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Mike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset
Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox
Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/
Editor: DeanCutty
Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social
Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro
Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin
SOURCES:
Wolfenstein Listener Story:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1oja41k/wolfenstein_dream/
Is America Full Of Monsters:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-asylum/202512/is-america-filled-with-monsters
Kaikoura Lights Incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hNmg-fXcvs
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Chilluminati Podcast — Midweek Mini: A Wolfenstein Listener Story. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
0:00Notice, notice, this midweek mini was recorded several months ago and may not be up-to-date with current events. For fresh mini-soat uploads with every episode, head to patreon.com slash Chaluma Nadipa. Hello, my little children and aunts, and welcome mini-soat 255. I'm still weird. I miss you. Oh yeah. Am I supposed to be weird too? Is this what we do? Oh god. Don't be weird. We don't know. We don't know. That's already over.
1:00You missed your opportunity to be weird. That's true. Hi, everybody. Oh. Did that mean so? No, no, no. Sit down. It's going to be like. You got it. It's like creepy. Oh. Okay. Like Tim Allen in the mini-soat. Alex, you said you have something to read for us, right? Yeah. So last week we did our awesome Chaluma Nadipa Christmas Advent calendar of listener stories, which was very fun. I really enjoyed it. But there's more listener stories than I could fit in the advent calendar. I mean, that they could fit in the advent calendar. And so I had to leave this one out. So this one is from, it's like a longer one, but it's just, it's so out there that I had to read it. This is from Spriggle Wiggle. It's called Wolfenstein Dream. So here we go. Okay. Hello, Chaluma Nadipa podcast. Long time listener, first time poster, I've been meaning to post dream since I had it. And ADHD and life had their fair share distracting me. I implore you to read this on the pod. I'd love to know what you all interpret and what symbolism Jesse will dissect from this
2:04one. I don't experience my dreams often, but when I do, I try to write them down, albeit in a stupor since I just a woken. Sometimes I remember to go back and clean it up. This is one of the few dreams I've ever experienced with the beginning, middle and end. And the only one with some level of coherence, incredibly cinematic. I copied and pasted exactly as it is in my notes. So if there's any typos, a weird wording, have fun with it. Okay, I digress. Let us bag in DMY, month, day, year, confuses, and an annoys me six to 25, six to 25. That's February, second, sixth, it's February, sixth, twenty five. First dream, first person, I'm in a small room, only about 10 by 10 by six feet. Everything looks in the style of the original Wolfenstein, including armors, ammo, and a pistol sitting on the ground. Listener, if you don't know what Wolfenstein is, it's the original first person shooter. And it's still around today at Bethesda.
3:06The armor, however, is reminiscent of MCRN Light Armor. I've been watching a lot of the expanse as of late. The expanse listener is a show on television. It's quite good. If you like the Star Trekies, Mass Effect type stuff, check out the expanse. When I collect the pistol, I hear a voice echo throughout the building, find the beast, kill the demon, free your brother. And so it begins, each room has a doorway about four feet by three feet. Every wall is smooth white with a very dark brown ceiling. The first door I shuffle through leads to a landing of a steep ramp. Old school stairways were simpler, days of basic polygons. So I ascend, crawl through the entry and see a hallway stretching ahead of me and to the right of me. I go right and at the end, our doors next to both shoulders. I go left and find some armor against a wall and a four by four square in the floor to drop down a level. I walk through a doorway that is immediately on the right of the one I entered and I start
4:07to hear breathing, heavy and a ballistic breathing. I don't have a flashlight, so I can't shine a light to see the other end of this really, really long room. I ever so carefully creep closer as the breathing gets louder and louder until I can make out its whole shape. It looks humanoid. Instead of skin, it's made purely out of only what I can describe as dark red tree roots. It has no eyes, only sockets, and it seems to be looking right at me. I make a vicious scream, similar to a T-Rex in Jurassic Park mixed with the HL2, that's half-life too, stalker scream. Truly frightening, listen, or half-life too, is a game for PC came out about 20 years ago. Truly frightening. I turn around and run. It chases. I enter the armor room, immediately step side back into the hallway and run down the corridor to the way I haven't gone before. I keep moving. I turn right. It's another long corridor. I keep pace.
5:07I can feel the fear on my breath. I turn right again, someone shackled to the wall. It's a black-haired lady in a skin-tight leather suit. It's Aashie, the daughter of Akku. I don't think I've seen her in years or even finished watching the show, but somehow she's in my head, guys. I don't think I know this one. Is it Samurai Jack? I think it's Samurai Jack. Samurai Jack? Samurai Jack? Samurai Jack? Yeah, Akku has it. In the one they created later, that was like the last season spoilers. I know why she's in your head. You dirty. You dirty, pretty move. All right, she looks up at me, then lowers her head and sadness. This is written in like Germanic, like high speech font. Just end me and be done with it, she says. And then we're back to Ariel. I'm starting to slow my breath and without thinking, I shoot the chains, holding her arms and run into another room to my left. There's only one other door in here, I enter and it's another stair slope that leads me back down.
6:08I glide down and snake my way back to the first room. There's so many empty rooms. I hear the creature, its low growl permeates the walls, filling the air with a dark fog of anger. I sneak around the bottom floor, waiting to come face to face with a thing again. I enter a room and it's on the other side. I aim my gun at it and wait until it turns towards me. When it does, I realize that it doesn't actually see. It only hears. Shooting might hurt it, but it will only give away where I am. Find the beasts, kill the demon. Maybe I'm not supposed to kill this creature. Only find it. I make a stomp, it hears. It looks directly at the betraying foot. Listeners, stomp the yard is a pretty good dancing. Good movie, you don't know about it. You should check out stomp the yard. I went to go see stomp the yard in theaters and it was sold out and so instead I saw a movie I knew nothing about called Children of Men. Oh my God, what a bitch. What a bitch. What a bitch. Fucked us up. It looks directly at the betraying foot. It makes it scream and lunges at me.
7:10I sprint back the way I came after making distance. I slow down enough that I don't get too far ahead. I run back up the newly found slope and run back into where I left the prisoner. She's not there, of course. She's behind me. She was waiting for me to return. She hits me in the back of the head and I fall over. The pistol, in classic fashion, slides away from me. She picks it up, we're back in Germanic high speech. Think next time, hero. I'm gonna have to come to this one. I can't tell what this word is because it's actually, I can't read the font. What do you guys think? Think? Here's a copy paste it and change the font. Great question, great, great detective work. I mean, what else would THNB? Surely that's okay. But the K looks like a little treat. Yeah, I don't want to pause.
8:11But I feel like I feel like I got to know what this word is before I. It won't change font. It'll be too hard and just get thin about it. All right, think next time, hero. Thin for next time, hero. Yeah, there you go. Thump, thump, thump, thump. Rub it, crunch. And so, I think I found the beast, killed the demon and out of the twisted roots and dark form of the creature. My brother appeared, innocently dormant and unaware of the events and that is where this post ends. There is nothing else after that. That is actually phenomenal. Yo, I was taking notes like crazy. You all have no clue. That actually is the easiest one to figure out. I'm so thrilled. This is fantastic. Usually, they're like complicated. This one's so simple. Okay, I'm gonna break it down for you. That obviously a lot of this could be like you just thought of a thing and it included in your dream, of course, as always.
9:12But one, when you think Wolfenstein, you think all of those old games, they're basically boxes or halls that look like boxes. It's oppressive. It's all around you all encompassing. All right, then find the beast, kill the demon for your brother. This is awesome because, okay, first off, the beast, right? So find the beast, kill the demon for your brother. It's a stage thing, right? Stage one, stage two, stage three, it's a process. You're going through a process. And so the beast could be an instinct that finding suggests you need to acknowledge as part of you, right? Need to find the beast within you or whatever that beast might be, right, some sort of animalistic thing. And then the part where you face the demon, where you kill the demon, is you have to like face this inner adversary or like the concept of striving peace
10:13to feeding this evil. And then for your brother, right? Brother in the dream is more than just a brother. It symbolizes your connection to humanity, like finding the, right? But the thing that's great about this, the thing that ties it all together perfectly, is that Aashi, who is Aakus, half demon assassin daughter. From the revival to kill Jack. From the revival to death. Yeah, falls in love with Jack. Yeah. Is literally, find the beast, kill the demon for your brother. Like if you just like think about the idea of what that is, she's initial, she's like his most loyal servant for Aaku. And then she meets Jack and is freed from that demon defeated and they fall in love. It all like checks out on sort of like a grand scale. What it means specifically, I have no clue. But unlike do these things line up in the dream, 100%. You guys are so lucky that Jesse watched the like revival adult version of Samurai Jack
11:15that came out. Yeah. I know what's up. You guys are so lucky. I think, I think you were playing a Nazi video game. Kill the Nazis. And I think you had a supernatural dream about the evils of the Holocaust, right? The beast is the genocide, right? The demon that you have to fight is us. Right, like we, it was perpetrated by people. But also he like, you know, Aashi's hot. So it was like you're in the dream too, baby. Jason, but Jesse, that's part of it. Because Ashkenazi Jews were part of the group that were being attacked by. You know, all right. I don't think it's Ashkenazi. It's Ashkenazi, Ashkenazi part of me, Ashkenazi Jewish, but Ashkenazi for some reason. The way you were saying it, you were like, an Ashkenazi Jews were trying to kill Samurai Jack. No, listen, I don't know what Haku's religion was.
12:16I was telling you, this was the cemetery that I saw. And, you know, the bright light of Hanukkah is going to shine very soon, everybody. So I just let it go. I think this dream has bored me. There's a lot of things in the air. And I have, I have seen a special or two about Hanukkah. So I know lightly what it's about. On the first night of Hanukkah, what do we do? We like the menorah and another candle too. Oh, that's lamb chops, lamb chops, Hollywood, Hollywood. Oh, if it's lamb shop, that's quality. I don't think I've seen that since actually. If you want to watch this, it's great. It's got the dad from growing pains. Alan Thick. It's got an old guy down with a Mr. Miyagi shows up to the party as well and is hanging out with Charlie Horse. There is only one Christmas special that I acknowledge. That's the Clay Mansion Christmas special. The greatest Christmas special there ever was. I played it. I watched it with you. It's Umar and Jesse.
13:16So don't say it. It's one of the best things that ever existed. Are you doing a Patreon to Patreon brand deal right now? I'm just saying if you're on the Patreon and you're not on the Chaluminati pot and you're only on Jesse Cox, I'm telling you, marry those together. It is a beautiful, just like when you just marry him. Just marry him. Mariam, a classic Jewish name, Jesse. I'm classic, you're mariam. And Hunter of Samurai Jack. One of the other daughters of Aku. Yes, yes, that's true. What? Do I need to watch this? Is this show incredible? It's going. It's going. It's like when they bring it back to like one final hurrah and it's fantastic. All right. Samurai Jack saw, Samurai Jack saw the problem of how do we have him kill everything? Everything just has oil in it. And it's glorious. Yep. It's very well. I did love the Star Wars. I love those. Does original clone work our team? Yes. Yeah, good ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very similar. No, hey, no. Those are just masterpieces.
14:17Is that it? Are there more? Jesse, what do you have? I got some fun stuff. OK, so in psychology today, an article by Tori Rondolin, it's interesting. It's is America filled with monsters. Is the question mark there? Yes. According to popular lore, monsters lurk in every state. Is this good for us? So the article starts out by introducing topics that we've talked about a bunch, Bigfoot, Mothman, Troopacabra, et cetera, et cetera. It defines cryptids, it goes into what they are and talks about like, yeah, they're fabled creatures that scientifically haven't been proven to exist, but it's fun to talk about them. And the article goes on to say statistically, millions of Americans believe that cryptids are real. For instance, approximately one in five believe in Bigfoot. This belief in turn helps support a huge monster industry. One, 2020, 24 study found that Bigfoot products generate $140 million annually.
15:20What? That's a big benefit off the monster industry. Come on now. Yeah, today there are numerous museums available for the monster investigator, not to mention a plethora of films, toys, websites, and festivals. In fact, a brand new Bigfoot movie just came out called American Sasquatch by the Missing Ford One Guy, which I have a copy of. If you all want to watch that, I have a copy of it. The literal missing 401sers who did is me shitting on David Paulie's. Yes, which is why we have to watch. For like eight hours straight. Bigfoot's come from UFOs. They're entered portal to mean they take people sometimes. They go through portals. That's why we can't see them. They're not on this plane. I just heard David Plyty's talking about this. I know. We mean to watch it. I have a code. Let's watch. Yeah, yep. Some argue that monster belief propagates pseudoscience, which is a movement that challenges scientific authorities and often suggests that scientific institutions are malign entities. This can work to the detriment of public health and faith in essential institutions.
16:23Note, literally, it's exactly what they're afraid about when they talk about like RFK talking absolute nonsense about medicine, where they're like, is it good though? Is it? So that's one of the concerns they have. On the other hand, some argue that Bigfoot and its kin can spark a healthy interest in biology, environmentalism, and can also provide sucker to marginalized groups that feel monstrous by an intolerant society. It all sounds like a lot of, you know, like big, bigfoot. I'd be like, it's we're helping people. Big, big foot. Yeah, yeah. We're helping people. I mean, like coming from the angle of like, don't get rid of Bigfoot, I guess. It does seem like Bigfoot lobby, but anyway. And it's certainly without debate that monsters have become economic bonanzas and even entertainment megastars. The popularity of Bigfoot speaks to a broader context, a scholar, Joshua Blue Boos, notes, at mid-century,
17:25American working class white men were doing quite well financially, but broadly speaking, they were leery of the changing culture. Mass media made the world seem fake and the post-war emphasis on family and togetherness, a word coined in 1954 could feel still defying. In addition, the economy was changing from an industrial one to one based on services and consumption, and that change meant, changed what it meant to be successful as a man. This was one of the things like, they keep talking about aliens, they talk about like every time major cultural changes happen, interest in all this stuff picks up. And so right now major cultural changes are happening and we're very obsessed with aliens. Absolutely. The same trend can be found with Drew Crime as well. When the world gets in on a dark or spot, the people who take in true crime content goes up. That's like me with comic books. When COVID-19 happens,
18:27I buy more comic books than anybody ever expected. And now it's a burden that I must carry with me for the rest of my life. And doing all of this, like both Bigfoot, Mothman, the UFOs, whatever, they offer some sort of access or understanding to the troubles and the things happening past, present, dreams you might have. Like it gives easy explanations to be like, oh, it's that thing. Yeah. And yeah, it can problematically inspire troubling habits, like the belief that science is wrong, and that anecdotal reports and common sense are reliable evidence. But it also inspires hope and helps people, you know, resuscitate stagnant local economies and helps them get through troubling times. What is more, cryptids have apparently deserved our national attention because it signals like deeper social and psychological processes that we're all going through.
19:27We can study cryptobelief in order to better understand the human mind, such as our proclivity, to anthropomorphize objects and our urge to believe in the more fantastical reality. So basically the article is saying, hey, man, look, it might all be hogwash, but like, we need this. It's the reason why we create all sorts of stuff. Even if it's real or not real, you know, don't be a buzzkill. It's basically the article. Well, it's kind of my vibe, honestly. Yes, Alex, that is what an Alex is. Over on story time, David told me all the cryptids cross all these different states and in a number of small towns. They know the cryptids fake, they're still a museum and it's the only thing going on in that small town. So that part of it stands out to me. I also have been watching my friends raise their kids. And like, to you and I, when we talk about big flits or like monsters and stuff like that, it's a little ambiguous, but like,
20:28when you're like preparing a little person for the world, monsters are real. And like, not, and mind you, what I'm talking about is the Santa Claus monster who's gonna whip out a gun at the bank is real, but like also like that idea of be wary of what is in the forest. Be wary about the unknown. So like, I also feel like part of this is also like that existential dread that you're trying to instill in people of like, just be careful. Like even in the middle of the forest, you might get missing 4-1-1 and like, that's something, regardless of why those people go missing, sadly, that happens. Yeah, I know that I'm a whole, yeah. Yeah, what you're talking about is exactly, I think the point of the article, which is like, no one on this show I think believes that missing 4-1 is a real like supernatural thing. Right. But people definitely go missing in the forest and the moral, the message should be,
21:29hey, be careful in the forest. Yeah, try not to go missing in the forest, bro. Yeah, exactly. Well, my other hot take away is, hot take away is this is why we need disclosure. I need to know that grace and mantis is and these are real. So that we can go, oh, all that other stuff was nonsense, but the biggest conspiracy to one, those gray things that people keep saying they see in their dreams, that's for sure. No, the mantises are a split off that were mad at the big guys for destroying their destiny and now they're coming to kill us. But I don't know about it because we didn't want to spend the socialism coin. With the military guy got taken by the mantis thing. He said, I can do whatever I want to your body and hurt you, but we can't hurt your souls. So do with that what you will, everybody. On that, we'll wrap this mini-side up. I'm gonna leave you boys with just a link. That is the car footage, the Khaikora UFO and Sid and footage there. It's gonna be lights on a screen as you would expect. That is the footage. Quick on it. It sounded exactly like Jesse talking,
22:31like 100% just like Jesse was doing his accent again. That's, so you did a great job, Jesse. That's such a good job, Jesse. Thank you. But what you're seeing is fucking, what you would expect, right, lights in a nice light. Highlight, what do you expect to see light? It's all, you know, it's out there. You can go see it. We'll be back next week with another mini-side sent out. Thank you again for joining us. We get always the pleasure to have you on my friend. Thanks for having us. And we'll be back next week. Thank you all again. We appreciate you. We love you. Goodbye.
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