MonsterQuest Director Comes Forward with HIS Encounters!

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2:05and it's an executive producer of the show Monster Quest currently. How is it going today, Jared? Oh, that's great, Jared. How are you doing? Dude, doing so good. I'm just really glad that our mutual friend Adam Davies was able to connect us and Adam reached out and was like, you should talk to Jared. He's heading up the Monster Quest thing. I was like, yeah, yeah, I think that'd be a good idea. Adam, I'll do that. And Adam, we trust. Yeah, exactly. Well, I was like, as long as he does, yeah, Bigfoot stuff to talk about. And he's got Bigfoot stuff to talk about. I don't worry about it. If I know Adam, I must have some Bigfoot stuff to talk about. Exactly. So, Jared, man, let's start with the Monster Quest stuff. I've seen a few episodes already and it's cool to see really people that I consider to be my friends from this community show up on screen. You were able to get some really good witnesses. Can we talk about? I'm not going to spoil anything, right?

3:06It's out in the open now, so that's all right. It's out there. Let's talk about it. I mean, if first episode right out of the gate, you were able to get Mr. Martin Groves. Such a fantastic story, his dog man account from Land Between the Lakes in Martin's such a great individual. And then, of course, a good friend comes to mind, Mr. Daniel Hamilton. Daniel, yeah. And man, you guys did a great job showing his encounter. And it really makes you think about it a different way. Like, oh, yeah, he was up in the tree in that tree stand. And that's what was going on. And it's like, oh, my goodness. I love what you guys are doing with this stuff. Thanks a lot. Yeah, those stories. Yeah, Martin was, yeah, I love Martin. Just what a sweet, kind, generous guy. And, you know, Martin, we owe a lot to just in terms of the show coming to be at all, because that was the story we actually filmed for the development or sizzle step that actually got it across the finished line and had history fully commissioned the series.

4:09So Martin's story was sort of like always our north star. You know, it's hard to start with someone like Martin. And then, you know, I have every other story. Try to stack up to it. But now he's so generous with his time and his story's just, I mean, just unforgettable, unforgettable story. And Daniel's great. Yeah, I love Daniel. He just, his story was, you know, it's, I love those stories that have like that weird element to it. It's like, you just couldn't, you, you, the untying of a shoe. It's just the most bizarre occurrence, you know, and I, and sort of, I love those aspects of those stories that are feel like very one of a kind. And his story definitely feels one of a kind like that. Listen to what, listen to this on February 2nd. And as of, so the second, how many episodes will you have out, do you think? That'll be our sixth episode. So six of the eight. Yeah, and the episode coming up this week is great. I mean, I don't know if you're in Barton, none of the, Barton, you got Barton.

5:11His is, his story is just, it's actually one of my favorite edits, stories and just edit and pieces of the series. It's got such character to it and it's fun. It's just, in the music is kind of unforgettable. I'm really excited to see that. I'm always more nervous for like Barton to see his story, you know, that, that let's feel like a lot of pressure with that. But Barton's great. This guy named Michael Cain, who, who had an encounter. Yes, in Ohio, right? Yeah, you got it. You think you're at Fort? Yep, the grass man, you got it. Yeah, I kind of, I kind of know the field a little bit, right? Yeah. Dude, that's great. Michael's great and his story is just, just also very cool and weird. And he's got some cool footage. So yeah, there's, we have a Times slip story, Gwen Johns. I don't know if you're familiar with Gwen Johns, but a Times slip of this Friday is really interesting. Nice. And then a woman named Joni Mayhem, who had an encounter when she was a kid as well. So yeah, really cool stories.

6:13But Barton and Michael's are real fun. Yeah, I'll be excited for you to see this, Jeremiah. And that's why another reason I really like the show right now, because half of it is like, oh, I know this person. I know this story. It's a new interpretation for me because it's bigfoot stuff. But then also, you're throwing in other stuff too, which is like, I've never heard of this and this is really cool. So it's kind of a cool mixed bag. But, you know, Jared, let's talk a little bit about, you know, you have a history of doing so many shows. I was looking through nomadica films, your website. And you've done everything from, you just did the, was a gold and greed, the Netflix series, right? That was you and all sorts of stuff in the past. But how did you get set up and linked up with the Monster Quest series? Because, you know, this isn't the, there was Monster Quest back in the day. And then, out of nowhere, it's back. Like, how did that happen? It's back, baby. Yeah, it's a cool story.

7:13I mean, I think I'd always been interested in, in cryptids. I grew up in the Seattle area at Washington State. So, you know, Sasquatch and Bigfoot was definitely just part of my, the culture of where I grew up. And then, you know, years and years and years ago, in the original installment of Monster Quest. I produced one of their episodes and we went to Nepal looking for the Yeti. And so, that was sort of my first time, that's where I met Adam. And I really, you know, I think that the way that the initial, initial series of Monster Quest approached these types of stories and investigations. It was so objective. It was so, it was very, it's trying to be as since scientific as it could be. And I really appreciated that. I thought that that was like such a, an interesting approach, both for sort of like believers and non-believers, you know. And so, I, honestly, this sort of cryptid world was something. Obviously, I met Adam, Adam and I talk a lot. And so, you know, this has always just been a part of an interest level of mine.

8:17And, you know, we're, as you said in America, like we're pitching whether it's Netflix, History Channel, Discovery Channel constantly. And so, we had sat down on the History Channel and we're batting around a few ideas and, you know, sort of a cryptid show came up. And it wasn't Monster Quest, you know, initially. It was just sort of, hey, this could be a really cool show. There's more sightings and there's more, you know, with social media and podcasts like yours. It's like there's more access to more stories than ever before. And I felt, you know, I always think about like why now is a good time for bringing it back. And that for me was kind of like a big reason. It's like there's just access to so many stories. And yeah, it started as a conversation and then, you know, we ended up shooting a little development tape with Martin and put a deck together and sort of outlined our vision for what the series would be. And they went for it. And then they eventually decided to sort of put it underneath the Monster Quest banner, which I was thrilled with. I was honestly, it was like such an honor to sort of feel like, oh, we're bringing it back. Because it was such a, you know, it was a big part of my history, Monster Quest.

9:20And I just always thought it was such an awesome show. So that's kind of how it all came to be. But it's been a really thrilling way to spend the last year and a half of my life just tunneling into into the world. We just had conversations with people and and long conversations. I mean, really talking about, you know, and someone's going to be, hey, you should meet such and such person or you should talk to such, you know, we really wanted to make sure people understood what the show was and what the show was not. You know, this wasn't a show where we were trying to prove or disprove someone's encounter, you know, where we're trying to undercut it. Or, you know, we really were just trying to present these stories as objectively as possible and then build the history around them. And the history was fascinating to dig into, you know, it's some of these occurrences. I would have thought when we met the witnesses, oh, that must be just a one-off. There's no such thing as a one-off experience. I mean, there just, there really isn't. You got it. But it truly was word of mouth. I mean, we talked to hundreds of people, you know, and I really hope you had another season because there's just so many more amazing stories. And I think, you know, what we, you know, you kind of start in the casting process and,

10:22you know, you sort of, you have like your top tier and then you kind of fill it out. And obviously each, each episode is themed. Now that we've been through the first season, so many of those stories that didn't quite make it for that first, for the first season, like I would be thrilled to bring into the fold. And I'm sure you know a lot of those people. I mean, there's just, there's no shortage of these, of these encounters. And they take you all over the globe, all over the United States, all different types of people. There's not a type of person that necessarily like has these encounters, you know. So yeah, it was really, it was all word of mouth, but really just trying not to, I really wanted the show to be defined. It is defined truly by like the witnesses. And I really wanted credible witnesses that not only would speak to the people who are already within the cryptic community and know them, but also the people, you know, the general history audience. And maybe you didn't watch the, you know, the first installment of Monster Quest that are coming fresh. And I, so I, you know, finding people that I felt were speaking very confidently

11:25with a lot of credibility with sort of like, you know, like the Daniel Hamilton details. It's like why, you know, you could, so, you know, I was looking for specific ingredients. It was strength. It was a great storyteller, you know, I don't know if you know the judge was Shane. Yeah, yeah, the dog man story, right? Yeah. But I mean, he's such a, such a, he's an amazing storyteller. You know, it's like he delivers his story with such confidence and clarity and incredible detail. And I think no matter whether you are somebody who is a believer, non-believer, or is a, is the first sort of cryptid story you've heard or like the hundredth or thousand cryptid story you've heard, that confidence level of detail and that, that I think someone speak with means a lot. So, you know, in terms of the, the casting and how he found people, that was really it. It was a lot of zoom calls, very long zoom calls. And then obviously, you know, I get them down in the interview chair and then it's a, you know, two to three hour, two to three hour conversation where you're really trying to pull out those details and those feelings and slow down

12:27the story. But it was a blast. Yeah, it was really a lot of fun. So are, are you having to like travel around the US and meet people where they are or is it a mixture like some people are coming to your studios or like how does, how is that working for this? Yeah, you're right on, it was a mix. So some people we flew, we flew into Seattle, we filmed all everything here. Other people, you know, some people were comfortable traveling or weren't able to travel. So we sort of set up these little satellite areas where, you know, it's kind of close to some people. Um, Martin for the development, we were able to go out, you know, to his home and, and he takes out the land between the lakes. I wish we could do that for every story because it just, I mean, selfishly, it's just a fun, such a fun experience, um, to sort of walk in their shoes and, you know, sit shotgun with Martin and just, just, you know, just spend time with, with those people. But for the most part, yeah, it was a pretty quick process, you know, we, again, we'd have sort of the zoom interview. Then most people we had them flying to Seattle, we'd sit down for a while, talk a little bit about, talk a little bit about where those parts of their story that they

13:28really feel confident and share, you know, and, um, but yeah, I, I really, I think the way I try to approach interviews is I truly am like, enthralled, you know, like, I am, I am locked in when I'm listening to these stories. And that was a lot of fun. But most people, best case scenario, we could fly them out here because it just made it really easy for us. Um, but some people we did go out to where they were. That's awesome. Um, man, I was thinking, and I, maybe, maybe this is a thing where I, you know, I haven't been able to, to watch all of it, of course, yet, but it would be really cool. If you could get Adam's story on one of the episodes. And I'm talking about the Southern Oregon Portal one. You've heard Adam to say that one, right? I think I've heard that story. Adam has a lot of stories. So, yeah, story Adam Davies can only stay away from Monster Quest for so long. I feel like he is due. He's didn't sit in the chair. Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, he'd be great. He'd be great. Okay. Good stuff. It's, it's a, such a, such a great encounter in my goodness. It's so,

14:32so good. So regarding the current season of Monster Quest, um, is there any chance we can get the old graphics back with the super, you know what I'm saying? Like the crazy graphics, can we get that back? Yeah, you know, it's funny. We had that conversation with history. And yeah, I think they really wanted to sort of feel like there was an evolution. You know, there was like, I know within the community, there was like, can we have the graphic? Like it's like some of those really classic elements from, from the old series. Um, you know, I think history really wanted to sort of freshen it up. I would say a little bit. Um, but absolutely, I, I miss those, those original graphics and the original, just, there's something, you know, when you have that, it's like it, it makes, it's like, uh, it's like a hug. You know, it is, it really is. Yeah. And I'm speaking, so I'm speaking because I hear a lot from the community and they're like, they're like on their knees, they're like, give us history, give us the old graphics back. We want to see those old

15:34graphics and like, who knows? Maybe history, maybe not. But hey, I'm, I'll make a push. If we give him a seat, I'll make a strong push. I promise you, I'll make a strong push. All right, there we go. I'll give you a whole credit for, for, for, for, for making it happen. There you go. There you go. I've seen even people on TikTok making videos about, I'm like, oh my goodness, this is a pretty big deal. Okay. All right. It's kind of cool, though. It's neat to see how like the, the original series, it was, it meant a lot to people. You know, I think it was a little before its time. It introduced, I think a lot of people to the worlds of cryptids and, um, on a global scale. And I think there's some very cool people within the cryptid community like Adam Davies and, um, Jeff Maldrum and, and a lot of people that were, that were doing some really, really cool work. Um, so yeah, I totally get, I totally get the, the, the want to have that, that original, those original graphics back. So that's just me throwing my little two cents in there. But, you know, Jared, can you take us back to,

16:36I think it's fascinating that you were involved with the first monster quest in the, uh, Nepal episode. Do you have any memories of, of what it was, or stories you're able to share of what it was able, what it was like to be able to be, you know, in the, uh, filming or involved with that episode and any cool things you had happen over there. Oh, man. I mean, how much time do you have, Jared? Yeah. That was a, that was, uh, a lifelong memory. I felt like I was dying on that shoot. Like, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was an incredible adventure, harrowing. So yeah, I mean, we had, um, you know, I had been brought on to basically do mostly the field production of that, of that episode. So I connected with Adam, you know, and it was like, hey, Adam, you want to go to the Apollo and look for the Yeti and, you know, I think, you know, Adam's pretty game for, for, very basically everything. Oh, yeah. And then I really was into trying to find, get in touch with this guy named Ian Redmond, who was this, he's a great expert. He used to work with Diane Fosse

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19:43history is with great apes. And I just thought that was such a cool a cool team. And then we we brought in, you know, a lot of the focus on that was trying to go back to the place where they had found some evidence. And so there was this old climber named Yagi Harra. Really cool guy. And Yagi had basically was up in this really remote area of Nepal, very altitude and seen a a print, a track. And it, you know, sort of was it was there's some headlines about it's some information. And so I got in touch with him and I said, hey, well, you lead us back to that area where you found that track. Now, Yagi Harra, like, he's summited Everest multiple times. I mean, he's a very accomplished climber, which was cool. I mean, a lot of the stories of the Yeti are from local folklore and climbers, you know, you have Rhino Messner and different climbers that have that really access these remote parts of the world. So the other thing we had done, because this was sort of before the age of drones, not that drones, I must your drones can actually operate at that altitude.

20:47But he had worked with this company, they're out of New Zealand or Australia. And they had built us this this helium platform, which we attached a infrared camera to and then it had a signal down that atom or whoever could hold. And so at nighttime, we could basically lift this thing up. Anyway, we we get to Nepal. I mean, we were we were very ambitious. We had, we hella coptered out to this remote village, drop in with 36 Sherpas bringing, you know, all of our gear, just six day trek deep into the Himalayas. Remember this guy I still have, actually, this is it right, this is it right here. So this little piece of twine right here is a very famous piece of twine. This is the twine that he wrote, he he used to basically, he had a giant helium tank and he wrapped it around his forehead like this in flip flops and hiked, you know, and trucked, you know, five days carrying this thing with this piece of twine. So when he was done, I was like, can I have a snip of

21:48that twine? I feel like that's like the most other piece of twine I've ever seen. And so anyway, we went up there. Every day was it was it was it was tough going straight up straight down straight up straight down net with some some remote villagers who had stories along the way. And then we sort of reached this point and sort of the plan was always to sort of split the teams. So, you know, Adam and Ian were confident that there was, you know, there was the area that Yagi had gone to, which was very, very high altitude. And then there was this other area down below that was more along a riverbed. And you know, Adam and Ian were both like the riverbed is truly more of the habitat likely for a creature like this more than this sort of desolate high altitude place where Yagi saw that print. So he split. So half and I mean, my crew is like just my best buddies. I mean, that's kind of like the business, right? You cut it. You say, hey, buddy, you want to go to the fall with me? So, you know, my buddy Sean and Ryan are with me. So they stuck with Ian. And then

22:50Adam, myself, this guy named Mick who was sort of in charge of that aerial platform. And Yagi Hara, we continued up. Now our expedition company that we had hired to sort of, you know, help coordinate this whole event. You're like, you're not going to encounter any snow this type of year. Don't worry about it. Jeremy, there's snow everywhere everywhere. And we're just on this pitch where we, we eventually get to this, this pitch and it is no joke. The mountain is like this. And there's no trail. So you're, you know, you're just sort of walking with your feet like this. And I'm not, I don't love heights, but somehow with my jobs, I was end up in those situations. But you're like, you're walking like this, creating basically like a 12, 18 inch little walkway that you can walk along. We get up to this, this location. I mean, gorgeous though. I mean, just, yeah, I love those moments in life. You're like, how the heck did I get here? Like just amazing. So we scouted the area. We put up the balloon at night a few times. Didn't catch anything. But my DP,

23:54who I had worked with multiple times, oh man, I'm already realizing I'm skipping over a few parts of the story that are great. There are places where like, like the trail we on was not like a hiking expedition trail. It was like the old, you know, the, Nepal was a monarchy and it was overthrown by the mouse. And so it used to be this sort of the rebels used to live up in the mountains. And they would use these trails to basically get into, get into, to more of the, of the city. And so there were, there were areas where the trail was completely gone. And you had almost basically free climb over this cliff. And like, where are all legs are shaky. And then you'd have like these, you know, local villagers are just walking it like it's nothing. But we get up to this altitude. And this DP, this guy named Jeff Rhodes, who's incredible in some of the Everest twice in a day, just really accomplished climber. He's like, listen, Jared. But we just did, it was incredibly dangerous. Like, we got to get there. We got to get, we, we, I know you guys have evac insurance, we should evac because if someone slips, there's, we have no ropes. We have no crab bonds. We have like nothing, nothing to sort of like if something goes wrong.

24:55And so, and then it's fog. You know, it's just like knowing that the expedition company didn't expect snow. And anyway, so, so we finished our filming. We go to a place to the track. We don't, we don't quite get the information we want. But it was a great expedition, great story. It was time to go, so cool to go back up there with the Agihara. And, and it's just me and my little crew of like four to five people. Adams, Adams there too. And all the surface left. And I remember I gave all the, all my flashlights and torches because I was like, I'm not going to do this. Helicopters come in to pick us up. We don't need it. So we're sitting up there in snow field. We clear off this big helicopter landing plan. And there's only one helicopter in all of Nepal that can reach us altitude, just one. So we hear it coming through the mountains. And you're seeing it come in and you're like, oh man, this is, I'm just like this even with this epic trip out of here. It's going to be so cool. It comes. It circles once. It circles twice. And it leaves. And then we're just like, oh, we had very little food. We had very little water.

26:02We had all of our gear. It was only the lead Sherpa. He's known as MB. He was our Sardar up there. And his nephew. And it was just my crew. And we're like, we have no choice. Like basically, basically the wind shear was too high that he couldn't land. He was too afraid to use him to crash. And so it's probably, actually, I guess it is probably middle of the afternoon. And it was a two day trek up to this place. And so we quadruple up our loads on our packs. And we just start heading out. And I remember at one point, I remember thinking like, my legs were starting to shake. And I remember thinking, oh, my God, I mentally, like, I mentally beating myself. I remember I gave myself a strong pep talk. But people were crying, scared. It was, it was harrowing. And we climbed out of there all through the night. We walked pitch black. I had Adam gave me this little, like a little pencil light, like probably the size of this little pen right here, you know, like the size of my thumb. And it was, and it was flickering. The battery

27:06was just about to go out because in the cold, you know, batteries go real quick. And we're just pointed at my, my feet. And I would just remember walking down, down, down. I remember trying to envision that my legs were just tree trunks, his my knees are so bad. We dropped thousands of feet in elevation. We finally get to the camp. Must be like three in the morning, four in the morning. People are waiting out for us and be my sonar just breaks down in tears. He's like, I'm so sorry. We failed you. Anyway, it was, you know, all these moments, all these adventures, where in the moment you're like, this is crazy. But you get through it. And you're just like, that was awesome. You know, there's like an incredible experience. The guys down at this day down at the river with Ian saw a couple cool, found a couple of cool skeletons of different creatures. But no sign. And I remember Ian said a couple things to me on that trip. That really stuck with me in terms of sort of me understanding, you know, I was sort of thought, how can these cryptids exist? And we don't see them. You know, or we see them in times what there's no like the photographic video evidence is minimal. We're not singing the bodies.

28:11And he was like, listen, you know, he said, you know, even the mountain gorillas of Runga, they weren't found until not that long ago. And before then, they were just like the idea, they were travelers, tales and local folklore. And not until two British adventures went and killed one and brought it back, did science finally recognize not gorilla as more than just local folklore and travelers tales. And here in Nepal, we have a creature in the Yeti that is probably less than number in a more remote area. And he's like, we may not have seen that Yeti. But if the Yeti does exist, it's a high likelihood that Yeti saw us, you know. And that perspective, that scientific perspective, it's really carried with me until today. You know, and I think like that, that I love that feeling of understanding that there's more out there in the world than what like, you know, than what science or what, you know, within what we're told

29:12as we're kids growing up is like these are the biological, you know, animals. These are the animals that we share this awesome planet with. And so, yeah, that gave me a really cool perspective. But man, that was such, we did end up getting picked up by a helicopter eventually and and flown back to Kathmandu. But man, that was a epic, epic adventure. It's like, oh my goodness. It's such a cool story. I mean, for one reason, outside of all the adventure, it shows that, so I think a lot of the community, when they heard, well, monster quest is back. It's like, I don't know that name. Uh oh, I'm scared. Is this going to be okay? Does this guy, can this guy protect our precious monster quest? And this guy, Jared, you've been through adventure encrypted related things. Like you're not just some random Joe off the street. Like, oh yeah, I'll do monster quest in the middle. It'll be cool. Like you've actually been out in the trenches. So it's, it's a very cool example of like the show. It isn't good hands, I'd say. So.

30:15Well, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. I think the one thing that it really gave me access to is just under meeting people in the community. You know, and I, and that, that really, I think the perspective of the, the cryptic community is something that I really brought into it and wanting, wanting the series to meet their expectations. You know, obviously, it's not just for that community, it's for a general audience as well as for believers, nonbelievers, skeptics. Um, but I really, you know, knowing, knowing the community, you know, being close to Adam, you know, having a great admiration for people like Martin Gross and Martin Not only a lot of people that we interviewed, the judge, I just really wanted it to be great. I really wanted to be great. And man, we worked our butts off. Like we really, we really obsessed about this thing and really lived it and wanted it to feel like it was a, you know, I missed the days of the expeditions. I wish we were still going out, going on these great adventures and expeditions. It's not where media is right now, but I feel like I felt like with this that we could do something pretty special

31:16still. And I really appreciate you saying that that we're, we're, we're hitting the mark. A story you told you gave me a little bit about. I'm kind of excited because it's, I think it's a bigfoot thing. And I have no idea about the people to do with this story. And I, like I've been doing this for about seven years. And it's at the point where it's like I know like most of the stories, right? But this I think is going to be a totally new one for me. So I'm really curious to hear, you know, what happened when you went out with Adam Davies? And it was an area of the PNW and a home to the big guy. What happened with that? Yeah. So I had come back from I come back from the Paul. And obviously Adam and I had had kept in touch. And we were coming up with all types of different ideas. You know, Adam is, he's hilarious because he goes out of these expeditions and he's an adventure. But man, you know, just like me, he gets winded really

32:17quickly. And it creates the most comical, funny moments. And so we were sort of coming up with all kinds of different ideas. But he was coming to the Northwest at that time. And I was living in Seattle. And he's like, Hey, I'm going on this going up to the North, a place in North Cascades with this woman named Lori Simmons. And Lori Simmons is a daughter of this guy named Donald Lee Wallace. And Donald Lee, while Wallace was this sort of really famous sort of big foot research, I would say back in the day where he lived, he lived it for like 28 years. And this guy just had tapes and piles of cassette tapes that he just recorded. I just sort of envisioned this guy with sort of like a, those old school tape recorders around his neck. And he just walked through the woods just recording, just recording the sounds of nature. Hoping I think that he would record a big footer. It's not like, you know, Ron Moore had tight moments here. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Wheeled in the Claymore can be a life of chaos. But I'm not

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35:23up by five and like two hours into the mountains. It's right at the beginning of spring time. So there's just a little bit of snow on the ground, but not much. And we get up there. And Laurie had been going to this place forever. I mean, is where her father went. So as she had obviously, she went there as a kid. So she really knew this area well. And there was a singular tree that she had gone back to since she was a since she was a child. And she would go up and she'd bring apples and chocolate and she'd talk up to the big guy. You know, I hate the guy. It's me. It's Laurie. And and you know, initially we heard nothing. Like we saw nothing. We heard nothing. And she's like, Oh, you'll hear him. He'll make noise. He'll knock on the, you know, knock on the ground and nothing. Like nothing. And Adam was there. And he had another friend from the UK that was there as well. And he said, Okay, so this point is we kind of walk around a little bit. You know, we sort of look for other evidence. And we don't really see much. And then Laurie's like,

36:25Hey, Jared, you know, why don't I look at my little DSLR camera or a little extra on my chest? This is something fun to have just in case we found something. And she's like, Hey, why don't you come back with me to that tree? But just you and me instead of the whole group, let's just the two of us go. I was like, Sure, sounds good. So I go over there and Laurie's like, Hey, big guy. Hey, it's me, Laurie, you know, and at this point, I'm like, is there? It's almost seen in like this is this is getting a little, a little silly. Like I don't know, I'm not sure we're going to find here anything. You know, this tree and all the sudden, there is this is this growl that comes from my right beneath my feet. And I, I mean, I, I was like, I could have seen my face. I mean, my eyes just, and then it was like, girl, it was in the growling contained. And then it was like, if you're in an apartment building, and someone's below you and there's knocking and saying, Yeah, be quiet up there. It's like it was hitting the ground beneath my feet. And it was like, you could feel you'd hear the boom, boom, boom, like beneath me. And it went on. We sat there,

37:28just Laurie and I for probably 20 minutes, 20, 25 minutes. And it just didn't stop. It went on and on and on. And then Adam came in my buddy Ray. And we are at the base of this tree. This creature, whatever it was, it growled and knocked a bright beneath our feet, like right beneath this giant, giant tree for an hour, an hour and a half probably. And the ground there, I don't know if you know the Northwest, but the whole rainforest, those areas where it's like the ground is really spongy, really mossy. And the ground in this area was just like that, you know, really mossy, spongy, beautiful area, a little bit of snow. And I remember I walked around just been like, there must be some sort of like, how do you get beneath the tree? How was the end of there? Is it a cave? Is it a bear? You know, what is it? But the fact that it was like the same tree that she had been coming to forever, the same tree that her father said, this Sasquatch lived there. And that we went there and we heard these growls. I mean, my buddy, I was just, I just went to the,

38:32I just saw him the other day because he's also, he's my buddy before he's a dentist, but now he's my dentist. And I was like, and every time I see him, we talk about this story, like every single time. And we stayed there for a really long time, and then we left, but I still can't explain it. It was like the weirdest thing I can, I just cannot explain it. And the history around it, and why that exact tree, it was awesome. It was like, you just an unforgettable experience. I actually want to go back up there. I need to get back up to that area and go reinvestigate it, because it was an unforgettable moment. So, when she took you over to the tree, did you guys speak out loud or ask for anything before that happened or just started happening? I don't think we asked for anything. I mean, she would kind of go over there. She was still talk. She kind of, I think she was sort of, she did sort of like knock the ground a little bit with her foot. I mean, she did stomp a little bit. You know, I thought always it at

39:32bear and hibernation, you know, and it kind of just was startled awake. But it was just, I don't know, I'm not sold on that. You know, I really, I'm not like sold at best like exactly what it was, because I'm like, well, she's been there since she was a kid. Like this has been happening since she was a kid going to this singular place. Like, it just feels very, I don't know, I guess I'm likely that it's like the same bear or that, I don't know, I'm not convinced it's a bear. I don't know enough about it to be like to really determine when it was or what it wasn't, but it was so odd and so weird and so unforgettable and so clear. I mean, it wasn't, you didn't have to strain to hear this thing. I mean, it was a very clear growl like right at our feet, like right at our feet. So yeah, I don't know what it did, but she'd been coming there for years. And that's the experience she'd been having for years. And I think it's in a way that she still feels connected to her father who had passed by that time to kind of continue to go back to this to this spot. And you know, I think her father called it the big guy and so she called,

40:33she called this creature the big guy, but her father went to that tree believing that there was a Sasquatch or a big foot in that area. And so she had historically gone to that same area. And Laurie wrote some books, I think Donald Lee Wallace has some books too. But I remember coming back, I thought, man, I'm going to make a feature talk about Donald Lee Wallace. And I'm going to look through all these all these cassette tapes and just like find those, those little sounds. I mean, they were, you know, they were hundreds of tapes, like hundreds of little cassette tapes. And you just think like, what is in there? You know, what I, the time it would take to comb through all this stuff would be incredible. But yeah, I still, I still think about that, his work, what's on those, what's on those dang tapes? It feels like a true crime. What's on the tapes? And that, but that experience was, was awesome. Was awesome. Do you hear any other stories like that? Of like growling coming from belief beneath people's feet or like, I was trying to think and I've never heard one where it's a growl beneath someone's feet. I did, so I don't know if you could

41:40even say it's similar, but I was out in the Willamette National Forest in Oregon this last July. And an area just outside of Oak Ridge is a research area called Oak Hole. The individuals that had up the area 58 Bigfoot Information Center Museum that they hit up. And so I was up in the area, I've been up there a few times and I was up there with people like MK Davis and Ronnie Grossman and all those guys and Don Monroe. And so we go up there and we're trying, they're saying people are playing guitars and so I'm like, you know what? This time I'm going to go out a little bit in the woods by myself, which half of me is like, this is what you tell people not to do dummy. I'm going to do it. What could happen, right? So every, every scary story starts

42:43out. Exactly. It is. Yeah. So I go out in the woods in the area where we've had visuals, but out further in the woods. And I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to try something. I'm just going to say, Hey, if there's any, if there's anything here, can you make a noise? I've never tried it. What what could happen? Half a second later, something in the woods goes knock, knock, knock. I'm like, Oh, no. That just had to be like a weird thing. So I did it again. I asked it again. Half a second later was like, knock, knock, knock. And then I got freaked out and went back to the group. And every day, I'm like, what would happen if I just walked 20 feet into the woods? I've said that story so many times. Then July, my listeners were like, Oh, this story again. But it's like, you don't get it until you're in that situation where it's like, you know, people are like, why didn't you go for it? Well, when you're in a situation like that, things can get really intense, really quick. And I didn't really feel like, you know, a potential missing 4-1-1 that day or missing person. We don't really want to deal with that. You're vulnerable in those moments. Yeah,

43:46you are exactly. It's a good way to put it, you know, whether it's a knock on a tree or a ground or something you see, you're encountering something that you can't explain. And when you can explain something, it's not like, yeah, some people I think would walk further, but a lot, most I think most people would say, I don't know what I'm dealing with. I don't know where I'm at. I'm going to just take a step back to a place. So I could live to tell the story one day. But it is, it's encountering something you cannot explain. And, you know, just going back to sort of, I think, my experience on doing this season of Monster Quest, I mean, and it's hard. That is like every single story. Is somebody counter something they can't explain? And then they go on a journey to try to try to understand it. And I think a lot of people in the community now, that is their entry point. Sometimes often is like, they weren't looking for it. They weren't out there searching. They encounter something they can't explain. And it's brought them to this community to try to understand what that was. Because it's a great, these aren't stories. These

44:51are stories that people obsess about. They think about it daily. You know, it's like a traumatic event. But that's a cool story. That's a cool, well, I mean, it's a beautiful area. That's awesome. It really is. And, you know, just to say another reason why I'm glad that the show is back and is, if you think over the last, well, maybe even like 20, 20 or so years, I mean, every generation has something that for the TV crowd that they're like, okay, I came in within search of, I came in with the original Monster Quest. I came in with Finding Bigfoot or Expedition Bigfoot. And we're at the point where I was like, man, we got to have something on TV outside the internet where, you know, the next generation can come in. So thankful that you guys are here because this is pretty much this generation's like, it's going to get them into it. So that's off to you, gag. I appreciate it. You know, it's fun. I think a lot of these folks have been, obviously, on your podcast and

45:57other podcasts and there's been other things they've done. And I would say the thing is like, the best story should be told over and over and over again. And there's so many different, yeah, I mean, I'm stoked if I'm like, oh, I've heard that story before. Fantastic. But it doesn't mean the Monster Quest audience has heard it before. And how can we offer an audience, or like you said, even for Martin Story or Bartons or something where you know it, but you're seeing a different light. And that's, I think, what we were trying to do. But yeah, it's neat that there are so many outlets for stories and witnesses right now. One, I think it makes people much more comfortable coming forward and feeling, and there's a place where they can try to help wrap their head around what it is that they experienced. So I really appreciate that. Yeah, I couldn't be more thrilled that Monster Quest is back and to have a hand in it. It's pretty awesome. And I agree with you. We are at the point right now where there are so many outlets. And

46:57the way I look at it is hopefully it's all working together for one for people to feel like they can actually tell someone their story and they're not going to be made fun of it. I hope that's hopefully all these stories getting out. Maybe someday we'll get a little bit more information or the truth will start to come out about like what's, what do people really know about Bigfoot in the background? Who knows? I hope that'll happen someday. But you know, one more question about the show, Jared, do you have a witness that you were, I mean, you had to work really hard at or you were really excited to be able to get them on film. One that really stands out to you as like you look at the whole series that you're able to film and you're like, oh, that was probably like amazing that we were able to get that one on film. I can probably say that for most. But the one the one that does come to mind and not just because, but he isn't the sweetest of the set. But

48:01it is also, you know, John Mianchinsky. Oh, yeah, dude. A Wyoming. Wyoming. Right. And he gets like hand the big foot. Yeah. Wind River Mountains. Yeah. Wild life biologists spend his whole life up there living with these big horned sheep sort of following that the the sort of like embedding with animal approach that like Jane Goodall took with the chimps back, you know, the day before she before she passed. And hey, um, his story, one, we had to go to him. It was like in the most remote part of Wyoming. He was like, we flew in. I think the Salt Lake is like a five hour drive. Is this small town that don't know where population 50? It was awesome. Like the whole experience was like really, really wonderful. And he's one that I wish I could have just sat out there and hung out with him for just days and days and days. But his, I remember leaving that interview with him and thinking, and this is before Jeff Milderman passed. And I remember telling John, I was like, John,

49:04I actually, I truly believe those like this guy is going to figure it out. Like this guy is going to bring, going to figure out the evidence. And we had some conversations about different things he was looking to do. You know, he's an older guy. So he's like, I need young people. I can't do the field work I used to do. And I was like, I have those people. I got to know exactly. And I remember I got back and I reached out to Jeff Milderman. And I was like, hey, I just met with John. I just met John Miyenski. Like, let's get on the phone and talk about like a feature doc or a project that, you know, hopefully we can raise some money for and go out and really like get evidence. Like when we went to Nepal, I remember sitting there with my crew and I really believed I was like, man, we're going for this. Like we are going to a remote, remote area. We're putting crazy resources. We're going to get some evidence. I remember looking at my team, my camera team, I'd be like, we are all responsible for getting the shot. Like don't just keep your eyes on Adam and Ian, you know, and Mick and Yagi. Like you guys got to be looking into the into into like to the mountaintops, like into

50:08the bush, like anywhere you could. And but John, I really left that feeling like he was positioned to do just like what you said, which is like to provide the evidence to science that is undeniable. And these parts of it didn't necessarily make the show, but you know, talking about what science needs evidence wise to actually, you know, say we this is a this is a real creature. This is the truth. And that that to me. Anyway, John was an amazing interview. I mean, just like the knowledge, the history, the evidence that he has found the story of how he came out out the mount. I mean, his encounter is interesting. Like his encounter is cool, but it's almost what happened after his encounter. That was more interesting to me. You know, it was coming down and I don't want to give away the whole story, but it's, you know, it led him to find more evidence. And you know, there's some conversations we had off camera, but yet John blew my mind like that. He was

51:09his background to have a wildlife biologist. I've talked about this before, but I do think like whether it's the judged wildlife biologist for those guys to come in and be like, I have experienced something. Whether we like to admit or not, they have a bigger mountain to climb as far as like there's more risk for somebody in that. The most risk for somebody in that world coming out and saying, I've had this experience than any other, you know, does John get isolated from other biologists being like, I believe that this ask watch does exist. I do believe that this is like a real, a real creature. And, you know, and he spoke a lot about the Native American history in that area. And he's just, he's so tapped into everything in the Wind River Mountains. That, that one really shook me. Have you talked to John? You know, do you know, John? I have never actually talked to John before. Oh, you got to get him off. I should look into that. Yeah, yeah. His story is great. His credentials are really cool. He's just also a really neat guy, thoughtful.

52:18You know, I remember finishing the interview and I texted my buddy who is our exact history and I was like, man, we just had an awesome interview. I can't wait for you to see it. Like, because it just, it just, it, it wasn't, it wasn't, it was a very unexpected individual having that encounter. There was a journey afterwards. I love the stories where people, like Daniel, Daniel had his experiences as a kid. Then, for years, he tried to figure out until he saw her run more head serious and he's like, that's the sound I heard. I mean, I don't know about you, but sounds, smells, nothing access is my memory that like those. And so I can, I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes total sense that that would take, if you heard that sound again, it would take you back to that moment. But John, yeah, John was, you should definitely, you'd be fascinating to have a conversation. He's a very, very busy guy. I've heard that guy stays, stays incredibly busy, but just a fascinating individual. Builders on house out there, rides like, you know, he rides around the desert, wind over mountains with this little motorcycle aside car. I mean, just a

53:19character, but really incredibly intelligent. And as a, it's just a true believer in really trying to find evidence. That sort of changes the entire scientific community's perspective on Sasquatch. So that was awesome. Man, Jared, what, what a fascinating conversation. How many episodes for, for season one, can we be looking for? So there'll be eight, eight all together. Okay. Eight all together. Yeah. Awesome. And can we say anything about season two yet or, or we will see. I don't know. I don't, yeah, I truly don't know yet. But as soon as I do, I, I, you'll probably know because we'll be asking around looking for stories. I'll probably hit you. I'll be like, let me, who do I, what stories do I not know that deserve? Hey, this treatment. Bigfoot society podcast.com go to siding map, all the people I've talked to are on that siding map. And then you can see the episode. And it's kind of like, I was like, I got so many

54:22people I've talked to, I got to make this map. And it's a lot of work. But like people are starting to check it out. So make sure you check that out. And is there anything that we can do to make sure that, you know, maybe we can help a little bit with, with season two. I would just, yeah, just keep checking it in. Just keep talking about it. You know, the, the feedbacks has been, has been amazing. You know, and I knew that we were the initial monster quests that are really high bar for us. You know, and the last thing I wanted to do is put a, put a product out that was disappointing to people. And so, you know, it's felt just incredible that it's that the community's been so excited about it. So welcoming. That's felt awesome. But now I just say, just, you know, I don't write the history. Tell them how much you love the show. But just keep watching and, and being enthusiastic about it. There are no shortage of stories. You know, there just are no shortage. I remember we, we finished the first season and, and we had some conversations and they said, Oh, well, you know, what is, you know, do you think we could do more? I was like, there are so many stories. Like, this

55:25is, I wouldn't even say this to the tip of the iceberg. There are really amazing stories. But there are more of these histories. There's more of these, you know, as you can see, like we're really focusing on like small, localized stories, folklore histories that are connected in some way to this witness encounter. And, and they're everywhere. They're really, it's hard to find a place, especially the United States, that isn't touched by some history of some sort of unknown cryptid encounter. You can't just ignore that. Like that is, it is, it is, it is literally part of like our human history of like searching for these answers. So I don't know. I'm going off on a couple of tangents. But yeah, I would just say, keep being enthusiastic about the show. Let history know what you think about it. And keep tuning in as the best thing we can do. And, but yeah, I, I will certainly let you know the second I know. If I'm allowed, that there's going to be another season coming. But I'm, I'm hopeful. I'm certainly hopeful. There you go. Well, Jared

56:27McGilliar. Thank you so much for hanging out with us, talking about Monster Quest. Guys, make sure that you, if you see it on TV, if you see it on TV, watch it, talk about it on your social media accounts, share it, all that good stuff. But thank you so much for coming on the show, Jared. Oh, Jerry, my husband, I blast. Appreciate it. Thanks for all you're doing too. I really appreciate it. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can, if this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous years. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say

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58:39So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it. And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard

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