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Art Bell interviews first-time guest Robert Collins, a career Air Force veteran who spent 22 years in avionics, communications, engineering, physics, and intelligence at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base's Foreign Technology Division. Collins describes how a casual conversation in a classified vault in 1985 led him to retired lieutenant colonel Ernie Kellerstrauss, who shared extraordinary stories about UFO encounters and recovered materials.
Collins recounts the 1959 Misawa, Japan incident in which an F-106 pilot fired a full salvo of missiles at a hovering disc-shaped UFO with no effect. According to the account, a tractor beam then emerged from the craft and pulled the aircraft toward it while ground controllers listened to the pilot's screams. He also discusses classified compounds on Sandia Base used for testing on recovered non-human biological materials, with body parts allegedly on loan from Wright-Patterson.
The discussion expands to cover underground tunnel systems connecting military installations, including Area 51, Los Alamos, and Dulce. Collins explains how he spent years verifying these accounts through multiple sources within the intelligence community, ultimately concluding that the government UFO cover-up spanning over 60 years is real. The first hour features open lines with callers discussing current events.
Collins recounts the 1959 Misawa, Japan incident in which an F-106 pilot fired a full salvo of missiles at a hovering disc-shaped UFO with no effect. According to the account, a tractor beam then emerged from the craft and pulled the aircraft toward it while ground controllers listened to the pilot's screams. He also discusses classified compounds on Sandia Base used for testing on recovered non-human biological materials, with body parts allegedly on loan from Wright-Patterson.
The discussion expands to cover underground tunnel systems connecting military installations, including Area 51, Los Alamos, and Dulce. Collins explains how he spent years verifying these accounts through multiple sources within the intelligence community, ultimately concluding that the government UFO cover-up spanning over 60 years is real. The first hour features open lines with callers discussing current events.
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