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0:00Some of them are not all of the top line at the new mission of Haimar, three word quote, haraylai machwas of a person says, that behold the machpaz is upon me, well, low yavvy bemerchashis, he should not bring his mincha in a deep pan preparation. One word quote bemerchashis, if he says one word bemerchashis, low yavvy bemerchashis, he should not bring it in a shallow pan preparation. Mama, mama bemerchashis, what's the difference? Well, a memerchashis, interesting yeshlai kisui has a cover to it as it's prepared with a cover on it. And a machpaz, a memerchisui does not. Divae, that's according to, and we underline the bioseg lily, kama, rebkhanein bengamli alaymer, we underline him as well, slightly different understanding. A memerchashis is a muka, like we had said, up above it's a deep pan umase aray khashin. I guess the grain sort of loaves that are made in it are rokhashin, which is sort of

1:02like a jello consistency, a little bit jiggly, whereas kama, if it's machwas, if it's on like a much flatter pan, safo mase kashin is more like a amatsa or a like a hard sort of cracker. My time has come out of what's the reason that a memerchashis has a cover and a machwas doesn't ordered, bioseg get that from, well, ilay maizquiglando, and ilay ma, if you want to say, well, it's from sookin, presidents of words and sookin, memerchashis de asya memerchashis comes a rechushi halave from the thoughts of a person and we know thoughts are internal meaning they're like covered, could you see if rokhashli be dovertive, my heart was thinking something very good, I didn't say it, whereas machwas, the reason that a machwas is the way

2:04it is, according to bioseg, is de asya memerchbue hape, it comes from the, I guess the president of the word machbue, like habo, I mean like the noise, the sounds that a person can make, which people hear, cadomrian, she like people say minbach nevuchy, okay, so if that's the reason behind a bioseg lily, for the covered, or the uncovered, eima Ipchah, you can say almost like just the opposite, that when the term machwas was used in the mishnah, machwas is similar to de asya, it comes like the, the source of the word is machbue, it would be the ches, the mem ches, bays, halay, it comes to like the hidden parts of the heart, which means that that should be the cover, one d'achse, like the one who says lama, nechfez li frayach, why were you like in a secret of hidden way trying to escape, and memerchesh es, de asya are rachushi, that would come from the term rachushi, cadomrian, like people

3:08say, have a memerachashan sif sasay, that his lips were moving, like it was noticeable, it was a visible, elah, the reason behind a bioseg lily shita is ghmara, simply that's the tradition that he had, the mishnah sedrip, chan, nina bengamli alaymer, et cetera, a memerchesh es, ammuka, how does he know, according to memerchesh es is the one that is prepared in a deep pan, d'achse, bemerchesh es, chan nasa, the positive calls it in a memerchesh es, chan nasa, chan nasa, has a depth to it, whereas two words in right angles, when rachan namagamli ala explained the makhvas, he said it was safa, dexse, because the way the positive describes the way it's prepared is al makhvasan, which makes sense if you're making it like an a griddle or a very narrow walled pan, like it's a wide, like a frying pan, almost as opposed to a deep pan. Period, a tonne verb on the verb brings a brise makhlokis between, bayshame, bayshame goes

4:13about seven lines, bayshame, who we box time him, they say, how amir, a person says, quote, hooray alaymer, chesh es, yeh, muna khat shiawe liahu, well, you gotta let that thing wait, that, that vow wait until the al comes and clarifies, because he didn't say he's going to bring a memerchesh, he just said it is upon me to bring a memerchesh es, the safa goes mesa faluh, yeh al shum, clee nikruh, al shumasan was he saying we was going to basically bring a, I don't know, a deep, like a, like a, a, a, chalant pops, like a big soup pot, or was he saying he was going to bring the mihrah that is prepared in that. Whereas Baysello we boxed the baysello, y mrem they say, cleayib a mechtash, no noero, there was a vessel in the mechtash called the a memerchesh es, shmah that was what was called Vidayma and And it was similar to a Kalbus Amok. And it was like a deep Kalbus. Russia has an explanation. I think this is similar to if they have these, if you want to make like a soft boiled egg,

5:19they have these little things that you plug into the wall. You could put like six eggs and then they actually look a little bit like the picture in Russia where there's these little depressions in them. I think that's what Russia is describing. And when a dough would be put in there, doughnut, it would like sort of make the finished product like tapuche, hape, roism, or come in blute, haje, vaunem, sort of like large nuts, or I guess apples, valimer. And another thing to back up base hill is the puzzle, and this is what we had seen right before the briser says three word quote, vecholnase bemechase, say double on the base. And then veal machwas, a double on the line, the alf. So again, merchase seems to be something that would be put into like a very deep sort of pot. And almachwas is a very, very shallow sort of frying pan. That's the end of the thing. So our alma, it's pretty clear that according to base hillow, I'll show you how Kalimnick

6:20Ruvalo Shumaseyam, that it's the Kalim that are the being described and not that which is done with them. That's the end of that. So that's the mission. Quote three words, hooray alay betonor. Let's say somebody says that he's going to bring that which is made in a oven, well, then he would not bring the following three things, loyavi, maf kupach kupach is not like a proper stove. It's like when there's little mini ovens. B, maf are often would be a blows baked on tiles, I guess, very, very hot tiles. And C, maf are yaires ha, Arabian, like the Arabian vats are the Arabian large pots. Rabi hudu, we underline Imer, rot some avi maf kupach, as far as the A issue with the Tanakami disagrees, as long as it's made in a oven, whether it's the regular size oven, the maf kupach is a little bit of a smaller oven that would also be acceptable for somebody

7:25so they're going to bring in a tonor because it's kind of like a little tonor. Period. Quote four words, hooray alay minjas maf. Let's say he was more specific. He was going to be a minjas maf, well, macho, okas, Tanakami, the Tanakami says loyavi mechse chalice mechse rakeekin, I think it was made broad as ten loves, so he would not be able to bring, let's say, five as chala type loves and five as ruckus type loves, like this, sort of like chalice on chabis and mats on chabis, one was a little bit fluffier one was a little bit flatter, I can't bring half an avi, can either bring all of one or all of the other, whereas Rabi shimon huibach, matir, he would allow it, we may shuhu kurban echad, it all falls under the same general category and therefore it would be allowed, tonor abana. The more brings a five and a half line, brisa maf, et tonor, veloy maf, et kupa, veloy maf, et aofin, veloy maf, et yereis, rbim, or arabian, the arabian vatsin, that's exactly what the Tanakami says in the mission of rabiyahudah, and here's a little bit of explanation of rabiyahudah's opinion, says that the pasok uses the word tonor twice, it says tonor,

8:30and then again, it says ton, steppaman, which comes to sort of include, I guess, the box, the way he changes the ransh, he is to explain it's a miyud, ahra miyud, lahaks shir maf, et kupa, so regular tonor, and even like a smaller tonor, aka, et kupa would be acceptable. Rabi shimon huibach, dhamir, tonor, tonor, shne pa amim, he agrees, it says it twice, echad shne fiyasam bit tonor, echad shne hikadation bit tonor. So one is that the baking of it has to be done in a avin, and the other is that actually gets its kidusha, because if it's going to be brought in the base mixture, it's kidusha in a tonor. That's the end of the tenexor, it asks the gamara now, and we'll meet easily the rib shimon, heisfarah, does Rabi shimon really have that sfarah, that the holiness of the loaves is achieved by baking it in the tonor of hats, but we have a quote from a tenexor, it goes just over two lines, that indicates that's not the case.

9:31Rabi shimon huibach, that the eulam huibach, they used to always say, at the time it was a basic big dush, and things were going on, that the steha lachhana lachhana panim, the steha lachhana, which is the loaves brought during shfus, and lachhana panim, which is every shabis that it's changed, both of those are eaten by the kaihanim, that they would be kosher to be eaten be azzara in the courtyard, which is where most of the holy of holy things were eaten, bukshera is a base pagi, and even way outside that area, in which case it seems, how can you even take it out of the azzara if it's got its kudusha, it didn't get its kudusha when it was put in the tonor, but four lines of goro shimon, to say that it would have. Amarava, so rava explains, aimash, yeh, hekdation, lishum tonor, it's a little bit different, it's that when the flower would be sanctified, it should be done on the condition that it be baked in a tonor, that is how he is being mikadishit.

10:34The mishya setariya, the minkasmafa, loya vi meksa tonorabana, the warbing is a brisa, the brisa starts here, and it goes most of the way, let's say, two, four, about 12 lines down on Amarava's first one line is, lemala, shnaiminechalukin, and that's the end of the tonorabana source, in the tonorabana source you're going to have three opinions, the two that we had in the mishya, rava, yudha, shimon, and then we'll have a third one. So here we go. Posak says, by mincha, it's, if I grab parikbeis, Posak, the chisakribe, and when you offer, that's the Posak, kishetakribe, lasa dava, kishetakribe, it's basically optional, it's something that you're bringing, the Posak continues, carbon, mincha, Amarava yudha, we backstrip yudha, we do mean nine loymers, so how do you know if a person says, quote, haraya, loya, mincha, smafa, behold it is upon me, a mincha, mafa, I guess, baked mincha,

11:41shlaya vi meksa khals meksa kikin, that he could not bring different types of baked things, like loaves and crackers, only one or the other, tamalama, the Posak says, karban mincha, that's a singular term, karban, karban, acha dama artila khals meksa, shnaim mishlaya shikabas, not two or three different types, one type, you want to bring them all mats alike, fine, you want to bring them all, bread loaf like fine, but they also be the same. Amarava yudha, he says, well, one second, bachinamar, does the Posak say, two word phrase, karban, and then again, karban, shnaipamam, does it say, karban twice, no, valolo namar, elah, karban, I put kora in quotation marks, achat, it says, the karban term, once, and then it's like a sub, two sub categories of karban, it says khaloyes, vanemar, brichaz rachikin, in which case, you have a choice, says, rabshin minmaatah, ratsla, vichaz loaves, maybe you want to bring them all khaloyes, fine, rachikin, you want to bring them all, mats alike, maybe fine, mechzach house, mechzach rachikin, maybe, whatever it goes,

12:43long as you bring enough, u ba'ililan, and then you, after you bake them, you break them into pieces, and then you mix it with oil and take the kameetsa, michaniam, and then you take the kameetsa, and it covers whatever you brought. Veim kamat's falabiyadai, let's say, you took the kameetsa, and it turns out, it was mixed so well, or whatever the mitsis was, mechzach rachikin, only took a one, I don't know how to read this, whether you read as mechzach rachikin, then you're yatsah, or ve alabiyadai mechzach, it only comes one of the two, then al shnaiam yatsah, either way, it would mean the same thing, you were yatsah, both, in other words, taking from both of the different types for that mincha, kamat, rabiyazrabiyudah, huiboxis, the third opinion, I think he's actually the son of rabiyudah, he's one of the first two opinions, rabiyazrabiyudah, you remember me nine, nine, nine, nine, how do you know of a person, says, quote, four words, araya, laim, mincha, maafe, oh, that was the same case that we had, that rabiyudah, rabiyaz

13:44shunorah ging about, saloyah, mechzach al shnaiam yatsah, mechzach rachikin, cannot bring it half and half, you've got to bring it all chaloids, or all matzos, or rachikin, tamuloimar says the puzzle, now this is veikra chapter seven, the first puzzle we're going to quote here is puzzle test, and the next puzzle is puzzle yud, the puzzle test starts here, I put the word veql in a diamond, two lines later, fourth word of line, it's also veql, I put that word in a diamond, that's the beginning of puzzle yud, so let's start with puzzle test, and puzzle test, it says mincha, ashratafibetana that you bake in an oven, the chalnasa bemeriches, ve al-machvas, and anyone that's made in a deep pan, in a shallow pan, leqayanamakri if I say leitiyah unto the priest, who offers a chalab, be in other words the con gets a shirayah, now puzzle yud, veql, we have a diamond around this word veql, veql mincha belulavashem, and any mincha that is mixed in with oil before the khmit is taken, kam

14:44of the chareva, or a totally dry one, in other words there's no oil, veql, banear, nth, she'll be to all the sons of Aaron, in other words the shirayah, now both of those people can start with the word veql, kam of maa, just like the veql, ham of the maa that's said later meaning in puzzle yud, shne minachaluk, and they're two totally separate types, one's a belulavashem, one's a chareva, those are not similar at all, kam of, so two, the veql, I put in the orientation marks that starts out puzzle test is indicating how in millimala, shne minachaluk, and are two totally separate types, you cannot mix and match either of al-halais or al-rakeken, that's in the tenei source, semikol, now if you go back to the first two opinions, rebihud and rebshimin, it seems like hey rebihud a, kam of, shop or kam of rebshimin, rebshimin, we just go back to the top on this page, rebshimin's response was it doesn't say the carbon word twice, amarlach, so rebihud would respond to that handle, and the amarlach, well kevan dexi, true it doesn't, however since it says

15:47the word bashe minin, bashe mdallid twice, kaman dexi, carbon, carbon, dummy, it's almost as though it says the double carbon term, kam of rebshimin, I don't understand rebshimin, what would his response to that be, he would say no, no, it had to write the bashe minin word twice, elixi, bashe min, bashe min, bashe min, how do I mean I would have thought, dafqa, mechschol, semans, rekeken, that you specifically, you can only bring one of these types of carbonus, if part of the loaves are halot and part of the marrakeken of alchaleis lechudai, rekeken lechudai, my de tharge minim, all like one or all like the other, amaloi, I might have thought that's no good, kamashmalan, that's what the puzzling is telling us. Ask the gamara final question, the third opinion that we had rebihud is actually the son of rebihud, which is interesting because the opinion of these states is exactly what rebihud is, what his father said rebihud is rebihud kama, what's his third opinion, hainwa voi, you saying the same thing is a dad rebihud is so answers the gamara ikabeynaio, well there actually is a difference dee avad, which means like bidee avad after the fact is it okay or not, says the rashi, cross the mirror about eight lines

16:52before the rashians ikabeynaio, dee avad a underland, dee bramasla, an underland rebihud is name, rebihud a dee all of the time he learns me carbonachad, dee avad, che race, then listen if you should have done it but if you did it would be good, whereas rebihos, the underland rebihos is name in the rashi, dee all of he learns from belula and chareva, well chieche de belula, chieche de belula, dee minjas ne dava, the belula one is a free will offering minja, vechareva, dee minjas chaiten, that's a, you can't make a free will, chareva offering, it has to be someone who actually sends which makes it totally separate categories, afilu dee avad, imir ramsu lois, and therefore pidee avad if you did mix them, they would actually be even bidee avad invalid, hajan alach, kolomano khayis arka,