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This episode is brought to you by Netflix. All right, baseball fans get ready for the first time in history The major league season kicks off with one exclusive opening night game live on Netflix the New York Yankees led by Sometime also Aaron judge Roll into the San Francisco Bay to battle rap field divers in the San Francisco Giants the weight is over It's time to play ball watch MLB opening night the New York Yankees versus the San Francisco Giants live on Netflix Wednesday March 25th at 8 p.m. Eastern time 5 p.m. Pacific time Time you get in last night. We're this morning. What time you get in this morning from the Oscar parties? There was no get in. I did a quick wardrobe change and came right here. Oh, so you you haven't okay. You broke day I broke day no question about what were the what were the after party because there's the parties and then the after parties and then you know Well, first of all before we get to the after parties and all that first of all I play LACC as we can. Okay, my man Austin Mutton and play he he was nice enough to invite me out. I played the North
Side of LACC, which is most challenging side of the golf course the champion side So that was great. Let's fascinate it good But and then and then you know The weekend was great. Yeah We had it was a great great Oscar night. Okay. Have a lot of fun During the day and then last night and got into some festivities, right, you know, that's what I remember last Oscar Party. Yeah, you know, the Oscar night is is actually pretty cool. I mean Jay Z Timothy Shalam You had a whole well that that that was it. We had a repeat offender. Uh-huh. We definitely had a repeat offender. I see But you you you hit the vanity fair, which I did not last night. Yeah, normally I do. Why'd you skip it? I didn't really skip it. It was just kind of like the day You know, and normally normally it'd be a it'd be a lot of us going and it wasn't this year for whatever reason
But it looked amazing. It was at the LACMA this year, which obviously you know, I'm with the LACMA Are you on the board? Yes, I am on the board of LACMA. Yes, pretty good. And But that looked amazing. Everyone looked amazing there. And then I popped by by a guy's series for for a bit and saw sorry everyone there and that was nice. And then I end the night at the gold party Which the gold party is something that is Obviously I can't give you is no cameras. That's why I can't give you too much of a you don't see anything. They put they put the The tape over the phone. No, no, there's no tape. There's a there's a understanding. Okay, there's understanding that if you put High-class enough. Well, if you put that phone out and take a picture The next stop for you would be a bed It's not because it's not the Derek Jeter where you got to put it put it in there. No, no, no, no, it's called We politely actually leave right think because the whole purpose you guys are on the honor system Well, yeah, and and people respected and obviously it's Jay So but but the whole purpose is for you to feel comfortable for the award winners to come and really enjoy themselves
And and for people to be able to just dance and have a great time and and Jay and and these are great hosts and The music number one is not hard to believe No, you're jazzy Jeff. Yeah that no jazzy Jeff then germane to pre right right and You know like literally everyone's dancing having a great time It's it's it's it's elegance. It's a celebration It's it's everything you can imagine telling me you saw I think it was Jay from across the room lip sync Oh, we were to himself Michael Jackson lyrics or something. No, anything last year. No, no Yes, actually something did happen like that. We were listening to It's funny that you remember that but it's always Jay and I have in this this this This kind of thing moment. Yeah, this moment because obviously he is mr. music, and I love music, but
This year that that was that was who played that It was a It was like the sample or the it was the The tape the What was the reference of right of that that they use yeah, but they use that Mac Jackson song and you heard the reference we heard the reference he was he was you so he's kind of like thinking about lyrics No, he played the reference the DJ. Yeah, played the reference prior to Playing the actual song. Oh, that's fresh. Yeah, first of all is that's like playing the I do this I do a version of that. That's oh, it was quest love who did that. Yeah, yeah, that's right That's right. It was incredible. I do a version of that in the Card of school with my daughter. I'll play her where the sample the song where the sample came from and then the hip-hop version of the song that used The sample and repurposed it, right? Yeah, but that's next level use the reference and then you play the song Yes, it was that wasn't but we talked in quest love here, which is incredible and and then but last night it was actually
This this mob deep Quiet storm, but but but but little Kim's verse Okay, and we were talking about just that verse alone her cadence and the might have the greatest female rap features or album Front to back that might be my number one, which her her debut album. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was a classic. I was yeah, and And First of all the everything about that album was classic. She created how Provocative women became on on the on the covers and things like like she talked that she was but also the songs themselves She's super fly I'm producing the production all of that, but you know the the thing about The the goal party is first of all it's black excellence with everyone welcome and You know, it's just one of those things when sinners win at the Academy Awards by the way sinners won I can't sit through the Oscar
They won best cinematography obviously Michael B1 Best actor. Yeah, I mean he could have Michael B Jordan is one of those guys who could win for anything he's in really He's excellent. Yeah, but but but nevertheless it was a great night. I left right there go Switched up came right here. I'm fresh though. I'm fresh because the the the hospitality you just have to again I can't talk too much about it Yeah, it's one of them places where you just have to be there and you have and it's not like a thing where you Automatically invite it you have to keep getting reinvited right every year So that's what the behavior system is yeah, yeah, it's real Santa Claus, but it's a kind of a great Santa Claus It's great to see if you're naughty or nice And everyone's there having a really nice time. You get to see you know what I met last night Kadeem Hardison's mom miss miss hardest she you know she was One of the first black models and she also really fought for people
You know in the the the movie space In many different ways and she was the nicest lady last night and it was like That was fly that was don't you always meeting everyone's mother Because I'm a nice guy and maybe just how you can tell a knife also You're when you're you're when you get older to the point where you're a certain age no you're in that mother bracket No, you're seeing everyone's mom. They look at contemporary. She was hanging last night She was great. Yeah, and you can tell a lot about someone when they when they when someone's mother Actually likes them because mom knows best, right? That's just a lot of others who don't like their kids No, I'm talking about their friends or you know people that they yeah, they're gonna be able to give you a read like Max but see you hard had it. I know you didn't listen. What Max stay away from that guy. Who? I'm sure your mom told you that. Oh, oh, you didn't listen as a kid No, but let's talk more about the Oscars when we get into this show
But last night was a great night. It was a great night. You're a trooper coming breaking day here. You are bright All night of type of guy. Yeah, this is Yeah, those days are in my past. I mean, you get one a year It's a great night. I try not to ever break day. It was a great night. What do you mean? You're just hanging the music is great Great caviar. Yeah, hmm. You're a caviar guy if that's not the first time I've heard you mentioned caviar Well, I like nice things. Yeah, you know, but it was I mean every Cali pizza. How about that? It a little in and out. Could you could you see Michael B went to in and out last night with the trophy? Let's get it for him. Let's start the show so we can talk more about that This episode of Game Over is presented to you by loom if your organization runs on endless email threads and status meetings teams feel stuck Unstuck them with loom the AI first video platform by Atlassian Teams record their screen and share a link so others review on their own time
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Like with money on with the money on the line right big East tournament finals and they and they got waxed So I don't know that's a good question. I it's kind of a chalky year, I think though Yeah, I think it's always tough for all four final fours to make it but it could be this year, but I tell you one thing There's some there's some There's a ton of talent. Let me tell you something along those lines All year you're hearing Peterson in advance, right and boozer. He's a great college player who'd be a good pro player Maybe his upside is in his high To me easily easily the best player I've seen in college is a cuff Right to me. I don't know that and I know that everyone wants a switchable six foot seven eight guy Yeah, and everything but and what is he six three or something like that? He's Derek Rose 2.0 Maybe a little shorter than that, but but he's the new Derek Rose, but got the same coach Whatever he's whatever he's lacking in height making up for it in heart and skills and well skills speaks for itself
But still you have to have some he there's some there's some there's some some dog in there. Here's the thing Paul George is a great player And if the bands are someone like that could be the next Paul George great, but When you are picking high high up in the draft, especially if you have the number one pick and it's a really great draft The only way to really acquire the best player on a championship team for most teams is to draft that guy If if in a deep draft if I come away with Paul George and I had the number one pick You can't really be upset, but I'm looking I don't I need I need more to I need I want to select the and I look at a cuff And I go that dude can be the best player on a championship team, but here's the thing His name is no longer Daria's a cuff. It is Daria's a tough Okay, because he is you know, I give these nicknames out. Yeah In key moments he's he's got it, but you guys yeah, but it's not just see people get so caught caught up in the scoring points And everybody just catching on the Daria's a cuff
You know, my Rashad's been telling me about Daria's a cup. He has a mentor. It's like an uncle to him And everyone knew he's really really good. It's just like Forever right and it's dad and and you know, they deserve all the flowers that that that is happening for the young man, but People are just catching on to it and they're looking at the box score and saying oh, he's the best player because of points No, you have to see how he is playing the game Making the right reads how he is playing both ends of the floor. I'm scared of the moment. Yeah, how he's executing in key moments How he's can obviously can have 27 he's had 27 28 30 etc But fast twitchy But also making the extra pass all the things that it takes to really have the signs of Because it's not just talent. Can you really be a good pro? Right, I look at a cuff and I see Derek Rose. I see a dude who can who can see Marbury you see Derek Rose
You see a you see a number of things and there's this thing going around about maybe he's the best point guard that maybe the best guard that that Coach Call is ever coach. He's got some good ones. I kind of think that's unfair to the kid But it's good that to be in that company to even be in that conversation with all the guards that came out of Kentucky and now Arkansas Forget about it, but Here's the thing I would say We all say you know people talk about he should go number one. He should be in the conversation for number one. Well Wherever he goes he will be that team's number one pick and for the kid hopefully for him It's the right place. Don't get overwhelmed about Number one because number one could be somewhere that is not The best place for you. Yeah, but what I'm saying is if I have a pick in this dress or not overwhelm If I have a pick on this draft and a cuff is available. I don't care who I have it point guard. I don't care I'm taking the best player. I'm taking a cuff in this draft, but that is not true
And that's now how GM stinks and that's why you're not a GM if that's not why I'm not a GM however Maybe a mistake I'm making is a GM, but I don't think it is if you have a dude It's like in the NFL you're like if you're drafting a certain you want a gold jacket guy You want a guy's going to be in the hall of fame if I'm drafting this goes back to the Jordan thing Bobby Knight who should we draft number one overall draft Jordan Well, we need a center draft Jordan playing at center right draft a cuff and figure it out later That dude is the best player in this draft. Yes, but nor if if you have Like I can name several teams. I have point guards and wouldn't do it, right? So but if you are thinking down the road And you are taking them you're taking them if you have someone already Or you look last year They San Antonio took Harper and they had Fox and Castle. Yeah, so I'm not saying that we're gonna have pretty good Yeah, you're not starting wrong it in that case. Yeah At all, but I will say it's what you said though rich. It's when a guy has a high basketball when he checks every box
Yeah, when he has a high basketball IQ when he is a high care team athlete when he's tough as you say Yes, he's not afraid of the big moment when he's a team player when he's well coached in cop that is hard to pass up I agree that is that is hard to I want to do my five-minute max right now because we have so much to get to Let's do your top. So who your top or your top five change because he wasn't originally in the top five He's my number one. I have to think about them. Okay. Well, I can tell you this the Peterson Peterson to Basta Wilson A cuff Why am I missing one? Oh boozer boozer. Yeah, but I will say I will say not in order. You're just saying that order But there's two guys in this draft that Could could really affect things all right one is a cuff and the other one is Braden Burris right yeah, because of their guard play. Yeah So I wouldn't be surprised any of those guys The teams nowadays are looking like it's hard to win with small guards
Yeah, I think a cuff is that small, but it's hard to win with small guards You gotta be dying which he is yeah, you gotta be just special special. Yeah, because you want to be in moments to where Again, they're hunting for the switch nowadays. They're there So that mean they're bringing they're putting a smaller guy in every ball screen. Yeah, it's tough Especially during the course of 82 game season and it really gets even tougher in the playoffs So you have to fight through those things But just having that versatility in that size being able to see over the screen being able to actually be on the other end and get the mismatch Being able to be the screener or and or the guy that's initiating off. I think he's tall enough. I'm not looking I don't look at like guy who's like well, he's a bitty, but he's also dude So his guy Rashad Phillips who played at university Detroit. He was tough That's who trained him the whole time. So he's understanding how to play it again in right way If you see him be trapped off the Dr. Ball screen. He's gonna retreat dribble to where he can see over the defense. He's gonna make he's gonna
He's gonna have ways to get himself into space to where he can have You know a clean line of a passing lane not to turn a ball. Yeah, this is not like an Isaiah I don't mean Zeke. I mean the next Isaiah Thomas situation where he's an excellent player He really is so small that it creates problems in the end of games even though you'd love to put him on the tour is not that Yeah, the second Isaiah Thomas was excellent about that. Yeah, you're right about that all right Listen here. So we have to get to the Lakers beating the nuggets and over time. There's so much in that game We you know, there's LeBron stuff. There's Lucas stuff. There's Austin Reeves stuff. There's JJ redic stuff. We got to get to Just like the thunder beat the wolves right the thunder thunder looking good But I want I want to give you my five minute max right now. Okay, because there's so much stuff rich here it is We are spoiled Sports fans right now like think about it. This is considered before March Madness is considered a dead spot in the sports calendar
Right, you hear people say that a lot the NFL is so far away baseball hasn't started yet The NBA isn't in the playoffs yet, etc Think about what just happened over this last weekend. Okay, so the reason I bring this up is because Dana white You know, he and I talk a bunch and I know I was picking his brain when he's coming up with Zufa boxing When he called me about it Because you want it to be successful like the UFC. So what's the the the key to success in the UFC and one of them He told me is in every broadcast. He tries to give the fans Three holy shit moments like oh my god. Did you just see that? Think about the number of oh my god. Did you just see that moments over this sports weekend? Okay, never mind Bams 83 points. We saw history everything that came out again like oh my god. That's like a week ago already forget about them Okay, I know that seemed like a meant to go that it just happened and it just happened But this weekend so Aaron judge yesterday through a guy out at third base
With a throw that made him look like what my dad just tell me Roberto Clemente Through in right field Aaron judge is known like maybe the best hitter ever But his the throw he made That would be Bay Bonds was the best hitter ever who's not clearly enhanced. All right, listen Sorry, that's what it is. Yeah, so that would be Bay Bonds, but whatever. Yeah, right if you just want to see the best Baseball hitting and I don't care how they got there. It's bonds, but anyway So so judge throws them out at third base. That's an oh, oh my god. Did you see that moment, right? There's one the USA We beat DR on a on a called third strike that was a ball that was leading a lot of shows this morning But and it wasn't an oh my god moment, but it was like a memorable moment, right? Rick patino Rick patino Gets destroyed by Yukon three or four weeks ago, right? Destroyed to the point where I was like oh, okay, I get it now Yukon's the best team in the country
But in the big east tournament, right with the chips on the line Rick patino's team blows out Yukon a 20 point game In a college tournament and in the big east tournament Rick patino like He's a guy when you think about his Influence on the history of basketball. I don't think people understand the profundity of his influence the scope You better forget about the fact that he was a very successful pro and college coach his Career was over it ended in scandal. He had to leave the country. He's back He's back. He's back in the tournament and he's still kicking us through the NIL thing and everything all these other guys leave the sport He is a basketball junkie. I think he would die if he weren't coaching It's keeping them alive like a vampire. He's like he this dude. That's his life blood Rich I think about how the three-point shot has changed the game patino is so Intimately involved in that the bomb squad with the nicks with Mark Jackson and Johnny Newman and all those guys who were
patino was the original dantonies like get up a lot of these type of shots Mark Jackson was on that team who eventually brought that philosophy to golden state and told curry and clay shoot shoot from there That's okay, right? That completely influenced the NF the the NBA and this dude is just whooped up on the maybe the best team in the country Who blew you saw the look on his face a couple weeks ago? That was the Arizona go ahead right maybe but I mean you cons up there You saw the look on patino's face when you can beat him. He was humiliated right like you're thinking Oh, what's gonna happen if these two see each other again? That's what happened the a cuff with 37 He goes off for 37 handful of games ago. He had 49 right then you had Selection Sunday. Yes, hold on Luca had a 30-point triple double after a 50-point game Lebron is a hundred years old. I know we're gonna get to this in a second. He a hundred years old. He laid out He looked like Greg Nettles at third base Diving for a ball in the world series in the 78s. He laid out for for a loose ball
Max Crosby is still available in the NFL by the way because that deal got undone is AJ Brown and get about to get moved right? This is the dead spot The giants my giants signed Darnell mooney from the from the Falcons He's a get behind the defense athletic high upside receiver my point is this last weekend in sports Gate was so jam packed. This is the dead spot. It's unbelievable. We're spoiled. I can see you like You're overheating. Yeah, like I can see it max. Yeah, I'm done. That's it This is five that was five minutes strong. All right Here's what I'll say Do you think we can get the tape my father used to get the tape Uh, he didn't he didn't go to church all the time when he didn't go to church. He would have Revin Howard at the time Just send him the sermon So he can listen to it himself if you if you miss church. Yeah, do you think we can get the tape of
Rick Patinos Talk after that game pre-game. No, not after. Oh pre-game. I'm saying I'm saying after the lost No, no, no, I want the talk if looks could kill boy before the game. Yeah That he had with that team because that team the way they came out and played You know, I love those Kentucky teams with Rick Patino sure. Oh, look. I mean he was I mean, do you know the Wayne Turner Mercer Derrick Anderson Antoine Walker Epps I mean You watch him a cardie He just had you just had so many guys so many guys Rick Patino is great for college basketball. He's great for basketball, but definitely college basketball and Think about it Rick Patino coach two guys. He coached Walter Clayton right at Iona before he went to Florida
Went to Iona to coach and then the young man Jenkins that's playing extremely well And Detroit right who just got a just got a contract coach him to yeah He said the other day that there was a young man that's in pro at Providence that Rick Patino says going to be a pro Now he may not be high on people's boards or whatever, but if Rick Patino says yes He's seen enough pros to tell you Definitely, but I'll say this all that you just talked about Which great for sports fans The problem I have is when you turn on the TV People act as if Everything is bad. You just you just want a five-minute rent. Yeah, thank God. I was only five minutes But you just want to five-minute rent and it was all positive You know, I think part of the reason is it's hard to find everything like you you have multiple subscriptions You got to be going back and forth to find it if you're if you're if you're you know if you got an Apple TV or whatever you got
It is it's hard to find stuff. Man. It's aggravating. You know, it is, but That's great. It's great for sports. I'm excited for it all I want I wanted to go to one of those baseball games, but the world baseball class is just not enough just not enough Hours in a day. No get to all these things. No, I want to go to Indian Wells. I miss Indian Wells I wanted to go to I mean it was two games I actually went to the Clippers Kings game instead of going to the Lakers Nuggets game Yeah, that was in the best choice, but yeah, it actually was why What do you mean? Why not? I like the Clippers. Lakers Nuggets came the next game But I always I go to a tunnel like I was watching on my phone. It was great. That's true Yeah, that's what I do all the time Game overs brought to you by fan duel the tournament is here and on fan duel. It's time to dance right now Fan duel is dropping bonus bets into everyone's account for the tournament All you have to do is opt in to claim your bonus got an upset rolling with the one seed Calling for chaos
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When America leads America cures Let's tell Washington to keep us in the lead learn how at america cures dot com pay for by pharma Let's get into lakeers nuggets. Okay, sure Lakeers beat the notes. I had to start with you ourselves. I got to start with you with Lebron Went if Lebron people are like oh, I did ever used to see Lebron make that kind of play if I'm a coach of a team And Lebron make in his prime makes that kind of play you're mad Of course you do not want a player in his prime as great as Lebron was To ever Your threshold for injury tolerance for injury risk is very low now if it's game seven of the finals go ahead But in a regular season game, I'd better not see Lebron do that in his prime However as your talent diminishes as you get older your skill stays the same or gets better usually You know how you know how and your technique, but your talent how fast you run out high you jump back on your first step
diminishes over time he's a hundred years old and he does that if Lebron can play that style of basketball if he's like I'm actually the glue guy on this team that's gonna make sure everything's okay for everybody Lucas running the offense Austin Reeves is the number two squaring option But I'm the everything man who's gonna like you said be the Carl Malone type guy But also be the kind of like Dennis Robin kind of guy if Lebron can sustain that for You know six weeks or something like that Lakers are extremely dangerous rich Well, look, I think you hear all the nonsense about And I I hate to talk keep talking about the Lakers, but we have to because Lakers cowboys Yankees are some brands, but what talks but But you hear all the nonsense about the team being better without Lebron I've never seen a team in my life that would be better without Lebron James till this one this year until recently No, still this one not either because of all the things you just said
I think it's more so about Figuring it out and sometimes it takes you longer than not because for a guy that's been on the ball for so long How do you play them off the ball? But then Obviously you put them in the corner because that's supposed to be you know second-side action But that may not yeah that may not work there so it but it takes and they didn't get reps together because one of them was always hurt all year Yes, but it also takes you a while to figure it out and you also have to count keeping You have to understand or factor in His presence you gotta realize something most Guys that steps on the basketball floor with the Lebron James number one are in all Right if they're not trying to pretend like there's there They get into somebody else or what not If they're not put on the act It's by the way the act as you say that If you walk into a room and you want to see if if you're a guy or a girl and and you want to see if you're getting rhythm from somebody across the room
And they never look at you once Throughout the entire time you're in the room That tells you something they're avoiding it right that that means that they they're trying to they're kicking game in a way Right that's not the same thing is kind of looking at you for a second and looking at someone else When Lebron it if a team is put together and people are going out of their way to kind of not notice Lebron They're telling on themselves a little bit because That's not really possible right the the other thing is Obviously Every game is a Is a championship for a lot of people, you know because what young player don't want to play well They've been watching them all this life What team mate don't want to play well because they've been watching them all their life their basketball careers I mean the guy's been the league for 23 years So I just I just some things when you when people's especially basketball people when basketball people say certain things that I
Kind of respect their basketball Acumen and then they say certain things because of just Flow on with the the that's just the way everything is going. I'm just like What do you respond to specifically what comments? Well, there was a comment that that said that the Lakers were better without Well, okay, well, so this is interesting, right? That's analytic the sample size wasn't huge But it wasn't tiny either and I would agree that one of the reasons it was probably like this what I'm about to say Is because there was very little continuity with the big three playing together, right? However, it was interesting that they went from a very good offensive team with Luca and and Austin Reeves on the floor together to a bad offensive team if you added Lebron It didn't make sense because I agree with you Lebron's overall game is such that any team you ever put him on should only ever get better So it was curious that this was get that this team was getting worse offensively I agree with your analysis. They were figuring it out in retrospect. Yeah, but it was alarming because it's like
If Lebron doesn't have that thing Where he's making a team better and he's 40 plus years old and he's in his 23rd season Maybe it's the end, right? Like that's what but the but the fact is since you brought it up the net rating stats are now plus of with those three guys playing together Max, do you know how hard it is To not start training camp and have rhythm right It's just and by the way, it's not like he's ever had an issue with Starting the season or getting out or playing the right way. He's always only played the right way too much the right way sometimes Yeah, he's the one guy that can play really play and know how to play Every position on the floor if he was a five man, he's gonna set the proper think about it If he was if he's your five man when she was playing some small ball five He's a little more work in the post. I think to be a great five, but yes, not no more because you have a stretch five right?
It's true. So now if he's your five man and you have a one three Or one five. I'm saying that he's yeah, yeah, but you have a one five picking role with either Luke or AR great because now the He's rolling so now he's making the secondary He's your secondary decision maker. Who would you rather have an entirely he can play the two because he could guard your other team's point This is the part and he can make up this is the point on making, but you understand what comes with it, right? You understand what comes with it. You didn't hear that from The organization never said that or any of the rare Not responding to what I was thinking myself It's not that I was thinking this is definitive. They're getting worse, but I was thinking I have a question Is this because they haven't had continuity so far? Is there something behind the scenes where luca resents Lebron or Lebron But but what it appears to be at this moment is the is the not getting enough reps with continuity the three of them together to figure it out until
When you here's the thing When you have guys, there's two type of players There's a guy that can go and get it and there's a guy who is of what what I would call a Not a specialist right During the course of NBA's regular season Specialists actually have a ton of value Because that's one of those situations where it's a swing swing that guy's in the corner and that corner guy he can only shoot three's right he's a specialist But then you get to the point to where you need a guy that can actually put the ball in the ground and go and get it themselves right When you have These guys in your top heavy with these type of guys It takes a little while to figure it out because normally you this is why I always set my theory about a big three Normally you only really need a big two Because it it allows you to think less about that third guy who has
Not necessarily entitlement But who is talented enough to have some own some type of real estate and being able to pull out their DIY kid Here, but I like your definition for people who have don't know the way you fix I'm all paraphrase you tell me if I got it or not the the reason big three's don't actually exist is to say a big three It means each player is capable of being the nucleus of a championship team. Yes, usually you have a big two Obviously, you could do it with weight if he has a crime partner. You could do it. Lebron But Bosch as great a player as he was two way player is not the centerpiece of a championship team right yes Kevin Love was an excellent player is not the centerpiece of a championship team Even if Lebron is and maybe Kyrie could be certainly one of the two Kyrie could be So in fact your claim is and I agree with it. I think it's a good definition big three's don't actually exist because It you just can't put those three guys together. Yes, and here's the other thing. It's not as if
you know, there's been a consistent effort to To have more of The initiating guys right to be able to initiate the offense That doesn't mean that high-level production can't come from a different position because Obviously when AD was here in LA Yeah, a lot of the points are being scored and there's big numbers But it's a difference when you have to get somebody to ball versus when somebody has the ball right initiating offense So you actually need that other initiator sure that could come they didn't have that now you do have it So so now it looks a little different and people want to kind of Go crazy about the idea of it, but that's not true. You have to allow yourself to really Settle in it's like anything else in life if you build a house Right the house can look great And you can have all the the plumbing and all that stuff that foundation still has to settle
It takes years for the foundation to still have to settle and it's the same thing with a team I just thought of a big three that would have that act but actually approves the point because when they were all healthy They just never were they were so much better than everyone when hard and KD and Kyrie were on the same team Yes, they stayed healthy. Yes, they never would have lost the game like they were killing everybody like you know Any two of them were but because that shouldn't exist in nature. Okay, but here's the thing about that big three right When you talk about being able to want one play one on one yeah All three of those guys If you had to rank in the history to leave their way up high their way up high. Yeah When you talk about the three point shot all could do it all three There was not an offensive weakness in anyone by the way off the dribble or Off the catches passing the ball. Yeah, you talk about being able to pass the bus It's very seldom you're going to draw and fouls you're gonna get you're gonna get all of that talent In three guys pretty much equally across the board and I will give
Kyrie the edge in terms of his ability to finish but it's so it's yeah It's so interesting to me like So in physics they say nature abours and naked singularity meaning like there's a black hole which breaks the laws of nature Right, and so you can't actually observe it directly like the universe won't let you that's what was the an actual big three KD Harden and Kyrie was like a naked singularity the universe wouldn't allow it to exist They had to hurt but it was it but but but I want to move on too fast. Yeah, but not to move on too fast I will say what I am seeing is A tremendous change in effort which I know Jay Jay's makers. Yeah, yeah on on defensive side of the ball That play by LeBron when he dove on the floor. I can guarantee you he's filling that today still at that age But what that shows you is that's the that's the passion you're looking for you guys guys who Definitely haven't made the money definitely haven't doesn't have the accolades
definitely doesn't have the the the accomplished mission things like that That that are reluctant to do that then when you talk about having a guy that can close To drive left going away from the double team creating a space to bit You know how hard that shot is to make a 15 footer going left on the baseline right with point five seconds left That's a tough shot by yourself with no money in the arena and nobody else on the floor and then When you think about just This is why I mean you talk about touch The miss the miss to go off left and then to be able to put that you tell about the Austin Reeves free throw. Yeah, so Again, that was like when you think I think of the three things from that game LeBron's diving at a hundred years old laying out like that is nuts Austin Reeves missing a free throw like and it works out like like you would draw it up And Luca After dropping 50 the other night goes for a 30 point triple double in a win against Denver
Yeah, that's huge. He's in a rhythm and obviously, but here's here's the other thing Don't talk bad about Aiden when he plays back talk good about him when he plays good as well and Aiden gave you're not stopping jokers period You're not stopping the man. He's he's he is the guy But the effort that he gave Down the stretch you have to applaud that. What do you think? What are you? 100% Deandre and why I play when he when he says he does basically doesn't want to be clink of hell Which would be an improvement on this Laker's team? He like a prime clink of clink of hell anyway When he plays well, he deserves praise and I know that in the jj redic two men. I jj redic coach in his ass But here's the I know Talking about LeBron brings clicks talking about the Lakers brings brings clicks so somehow some way Even during that effort the last few efforts people find a way to try to bring a negative perspective and I'm not being I don't I don't have a team. I have I represent players on on pretty much every team the league
But I understand basketball and I like to talk basketball But what I'm saying is when we have this good brand of basketball being played Why go for the clickbait when you can actually give the flowers and say hey, that's the element everybody because sports fans are for the most part hate-based life forms Well, let's let's be honest. Not this show, but well Yeah, there is it you're an element of it. I'm not yeah, you're an element of it I love my teams and I hate the other teams let's speaking of Teams I guess not love or hate the nuggets are you are you concerned about Denver at all? No From because they're keep losing a good teams. Yeah, Jamal merge and have the best game. Yeah, Peyton wases not back Right, even though they The Murray's had a great season Yoke itch is there Aaron Gordon is when he's healthy is bawling So so that's like when when those guys are on the floor together. Yeah, but Aaron Gordon's been in the lineup all year I said when he's healthy yet, right, but what I'm saying is At the end of the day, we're talking about regular season games. We're gonna see
Their seating is good. The the the leakers getting ready to go on a really tough road Starting with I mean that was a tough home game. You got two in Houston. You go to Miami. You go to Detroit. These are gonna be tough games, but We are at the point of the season when we got 15 14 games left. Yeah teams are gonna be everyone's fighting for their lives right now This is when you're saying the nuggets are fighting for their lives They have a mostly their stars are all healthy And they lose and over time to the leakers and they just they've lost a lot of these tough games Okay, see where a Yoke itch team when he has his crime partners available to him You would think would be doing a little better than they've been doing recently the only thing I would say is The reserve players did shoot the ball well, but you have to take your head off to the leakers But the point I'm trying to make is it's the regular season So I don't get all you think Denver is a title contender this year of course they are So but how see I agree, but I would rank them out of the west
Look as I as I mentioned Van Vleet is still you know don't look like the the rockets are getting Van Vleet back It's bite of the phone call we had with them on yourself. You don't know that if they had Van Vleet back with enough time Running up to the playoffs And had that least the route we don't know if it's a burner account from KD that you know that story from about a month ago But I think that's caused enough disruption with that team plus not having Van Vleet I'm taking Houston off of my list of teams, but you have to you have to nougat start Yeah, right Yeah, okay, see you have senatorio you have okay see to you have nougat's three Yeah In the end. Yeah when push comes to shove you're right. What took you so long to say? Well only because the thing with Houston so I take them away And the lake man the lake I Mean, I know it's a home game. It's an overtime game. I get it. I get it. Man if the Lakers could figure this out Maybe they'd be my three. I don't know. Well, you just well and that when you again when you have that type of talent
You just have to be able to keep the game close. Yeah, where where Any team can run into an issue is if if you if you Want have to dig a hole to get back into playoff contention that takes a lot out of a team going into the playoffs So that is a blessing not to do that But then it comes down to matchups and also Luca When you get a Luca knowledge if he's playing a losing brand of basketball, which he was for stretches this season hogging the ball Getting himself high percentage shots everyone else is waiting around complaining to the ref not getting back on defense Then you're like oh this team. No, they're not going anywhere when you start to see Luca playing a winning brand of basketball sharing the ball more Of course, he's still monopolizing the ball as he should when he's going well because he he's you know among the very very That's the players of the game when you see him when you see Luca stop complaining and start getting back on defense And and you see Lebron doing what he's doing and all and they start to click now that your whole perception of the Lakers changes
Because we've seen him take a Dallas team, you know To the to the penultimate You need to solid eight in your rotation to hopefully set a foul trouble and execute 99 out in the playoffs to win series Then you need about a nine and a ten that based upon the matchups. You can be able to implement in different Parts of the game in the lineup that help you with the matchups right so Again, when you look at all these teams If you have that great now you need to stay healthy and then obviously shots need to fall so and so forth. So Again, there's parity in the league Everyone has a chance some has a better chance than others and some has a puncher's chance and as you know Mr. Boxing himself that anybody can be knocked out Thunder beat the wolves I think the spurs are the best team in basketball whenever you know especially if jalen Williams is not playing for the matchup We had a very interesting comment yesterday. He said I'm really focusing on my body because I really want to win
MVP and I want to win defensive player the year and if that happens then that You would think they would be in the finals already Who's the who do you think the best team in the west is right now? I say the spurs is it thunder spurs I don't know. I don't you know. I don't really pick a best team in the west. I think that again Based upon I'm watching the basketball to know Is health and matchups if you can stay healthy throughout the playoffs and you can get the right matchups You can get there But again those those those those those Those lights are different as each As each series goes on those lights are definitely different. Yeah, and the spurs are ready for it though Yeah, well here's the thing because the thunder did it last year they weren't ready for you know like they didn't take all the necessary steps This episode is brought to you by loom When your calendars all status meetings and your teams are still misaligned. It's easy to feel stuck Get your org unstuck with loom the AI first video platform by Atlassian
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We talk about the big three, right? Yeah, the big three has evolved the big three is not three You know big name players anymore The big through today's big three is president GM coach Star player in the NBA in the NBA That's where the big three is focused. Yeah, and when you had that It kind of like spreads throughout the rest of the team when I watched that okay C team play I'm changing their name so are you saying you would trade the second best player In it in a big three situation for a team for a great team president And you would trade the third best player for a great coach in other words you the big three for championship is that more than It is three great. Well, well First of all, it depends on who the second best player is if the second best player could possibly be a first Best player like a Tatum or brown then yeah, he's in life there exceptions. Yeah, but if there is Who you would say it's the second best player, but they're not at all NBA count them and players and the answer is yes, right
but Okay, see is okay see IQ When you watch okay see play The the way they move the ball Is They got nine ten maybe eleven guys twelve time everyone on the team can play that actually knows how to play and more importantly They play them right way like I saw Jalen Williams making plays the big feeling. Yeah, hard and Stein making plays that They're not getting the ball looking to try to score the ball. They're getting the ball looking to Make a play the right play not setting in the legal screen but but Making a pass and a screen together where it's getting space for the shooter and now that guy trailing the shooter Is so far away that by the time he even gets to try to close out the guys actually going the other way because the balls already going through the hoop When you have that and you have a closer
In a Shay who just continues to put pressure on the rim continues and and can create space The chip England I'm seeing it. I'm seeing what he's Adding to that team. You know, he's on that bench and came from from San Antonio The way they shoot the ball Every single time Yeah, you're kind of talking me especially if if they had Jalen what if they had both Jalen Williams The issue you're kind of talking me into the and then the key to the thought To okay see a little bit the only thing is The spurs have the same thing. No, listen They got things they they and they have Wembee who I think is the best player in the game I was just focusing on because we mentioned the third the thunder and the wolves game and I watched the game But what I'm saying is That high level basketball Jeremy Kane You add him at the trade deadline think about it. There's teams that didn't make any moves This team who feel who you would think has it all figured out
Wanted to figure it even out and it feels like they're cheating like how are you able to get that guy? How come no one else got that guy? It's called having draft passes But but they want it this team that has it all figured out wants to even more so figure it out It's like that's like an honor student I used to you know you get it you don't get a hundred on the test when you're honest to you get like a hundred and five I know you never been down that road max. I have but That that's the thing, you know and when you talk about the spurs against it's the same thing Wembee is like three players in one. Yeah, he that's crazy, but I want to get back to your big three thing you get rich quick The big three and the NBA team president Coach coach star player star player in other words that's better in fact if you have those three things than having of so-called big three Maybe two franchises players and one all star, but do you know why it's better? Why let me tell you why it's better Because it doesn't affect your cap
Mm-hmm to the point to where you can't have flexibility to continue to Make the team better right the GM and the coach cost nothing on the cost of against your cat. So I want to I'm thinking about this now Are you mad you didn't think of that? No, I think it's good. I like it. Um, but I'm just saying you know I'm trying to I'm trying to integrate it into into the way I think about the leaks because Jacobi was jealous Baseball is it yeah Jacobi was jealous. We need to have a Jacobi is jealous segment because we know we're on to something if Jacobi's jealous. Absolutely. Yeah Baseball is a GM's leak the most important guy in the building is a general manager He's got to acquire the best assets for the lowest price or just put it all together Draft the best prospects, etc The NFL has usually been a coach's league most important guys the head coach Yes, for sure, but the giants had Jackson Dart and they lost almost every game now they have John Harbaugh And it just feels already completely different. They'll at least be 500 and people always thought of the NBA as a stars league
If you don't have a guy who's at least in the conversation for best player in the game good luck winning a championship Yes, is it still that way or are you saying something's fundamentally changed because Well because it might be that it's a team president league now But according to your logic right because the team president you're still going to have to find the star But he might be able to find the right star who's maybe undervalued somewhere else and build around him Install the right coach. I think it's a proof is in the pudding When you look at team presidents And you look at really good coaches And you look at star players you see success. Yeah, I don't have to even name a team. They're all out there But again When you when you are star heavy you can be star heavy As long as being star heavy comes with structure You got to understand something about being a star A star can come with two different types of mentalities A me mentality or we mentality
If a star comes with a me mentality, you cannot win with that person It don't matter and I don't care what what gift wrapping paper you wrap it in and what bow you put on it It's still a bad gift. It does not matter If a star or stars come with structure Different dynamic going back to the Miami Heat team And structure They did when that when it was Bosch when it was Wade when it was LJ and and and obviously you added guys like Shane baddie you added guys like Ray Allen You had guys like Chalmers You don't is But they had structure right so you saw it on the floor every night That it the younger you go with this right the younger your stars are quite naturally The you lack experience Right naturally because you just spurs right now. It's just part of it So now if you have a young star study group
You really have to lean in on Because it's if you're not going to be able to lean in on the experience Then you have to lean in on structure character IQ Right How great of a teammate are you? culture Because that matters because normally when you're young you haven't gotten paid yet You you haven't made as many all star teams you wanted to make Maybe you had dreams of getting a signature shoe There's a lot of me things within being a young team So if you can fight against that That's scary you want to do an Oscars reaction real quick which I didn't watch by the way Sure, I did you watch the Oscars. Yes, I did The only person I know actually sits through the Oscars Well, I didn't sit all the way through but I watched enough of it to see Michael B Jordan yeah, how great is it he could win anything he's in Yeah, he's been he's been actually the first thing he's ever from hard. I you know, I was with him last night and I said listen
I gave him a big hug because I thought Damn, I felt like you know, I mean I grew up watching him. Yeah, Michael B Jordan from hardball When he had the scene where he was telling Keanu Reeves, he just want to I just want to play man and and Keanu couldn't necessarily Commit to it and he had to jump to gate to Michael in the wire The duo of him and Ryan Kugler starting with few fruitville station all the way to Panther to to creed To this I was in a scene. I was in a couple things with And it was just a great night and all the awards. I mean sinners won I didn't see What from one matter after another after another episode was sinners was quite good. That was fantastic Let me let me tell you something. This is what I don't like about the Academy Awards. Mm-hmm number one I remember seeing once a show that was reacting to the media's reaction to the
To the Oscar winners. It was like on e-network or something back in the day And I thought to myself what a racket Because film is there's a medium right so it's a form of media You can say it's an art form too, but it's form of media and they give an award to themselves And then the media reacts to an award that the media gives itself And then you have a show that's analyzing the reaction of the media To an award that the media gives itself. It's like it's all this content created out of whole cloth Right like it's they're just inventing it so it's like genius in a way But what bothers me about the Academy Awards is the he for it's totally subjective And the people deciding aren't smart enough to make these decisions Well, I like it just like MV he's the look I'll give you an example rich you ever see the nutty professor to the clumps. Yes, okay Why wouldn't Eddie Murphy win the Academy Award that I cannot say by the way he has a scene Eddie Murphy has a scene About where he's playing the father and the mother
And they're discussing like his sexual dysfunction the father sexual dysfunction And it's such a real scene between two characters There's so much like humanity and everything in it and connection and feeling in it That he should have won best actor best actress best supporting actor and best supporting actress because he played so many characters He was great So but they he would never get an award for that You know why because the people who vote are so insecure because they're not smart enough to know actually who to vote for They don't have the capacity for it that they would never vote for Eddie Murphy because they would think that the way other people would see them You know, they they wouldn't be taken seriously he actually talked about down this doc I think it was something he said during his I mean, I can't say during his heyday because it's only it seemed like since I've been boring. He's only had a hey Yeah, that's right. Every day is that every day was hey, so I don't know but but it was something he said but I agree with you
Again, I watched it was some really good movies. I watched one battle after another in Tiana Was a good and yeah, and yes, it was great. Sean Penn won best supporting actor. He was phenomenal in that Noah bomb back had a movie out to see our nose was nominated I wanted to go see that and I missed it in the theater. I'll order it great director But Frankenstein won some stuff think best costume was that the bride of Frankenstein. I think I saw an ad for it What was it Frank? No, it was Frankenstein was regular Frank pop, you know Dragon okay But see so it takes centers centers was It was it was a fun vampire flick, but it also had deeper meaning it was deep You know about about exploitation and you know of violence against black people and how black culture It was a lot of react to it and and form their own way of resisting it, but I think about a movie like Way back in the day die hard die hard the year that came out looked it up before the show
I was curious because of course it would never be nominated because again the people are not smart enough and too insecure Who vote on this stuff to know actually what the best film is the rain man one best picture rain man's a really good picture Rain man was incredible. It was not as good as die hard Not I know they're different genres, but well, it's hard to say it's perfect movie shot for shot Rich I should as one better after another. I should have minored in film I took enough film class in college, right If you said apply the eight elements of classics and you could teach a film class using nothing but die hard It is perfect beginning to end But of course, and it's a better movie object like if you any by any measure a better movie than rain man Which was excellent one gets the academy award one's not nominated because it's the thing I'm talking about There's because people would feel like they be looked at a certain way not taken seriously if they gave it to an action movie You know right so anyway the upshot is I don't watch the academy awards. That's listen is is It's definitely something that you have to want to be into yeah
But we live in L.A. No and everyone seems to be into it. Yeah, I mean dang went to bristle farm Just a he couldn't even find a tortilla chip in salsa. Yeah academy award me He definitely not no he he got me without absolutely, but not he didn't watch it, but guess what get me with a notch You also couldn't get no chips and saucy either because everyone who was watching it But all the chips and salsa out of the damn rest you know grocery store me asking this when you were in Cleveland before you got to L.A. Were you watching the academy awards sometimes? Yeah, I was watching up until they gave the academy award When I was a kid up until they gave it to Dancing dances with wolves over goodfellas and I was out but but see listen there's There is a degree a degree of difficulty. Yeah point that you gave and I listen I understand it We were going for the obvious I get it. I would have voted for good fellas too, but the point is Michael B Jordan Makes you there's two goats named Michael Jordan now. Yeah, Michael B Jordan's great
He's never been less than great in anything. I've ever seen him but he did join the league class just very few guys That have an Oscar that look like Michael B Jordan. Right. It's Denzel Let me see if I can name him Michael B now Denzel Jamie Sydney Yeah, and the heat of the night did he win the academy award for swittaker for swittaker Will Smith will Smith won an academy award. Yes What do you win an academy award for you? I mean, that's some elite that's some elite company. It is like to go from hardball to To that that that's pretty strong, but it was it was it was good last night. I thought this I thought was some really cool speeches and and Conan O'Brien was a good it's good. Yeah, what do you like to get to emails? We have to emails are ready. Wow. Oh, yeah, we breeze through that breeze through it, man. Yeah. We're over and out. Let's do it. We're an overtime Hello, Max and Rich. I'm golly all the way from Morocco. I love the show Always been a max fan, but this show may be discovering like rich more and more
I'm a maths major aspiring to be a sports journalist. I have two totally different questions One is more for rich, I guess the finances of sports First week of NFL free agency numbers keep going up every year rich says That he's for the players, but do you all see a tipping point where the money salaries are just going to plateau? Doesn't that have to do with really the size of the content TV contracts mostly? I hope not because I won't be able to tip when I go to restaurants All right, too, I think I'm one of the few fans who does not like the goat debates I watch a lot of sports. I love sports history I think there were so many different rules changes in play tendencies styles The only correct debate is who the goat of each era any intra-era can enter error comparison is flawed in a logical what do you all think? I listen I agree. I hate to go to debates. I love to go to this I mean look make make a hard choice. Stop copying out everybody. No, I mean listen There's there's goats in each sports there's goats in each era of each sport You know, it's like and here's what I will say
You have all these people saying who isn't the goat right and you have all these Players critiquing who's who's not the goat they're giving them this who the goat I want to come up with something you should not be able to say Who's the goat or who isn't the goat if you're not in goat contention? I hate that because frequently That way they'll end this is not going to come from the participant. You just like to debate don't max Yeah, that's probably true, but also I like the it captures one's imagination because when you have Two all-time grates and you're it forces you to do hard thinking and it's interesting in terms of comparative analysis To say actually who do you think is better and what's your criteria? How did you apply it as a consistent who has the best case etc? I love that stuff Okay, so who's your goat in what sport basketball mj Okay, and I just want to and football you have to give it to Tom Brady. I do it reluctantly some a giants fan
um In in baseball it's Babe Ruth. It's not that one's not difficult But to but to go back and answer Boxing sugary raven to go back to answer the other guy's question. I think I think live events is something that um is going to continue to grow. Yeah, I think we're getting back into the live event space But the finances of things is always challenging obviously these contracts are Are growing in a very rapid pace the TV deal is done so we have that but We may add more teams. So I don't I think anytime you get to a place where You're starting to see Hell we could be in a place where we see one year 100 million dollar deal Maybe eventually we'll get there is inflation if you get there and then just like anything else you always adjust but Long as it's not a work stoppage. I'm okay. We can figure the rest out. Alec from Los Angeles Hey max and rich i'm sure it's safe to say that Tim Duncan and Dirk Navitsky are the two best power forwards of all
Who'd you rather have on your team if you're in the NBA finals and why I Navitsky was great. I think Duncan is clearly the greatest power forward of all time I'm gonna say Duncan because of the ability to play both sides of the ball Yeah, I mean Navitsky in the modern game And he had the modern but dirk's my man though But I think I think dirk was even say Tim. Yeah, like dirk is usually not put in the top 10 players of all time And Duncan is frequently put in the top 10 players of all time any position Yeah, and dirk was really good, but I was also a power forward. Duncan was both. He was a five four and a five four and a five hundred A really good four and a five. Yeah, if you wanted to say pure power forwards pure fours Maybe maybe it is dirk pure fours who else there's ad there's dirk there's kg And kd is a three ain't that putting Lebron to four Lebron's a three or a one or whatever or two or four or five. Yeah Yeah, yeah, you could argue if you take Duncan and say he's not a pure four. He's a four five. You could argue dirk
Yeah, but I'm taking two. Yeah All right, it's time to go Okay, we have another good one. We'll we'll get to that another. Yeah, Wednesday Special guests. Oh, are we ready to announce a special guest yet or no? I don't think so. I think you let it be a surprise surprise special guest Just tune in. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I think you need to prep. Please prep. You don't like to prep I'm saying mr. linear. Can I tell you something? This is called accusation in a mirror This is actually a horrible Propaganda strategy What you do is there's there's a political party in the United States right now That I don't meant I won't mention but it rhymes with Republicans Who who accused the other side of the exact thing that they're doing if you want to know So they say every accusation is a confession. So you say I don't prep that's that's accusation in the mirror Okay, that's that's called well. We'll see Wednesday. We'll see who's the more prepped on Wednesday
And I'm not talking about your clothes. So don't come in here with three college shirts on And you're gonna be studying Well, I can't even say I'm gonna slip. I wouldn't get it away. Yeah, I almost gave it away. Yeah, please. Yeah All right, we'll see you on Wednesday. Yeah game over at Spotify dot com Yeah, oh, so we reversed it now my my wiring is all crossed That's because you're not pressed game over with max calorie rich Paul game over at Spotify dot com. We read the emails You want to ask them to subscribe now politely. Please subscribe. Yeah, yeah, and continue to send the emails. Yeah And you know what we're starting to really Turn this thing around max you've been doing a really good job prepping your flowers. Oh, thank you Thank you for I appreciate it for you know. Yes So good. All right. We gotta go in the right direction. Yeah. Yeah, I'm more like I haven't been asleep. Yeah, you need you need to get some I'm going right to the office you keep you You got to blow it a bit early tonight. I show you how to do this son. Let's see. I see that. Yeah
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