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Nobody Chooses Pain (With Dr Glenn & Phyllis)

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A trigger isn't an overreaction — it's stored pain asking to come out. From a rainforest compound in Costa Rica (howler monkeys included), Glenn and Phyllis unpack what's really happening when someone gets "triggered," why the brain can't tell the difference between a stubbed toe and an old wound, and why our instinct to calm people down is doing the opposite of helping. Phyllis shares the morning she walked away from a conversation feeling "off" — and turned back around. Glenn shares why he Oooed the stranger screaming at him through a car window. This is an honest, sometimes raw conversation about making space for pain instead of putting the lid back on the jar.

In this episode:

  • The working definition of trauma: a current emotional response based on a past event
  • Why "just choose joy / stop choosing pain" is something we'd never say to a six-month-old
  • The four Phrases — and when not to use the second one
  • Why calming someone down tamps the emotion into the body instead of out of it
  • The jar metaphor: holding sacred space vs. snapping the lid back on
  • Phyllis crying in front of a room of strangers in Switzerland — and why it connected them
  • A live, issue-specific Core Emotion Wheel on one of their most intimate, tender topics

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