
About this episode
"Marketing is flattening" is the doomscroll take of the moment. Every CMO community, every newsletter, every panel: AI is going to make every brand sound the same, look the same, and blur into one giant beige blob. Mordy and Miruna think that take is missing the actual point — and quietly letting marketers off the hook.
Miruna's rant: AI isn't a person. It's a tool. And like any tool, the output is a function of what you put in. Going back to Amanda Natividad's line from Episode 1 — AI is a magnifying glass. Crap in, magnified crap out. Nothing in, magnified nothing out (a.k.a. bland AI slop). The "marketing is flattening" framing treats this like something happening to us, instead of a result of what we're choosing to do with the tool.
Mordy's piece of it: a lot of the flatness is coming from the top. Google, OpenAI, and the rest are pitching agentic in the most vanilla way imaginable — "use it to refresh content, fill brand gaps" — because they're optimizing for investor confidence, not creative use. If marketers buy that framing wholesale, the flattening is self-inflicted. The unflat work is still possible. It just requires you to bring your own creativity, judgment, and standards into the tool — not outsource them to it.
Bianca Dragan, Head of Marketing at Clove, joins with the frame that landed hardest in the episode: think of brand trust as a bank account. Every piece of AI slop you push out is a withdrawal. Do enough of those and the account closes. The real fear isn't that AI is flattening marketing. It's what marketers are willingly trading their trust balance for.
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