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Logan just did a deep dive into some of the names and free agency that will be linked
to Washington for you,
so make sure you go back and listen to that.
But I wanted to get into some of the draft class tight end options here for Washington.
Now, Kenyans and Deeks just not going to fall into a range,
where they're going to have a big sort of them moving back in the first round,
because he's going in the middle of the first round after seven and way before 71.
But my god, this Oregon player, uh, who looks to me like just a plus size wide receiver,
he was clocked at a 439-40 yard dash,
which shouldn't be possible at the tight end position.
What do you think of him as a prospect?
We know he's fast.
What do you think?
Yeah, I actually like watching him on film.
You know, like I think he's,
we talk about being competitive and being urgent in the run game.
I think you see a nice verticality to his past game.
There is some route running technicalities that I kind of like just like,
when you see like linear athletes that are that big,
there's some technical route running stuff that pops up,
but I think attacking the scene,
I think he's, he's sudden enough to run like a choice route.
The thing with him is he's got a meat,
I believe like a certain in line threshold.
And that's always tough now.
I think when you're seeing these players move to like,
there are these defenses, excuse me,
move to like these big nickel looks,
like with Nick Aminwari, for example.
Like you're losing some of the advantage of having Kenyansadeek on the field,
because Nick Aminwari matches up pretty good with him.
And you say, well, Kenyansadeek, can you block in line?
Can we force them to get in the base?
And to me, that becomes a big question, right?
Like George Kiddles, one of my favorite,
maybe my favorite tight end in the NFL at the moment,
like because he's an animal in line,
so he forces an adaption from the defense to get in the base.
And he can win on one-on-one.
Kenyansadeek do that.
I think he's competitive in line, right?
He shows it on tape, he likes blocking.
But are you good enough to force that base adaptation from the defense?
So that's where I think that's a really interesting kind of conversation
for him moving forward.
And again, he's a playmaker, he's dynamic, he's explosive.
But just a thought about him as a player.
And like, where the position is going,
and how he fits in that progression with defenses,
and how they're trying to adapt to this 12-personnel renaissance
that offense is thrown out there.
There's no real consensus after Sadeek in terms of who the number two guy in the draft class is.
And that's a question I'll have you answer in a second.
But I'm going to lead you here for a moment to Eli Stowers and a Vanderbilt
who's bounced around, A&M, to New Mexico, state, to Vandy.
I've talked to enough people who cover the draft that have him as their number two guy.
Would he be available at 71 potentially?
He's coming off 60 catches for almost 800 yards.
Nine touchdowns the last couple of years in the SEC.
Is that a guy who might be available for a Washington in the third round?
Initially, I thought maybe very strong maybe when we first started the process.
But now I don't think there's any way that happens.
I think coming off the combine, he sets a combine record with a 45-and-a-half inch vertical.
He's got an 11-4-5 broad jump.
I think he set the record for Titan on broad jump as well.
Round of 4-5-1.
And when you watch the tape, Vanderbilt, it's good tape, man.
Especially in the past game.
We talk about Kenyans Sadeek as a pass catcher.
I think Eli Stowers is significantly better in that area,
like just his ability.
He's a former quarterback.
His ability to feel zones.
The way he's able to work double sticks and the footwork stuff.
And then the route running nuance from last year to this year has gotten significantly better.
The inline stuff, they don't ask him to do a lot of it.
He's passable in that area.
And so I wonder if teams are like, basically,
you're going to be a big slot for us.
So a role for him.
I think we'll be really interesting to keep an eye on as we go through the process.
But he's a stud.
Catches the football well, smart, competitive.
I've worked with them a little bit.
I don't think there's any way it gets out of the second round to be honest with you.
Well, I didn't realize you've worked with him.
Which of these guys have you worked with?
I've worked with Eli Stowers.
I've worked with Jack Andrews, who's a stud from Texas.
And then I've worked with
Jerm Bernard from Alabama, the receiver.
And then Shribbling from Old Miss, who ran the 4-3-4 at the Combine.
And all those guys were,
this offseason were just incredibly impressive,
like, on the board.
So a really smart group.
And then there's a couple other guys that I worked with.
Chase Roberts from BYU,
Carson, the tight end from BYU.
So there's a couple guys that have worked with this year, for sure.
So then your tight end big board, so to speak.
I mean, would Sadiq be ahead of set hours for you or no?
Yeah, I think so.
I think just like the stuff in line.
But again, if you wanted a pass catcher,
like a playmaker, like kind of third down piece.
Like I do, like I do, like that.
Yeah, I think Eli is a little bit more refined there.
But again, like, where are you as a run blocker?
Like, it's he's got some work to do there.
Former.
Who else is up there with those guys for you?
To me, I think after those two guys,
it's a little bit of like duties in the eye of the beholder.
So like, everyone's talking about Max Clare.
And it's kind of unfair to Max Clare.
Like as Kenyne Sadiq looks like an action hero,
like he just like at the Combine is walking around,
like with, you know,
18 inch arms, like fricking jack to get a six pack.
Eli Stowers just moves like a mutant basically,
because he's so explosive.
And then Max Clare is just kind of,
he gets a lot of hype.
But when I watch the film of him, like I see a good football player,
but I don't see any of those elite explosive measurements on film
that make me think like he's going to be the next guy.
Michael Trigg is a guy that from an explosive standpoint
really shows up, but is basically a big wide receiver
and has like zero compete in the run game.
I get really nervous about him.
He was basically asked to leave,
asked to leave USC, then asked to leave bold miss.
So, you know, I have my biases, obviously,
but it takes a lot for USC to ask you to leave, right?
Like being a UCLA guy, like I know what it takes.
So my antenna are up there.
Justin Jolly from NC State, converter wide receiver.
I actually was really impressed with him at the senior bowl.
And he came in much bigger than I thought.
He was 6'3", he was 255 pounds,
but has a little bit of that move element to him
and is a very tough football player.
Like urgent, it's important to him.
Size is a little bit of a concern for me,
but like I like the player.
I just don't know where the value on a player
like that would be potentially.
One guy you haven't named, did I see up some boards,
but it's funny.
There's people that love him and people that don't
is Joe Royer from Cincinnati.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think Mel Kuiperazum is his number two tight end
in the draft still, which is interesting.
You don't see that in a lot of places.
Yeah, and so he's a Cincinnati.
And the film there is good.
I think the thing that I would like,
I'm curious about Royer is like, how are you going to run?
Like you basically play like slot wide receiver at Cincinnati.
You're big, you're 6'5", almost 6'6", 240-ish pounds.
But like, what are you?
Like, can you, his inline stuff is lacking,
but most of these guys are to be fair to him.
And I give you're going to line up in the slot.
Like, I need to see you win consistently in one-on-one situations.
But they are kind of in this spread out look.
Like, they don't really challenge him.
So I had a really hard time with his evaluation, honestly,
because I was kind of like, are you good enough in line?
Are you good enough in the slot?
And I feel like he didn't really meet the threshold
for both of those areas.
So I'm a little bit lower on him than Mel Kuiper,
but like, what do I know?
So there's other guys that I like a lot more in this draft class
that I think are studs like Sam Roush from Stanford.
He's going to be a Y, but his tape is excellent.
Jack Andrews, you just talked about.
Oscar Delt from Georgia is one of the more interesting players
to me in this draft class, because he's good in line,
and he can run fast.
So I'm kind of like what's got, like, Jack Andrews
is crazy route running nuance.
He's competitive in line, but like people know about Jack.
But Oscar Delt, like, no one's talking about him.
And he didn't get a lot of targets at Georgia.
So I'm kind of like, what's going on?
Because when I cut the film on that every time I watch Georgia,
I'm like, this dude's a stud.
Eli Rodin from Notre Dame basically played big slot for them,
but also did some stuff in line.
He's six, six, six, five and a half technically, 245 pounds,
nice, linear athlete.
I thought he sank his hips and moved a little bit better
at the combine that I was expecting.
Nate Broadwayker, like from A&M, didn't get a lot of targets at A&M,
but at the Senior Bowl was one of the best tight ends there.
And on the fieldwork at the combine,
just caught the ball extremely well, like, really dexterous hands.
So, like, these guys are guys that I think
are better football players down the board a little bit.
So let's end the conversation on tight ends here.
If I was to tell you they take one at 71,
with what is their second pick early in round three,
and this becomes a player who actually, like, the plan is,
instead of a free agent, like, this is the guy
that on third down is on the field for them.
Like, who do you like as a fit there?
Yeah, I think, obviously, like Mike Isaac,
Andrews, I think, would do a fine.
I think his route running nuance is very good.
And then I think Justin Jolly would be excellent at role.
And I want Oscar Delp to be in that role
because of how he moves.
But I'm really disappointed he didn't do the fieldwork
because I didn't see him catch the football.
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Why didn't they use your athletic movement skills at
Georgia Moore?
Like, that's my big question with him.
But, you know, Eli Rowden would be an either guy,
like, again, taller guy, but has some of that kind of
colston-leveling matchup issue to him.
Like, this is a really fun, tight-end class man.
And like, you know, Dallin Bentley from Utah is another guy
that has really nice movements.
Those catch the football well.
And all in the crazy thing, Grant,
is all these guys that I'm talking about ran sub 462.
Like, they're all fast.
So like, maybe they have more at the NFL level.
It's a really compelling group.
And so if they wanted to go this way,
I mean, I think there's a great opportunity.
And then like, if they wanted to go like in the fifth round,
I think like Tanner Colesier from Houston,
it's like kind of this big basketball,
more of like a mismatch guy in that way.
Or like Martin Klein from Michigan, like,
big kind of basketball mismatch piece out there too.
So, but those would be later round guys.
But this is a really compelling class,
because there's a bunch of big athletes in this group.
And it just depends on like how you see their role
at the next level.
I like Justin Jolie from NC State a lot.
That would be exciting.
Yeah, on that.
Two years ago, the average 15 yards of catch this past year,
he caught seven touchdowns,
he's a little differently,
so it was 10 yards per catch.
But right about a thousand yards
and almost 90 catches the last two years,
I like his game.
Yeah, no, I think he's a good football player.
And he's growing on me throughout the process,
because like, I was unsure if the body type would play.
But watching him at the senior bowl,
watching him in the red zone,
watching him in center there, one on one third down stuff,
like I color me intrigued by him for sure.
So there's your tight end breakdown.
We're going to be taking different positions in each episode
and doing dives like this,
taking out shovels into pre-agency
and the draft class with Logan watching the tape.
Thanks for listening to Take Command.
We're back at it next week.
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