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Can one person make a hagomel blessing on behalf of other people who also want to make the blessing or can they make one blessing for two personal miracles?
Today's stuff is maseches, menachos, stuff, ein waav, the new Mishnan and menachos teaches that all meal offerings require 10 loaves or 10 wafers to accompany them, except for the showbred, the lechemapanim, and the minachas chavitin of the coin god of the griddle cake we discussed, which is 12 loaves or wafers.
That is the opinion of Rabbi Huda, while Rabbi Mayer argues that all the meal offerings have 12 loaves, except for the four types of loaves of the Corban Toda, with 10 for each type of loaf.
Totally 40 loaves for the Thanksgiving offering, and the Mishnan says also the peace offering of the Nazir, which has a different number.
The Gamara asks, what is the source from Huda's opinion that all meal offerings come along with 10 loaves or 10 wafers?
The Gamara says, Gamara, Milachme Toda, learned out from the breads of the Thanksgiving offering, and this is a good parallel to the Gamara, because of a number of similarities, and it gives a whole list.
We'll just mention one or two. One is that they are both offered by the Yachid, they're offered by the individual, Contrast 2, the showbred, which is communal.
Additionally, the Corban Toda is an edava, it's a voluntary, it's a donation type of offering in Contrast 2, obligatory offerings, and this is emphasized again on Daph-Pay, on Daph-Cyricama-Pays, it's a big theme when it comes to the Corban Toda, the Thanksgiving offering.
Such as, in Contrast, to the Corban Ghatas and the Corban Asham, which are obligatory.
So what comes out is that a person who's, let's say, freed from prison, or recovers from an illness, 2 out of the 4 listed in the Gamara that we have in Masach-Has-Brochos, that we have to say, thank you, Tashem.
That person has no Torah obligation to bring an offering. It's purely initiative-driven of a person who desires to say, thank you, Asham.
Once expressed gratitude, they will be motivated to go ahead and get involved and bring, spend the money and go and produce the Corban Toda.
I saw in a sheer, I'm Birkasa Gomel, from a Shmura Binavich, in a trummin, Krakh-Lamadad, he brings a very interesting contradiction.
He draws it out, the comment of Rashi in his commentary on the Torah, Inva-Yekra, Parsis-Sav, Paragzain, Pasigad-Baze.
On the words, Im-Al-Todayak-Rivenu. Im-Al-Todayak-Rivenu, what is constitutes what would be required to say thank you for?
So the definition of what we should give thanks for, Rashi says, a nace, a miracle, and sites, the four scenarios we know from the Gamara regarding Birkasa Gomel,
which is the replacement of the Thanksgiving offering. Well, we don't have a base of miktats, so therefore somebody who completes a seer, desert journey,
recourses of illness, released from prison, these are all considered a miracle. He uses the language of Shaheen-Srichi Mahodos.
The required. So the question, of course, is how this drives with our Gamara.
It states explicitly that Toda is completely voluntary, where Rashi maintains the Chiyokorban is basically required.
Therefore, Ranavich explains that the Ikr-Din is like our Gamara, that the Thanksgiving offering is voluntary, the Toda is a voluntary.
A person who fails to bring it after experiencing a personal miracle does not violate an isser of a prohibition.
However, Rashi is not khasusham arguing in the Gamara to say it's a requirement rather to draw the connection.
He's saying that the Korban Toda is a halachic avenue for one who wishes to express gratitude to Hashem after miracle within the discussion.
Birkasa Gomel, we have as follows. The Muka Yosef, the Ramban, both rule that it is a full obligatory brachat to make.
Well, the Muka Yosef, not so women don't usually recite a Gomel because there are opinions that hold it is optional.
His point is that when Khazal say in the context that an offering is not a Khova, this doesn't mean that we should just forego it.
It's more saying it's not a strong requirement, like a Khatas or Birkasa Mitzvah, but when a person experiences a giant miracle,
there's a major Mitzvah to think Hashem.
Why the Birkasa Gomel comes out as a Khova, as opposed to the Korban itself, it doesn't cost anything.
It's a simple few words. Of course, we should require people to go and say this brachat.
So Lamalot, but a Toda offering, that's an expense, 40 loaves of bread.
One needs to be motivated to bring such an offering out of enthusiasm and gratitude.
A very interesting application, Rabinavich, for those who know, is the Rav of the Kotel.
And he was asked about many times, but a person coming, many people come to give thanks to Hashem at the Kotel.
And one person wants to make a Gomel in a minion, and there's multiple people who also want to thank Hashem for the miracles that they experience.
Can one person offer it on behalf of others?
So he says, as follows, that by a Korban, the Lishma aspect is critical.
In other words, a specific Kavanaugh, we need, it was required.
While a Gomel is general, a Gomalachai Vymtavos, however we follow Rabinavich, a Toda is Kshere.
And even a non-specific Toda is effective.
And therefore, one, a Gomel blessing, could cover two personal miracles, or even on behalf of multiple people.
Yodu Lashem Khasto, the Niflo Osav, at least Neh Adam.
