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Gemara Markings Daf YomiMenachos 56. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

0:00Note Hey Ahmed Bay, three lines from the bottom, we'll pick up with the word Oso. So we thought that we don't need the word Oso from the previous Limud. What then is the Oso there? The Oso is a word that it's a little bit unnecessary, but when it's written it comes to exclude something else. In other words, it and not something else. Well, Oso bit soft find it, the Sawir Nasi, the Zakhatas, has to be done in the north. The Ainsar Nakhshin, but it's soft find, but not the Sawir Nakhshin. And the Mishkan was inaugurated, the Nasiim, I guess about 30-300 years ago, a little bit more than that. In the Midbar they each brought a Kurbana, so one of them was a Sawir. Nakhshin, as mentioned, he's the first of the 12 Nasiim who brought it. We're not required in north. Why would you think it would? Kama Soktaite Khamenei may have thought. Hayolvi, Israbilinians Mika, we have Limud in the teachers that there did have to be a leaning of the hands on the head of the animal before it was shifted.

1:01Maybe the Sobbi Namilin itself, and it should also be included to be like a regular khatis in that it would require north, Kamash Malan. We don't say that. So apparently that's what the word Oso is coming to tell us by the Sawir Nasi, Sawir Nasi, but not a soft find when it comes to the Sawir Nakhshin, so the Gamars says one second. Gufa Minalin, the fact that it even requires Smicha by the Sawir Nakhshin. Where do we know that from? There's a price that takes us till the first line on Nudwa Banalif. It says in the Pasek by the Nasi, the Samakh Yaday al-Rosh Ha Sawir. Okay, and he should lean his hands on the head of the goat. Now it could have said that he should lean his hands on its head. We know we're talking about the goat. So what's the additional word coming to tell us? Larabai's Sawir Nakhshin, this Meecha, even, does he or she are not showing that one time offering in the initial inauguration of the Mishkan would require Smicha, the Rebu, the

2:06Rebu, the Rebu, the Rebu, the Shimon, the Oso Box, the Imer. Larabai's, it comes to include Ciri Avay Deskaih, Khavam, this Meecha. Actually something else. It comes to include the goats that are brought for an idolatrous sin. That would require a Smicha. Okay, Mosque, Floravina, I have boxed Ravina, and a line later, in the middle of line, I have boxed Marzutra. It's going to be a little discussion here, it says Ravina is an attack, Taina, Larabai, who define. So we brought this price. We understand where we know Smicha from, according to the Rebu, about Larabai's Shimon, Maikla Maimar. Like, why do we need the Pasek of Oso to exclude something, but we never thought it'd be a Smicha. Amalimar Zutra, we'd have boxed Marzutra, Marzutra, Marzutra, is back to Ravina. Amalimar Zutra, a brainger of Murray, says to Ravina, well, you say it's okay, right, we're in Huda, who says even according to Rebu, Huda? It's all all right. Larabai Huda, I don't mind the Rebu, Huda. Larabai didn't know me also, Maikla is Ravina, Maikla is Ravina, maybe that which was

3:06included is understood to be included, but anything else is not the Chitaim, and if you'll then say, well, one second, Ilai Maite Kra, if the Pasek did not exclude the so-you're noxian from having to be under the North, Hava, Meena, Tase, Meena, I would have thought, well, use Abinionav Limwood to bring it in, whilst Mika, Gufa, the truth is, even when it comes to this Mika, Lishdai Kra, let the Pasek said nothing, Meena, regarding it, Viteci, and Learner from Abinionav, Ila, there's another overriding issue here, Ila Sha'a, Me Dairas, Le Alfinan, a one-off thing, like, say, inauguration of the Michigan-type Corbanaeus from the typical precedent that usually is the case, we do not learn when it comes to Smi Khawalan, Hachanami, so too, then it comes to Safain, the North requirement that would be under the northern part of the Azara, or the Khatsar, Shami Dairas, Le Alfinan, Ila, which got just to our second approach, I swigland around the Ila, I put a number two in the margin, and circled it, we did have a number one in the margin, I think I might

4:08have mentioned at the end of the last year, three lines from the bottom of the previous unload, we're now at Ila, which is the end of the line, about eight-nine lines down, about seven lines after that, there's an Ila at the end of the line, that gets squeal on the line with a number three in the margin, circled, and about five lines below that, last word of line is Bitsafain, towards earlier is Ila, squeal on the line with a number four in the margin, so let's go to the second attempt, Ila, let's pay a little bit of attention to this one, Ila went the positive by the Sawir Nasi, which is a Khatsas, used the additional word Aisai, the word Aisai, which I put in quotation marks, in other words, the animal it's Bitsafain, it changed the gear, it's in the north, Vein has Shokhe, but not the person who was shifting, the person who was processing it is not Ayme Bitsafain, so that would be what we learned from Aisai, says the gmaral, we don't need to learn it from there, because we already know it from Rabi, Medi-Rabi, Akhenafka, disanya, here's a bresa, goes for just

5:09over five lines, and apparently we learned from the bresa, so starts the bresa, Rabi-Achia, Ila, in his name Imer, the Shahat-o-Yusau, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, Ila, they should slaughter, it, now this is, let's see if I can go, that's by a carbonola, they should slaughter it, on the side of the back to the north, Matamolama, what do we need that for, we already know it's in the north, well, the Fisha, Matsinu, Bimmyk, Abel, since we know that the Cohen, who is the one who receives the blood, Shiaimid-Bid-Safin, Numakaba-Bid-Safin, he stands in the north, and he receives the blood in the north, Kam of the Imamud-Bid-Dharman, if he himself stands in the south part of the Azar-Vaqib-Bid-Safin, though he reaches out his hand, and receives the blood in the north, that would be Puzzle and Valid, whoo, I might have thought, Yachal, maybe, Af-Zeh, can the same thing would be by the Shokheites, Tamolaymar, nope, the Puzzle says, are you sorry, that's in quotation marks, which we darshen to me, are you sorry, Bid-Safin, it's, the animal has to be in the north, if I ain't not sorry, it's sorry, I made Bid-Safin, but the actual foot placement,

6:12like the place where the person who's checking the animal is does not have to be in the north, that's the end of the brycella, which gets us to a third approach, I screw going in the yellow, Ella, this is what we do with the word are you sorry, are you sorry, I put in quotation marks, Bid-Safin, but ain't Ben-Earth Bid-Safin, a bird does not have to be processed in the north, Kama-Salkedite, Kami-Nai, might have thought to say otherwise, Lacey, the Kava-Khamer, use the Kava-Khamer logic to say that it should, from a Ben-Sine, from a sheep, in other words, go from sheep, Kava-Khamer, it's a bird, and it would go like this, colon, Ma-Ben-Sine is sheep, Shalai, Kava-Lai, Kai-Hane, as far as the Shkites is concerned, anyone can do Shkites on a carbon, doesn't require a colon, yet, Kava-Lai-Safin, it does require that it be processed in the north, Kama-Nai, from dealing with a bird, offering Shkava-Lai-Khane, that has to be done, there's no Shkites, there's a Malika, Malika has to be done by a Cohen, A-No-E-D, not all the more so Shkite-Nai-Khava-Lai-Safin, that it should require the north, okay, the Gamora is Ma-Fri-Khane, says one second, Ma-Lai-Ben-Sine, you can't

7:13bring any sort of precedent from a sheep, Shkite-Khava-Lai-Khane, a sheep is different, you need to have a knife to do the killing of that animal as a service of the Lord as a carbon, as opposed to the bird, you don't need anything, you just need to do your knife, sharp thumb nail, Ella, so I screw on on the Ella, this is the fourth and last attempt to figure out what to do with the word A-Sai, Ella A-Sai, I put the A-Sai word in quotation marks, bit softening, the A-N-Pess-Up is softening, the carbon-Pess-Up does not have to be processed in the north, so we say no, that can't be, because we know that from somewhere else, Pess-Up, the carbon-Pess-Up, be dreadful as a banyank of Nafka-Des-Sanya, here's a four-line bresa, starts here, I handle in the name Rebi-Lez-Banyank of Eimer, y'all clear, Pess-Up sounds soft on, I might think, that the carbon-Pess-Up requires north, question markama connector and like logic would leave me to that, vidinu, it's logical, a Ma-An-Ila carbon-Ila, Shaloy-Khava-Lazman, you someone wants to bring a carbon-Ola, you can bring it today, you can bring it next week, there's no set time, Bish-Rita, when it has to be shifted,

8:15it did set that it requires, whenever it is going to be shifted, requires the north, then the carbon-Pess-Up, Shaloy-Khava-Lazman, that's only something that can be offered on the afternoon, the 14th of Nissan, it can only be shifted then, Aino-I-Din, now the more Shaloy-Khava-Lazman, it should certainly require north, only that's the end of the tenex source, the commodity says, one second, we could refute that logic, you're learning carbon-Pess-Up from Ola-Mala-Ola, she can't call it, you can't use Ola as a precedent, and Ola is a completely consumed sacrifice, that's very, very holy, who says it would apply to other type of sacrifices? Well, okay, fine, so we'll learn it from a Ghatas, Ghatas is not completely consumed by the fires of the Lord on the altar, well, we're not going for Ghatas, Mala-Ghatas, Shakan, Mekha-Persel-Khava-Crisis, Ghatas has got some other super power, it basically has the ability to get an Atomah for things that if a person did them could possibly be high of curries, okay fine, so we're not going to forgot this, how about this, May-Ausham will learn from the President of the Corbin-Ausham, well, he can't learn from Corbin-Ausham, Mala-Ausham-Shakan,

9:15Khaj-Khaj-Sham, it's Khaj-Khaj-Sham, whereas a Corbin-Pess is only a Khaj-Sham-Khalam, okay, well why not learn from a combination of Ola and Khatas and Ausham-Mekhulu from all of them, Nami, you also cannot learn as a precedent to Pess-Aks-Shakan, Khaj-Khaj-Sham, all three of them are Khaj-Khaj-Sham, Khaj-Khaj-Sham, Khaj-Khaj-Sham, Khaj-Khaj-Sham, Khaj-Mela, I screw on on the Ella, so we're kind of stuck, Ella, actually we're going to go back to one of the earlier four approaches and say that's really what we do the word Aisai-Ella-Lalala, Elam-Kitam-Rinan-Mi-E-Kara, now what do we say earlier and I put it above this the number two, the number two approach which was about eight lines from the top was Aisai, I put Aisai in quotation marks with Suffolane, it the animals be Suffolane, but the one who's doing the shri-d is not have to be in the Suffolane, okay we tried that, Khaj-Khaj-Sham, which we questioned that and said, well, we don't need those so word, well, Derabi-Akhya-Lavlam-Ute-Shaykh-Hit-Bit Suffolane, who the truth is Derabi-Akhya wasn't coming to exclude that the one slaughtering be in the North, Ella, Hakh-i-Kaam-Rinan, this is what Derabi-Akhya was saying,

10:19Ainha-Shaykh-Hit-Bit Suffolane, Aval-Mekaba-Bit Suffolane, his point was different, his point was the one who's doing the shri-d doesn't have to be in the North, but the one who's doing the Kabbalah does, so we see what's going on, Mekaba-L, that we know from somewhere else, Mekaba-L, me, the Pasek says, Lakhakh, or Khorus-Lakh-i-Kaam-Rinan said, says, That's where we learn it from, well, yeah, that's where some Tennayi-Mu-Rinan from, but Rabi-Akhya-Lavlam-Ute-Shaykh-Hit-Bit Suffolane, doesn't see the Vova as being significant enough to be darshanable in that way, and the Gamore therefore concludes that Lakhakh-i-Lakh-i-Kaam-Rinan, it wasn't said, that's not the way he understood the Vova, and therefore he needed the word Ayesai for that Darshan. Mekaba-Lavlam-Ute-Shaykh-Hit-Bit Suffolane, Valab-i-Kaasah, the person who processes the Khur-R-Mindra, most of them are supposed to be kept on the event, and it does as Kham-Aids would be a special deraise-ah-hiv, individual deraise-hiv for the needing of it, for the arranging of it, for the baking of it, get like three things there, Amar-A-Paba-Sukar-A-Paba. Paba says, Off-Aff, a person baked a Kham-Aids-Mindra that's

11:25supposed to be kept as Matsah, Lakhish time he would get two sets of Malka-Sah-H-H-A-L-R-I-Kaam-Rinan, so one because he arranged the loaves and Agha-Saul, If you also have the other one when he put the loaves in the oven and they baked. asks the end of one second by Amar-A-Paba-Sukar-A-Paba-Sukar-A-Paba-Sukar. Did we say earlier like maybe yesterday M'A'fi' Amil Khada Shimaisa-Ii-Khidi that the unique nature of baking is that it's an individual act of the Khur-R-Mindra Bifni-Atsma and you would be liable, let's say a Cohen who baked as Kham-Aids, one of the Khaman-Aids-Mindra, would be an individual liability for that, that's what we learn from Afea. So, good more answers. Well, there's two possibilities. Like Hasha, no difficulty here. Colin. Ha, we're a puppet saying there'd be two sets of mouth. This is where the same guy will call him Bob, Bob Cohen, Darahoo, he's the one who arranged the loaves, Balfa when he's the ones who baked them. So he's going to be liable for two different Torah prohibition violations. Whereas Ha, where we said only one is Darahavray, where his friend Jim

12:27did the arranging of the loaves, Balfa, and he himself was one who put them in. The only thing he did wrong was put him in the oven, but there was a big no-no. And therefore, he violated the Darahisa period. Tanrabanan, they're going to bring a Bryce that goes to the second line, I almost say on the second line and I'm at base. The Hasha also done, you know, if you have that's a like a sheep, it's the first born sheep, it has a certain holiness to it. And if the sheep develops a mom, that's one thing, but if it does not develop a mom, you can't like put a mom on it. By the way, in the old days, you would be born in the basement, there's a caravan, but we don't have any basement, there's any more. So Hasha also done, let's say I got a blood clot, I guess it's dangerous blood clot, are you allowed to blood let it? Well, may keys in had done the Malkim Shaynaus in my womb, you could blood let, I guess, make a little hole in it and let some of the blood out. And that would I guess be beneficial, health wise for the animal, as long as it's in a place that it does not make a blemish, however, in

13:28make keys in the Malkim Shaynaus in my mom, you would not be able to let's say if it's the tip of the ear and you'd have to like snip off part of the ear, which would make it a bum, you would not be allowed to blood let it, that's deeper, it'd be mayer, we boxer, it'd be mayer, the Chachamim, a second of four to naked beings, we're going to see we box the Chachamim, they say, yak is, no, no, you can blood that the animal often shuriken by mom, even if it's a place where a mom would develop as long as you make sure that you're not going to mature the becourt to yourself, because of that mom, you'd have to develop another mom, but watch the Yishra that the person, the Israel light, who has this first born animal, is not going to slaughter based on the mom that he himself made. Rupshimon, who we box time here, Rupshimon says, Afnish qadal, he said, mom, he says, no, you could even check on the mom, I guess that's Rupshimon, according to what we know, he's the one who says, the Dovershin misconvain is actually mutter, we're most familiar with that as far as shop is, I don't know what's the secretia, anyway, ribhuda, we box ribhuda, ribhuda, ribhuda, lemur, afilumase,

14:28aim, makies, loy, even if the animal's going to die because of this blood clot, you do not put a blemish into a first born animal, no matter what, that's the end of the tonight's source. It constantly throughout the mesecta, if you're following along, many times I'll be using the gears of the sheet, if it sounds a little bit different, that which I'm reading, either making a mistake or I'm using the gears of the sheet, Amaravgiyabar, Abah, Amarabiyah, Hakanan, Hakomaidim, this is going to sound like it's coming a little bit out of left field. So let's do the Rashi on this Hakomaidim, and the end of the line, be mechametsachar, mechamets, and I called that a, we're going to have three cases, two of which ribhuda, Abah says, that's not where this macho goes, like I want to agree, and then there's this third case of putting a mum, after mum was already there, by the way, wait, Rashi has it, you can have no mum greater than a blood clot that's basically going to have the animal die. Okay, so let's see the Rashi on the fourth line of Rashi, Hakomaidim. I fuck up the

15:32plegee, even though we just saw in the today's source, we just read, four way macho's tonight, the matil mum achar mum, what happens if a person puts a mum in a before, after is already mum could go in Haka, like that case, the oxoidam, where there's a blood clot that the animal has, the end lachamum got on me say, kind of a mum bigger than that, Shara Yamos, animal's going to die, Afiluhahi, even though that's the case, moidim, be mechametsachar, mechamets, that's what we're going to get to, once you start reading the gomara, mechametsachar mechamets, be mechametsach is colloimar, which is making something, chamets, which is a big problem. Call colloimar, it's wheeling on the colloimar, call him a cyan bechimous, anyone who helps along that chimous process, could go in oirach, the one who arranges the loaves, achar alash, after the one who needed the doe, the oifa, and the one who bakes it, or oifa, achar oirach, after the one who arranges it, cool on the colloimar, they're all going to be chayet. So here we go. Back in the gomara, at the end of the third line, I'll call moidim everyone agrees, ay, be mechametsachar mechamets, where

16:34you have somebody doing something that makes them chamets, after someone else do something that makes them chamets, shul chayet, that even though the second person is doing something, but the first person already made it chamets, still the second person is going to be liable, to receive, because of the puzzle that indicates loisase, chamets don't make it, chamets is a general thing, and also loisase, chamets don't bake it chamets, and therefore just like the baking is an individual act, then there's a liability. So to any individual act, there'd be a liability, even if someone already made it chamets in some previous preparation, comma, B, I put a letter B in here and circled it, and underline these words from massage, I'm sorry, how about if somebody castrates an animal after a castrates an animal, now the one way to cast an animal, I'll just take a, I don't know what a sharp kitchen knife and hack off its male organ with its testicles, there's other things though, it's actually a psukum in the chumish, that mention a number of different things that could be done. For instance, you could detach the testicle from the tube that attaches it, and then certainly not kind of kids, but you leave

17:35the testicle hanging in the sack, or you can actually remove the testicle from the sack, that would be missaurei's, achar missaurei's doing an act of castration after a previous act of castration, underline those few words, chuhu khayev, definitely there would be a liability for anyone who's involved in any one of those acts, dixi, because like the psukus says, it lists off umau, the kossus, the nato, the kauros, there's all different types of ways of castrating an animal, now why listing all of them? Imaal, kairesu khayev, he's going to be liable just for detaching the testicle, even though it's still hanging there in the sack, I'll nautically culturally not all the more so if you actually like removes the testicles from the sack, elah, rather I squeal in the elah, havi nautika khayev is coming to include even somebody who doesn't act after a previous act, that even though the first guy, the animal is definitely sterile, the second guy is also going to be liable. Okay, nomaklok is in either the a or b case, kama, loi, nekhle, kuhu elah, sea, I wrote in a sea insertable, there'd been matil, mumbum, mumbum. Let's

18:35say a person puts a moment in an animal that already has a mumbum, which kind of like that was our discussion. Rebimayur who I double underline, sovar, we're going to deal with two of the ten ayin, the first person I know we had in the Bryce in the bottom of the previous page, which is Rebimayur, Rebimayur who I double underline, sovar, he holds that when the Pusks says, kuhu, mumb, loi, elah, he could have just said, mumb, loi, elah, what's the kuhu, mumbum, it's a rebui implies even a mumbum that was put on after it was already a mumbum. Okay, that's Rebimayur's opinion, rub on on, we double on, we double on, on safari, there are the opinion, no, the Pusks says tummin, yellow red sign, like totally physically pure should it be, to be desirable. Okay, and the implication of that is, if it's totally fine, it's okay, but if it's not, like it's got a mumbum, then it's already got a mumbum and do whatever you want with it. That's the way Rebimayur learns it. Excuse us, that's where the Rebunna learned it, comma. Now we're going to ask what does Rebimayur do with the Rebunna's Pusks, what is Rebunna do with Rebimayur's Pusks. So, if Rebimayur, I single underline the Rebimayur here, and about six

19:37lines later, first word along is khmashmalan, I underline the Rebunna, which is the next word there. So, what does Rebimayur do, ask, more Rebimayur, Namihaxif, Pusks does say, this is the Pusks of the Rebunna brought, quote, three words, tummim, ye le rotsin, which kind of implies that you see they're totally fine or ones no good, then it's no good to make them what you do to it. Well, no, there'll be Mayur would tell you how, who that phrase is coming, the Muthi, to exclude a Balmumikara, an animal that, like, originally from the beginning of Balmum. So, you see, one second, a Balmumikara, if the animal had, like, of a Balm line, it was born with three legs, Dikla Balmuhu, as far as like, I don't know, offering that as a carbon, that's essentially like a piece of palm tree. Ella, Lemur Ute, rather, is coming to exclude Pusksulya Mahmukhda, Shunakha Pidyaanam. If you had something that was valid to be brought as a carbon, that became Pussel, and it was redeemed. Sog, thank you for coming, I might have thought to say, you have limitations on that animal, how you'll sense fast here, because if you have a way to, you can't share it, if it's a sheep, you can't work it, if it's, let's say, an ox, I would have thought also, maybe, Bimmum, Namihaxif, let's read the story, ostrich, to put a moment in it, Kamashmalan, we're

20:38told that that's not the case. Period. Verabon, I'm going to have a banana, what's the banana do with your mayor's Pusks, so I'm going to have a banana, Namihaxif, it says Kalmumlaye boi, no plumage, shall there be in it? What do they do that kind of sounds like any plumage? Well, no, the Rebanu would tell you who that phrase, me by the way, look at the sign is needed for that, which we see in the following four line to make source with which we will conclude, says the to make source, quote, in the Pusks, quote, the Kalmumlaye boi, end quote, Ailee, Ella, so I would only know Shalow, ye tame boi, moomlaye boi, that you cannot actively put a moom in the animal, okay fine, however me nai'in shalow ye groimlaye a de a hairem, very yiddish a thing, I can't put a moomla in it, but once they like I put a nice piece of sweet dough on the ear of this behora, and then a, I don't know, a dog will come along and bite it off, a bite off the dough, and also get some of the ear and, oh, prepsto instant moom, so me nai'in shalow ye groim, you can't do something that would cause it via something else, in other words, Shalow ye a ni'ach potsek, o dva'il'in not to leave, a little

21:40bit of dough, a sweet fruit al-gabi, like a, a, a little bit of fig al-gabi ha oizin, on the ear of the animal that you want to have a moomkidae, shiava keluvia, two lenders, so that's a dog will come and take it away, takes it, don't take a big bite out of it, but it'll also be part of the ear, well, time will come when the Pusks says, Kalmum, that's the Pusks, which any moom, what do we learn from that, achat moom, the achat Kalmum, whether it's a moom that the person actively put in or any moom, even if he only one step removed caused it to come to be, that would be the end of the

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