the work that he put in

5:07during the winter is noticeable because, you know, he's noticeably thicker. He's noticeably stronger and there's really, they've got high expectations for him. And that's why you kind of go out and stay for high expectations, but that's also by the given number two. So definitely something there for sure. Yeah, Ryan Day was talking about the criteria for getting numbers that you want. He mentioned, you know, like champions and how did you do with making the workouts, leadership, you know, being on time, you know, all the little stuff. And so, yeah, I mean, he was already turning heads today, you know, looking fast and explosive and all that, man. So very excited. Now on the flip side, I was a little surprised, not in a bad way, but I kind of like the 97 on Kenyatta. I mean, that's Bosa, like a Bosa number. It's a great defensive in number. What's your thoughts on him flipping the number two? Now, I like it, but I was still like,

6:07yeah, I don't know what you think. Well, I mean, you know, it's one of those things where I mean, I like the traditional numbers, but then sometimes you want to stand out, you want to be, you know, let me look, James Smith has got a single digit number. You don't see that much from defensive tackles, you know what I'm saying? And when's the last time you saw a defensive tackle at Ohio State, a true defensive tackle in a single digit number? I mean, I can't remember it ever. I'm saying it hasn't happened, but I can't remember it. Yeah, now you got me thinking, and every guy I think of is a single digit. And like, nope, they're not a detackle. I'm sorry, it's a defensive end, and not a detackle. When Kohler, the global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, came to me and said, Martha, we need an ambassador for our timeless, elegant, durable, cast iron products. I said, I'm in.

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10:12That's pretty crazy. Actually, he's number is it. I think he's three. Yeah, he's three three. Is it three? A weight loss for yeah, but yeah, like, yeah, I mean, that's wild, man. That's just wild. No, I agree. I agree. Uh, so that's different. So the Bama boys trying to come in and you know, switch things up a little bit. Petty John, number five. I was like, okay. Okay, Petty John, um, that's pretty cool. Let me see what else other notable. No, Riley Petty John, who who's out for the spring with the minor injury being worked on, oh, you know, a little surgical procedure. Nothing that's going to hold them out, but out for the spring, um, we'd kind of alluded to it last night about, uh, some availability of reps at the linebacker position. Yeah. Um, so that's what we were talking about. But yeah, like Cristian Allegro and those guys are going to probably get some lingering. Petty John now, sport number five, but we won't see it until the fall. Right. So hill up, get better. Get back as soon as you can.

11:14Um, you know, Petty John family is a friend of the show. Dev has interviewed them a good million times. Great people. I think he's a young stud and a waiting. So get healthy, get those mental reps. And also number three, McEwen. I've heard several, several people talk about how fast and good McEwen look today, including Ryan Day, Nevada. McEwen for those who don't know, he's the kid and shoot. It's such a small school. I always forget the name of it. But he was a standout. Go ahead. You know the school. You T San Antonio. You T San Antonio. He was a standout for them. And I know some people poo pooed it because it's a small school. But I'm telling you, there's been good kids who have come from small schools. And now in this portal world, these late blooming kids have an opportunity to step up on the big stage. And this kid is good. And Ryan Day called him a pro. Called him and Kyle Parker from LSU pros is what he called them.

12:17That's a great sign. We knew they were experienced. But now they're at a house state. LSU is no joke. LSU is LSU. But it's still good to see them come in the first day out the gate in Nevada with some praise from the head man. Yeah, I mean, I think those guys can play. And Ohio State thinks those guys can play. And they certainly looked the part. And I would be surprised. I mean, I think Ohio State's feeling really good about their portal evaluations. Obviously, you never really know until you get deeper into spring ball. And obviously into the fall. But early returns are they're very happy. And that's not always the way it is. Sometimes they're like, uh-oh, we made a booboo on this one. I can tell you on Victor Cutler, they were feeling questionable, like right off the from jump street. They were like, oh, man, I'm not sure what we just did here. And they even kind of was going through it kind of similar thing as well. But I can tell you that I haven't heard any of that.

13:19This, you know, this spring, you know, over the winter into this spring, they're feeling really good about all the guys that they got. And specifically those two wide receivers, they're looking for those guys to make an intermediate impact. And boy, that would be a nice surprise for those who wide receiver. Absolutely. So real quick before we get into any more players, I want to talk about, now we knew Nevada, you told everybody a few weeks ago about map attrition. And how much you was getting paid. But now it's all out in the public. So map attrition, $3.75 million in 2026. And then he bumps up to $3.85 and $27.28. Three-year deal. He is now the highest paid coordinator slash assistant in the country. Nevada, what's your thoughts on Maddie P getting paid and being the highest paid man out there? Well, yeah, I'd heard three years, $10 million. So this is even a little bit,

14:19you know, marginally higher than that. But hey, you got to pay the man. I mean, he can't wait. The job that he did last year was nothing short of miraculous in terms of the way that he had coordinated the defense, lost eight starters and then took the defense to even greater heights. You know, also, Maddie P, not that this is a big deal, but Matt P is going to be one of the 10 cannibal coaches. So he's going to be on the road recruiting Arthur Smith is not. We've talked about that before, Arthur Smith, you know, which is kind of the new meta, I think, to get these guys to come in and take these job. You know, you'll have to slum it for a million and a half. But he doesn't have any recruiting responsibilities. Right. And so, you know, Patricia's got a little bit more of a Spanish job. But look, you know, Ryan Day is going to war with two ex-NFL head coaches as his coordinators. And I'm, he feels really good, you know, about the guys that he has and the way that they just conduct themselves,

15:22the way they're maturity, their experience, and the fact that Ryan can now go back to full-time to be in a CEO and let these guys run the room. What a great, you know, what a great blessing for him. But yeah, Matt P, at 3.75 million, well worth it. And I'm sure that the bucket is probably even going higher, but you're well worth every penny. Absolutely. I love it. It's great. Two head coaches as your coordinators. I don't see how people can keep playing that down. I know we got to see what happens in the field, but boy, I'm excited about that, man. So kudos to a house. Stay for working it out. He absolutely had options like Ryan Day was saying earlier, but they made this happen. They made it happen. And I'm very happy about it. So transitioning back, I see y'all in the chat talking about Chris Henry Jr. And it was dope to see Chris Henry Jr. get his dad's number 15, right? That was good to see.

16:23And he also caught a nice, excuse me, 70 yard bomb today, according to Ryan Day and practiced. And then I saw us in the chat. I think it was Matt Randall's talking about. Can you imagine covering Chris Henry Jr. and JJ Smith? Good luck. Oh, wait. So I know. So yeah, I mean, we've been saying that all all season. We agree. And he he looked physically the part. I know he's a he's always been a wierry tall, wierry type of kid. But his height kind of helps balance that out. And he's gotten bigger. He's gotten bigger. So he's going to be a problem early, early. Even if it's just, I mean, 50, 50 ball wise, he's excellent. Even put it like this and about it. I said like this. Even if he wasn't 65, he still has great 50, 50 ball skills.

17:24So if he was 62 and a half, I still think he would be really good. Like a Devon Smith. Devon Smith was not 65, but he was excellent at 50, 50 balls. So he's excellent with his height. So I see y'all talking about Chris Henry Jr. Super excited about him. Ryan Day seemed to really love what the receivers look like today. So Nevada, wish your thoughts on Chris Henry Jr. I mean, we're going for a treat. Run for a treat to you know, Chris Henry Jr. with Julianston on to him. And J.J. Smith on the other side. And in Arthur Smith, Cool fence. I mean, you're in for a show. And you know, everybody that's been around Chris Henry, I've seen Chris Henry play many times. He just doesn't look like anything that I've ever seen before at Y Receiver. You know, because he's so big, but he moves so well. And he's a glider. He glides around out there. So, you know, he's not a four three, but I mean, he runs well. He doesn't get caught much from behind.

18:27And to be that big and to have that type of a catcher, it is. And you'd be able to go up and get the ball. I mean, I it like I said, it's it's going to be something. We're going to see something very, very special this year. So you know, buckle up. Get your chips and your drink and be ready to watch it. Because I'm not sure we've ever seen anything quite like it before. And I'm not sure we'll ever see it in quite like it again. Because I'm not sure when we'll have another Julian saying, JJ Smith to kind of pair along with him. But it's I'm going to be here for every minute of watching Chris Henry Jr. play that for sure. Definitely. And look at him. Here's a picture of him towering over everyone, not looking small. I mean, he's he's still finished, but he doesn't look small. And so yeah, he's going to be a terror out there lining up against DBs. You know, I don't know. Is the second corner going to

19:27try to line up with him? You know, is he going to draw matchups from the third? You know, corner and stuff like that. If you got JJ out there, Brandon and this in the slot. It's like that's that's going to be very difficult to go up against your weakest corner with this dude as a true freshman. So I'm excited about Chris Henry Jr. I definitely agree. But yes, Ryan Day seemed to be very happy with his first impressions with this Y receiver room. Now, one thing I want to kind of pivot back to. And I know we're just going to be all over the place, but it was a lot going on today. So I want to pivot back to legend bay, but more specifically the running back room. Nevada, because I know some people are kind of. I don't want to say freaking out, but they're concerned about his comments. Ryan Day mentioned that he was concerned with the running back room.

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23:31When you use code staple20 at checkout, that's American-Giant.com code staple20. A madman out there. I've seen him coaching person and obviously we've seen clips, but he got after Legend Bay a few times. And favor because they didn't have the ball up high and tight. And so anyway, the point is Nevada, I know how I feel about this, but I want to hear your thoughts. Do you, how much do you read into Ryan Day's comments about his concern with the running

24:32back room? Or do you just like, eh, like, how do you feel about it? I mean, I think that it would probably be the same for most rain back rooms where you're missing the one and two backs. You're a thousand year of Russia from last year. I mean, how many teams wouldn't have concerns about that? You know, then you're down to running backs three, four, and five through the spring. I'm not concerned about it. You know, for me, I look at it. I always think in this particular situation with these particular resources that we have, we should be a past first team. We should pass the set up the run. And if concerns in the running back room or lack of depth during the spring or whatever causes us to lean more into our passing game, you know what, I'm all about that. Because I've always felt that the idea that we're not playing football in the 70s anymore. This is 2025. You can win past first. And, you know, I hope that they activate the quarterback

25:37run in a limited fashion, you know, because everybody else in the world does it. We're literally the only team in the world that doesn't run it. And our fan base is the most scared fan base in the world. What if somebody gets hurt? It's football. You know, somebody could get hurt, you know, this is, but you got to activate the quarterback run into it, lean into your passing game, lean into your short pass game, lean into your screen game, lean in, you know, throw it to your flankers, use Legend Bay and interesting ways. So I'm not really, you know, concerned about it. I think it's just the, it's a, you know, you have to, you're not going to get out there and say everything is great right now, especially when you're too returning running back to master or both sitting, you know, on the sideline. So I think it's, it's much to do about nothing. Yeah, I agree. Exactly. It's like, okay, it's like, what do you expect? To me, I think from Coach Dave's standpoint, I don't think he's hitting a panic button.

26:39I think he's trying to motivate them through the media and get after them. Because you can imagine Ryan Day is on their butts, like, and on coach, like, hey, these boys got to step up. We need them to grow up fast because we got our two veterans out and we need them to step up. And so I think it's a motivating factor. You got two freshmen and a red shirt freshman who did not play leading that room right now. And it's the first day of practice. So again, you got kids coming in, who have not had an actual house, they college football practice yet. So they're going to be sloppy. They're trying to learn, okay, where do I go? What's the pace of practice? How does, you know, like want me to do this? It's, it's an adjustment. And so, you know, most kids are following the leader in line. You know, the DBs, the young DBs were looking at Caleb Bounce last year. They were looking at, you know, Matthews. They don't got that right now.

27:40So they got to, they got to jump in and do it quick. And so I agree, Nevada. I don't think it's a big deal. I think this running back room is going to be just fine. I think the talent is there. They just need to get acclimated to what they're being asked to do, especially with no veteran leadership in front of them in that room. So I agree. Well, I'm going, how many returning yards do we have? Do you know what I'm saying? Zero? I mean, yeah, I mean, they're just right. Ryan couldn't answer the question any other way. Well, it's all I feel great. You know, I mean, I feel peachy. You know, I mean, it's a very unusual situation where you, I mean, I, are leading Russia from Osher. It's got to be Julian saying. And yeah, you know, I mean, like, so we just don't have any yards coming back on that. Now he did go out of his way, though, to talk about how deep and good the offense line was. And I'm like, wow, I wonder, wonder where I heard that. Right. Well, what a shock. Everybody panic.

28:47Yeah, that's like, I mean, you know, he had more is a super talented kid. That kid could play guard. That kid could play tackle. He could play all over the line. We just got so many kids, you know, Josh, but he is out with a little little procedure, but you've got so much depth on the offensive line. It's almost crazy how much depth they have in the offensive line. So of all the positions that people were, but don't worry about the offensive line. I mean, let's worry about other things, but we're not about the offensive line, man. I'm telling you, now, the defensive line, I think it's legitimate to talk about, hey, we got some, some holes, I think we can fill them, but the offensive line, we've got dudes and proven dudes and proven dudes with starts under their belt on top of that. So I have zero concerns about the offensive line. Yeah, regarding the offensive line, Coach Day did say, Podia would be limited in the spring. So Josh Podia, who played well against Miami, he will be limited. So that's something, you know,

29:48to know, it's nothing major, but there's that. And then also one other thing on Legend Bay, Coach Day nailed exactly what we've been saying as far as a cop. We've been saying Curtis Samuel and Xavier Johnson, like literally, but especially Curtis Samuel. So we were very spot on with that. And you can see it in his game, like that's exactly how we need to use him. Running back, you know, we can motion him out to the slot to get favorable matchups against linebackers, or, you know, you know, if they're in a nickel, the nickel DB slot corner who can't guard him, you know, I'm hoping Nevada. At some point, it's a little early, but I'm hoping that we install some, some plays where he can pass. He'll get it in the round and throw the ball, because no, he's not a college D1 college quarterback at this level, but he's good enough to throw

30:55the ball and be a threat. Like, he's not a bum throwing the ball now. So I, I want to see all types of gadgetry with Legend Bay eventually. But for now, I'm excited to see him back there. And I want to see him get some reps at part return. Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that you just want to see the ball his hands and, you know, there's many different ways as possible. And I hope we're not putting too much on the kid, but I tell you how state's excited about him. And he's going to get a lot of activity this, you know, this spring with, with everybody down, you know, now they're running back from Florida. So I'm going back to the floor, Jim. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that guy, he's interesting. He's interesting player. And I think he's a guy that while we're talking about returning yards at Ohio State, he's a guy that's rushed for yards in college at Florida. And he's going to be, he's worth keeping an eye on as well, because I've

31:55talked to a couple of people and they both mentioned him to me, not like over the moon, but like, hey, this guy looks like he's a football player. So I'm really interested to see what he can do as well, but he's going to get a lot of opportunity to do it, because this spring, you know, we're thin at running back, but that just means, you know, opportunity knocks for somebody to come through and take the opportunity to use the spot and make an impression on Arthur Smith. Because Arthur Smith hadn't seen any of these guys. He hadn't seen Bo Jackson. He hadn't seen Isaiah West. So you make that person person him that that may be an abiding one for sure. Very true. Clean slate. And I'm glad you brought him up because it came to me after we went on our little zero yards. I was like, oh, yeah, Jacobi Jackson. Now, technically, he had zero yards as a buck eye, but he does bring yards from Florida. And I shot up to dev. By the way, dev will be going live after us tonight. Make sure you check out dev after the show. But dev kind of got me to get my eyes on Jackson a little more. And I see the chat. Yes, he is known as a really good

32:58blocker. He might end up being the best blocker on the team. We'll see. But I've also heard today that he looked really good physically like he looked like a rock out there. So yeah, don't want to sleep on Jackson. He has some experience, but he just had doesn't have Ohio State practice experience. So that matters. So I'm glad you you brought that up. And I wanted to bring up Julian Saiyan. So I'm going to put this on the screen. So I tweeted this out. This is a quote from Coach Day. He talked about him making an impact with his legs when appropriate. He said, we know that's the X factor that has to show up this year. He's aware of that. And we've been working hard in the all season. So Nevada, we've been saying we've been talking about this all off season about how him not running as much in certain spots needs to change. It was said after the Miami game by

34:01Julian. It was said by Ryan Day. We talked about how Ryan Day needs to make sure he's not sending mixed messages to his quarterbacks and his offense. Because in the past, he's been a little restrictive with this quarterbacks running the ball. Okay. So now it seems to me, Nevada, that over the years as a as a head coach and seeing the game and all that and still learning, in my opinion, and I know some people are still skeptical hippo, but I've been saying leading up to even now that I felt like things were going to change. I feel like over time, the worm is going to start turning towards him putting more actual real emphasis on him running. And today's comment unprompted because they didn't ask about him running in this. They would just talk about Julian Saiyan and he led into this comment, y'all, talking about his throwing and commanded offense, and he ended his comment with this, Nevada. Did you see this quote and what's your thoughts on it?

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38:09And so it's, you know, I think when you hear it from multiple people and you see it with your own eyes over because this isn't just a Julian St. joint. This is a C.J. Stroud, this is C.J. You can go through the quarterback, even Justin Fields to a certain degree, you're relative to how much he rush it runs in the NFL. So I think that Ryan has got to quit giving mixed messages about letting the football support back. And I think, you know, this seems to be, you know, his way of saying publicly, hey, okay, I've kind of changed my word, but this is definitely a change because, you know, whether he's singing it explicitly, you know, I'm saying, I don't want you to run or he's just kind of going, you know, you're not really brought here to be or running back, you know, hey, we look for other guys to go get those yards and do that. Hey, you know, Sam, you know, hey, your health is paramount and we can't afford to have you get her, you know, there's so many different things that he's done that cause guys to go,

39:10they think twice before they run the football. And I think Ryan's got to change that and hopefully, this is the start of him doing it in 2026. Agreed. And I keep telling people, listen, I'm a press conference boy. I watch all the pressers. I've watched Ryan Day since he's been here faithfully. I've studied him. I've, you know, just taking notes and I'm telling y'all, now, y'all can still say you're skeptical and this is not it, but well, he just talking. I'm telling you, like Nevada to say, this is different. This is different. And so the question is, will he follow through with this difference of engaging the press about this particular thing with the quarterback running again, the quote, he said, we know that's the X factor. He said, um, with his legs, when appropriate, which is important because nobody's asking him to run Q draws every

40:11two plays and be Braxton Miller. All we're saying is, just like in a Miami game, when sleepy eyes, Carson Beck took advantage, when pressure was coming, he saw nothing downfield, he took off and picked up critical first downs to move the chains for his team. That's what Julian Sandey's to do. There was one particular play where it was three yards to the first down and he could have got it with his feet easily. He didn't do it. Now, some people think he's scared to run. I disagree. Nevada, we have both let y'all know that he what he rushed for over a thousand yards in high school. If I'm correct over his four years, um, it might be more than that. He was deemed a dual threat quarterback in his recruiting profile. No, he's not Braxton Miller, but he can run. He's not slow. He can certainly pick up a first down, you know, on third and five if there's an opening. He can do it, but he's a quarterback and a elite quarterback who's looking downfield,

41:13but he has to understand situationally that, bro, you got to just get, get, move the chains. You cannot wait, okay? Unless it's just right there wide open, okay? Cool. If not, you got to take off and that comes with time and a feel of the game and an emphasis from the coaching staff to do that. And I'm encouraged. I think it's actually going to happen. All people laugh at me. They've already laughed at me, Nevada. Oh, you know, he's just talking. I disagree. I think this is going to be a change Nevada and I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I think it's going to be a change. It was just because, you know, one Ryan Day is not a stupid person, okay? And it would take a stupid person at this point to ignore the impact of the quarterback running cultural ball games. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like the evidence, it's not even about opinion anymore. It's just like everybody runs everybody athletic guys, non athletic guys, big guys, small guys to, you know, indoor outdoor, good weather, bad weather, they all run. And so, you know, when you're,

42:19when you're literally the only team in college football that doesn't run the quarterback, at some point, you got to tune in. So I do believe it is just because I think Ryan has kind of seen, I don't know why it's taken him this long, frankly, but here we are and being a better, better late than never. Yep, better late than never for sure. A couple other notes, you know, I'm sure a lot of you have heard this, but the staff seems to like Lee Roy Roker. He was told to lead, you know, the huddle today. And so Roker, he seems to be a leader. He he was over the depth chart on some of these guys that transferred that we thought were higher recruits. Now, I still, I guess, want to see more from Roker. I trust the staff, but Nevada, there was a play. I forget, again, to it was, but he got burnt badly and is still in my mind. So I need some other plays to erase that from my memory, but with that said, I defer to the staff.

43:22Obviously, clearly, they like him on the field and as a leader. So anything on Roker being caught out today. Yeah, I mean, look, you've got to, you've got to open safety spot. And he's a guy that, you know, I've seen it through many years of watching Ohio State. You always, there's always somebody every year that kind of, you know, maybe has come in and had limited action didn't do well or just been kind of buried a little bit. And you start to see it. It's stuff like this. I mean, the fact that they're having him, you know, lead the huddles, that's not a small thing. That's a something. And so, you know, when they're doing that, you know, they're, they're telling them, hey, this is your time. You've got an opportunity to do it. And would not surprise me at all to see him do it. Again, he's another guy whose name that I heard from the strength and conditioning staff over the winter. So he'd really put in the work. So it's nice to see somebody put in the work. And then, you know, how it kind of gets translated to the field here. Although, you know, first day in spring football, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him make a move here during this spring. So

44:24they definitely wouldn't form. Yeah, for sure. I mean, listen, again, as a fan, because I'm a fan, you know, I'm an analyst. I'm a podcaster. I'm a, I'm a football junkie, a critical thinker. But I'm still a fan. And so, you know, you basically at the end of the day, I'm smart enough to defer to the staff because they see these players more. Does that mean the staff is, is infallible and incapable of making mistakes? Absolutely not. We've seen some things over the years. I've like, that was a mistake. And clearly, here's the evidence. But more often than not, if you've got a good smart staff, they're going to make the right decision. And so they see these kids more than we do. And they like Roker a lot. And one other note, Allegrio from Wisconsin was hearing that he looks bigger than people thought and faster. He won a rep against a passing rep against a believer running

45:24back. And so, you know, I think I don't know. I'm very curious to see it. Because again, going back and watching him Nevada, he was good for Wisconsin. He was a good player. Like he's one of those guys where he's a football player. I know that's cliche and overused, but that's what he is. He can make tackles. He's not slow. He can get after the quarterback. He's physical. And so, I'm very curious to see what he comes in and does in this linebacker room, especially with only the two linebackers we primarily use in our 425 look, anything on Allegrio and him coming in, you know, looking good so far. Well, not surprising. And again, he was a guy that, you know, I think he was the defensive player of the game for Wisconsin twice against Ohio State. I mean, he's always been a pain in our in our side. I mean, he's a guy that you notice. He's a guy that, you know, I'm not surprised at all to see him kind of. It'd be more surprising to me if he wasn't impact a little Ohio State. So,

46:26yeah, I mean, he's one of the guys that I'm the most excited about. Probably the one that I'm most sure about because coming from another big 10 school. So, you know, he's familiar with the league. Notice how to play veteran guy, leadership guy. You know, he got the equivalent of the bloco there at Wisconsin. And I'm not surprised at all to hear that he's playing well doing well. I think he's going to be a terrific player for Ohio State. Yep. Yep. And in good leadership, good veteran experience and leadership coming into that room. So, you know, I mean, that's kind of what it comes down to. But yeah, I see y'all in the chat talking about saying. And before we get the super chats again, because to me, based on the comments, I just don't know for on the same page. And like, again, and you tell me if you, if you agree, Nevada, we're not saying we need Julian saying to be will Howard. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think Nevada saying that.

47:27We don't need him to be a dual threat quarterback. We just need him to understand situational football when it makes sense to take off and run to move the chains for your team. That's it. That's it. And I brought up the comparison to Carson Beck in that game. Carson Beck was never known as a running quarterback. Matter of fact, he was clowned for not being, he for being a statute. And listen, I'll be honest, he burned me because remember Nevada? Me, you and Dev, we're talking about who will we rather see Texas A&M or Miami? One of the reasons why I wanted to see Miami is because Sleepy Eyes Beck was a statute. He was never known for running. When Kohler, the global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, came to me and said, Martha, we need an ambassador for our timeless, elegant, durable cast iron products. I said, I'm in. Now, let me see the factory. Weeks later, I was suited up and coveralls

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50:37But guess what? As a ninth year senior however long he's been in college football, he was savvy and experienced in season enough to know the situation and take off and make huge plays with his feet to move the chains. That's what we're saying. He needs to go, he needs to drop back and look downfield primarily. But as he continues to grow as a quarterback, he'll have a feel for the game to know when to take off and scramble. That's what we're saying. Nevada, do you agree with that? I mean, look, for the last five years we've had zero rushing TDs out of our QB1, zero. Over that same four seasons, the next lowest combined out of 133 schools was seven. We were zero. I mean, that's how far we are behind everybody else and are running the quarterback. So like opportunistic running for sure. I mean, heck, I don't even mind

51:38if it's fluttered in whatever long and you call a designed quarterback draw like they did with Fernando Mendoza and you know what I'm saying? Like, if they give it to you, you know, Julian saying it is not a porcelain doll. He rushed for a mortgage art and I schooled an archmaning. He can do this, you know, I'm like, I don't get this thing where it's like, we just can't, we got to wrap him and bubble wrap him, you know, Julian, the boy and the bubble saying, I mean, I just don't get it. So, um, yeah, I don't know why that crap be absolutely stupid. Well, but I mean, it's true. I mean, I, the way people talk about it, it's like, like he, you know, I mean, nobody wants to get their quarterback, you know, hurt and put out for the year, but I think that the, the risk of that is really overdone. That doesn't really happen that often, you know what I'm saying? Especially if you're not just hammering your quarterback. I mean, freaking Patrick Mahomes was the leading rusher for the chief through eight games last year.

52:40Eight games. He was the leading ruck Patrick Mahomes, the franchise, the face of the NFL and not exactly a fleet guy. You know, you're not talking about Lamar Jackson or, you know, you're not talking about Josh Allen, you know, you're freaking Patrick Mahomes was the leading rusher. So Patrick Mahomes can run, you know, he makes, what does he make 60 million a year or something like that? You're too, you're too, you're too, you're too, we can't run Julian saying. Come on. Yeah. Come on. No, I agree. I agree. And also, uh, the, the word is he looks bigger. As he should be in an await program and, and you know, a young man is still growing. And so that's going to help it. Like you said, like, yes, sometimes it's okay to dial up. I want to make it even more clear, because I agree, Nevada. It's okay to dial up a, um, a Q draw on third and long when the defense thinks that it's never going to happen. Like, they're not going to run Julian saying. And then he has a wide open lane up the middle to get the

53:43first down. And they're, and they're in man defense and all the, all the defenders are run off on deep routes. And he's back there and it takes off. Like he can do that and he can learn how to slide or he can learn how to get down. So again, we not saying we need to run him and pound him like JT bear it. No way. He's not that dude, but he can certainly be savvy enough to pick up five yards here, seven yards there and, and use him situationally to confound the defense. Like period. So I'm excited about this quote. And I think we're going to see growth with this, Nevada. So you have it. Well, Arthur Smith ran Aaron Rodgers last year. They ran some option with Aaron Rodgers. And Aaron Rodgers is a hundred years old and two bad knees that can't, you know, I mean, I could outrun Aaron Rodgers and they ran him. So if they could run Aaron Rodgers, you can sure as heck run jail four time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers, you can sure as heck run Julian saying.

54:48Come on. Yep. And my last thing I'll say because again, this has been a contentious back and forth in general with fans is that I do agree with something on the chat. Now, okay, I have some some understanding for coach day and any coach when you have chugging off behind your quarterback or a, you know, somebody you notice not that can't play that well. I understand the angst of not running your quarterback too much because you are done so if they get hurt. Now, in this case, last year Lincoln King holds, I don't think he was, he wasn't great, but he wasn't bad. I think he could have been fine. Maybe he's no chugging off this year. I have confidence in Tavion saying clear in his third year. I think there may be more confidence to hey, we don't want saying to get

55:48hurt, but if he did, Tavion, this is his third year and he's pretty darn good. I think we'll be okay. So I'll end it with that. I don't know if you wanted to respond to that before we get the super chats, but no, I just don't, I just don't think you can ever live your life just more than about the, you know, I mean, if Julian saying, if Julian saying could get hurt in practice, Julian saying could get hurt carrying a TV up and down the stairs. Like, that's about, you know, there's a million ways that people can get hurt. So, you know, our offense will never reach its full potential until you activate the quarterback run. It just won't, it's impossible to do it in modern football. You have to present that as a threat to the opposition until you do that, you're just making it, you're making it so hard. Yeah, I agree. This fun, this is funny from Bootzilla. Chugs was a Buckeye legend for that couple of minutes. Yeah, when Justin Fields went out and Chugs came in. They've been thrown, remember they had them throw and he had to go open.

56:52If you'd have fun to touch on past Chugs, I mean, Chugs, they'd have named like some cauliflower pizza after Chugs up there at the little brown drug up in Michigan or something like that. It had been the paid shivers and Chugging Offscoot, cauliflower pizza. Oh goodness. I remember when Chugs went in that game, I was just like, Jesus Christ, Lord help us. But that is funny. He said he was a legend. All right, let's get into these super chats. Kevin Noobie, thanks for the 199. Player count for James Smith, Mike Hall, O'Hnavada? I owe. What do you think about this? I haven't watched enough about James Smith. I think size-wise, they're comparable because James Smith is only like two, six, two and a half. I don't know if he's as quick as Mike Hall is. What are your thoughts on this? I mean, that's a good comp. Like you say, we can only hope he can, he's half the player that he is. But physically, they're similar size and similar build. I mean, he's, he's not a big, you know, a big guy, you know, he's not, you know,

57:57but he's, he's definitely, you know, kind of square stocky. He looks like every, you know, Alabama lineman from the past 20 years, it's like they, you know, like those guards from the third Star Wars movie, the return of the Jedi when they went there and they have those guards marching those little stocky guys that are with the thing and the helmets and stuff. That's what he lineman. That's Alabama D lineman, man. He looks just like what I mean, because he's just, he's just square and very, very difficult to move. And like I said, I think my call is a good comp. I hope he's, I hope he's half the player of the microscope. Mike was a stud here to honestly. Yeah, he was. So yeah, we'll see. I cannot wait. We, we talked about yesterday. I cannot wait to see the Bama boys out there in this system. And Quay Resolve, thanks to road tide, you know, for his insight as a Bama fan, road tide for life, for being healthy. He was, he missed five games last year. So I'm extra paying attention to Quay Resolve. Stilly Matt, thanks for the 199.

59:03Billy D Tech Mo Bo Bo Jackson. He's referring to my, I love this shirt. I wear it. I rotated every, you know, every now and then I won't wear it. I will wear it every day if I could and not be caught a bum on the podcast. Did you wash your shirt? Be Moses? I love this shirt. It's just an idea. I came up if I had it pressed. Maybe I should sell these Nevada. Maybe I should, you know, make these available. But I'm a nostalgic Tech Mo Bo fan. So thanks for shouting out out Stilly. Anything on that Nevada? Oh, you can just put like the B Moses plays in there from your high school. It's like B Moses left B Moses right. B Moses, B Moses found the middle or B Moses shoots the fall away Jay because B Moses is tired. I can't drive to the rim anymore. You know, I'm sorry. Hey, maybe I can. Maybe I can have like different styles of shirts like this, you know, yeah, with, with different playbooks on it. That might be an idea. I like it. Let's do it. All right, say I'm eight, five, three, six, two. Thanks for the 49. I think it's safe to say we have the three best names for running

1:00:06backs in college football with Bo Jackson, Legend Bay and several Rogers. That's a great, that's a great point. That is, that you're right. I would defy any university to match up against what we have name wise for our running backs. That's an absolute great point, Nevada. I think they're going to be the only thing to be better if we had a fourth kind of like Archie Griffin or something like that. But yeah, those are those are those are that's a great super Jack. Those are those are three quality running back names for sure. And yeah, yeah, I mean, Bo Jackson, we're going up as Bo Jackson, you know, there reminds me of that ESPN commercial. They they have there's an old ESPN commercial where they'd be like reservation for Michael Jordan and it was some little white guy and everybody's like, all disappointed. Yeah, Michael George, but I mean, Bo Jackson, that's a similar thing. And he comes in and rushes for over a thousand yards of Ohio State. So yeah, Bo, Bo legend and turbo man, I love it. And what made that commercial even funnier is the white

1:01:11Michael Jordan, he anticipated the disappointment every time. He did a great job of like, yeah, no table for Michael Jordan. Yeah, that was good. That was good. All right, still he mad, thanks for the 199. This must be inside joke. Shout out the carp lips. And he has some kissy emojis and laugh emojis. Ha, shame. Listen, our chat is crazy. They have inside jokes galore. I don't get this one, but I don't need to because it's hilarious to them. And they have a ton of fun on his dag on three. Nevada. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's hard to I'm I'm glad that I can't see because it'd be too distracting because there's so much good stuff going on. It is very distracting. You have to read the thing, do the stuff. It means like you need hazard payment for all that you're doing man. Yeah, because I'm literally listen, listen to Nevada just, you know, you know, just eloquently make his point in my eyes or in a jet light. He just say that they might.

1:02:16I'm just like, oh, man, Nevada's over here cooking. And I'm just seeing him just, you know, all types of hilarity, but that's why we got the best chat in the land. All right, so Nevada going to have to fight Joe B for Jessica. Another inside joke that Nevada actually get to though. But still he met once again. Thanks for the 199. Yes, this had me weak. And I know Nevada was not trying to be funny. Julian saying it is not a porcelain doll. I know he was not. That was not like some punchline. Oh, this is really going to get them laughing, but it was hilarious because I'll picture Julian Seder out there running around like a porcelain doll and just shattering into a million pieces. Yeah, thinking of a first down. You think that you think that you think the way they treat him that that that he is, but no, he's actually actually it's like, so I saw him rush for a 100 yards in a high school game. He's a tough kid. He can do it. Brian just got to give him a green light and then let's go. You know what? I might be able to do. I might be

1:03:21able to. I might clip your comments and make a video like a real of him actually running in high school and running out of house. They because people forget he actually ran and picked up first down to your house. They his freshman year and last year. Remember, so he's capable. So I might have you saying Julian saying it's not a porcelain doll as he's running down field. Hmm, I got some ideas. That might be a good sound bite. I like it. Yeah. All right. Cool. Fun show. Great show. First day of spring footballs in the books. It was very eventful. We will be getting much more intel, more information as the practice days roll by. I'm excited. Any last words about it? If we bang out of here, not just great first day, but really, really good. I mean, first days usually don't go like this. This is a really good first day of spring football and can't wait for day two. Absolutely. All right. Remember, we got dev coming up shortly. Make sure you hop on with dev.

1:04:25I mean, he's going to get you some great content per usual great information. Book at school family, book at nation love y'all until tomorrow. We'll see you at end. Go Bucks and peace. You

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