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Fredericka Mandelbaum (Marm or Ma, if you're nasty) was the powerful ruler of a criminal empire. Based on pickpocketing, theft, bank robbery, and forgery, her organization raked it in at the end of the 1800s in New York City and beyond. Out of reach from the law thanks to payoffs and complicity, Mandelbaum got away with her crimes, even when the Pinkertons got involved.
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Zaren. Elizabeth. How are you?
Doing pretty darn good.
Oh, our ooo.
I be good.
Listen, you know it's ridiculous.
I do. Oh, nice.
Spacing something you told me about.
Oh, okay.
You were telling me the other day about George Jones.
Yeah. And his last wife, Nancy Sepulvato.
Yes.
Got me curious, right?
I went looking into their relationship because there's a well-tolled tale.
And they were married on March 4, 1983, which I think you may have touched upon.
But which is right around now.
So we're just looking at an anniversary for them.
Sure.
Congratulations to the couple.
But the one thing I thought was really interesting.
Because at this point, George is trying to be clean and sober.
Do you know where they celebrated?
Where the bride and groom went and to toast their nuptials?
I do not.
I didn't think this might have come up.
They went to the local Burger King following the wedding ceremony.
Oh, man.
Did he get one of those paper crowns?
That's what I wanted.
Oh, George Jones in the Burger King crown.
It's 1983.
So there's still selling them.
They each wore one.
Right.
You know they wore one.
They go, baby, past the kitchen from a phrase.
And I'm going to toast this wapper to you.
Burger King.
Burger King.
Look at Burger King reception.
That's what the reception was.
That's beautiful.
I just, yeah.
You know, there you go.
They wanted to have it their way.
Really.
Ridiculous, huh?
That's amazing.
I did not know that.
Do you want to know what else is ridiculous?
Please.
Crime school.
This is Ridiculous Crime.
It's a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons.
It's always 99% murder free and 100% ridiculous.
I see.
Damn right.
I know I am.
Do you remember a while back when we met up with the fellas from Ridiculous History?
Oh, yeah.
Ben and Noel had it.
Ben and all to play a few games of 20 questions.
Oh, yeah.
That was fun.
Two crossover episodes of Ridiculous Chaos.
We had to guess historical figures who pulled a flex or something like that.
Yeah, historical.
Yeah.
Because I'm a total jerk.
I had everyone guessing about dogs, bummer and Lazarus, Emperor Norton's pups.
CIA operative Ben Bolin, he had us guessing about a certain historical crime.
Uh-huh.
And because he believes in women's lib, he picked a lady crime.
Good on him.
Yeah.
And neither of us had ever heard of her at the time you and I, because we're poorly educated.
Totally.
I can barely read.
So I, I just fake it.
Yeah.
Fake it so you make it.
I never learned my numbers.
Sometimes it is hum to myself when I'm reading like, oh, like, oh, he's reading.
You can tell he's making noises.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Then they're like, that looks like someone reading.
Yeah.
That's what I always think.
So I figured after all this time, I should investigate this fine woman and tell you about her.
Ooh.
Yeah.
You did a deep dive.
I did a deep dive.
Let's learn about Frederica Mandelbaum.
Freddie, step on down.
AK Ma or Marm Mandelbaum.
Marm Mandelbaum.
Yeah.
So now I mentioned her on my own a little while back when I was telling you about the criminal
Adam Worth.
Okay.
He worked with Marm or Ma Mandelbaum.
She's the one who took him from petty crimes to bank robbery and he's the guy that went
on to steal Gainesboro's portrait of Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire.
Ah, right.
So he was a real one and he learned from the realist of what?
The realist of real.
Yeah.
Mandelbaum was called the Queen of the Fences.
And she had a career that lasted more than 30 years.
She was a force to be reckoned with.
But she's the Queen.
Yeah.
So she was about six feet tall.
Oh, wow.
Oh, yeah.
Statue-esque woman.
Big hefty gal.
Round apple cheeks.
She had huge bushy eyebrows.
Oh, heck yeah.
She took up space and did not give a damn at it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
So as you know, newspaper folks back in the 1800s were unkind.
Yo, God, were they?
So are modern, right early types?
Yes, still holding true to the traditions.
Marguerite Fox wrote a book called The Talented Mrs. Mandelbaum
that came out in 2024.
Great book.
In it, she describes Ma as looking like, quote,
the product of a congenial liaison between a dumpling
and a mountain.
Whoa.
And I find that totally unnecessary.
Totally.
I don't even find it that creative.
No.
So Ms. Fox.
So that I got a picture of dumpling and a mountain getting busy.
Marguerite, I could easily pull pictures of you and go at it.
But I am a lady.
We don't do the roast.
And I'll pretend I'm a gentleman.
Anyway, Ma.
So Frederica Henriette Auguste Weissner was born on March 28th, 1825,
in Kassel, a city in what is now central Germany.
Yeah, totally Kassel German.
So she was one of seven children born to Samuel Abraham Weissner
and his wife Rahel.
In 1848, she married Wolf, Israel Mandelbaum.
Wolf Mandelbaum.
Wolf Mandelbaum.
He was a traveling peddler.
He was a little bit older.
His name was Wolf.
So he was a sexy bad boy of rock and roll.
Of course.
He rode a horse-drawn motorcycle.
Kind of like how the Amish have horse-drawn helicopters.
So Wolf, Wolf, married Frederica.
I'm sorry.
I'm still having fun with horse-drawn motorcyclists.
Right?
Yeah.
Like I can do all the sound effects for it.
And then I'm just going to pretend like I'm reading.
Wolf.
That's a bad spot to be beyond two horses.
All low.
Although, but yeah, do you think he had like the,
what are they called, the ape hangers?
Oh, yeah, ape hangers on the bars.
Do you think he had that?
That would be amazing.
Like a sled in a real sled.
Yeah, I like rains going to the ape hangers.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the like, on the ends of the handlebars,
the ribbons in bright colors.
Like a kid's bike?
Sparkly.
Yeah.
White, white, handlebars, grips.
Anyway.
OK, so Wolf married Frederica.
Then he moved to the US in search of a better life.
With her?
No, by himself.
Oh, wow.
But that move.
But he made sure to put her in the family way first.
OK, so he was an anchor wolf.
Yes.
So well, they should have had the anchor baby.
No, he went first as the anchor.
I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, he kind of flipped it.
So two years after he took off in 1850,
she and their daughter joined Wolf in New York City.
OK.
And they settled in Manhattan's Lower East Side
in the German immigrant neighborhood,
known as, this is a weird one, Little Germany.
Oh, did not see that coming.
Yeah, you can say that in German, but like,
I don't do that kind of thing.
Oh, you don't say Little Germany?
I know.
It's the Little Germany.
That's why I say it in German.
It's Lina Deutschland.
It is.
Lina Deutschland.
OK.
But I didn't want to mess it up.
Look at me having German friends for parents.
Exactly.
By friends having German parents.
So this neighborhood was like super high density.
OK.
Jam packed with new immigrants.
Like, tenement housing.
Oh, yeah.
They had full dreams, empty pocketbooks.
The conditions were terrible.
Yes, I'm imagine.
Yeah, so the buildings weren't maintained in the least,
totally falling apart.
There's like no lighting.
You're hearing your neighbor's coughing.
100%.
Some of the windows didn't open.
There's like no cross ventilation.
Oh, that's bad.
A lot of times, they'd have like more than 20 families
shoved into one single small building.
So this is like why we have health departments now.
Yes, OK.
Yes, no indoor plumbing.
Hmm.
Yeah, you go down to the street, pump water into a bucket,
carry it back up the stairs, and the toilets
were smelly outhouses in the back alley.
Oh, yeah.
So a bunch of people share in one.
And there's also just horse droppings all over the street.
Oh, yeah.
So it's smelly in the front and the back.
Honey, it is poop city.
I don't think people would get how much poop there was.
No, there's so much poop.
It's just like 120 years ago.
So much poop.
People are throwing out windows.
They were eating big meals.
Oh, yeah, big sloppy meals.
A lot of meat, a lot of cheese.
Reasy meals.
All right, that's enough.
I'm getting you all.
Morgan meats, like liver.
Oh, god.
Orgas sausages.
Yeah, oh.
Yeah.
Buddy, I'm glad I don't have a time.
I'm glad it's not close to lunchtime.
So wolf, he stayed on the same career path in the states
as he had been doing back in Germany.
Okay.
Peddler.
Peddler, right?
So he went around selling things, little bits and bobs.
Now, you dropped the blanket.
You got all the stuff.
Yeah, a little card, all with a bell or something, I don't know.
And so it was pretty widely known that peddlers often worked on the wrong side of the law.
Well, they got to get the stuff somewhere, Elizabeth.
Yeah, but there was wolf selling crap on the up and up.
He's just like, oh, he's legit.
He's just got to deal.
He's got this crap.
So pretty.
He's like, I'm in $0.99 store.
That's exactly.
Pretty soon.
They need money.
So for Drika starts peddling.
She had to work.
They're starving.
So she goes door to door in the lower east side selling lace.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
You can get a good pretty penny for that.
Pretty soon.
They had four kids, but not four times the income.
Oh, it's quite the draw.
Yeah.
So for Drika, she realizes like, okay, I am not making enough money selling lace door
to door.
And I don't have a lot of opportunities for advancement.
Because like, there are only certain jobs that a working class woman could have in
those.
Oh, yeah, washer woman.
Yeah, laundry.
And that's like back breaking work.
Terrible.
Crowded field.
I'd be chemical.
A lot of people are doing it.
She could be a maid, but they made almost nothing.
And they usually didn't have four kids.
Yeah.
Usually as younger women who are single so they can be beholden to that family.
Right.
And then have families with their own to go home and feed.
You could be a prostitute, but she was a married woman.
She didn't want to do that.
It was just a bridge too far.
So she kept peddling.
But she looked around and she saw that some of the people were peddling ill gotten goods
and she had no problem with that.
Hey, right there with you, sister.
So she had this great personality.
People loved her and she made connections.
So she began her criminal career by buying and then reselling stuff that had been scavenged
or stolen.
So you know, finders keepers.
Yeah, street thieves known as groaners and files.
Oh, yeah, brought her stuff to her push cart.
So groaners were thieves who went to revivals and charity sermons.
Yes.
And they'd rob the congregation of their watches and purses and like switch out bad hats.
Like they had a crappy hat and they'd see a nice one.
Swap them out.
Have a big bag.
Put a person in it.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
They stole prayer books.
Mm-hmm.
How much anything that's not nailed down?
It's like the lowest behavior.
Totally.
Feeling at a church event.
At a church event.
Bottom of the barrel.
Those files were basically pick pockets.
They worked with someone called a bulker and the bulker would bump into or like stop the
mark.
The file would slip in, steal whatever valuable they could.
Transfer to someone walking the other direction.
Right.
So these folks would come to Ma with the stuff that they stole and she'd buy it off
from cheap and then flip it.
And during this early period, she apprenticed herself to this really well-known fence named
General Abe Greenfall.
He was known as perhaps the best pick pocket in the United States.
Really?
Yeah.
So she trained with the best.
That's why he was the general.
Yeah.
He was born in what is now Poland in 1822.
He told everyone who's German though.
He led this syndicate.
Was he an American area that might have been the Prussian Empire?
Yeah.
Okay.
So he led a syndicate of Jewish pick pockets who worked nationwide.
They did the bulk and file thing, jostling into victims in crowded places like train stations.
The gang that he ran with included most of his family, the family tradition gang family,
whatever.
So in an article about his passing, the New York Times wrote the quote, all the Greenthal
family have turned out to be criminals.
The women being shoplifters and the men pick pockets.
You know, there's a place for everybody's errands.
Yeah.
You know, we've got two hands.
Why not use them?
Put them to work, kids.
The general wasn't just an expert pick pocket.
He was also a first class fence.
And it was under his guidance that Ma learned how to evaluate luxury merchandise and she
learned all the details to look for, like the feel of the fabrics, the weight and touch
of metals and gems, the quality, manufacturing and craftsmanship that, you know, makes these
things so valuable.
You stick saying in there.
Yeah.
And she learned how to move stolen goods, turn a tidy profit.
And she learned to keep the majority of the profit for herself.
She's getting good.
Smart.
Into the Civil War 1865, she had tucked enough money away and had enough to open a legitimate
looking dry goods store, just a front.
It gave her cover in like assessing luxury textiles and materials, things like silk, lace,
cashmere and seal skin, which is called pin seal when it's made into leather, which
bums me all the way out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it was, but it was a, you know, I'm sure it was a nice fabric.
It was a luxury material, seal skin and pin seal.
Yeah.
That's a lot of like oil.
Yeah.
So Mandelbaum suppliers were young thieves.
They stole stuff from warehouses, delivery wagons, they go down to the docks.
Mm-hmm.
All the stuff that fell off a truck.
Yeah.
Basically, she bought their stolen goods at this fraction of a wholesale value.
So let's say 10%.
All right.
So they got it for free.
So anything they make is going to make them happy.
So like, let's suppose the wholesale value is $100.
So they get 10 bucks.
Okay.
So they resell the stuff to her customers.
And these were people like tailors or just housewives looking for a deal.
She'd charge them more, but still way under the full wholesale value.
Yeah.
Market price is $100.
For wholesale.
I'd forget even retail value.
Wow.
So if these folks, they would have had to pay $100 wholesale, she charges them like 60.
Okay.
So she's turning a $50 profit out of basically nothing.
Yeah.
The economy was changing in the US at the time.
You know, we've got growing industrialization.
Cities are growing with like both immigrants and those coming in from the country looking
for jobs.
Yeah.
As a factor, they're growing.
Yeah.
So despite growing wealth inequality as well, there's a growing middle class.
And they weren't living by such razor margins and they wanted nice things too.
Sure.
So luxury items like cashmere shawls could pull in incredible prices and cost so much.
According to Margulette Fox, quote, a single cashmere shawl from that time would sell for
the equivalent of $45,000 in today's dollars.
I'm sorry.
I need to pick my job back up off the floor.
45 grand.
45,000 dollars for a piece of clothing that is like flimsy at best.
Cashmere shawl.
They're not flimsy.
A shawl?
You know, I have like a fur coat.
You know, I have a cashmere problem.
Yeah.
I'm wearing a cashmere sweater.
I'm sorry.
No, you do it.
But I mean, that's like a light thing.
It's like lace is light.
It's also expensive.
I'm not suggesting.
But I mean, that's not a lot of material.
No, I love a good cashmere shawl.
Totally.
Like a scarf so huge as to engulf oneself.
I would not, however, in a million years, pay $45,000.
I don't think I'd pay $4,500 for a shawl.
What would middle class Elizabeth do back then?
Where would you place the cap on how much you'd pay for a really nice, like, this is my favorite
shawl?
Well, it depends on the quality of the cashmere.
It's nice.
Imagine it's really nice.
I need cashmere.
I get that.
I get that.
So I have to really think about this.
My mandalbomb was like an illegal version of quince, like a affordable cashmere.
I would totally be hanging around her store.
I know you would.
Be like to have the boyfriend cardigan.
You would have one of those tickets for the punching at 10th time here.
I mean, I think like if you get, I'd look at like $300 would be like a low and a cashmere
shawl.
Sure.
So if I really like this was a nice like couple grand, I don't, I personally wouldn't
pay that.
A grand.
Maybe.
So that was a two.
I would have $300 afterwards.
I'd be like, oh my god.
What have I done?
You spilled ice coffee out of the first time.
Yeah, there's no way I'd pay $1,000 for it, you know, but that'd be a nice, nice, nice
one.
Sure.
I would assume.
So anyway, of course, like if you're looking at $45,000, the equivalent, that's like today
a nice use truck.
And Ma's like, you got 50 bucks.
Yeah.
Like a brand new Chinese EV.
Yes.
Exactly.
And I say this, as I am currently wearing a cashmere sweater, yes, I know.
I don't even know how much that would cost me that.
I know that too.
That's why I wasn't even going to ask.
In those days, it didn't cost me $45,000.
So Ma, she exploited the gap between rising demand and the availability of stolen merch.
Yeah.
And she made an obscene amount of money.
Apparently.
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Zaren.
Oh, Lizbeth.
Welcome back.
Hey, have a cashmere up.
Mom, I just bought a $60,000 pair of socks.
They're really nice.
Mom, Mandelball.
She's making it work.
So she has moved from peddling is 100% focused on her growing criminal empire.
She also benefited from the broader political and economic climate of New York City at the
time.
Corruption was everywhere.
I mean, you had Tammany Hall, and it was just, it was a big mess.
And also, like, ostentatious, like, flourishes of wealth are starting to become the fashion
of the day.
We're not quite to like, you know, the, whatever the, whatever you want to call it,
1890s.
There's lots of different nicknames, but like, you know, the gilded age will say,
but we're not on our way.
We're trying to send the trends that people want to then live up to.
But the thing is, it's like, it, it, that spark for what, you know, someone called the
gilded age of, you know, if you have any kind of show of wealth, you're welcomed in.
There's no questions asked.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So I mean, she fits right in with that.
So and we're, we're transitioning from an agrarian economy to like this capitalist
urban commerce.
She built her fortune by, you know, taking things out of legitimate trade channels and, you
know, putting them on the elicit market and in a way that cops really don't usually mess
with.
There's no violence.
They're like, what can we do?
Yeah, exactly.
And then maybe they'll take a little on the side, you know, oh, there's always that.
So by, she's got 1865, she's got the modest, dry good store on Clinton Street, the lower
east side.
Oh, yeah.
So let's talk about that a little bit.
It's served as the public front for this rapidly expanding criminal operation.
There was the store front.
But then there are also like this warrant of rooms behind the shop that functioned as
headquarters for the network.
So inside the building at Clinton in Rivington, she had all of these hidden features to hide
stuff.
So it looked normal when you walk in the next room.
They were altering and like stripping, identifying marks off of stuff.
Oh, so it's not like a stock room first and then behind that, they just go right in
to the point.
Right in.
They're taking gemstones out of settings.
They're taking like hallmarks off of jewelry and silverware.
So like literally like behind the curtain, you just got jewelers working in.
They cut away manufacturers, labels and textiles.
And then there was like a trap door that led to other places, concealed passageways, this
tunnel network.
Don't be chimney.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There was a hidden parlor where she could like secretly observe transactions.
Oh, nice.
One-way glass.
There was a dormitory for when they needed to arrest.
Really?
The thieves.
Like I've been working all night, my eyes are tired.
Really tired.
She's like, you know, take five.
The upstairs was her family apartment where the kids were being raised.
This is all all there.
Her primary business became fencing stolen property.
So she really wasn't out there doing anything smart criminals who stole items, jewelry, furniture,
sold to her.
She turned it around.
I assume they're coming to the back.
Yes.
And they're going here.
Here's what I got.
Somebody comes outside and looks.
Exactly.
Back entrance and all that stuff.
She really, like she preferred stuff like silk and diamonds.
They could be purchased cheaply resold at huge profits.
Yeah.
Hard to prove where they came from.
Exactly.
She was willing to handle almost anything though.
There's this story that goes that after the great Chicago fire, thieves brought her a herd
of goats that they stole during the chaos.
And she was like, yeah, she's like, yeah, I'll take them.
How they got the goats from Chicago to New York?
I cannot say.
I'm going to assume a train.
Yes.
Who knows?
So she sought out experienced criminals rather than like street brawlers or petty scavengers.
A lot of the women that she employed, specialized in shoplifting from department stores.
Which we saw that was 40 elephants.
Yeah, 40 elephants.
Also, I was imagining some upscale maids who were like, you know, when they know they're
going to leave their employer, they just clean out the.
She taught these women like how to move through the department stores without attracting
any attention.
There's this police inspector Thomas Burns.
He wrote a book about the criminals at the time and he recorded all of her known associates
in this 1886 book.
There was Mike Kurtz and he was one of the co-founders of the Dutch mob during the 1870s.
He went to prison for silkseft and then while he was inside, he found out that eating soap
could make you sick.
He had to go to prison to find that out.
Yeah.
So he ate soap.
And he got sick.
And he lost weight.
He was a mess.
Prison doctors are like, I don't know.
We don't know what's wrong with him.
Sure.
We don't know what to do.
I think I'm just going to diagnose him as dying.
And so he got a pardon and then he stopped eating soap and he was fine.
So that was his way up, right?
You've been having to tell people why you inside.
I was pushing silk.
But you're so kidding.
What are you doing now?
I'm eating soap.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
So then you had Mary Holbrook.
She was an Irish-born pickpocket and a shoplifter.
She bounced around between Boston, Chicago, New York.
She is called the most notorious female thief in America in the late 1800s, Mary Holbrook.
She was running a brothel when she married this guy, a thief named Buck Holbrook.
And in 1869, he and his gang went to Western Illinois to rob some banks.
They got caught.
Buck and his buddies tried to tunnel their way out of jail, but they got caught again.
He did not survive a prison guard's excitability with a shotgun.
Oh, bad luck, Buck.
Yeah, bad luck, Buck shot.
Molly gave him a proper funeral and said, quote, we all know that Buck was not on the square,
but he was always a good and kind man to me.
That is the measure.
And over like a hundred people, all these thieves and like prostitutes and ruffians went
to his funeral.
Good on them.
Then Molly met and married this guy, Jimmy Hoy.
He was a pickpocket and they ran a pickpocket ring together.
Another good Irish laugh.
She found new love.
Yeah.
And this was around the time that she worked under Ma.
Then there was Sophie Levy, aka Sophie Lyons.
She was a young pickpocket, yeah, and a blackmailer.
She was regarded as one of Ma's top protégés.
Okay.
And like her scheme, like her whole thing, was that she would lure men into hotel rooms,
wait until they got undressed, and then steal their clothes and demand money to give
it back to them.
Oh, I thought you'd have like a male Confederate company and it'd be like pay up or something.
Nope.
I've got your pants.
Yeah.
I got your unni pants.
Everybody knows because your names are in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Now give me 50 bucks.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Black Lena Klein Schmidt.
Black Lena Klein Schmidt.
Yeah.
And so she like Sophie Lyons was like a close student of Ma's.
And black Lena was another German-born criminal in New York.
She's struggling to get by.
She got busted in 1880 trying to steal 108 yards of silk worth $250.
That's like 8,000 today.
Okay.
When she finally got out of jail, she skipped bail and she was like caught.
They put time on her ticket.
She moved to Hackensack, New Jersey when she's finally out.
There she posed as a wealthy widow of a South American mining tycoon.
That's brilliant.
Creative.
I thought she was going to go with that guy.
I would love it.
The widow of a boat captain who sang.
No, no.
South American mining magnate.
She copied Ma's lavish and like convivial style.
She threw these really fancy dinner parties.
She's kind of a boom-fee Valentine's.
Yes, yes.
And it was at these parties that she'd rob her guests.
And then she would go from Hackensack up to New York, sell the stuff, and then come
back with the money to throw another huge party and keep the lifestyle going.
And she got busted for that when she wound up wearing this emerald ring that she'd
stolen.
And the victim recognized it at the next party.
Yeah, you can't do that.
You can't do that.
Also, you got to have some kind of like Patsy who you can blame for when stuff goes bad.
You got to be like, oh no.
The maid.
Yeah.
This is one guy.
I don't know why he's around.
He's got to be also family.
So he knows you're not really throwing them under the bus.
You just like, you need to go cool up for a while.
Yeah, no.
She got lazy.
No.
There was this time.
And covetous, sound fun.
Tim Meditiv shop lifter.
Uh-huh.
A little known as kid glove rosy.
Was he a like a rosy?
Was she like a legitimate?
Like a little person?
No, no, no.
She was just short.
She was just a tiny one.
Just truncated.
And kid glove rosy worked with black Lena a lot.
Okay.
And kid glove rosy.
Yeah, kid glove rosy got busted on that silk heist with her.
Hikers, kids like her hand are the size of a kid's glove.
I guess.
I don't know where she would, you know, she would handle things with kid gloves.
Oh, though.
She was a gentle touch in her shoplifting.
I like it.
There was also this elderly Irish pickpocket named Old Mother Hubbard.
And her specialty was being able to get into any woman's handbag and take the coin purse
out.
Like she could just, she was incredible with that.
Well, you see literally an elderly woman.
Yeah, she's an old Irish lady.
Uh-huh.
Mom managed this really diverse group.
I mean, you think about it.
It's primarily German born Jewish immigrants.
Yeah.
But then like it was like a healthy dose of Irish and these are the people who were fully
marginalized at the time.
Oh yeah.
And living right near each other.
And so they're like, let's do this.
You might even grow up with each other's neighbors.
Exactly.
Um, so, uh, she's got this huge group and she organized them so well.
And to protect herself from prosecution, she wouldn't take stolen goods directly at
the shop.
She had them stored in various rented properties all around the city.
So despite all her criminal activities, she developed this reputation for loyalty and
reliability among all the people who worked with her and for her.
She was quick with the bail money.
Yeah.
Well, according to New York's chief of police at the time, George Walling, she was widely
regarded as scrupulously fair within the criminal world.
And her success came in large part because she had this support like saying quick with
the bail money.
She rarely betrayed anyone who worked with her.
She would do the bail.
She'd get lawyers for people.
Newspapers sometimes described her with this like aura of respect.
And she was respectable and even like philanthropic.
She sounds stirred up gangster.
I mean, like, put the old original like, you know, gangster, like, old marital, pre-reco
gangster.
Yes.
Uh, so her influence went way beyond just like simple fencing.
Uh, so like I said, there's, you know, you've got Tammady Hall going on.
Well, she cozy's up to all those politicians.
They're dirty and corrupt and criminal.
Yeah.
Cozy's up to the police department.
She knows all these officers and detectives in their arms.
Um, they, she'd have these elaborate dinners at her home and she would entertain them.
And then, you know, she would pay them off to look the other way.
Uh, she would have sometimes like for her network.
She would also throw them big, you know, parties, picnics.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure.
Donate to the policeman's retirement fund.
But even her criminal gang.
Oh.
Like her organization.
She's like, let's have a company picnic.
I love that.
Let's do it.
Um, let's live a good life.
Some people had like regular salaries with her rather than just being paid by the piece.
She's so ahead of her curve.
And that's how she got all these maternal nicknames, Marm, mother, mom, mother, bomb,
like so they called her.
So stories circulated that she even established a training school for young criminals.
Zaren, Closias.
Yes.
My eyes are closed.
I want you to picture it.
It's October of 1876.
You are a 13 year old boy sent to enroll at a local school, a school for criminals.
You walk up to the building at Clinton and Grand in New York's Lower East Side.
It's a chaotic scene on the street, vendors jostle for customers on the sidewalks and in
the gutters as horses slowly pull carts laden with goods up the street.
Shops with Hebrew lettering painted on the windows flanked a building.
As above you, up and down the street, advertised rooms for rent or cobbler services or baked
goods.
People laugh.
They argue they call to one another in Yiddish.
You are a red headed Irish kid who's a little out of his element here, but you feel alive
you feel ready.
Three blocks down at Clinton and Rivington is mom Mandelbaum's dry goods store.
You are well aware that it's a front.
You walk by and peaked in.
You've heard stories.
You are a very intelligent, very percusious kid.
You have street smarts.
You're going to go far in this world.
And to help you on your way, you're trying to get into mom's school for criminal kids.
You ring the bell and a woman in her 20s opens the door.
She asks to sent you.
You tell her old mother Huddard knows you, sent you here to get a start.
She looks you up and down and then nods and lets you in.
She passes you off to an older teen boy.
He tells you he's going to give you a tour and then you'll get started.
You follow him up a flight of creaking stairs to a wide landing.
He tells you that beginners start with pick pocketing and small thefts.
He asks if you have any experience with that.
Sure, you say I know all about it.
He eyes you suspiciously.
You stare at him and reach into your pocket.
Keeping his eye contact, you pull out a pearl-handled knife.
The boy's face goes pale.
That's my knife.
He stammer's patting at his pocket.
You hand it back to him.
Indeed it is, you say.
Then you smirk.
The boy puts the knife into his inside jacket pocket, stares at you and continues his tour.
You walk down a hall and stop in front of a room.
A woman instructs a young girl to bump into a boy as she walks by him.
She does as she's told.
Again, the teacher demands.
The children take their places and pretend once more to pass each other on the street.
We'll be teaching you the techniques of distraction and stealth, but I'm not sure you need much
teaching in that department.
He says, he tells you that the next step is more complex crimes.
You follow him down the hall to another room.
Inside a group of young boys sits on the floor and they watch an awe as an old man with
a long gray beard slowly turns the dial on a safe.
He looks up at you and smiles and goes back to his work.
Your guide tells you that you'll learn stuff like burglary, blackmail, and safe cracking.
Unless you already know how to crack a safe, he says, no, you tell him not yet, that's
why you're here.
The two of you reach another stairwell and climb to the next floor.
The boy tells you that if you show real talent, you'll be able to join Mandelbaum's organization
immediately.
He says Moss started the school six years ago, he was in the first class.
You stop at another open door.
It looks like a traditional classroom.
Inside, students sit in rows of desks, their heads down, brows furrowed in concentration,
as they practice forging a signature posted on a large paper taped to a chalkboard at the
front of the room.
A boy with ink smeared on his cheek glances up at you and then gets back to work.
Your guide tells you you're going to go see the dining area, and you start down the hall
but stop abruptly.
An enormous woman blocks your path.
She is imposing.
She is serene.
She asks you your name and you tell her.
You're honest, no alias.
She stares at you, looks you up and down.
Where are you from, she asks.
Hell's kitchen, you tell her.
No, where are your people from, she says.
She does from county cork, if that's what you're after, you tell her.
She's silent.
You can hear a clock ticking in a room down the hall.
Is your father, Sheamus Sullivan, she asks.
Why, you respond.
I think you know why I'm asking.
You go.
Does he know you're here, she asks.
You tell her no.
She stares some more.
The clock keeps ticking.
Get out, she tells you in the harshest tone.
Get out now.
You turn and race down the stairs two at a time.
You make it to the front door and fling yourself out onto the street.
The sunshine blinds you momentarily.
You run down Clinton's bobbing and leaving between people, crossing Broadway until you reach
South Street, right by period 36.
You slam into a police officer, a detective.
He looks down at you.
You look up at him.
She's onto us, da, you say.
Your father looks to the sky and then turns and spits on the ground.
He sighs.
We gave it a shot, he says.
Meanwhile, back at the school, Ma Mandelbaum is quickly closing up shop, kicking her pupils
out into the street as if this school never existed in the first place.
Yes.
I want to go to crime school for kids.
So there it is.
I love that Sheamus Sullivan was a cop.
Yes.
So there's reason to believe it didn't actually exist in the first place.
So for years, decades, more than a century, it was understood that Ma ran a school for
young criminals at Clinton and Grant in the Lower East Side.
But it made out of been a literal school.
Well, no.
And then she shut it down.
And then it was also widely understood that she shut it down when she discovered that
the son of a cop had enrolled.
Oh.
And so I didn't make that part out.
Yeah.
But then that Marguelite Fox wrote in her book that her research determined it was an
urban legend.
That's a buzzkill.
And like Foxmolder, I want to believe.
I'm right there with you and Fox.
And also, it seems like that'd be something that she would do.
It totally does.
It fits the pattern.
And then like a cop sends his kid in to like infiltrate.
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Mom, Mandelbaum.
Hey, enjoy my pocket lint.
I saw you dry it and what you did.
I know.
Lint.
I got lint.
I'm not very good.
Ma.
Yes.
Ruler of a criminal empire.
The Queen.
The Empress.
As her power increased, she expanded into financing large-scale criminal ventures.
I was wondering.
Yes, stuff like bank robberies, really elaborate burglaries.
One of her most notable crimes that was connected to her whole network happened in 1869 when
thieves broke into New York City's ocean national bank and stole around $800,000.
Adam Worth was in on that one, who talked about that.
The robbery took months of prep.
Remember, a shell company rented office space beneath the bank.
They cut through that ceiling using specially designed tools.
At the time, it was considered the largest bank burglary in American history.
For about three decades, her organization operated with just freedom.
Three decades.
They just did whatever.
Yeah.
Isn't that incredible?
Wow.
So law enforcement officials, they knew at the time that this goes all across the country.
She wasn't just in New York.
Yeah.
Does she even have Chicago connections straight up?
If a major silk robbery happened in any other city, and the criminals were associated with
her organization, she would be the first right of first refusal for that sale.
That was how it went.
And she also, but she had this public image of this respectable member of the community.
She gave tons of money.
She donated to her synagogue.
She was friendly with her neighbors.
She came across, like, if you weren't aware, just as this really rich, respectable woman.
I mean, was she, did she have like a pretend husband or any?
To wolf.
Yeah, but he was older.
So I don't know if he's still alive.
Yeah.
And he didn't have to keep peddlers.
For sure.
He's just like being the dignified man too.
Exactly.
She's really got a good thing.
Oh, yeah.
And behind this facade, you know, she's organizing thefts and burglaries and luxury merchandise
all across the United States.
She had this lavish lifestyle.
She wore really elaborate silk dresses and a seal skin cape and she wore a ton of jewelry.
There were some that say that she wore like basically a million dollars like in modern
dollars.
It's worth of jewelry around just every day, like very Elizabeth Taylor.
Wow.
And you don't know if he's going to rob her, so it's like you can flex like that.
Exactly.
You won't even dare.
As her business expanded, she bought warehouses in order to store all the stolen goods.
And I'm sure that like, you know, I know that she's primarily in nonviolent crimes, but
I bet she knows some hitters.
Oh, yeah.
She has to.
She has to.
Yeah.
Because all of the, like, her coterie of bad men, they're on the fringes and they're connected
to other.
Like violent groups.
Yeah.
My brother does that.
I like to do my work.
Exactly.
So in the mid 1880s, an estimated $10 million worth of luxury merchandise had been handled
through her lower east side shop.
Damn.
Get it, mom.
It was one of the central hubs of organized crime in the city.
And so her long run of success, though, finally came to an end in 1884.
This newly appointed district attorney of New York City, Peter Olney, he decided to
go after her.
Hers specifically, not just like criminals like her, but hers specifically, but because
local police, like everyone kind of knew they'd been compromised.
Yeah, they're dirty.
Right.
Yeah.
So Olney hired the Pinkerton National Detective Agency to conduct a sting operation.
And there was this one Pinkerton agent, Gustav Frank.
He infiltrated the network.
He posed as a criminal named Stein.
And he exploited her tendency to help thieves out, particularly those of German Jewish background
like she was.
And that's how he got into like the inner circle.
He's warmed his way in.
So on the morning of July 22nd, 1884, Frank and three other Pinkerton's rated the shop.
And they uncovered a ton of stolen property up in there.
It's all that's in there.
Like jewelry, watches, silverware, loose diamonds, all sorts of stuff, microwaves, color
TVs, GPS systems, air purifiers, gravel toaster ovens, you know, or not, I don't know.
So basically it was just like a smoking gun collection.
Completely.
Completely.
They found all the hidden rooms.
Antique furniture, trunks filled with cashmere shawls, lace curtains, bolts of silk.
They had melted down stolen jewelry into just gold bars.
Oh, yeah.
And so they found those.
They went into her bedroom and they found the melting pots and the scales used to do
all this stuff when they arrested her.
So the detectives arrest her and they try and haul her away.
And ones like, you know what?
Just admit defeat and cooperate and she like stops and turns and looks at him and then
just socks him in the kiss or just dex him, how he is, and she six feet.
So I know she throws like a good right cross exactly.
Her son Julius, who had been involved in the operations, he got arrested alongside
him.
I always love that name, Julius.
Julius, it's a great name.
One of her daughters was married to, in some reports, married to a detective and others
to a politician.
It depends on which newspaper you read.
Why not both?
Right.
But like, she was supposed to be attached to all the family businesses well.
Okay.
And so like, this is just the press loves this.
Of course.
It's all over the place.
And so she already had prominent defense attorneys like on retainer, William F. Howe and
Abraham Hummel, and they were well known for like representing the underworld figures in
the city.
So they're mob lawyers at the back way back.
Yes.
Yes.
And they tried to undermine the credibility of Frank, the Pinkerton detective, like the Roy
Cones of the 19th century.
Yes.
Okay.
And so they're like, you know, that Pinkerton detective.
I think he actually was a criminal, like he's not a Pinkerton, you know, so they're just
making him out to, he was, he was, you know, taking the water, taking his own share of
stuff.
Bale was set at 10 grand, which was just an incredible amount then.
And that was like for five different charges that she was facing, like receiving stolen
goods, that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
So Bale gets paid.
She goes home and the Pinkertons are keeping an eye on her under total surveillance.
December 4th, 1884 though, she's scheduled to appear in court.
She vanishes.
And she used a body double to slip the Pinkertons.
Got on a train, fled to Canada and took a million dollars worth of stolen goods with
her.
I don't know about you, but I've always wanted to have caused you as a body double to
sneak to Canada.
I mean, that's, that's a girl's dream.
You're like, you're living large.
So remember that thief, Molly Holbrook, who went from mom.
She was working in all like up and down the Northeast as a pick pocket.
She got busted a bunch of times in Boston, New York.
Just about to say Boston, yeah, but either she would jump Bale or she'd get off thanks
to her fancy lawyers, how and humble, which Ma would organize for her.
But in 1884, she got arrested and got five years at the Prison on Blackwells Island.
And she begged Ma, like, please send the lawyers, send lawyers, guns, and money.
Ma was like, enough, I can't with you.
So Molly decided to turn state's evidence on Ma.
And that's one of the reasons why Ma ran off to Canada.
That's one of the reasons the DA was like, oh, I can go after this.
Oh, yeah, I can burn you.
Ma knew that they had an insider to testify against her.
So she goes off to Ontario by the following day, newspapers had traced her to Canada, like
they figured it out.
But because no extradition treaty existed between the US and Canada at that time, she could
stay there without being returned for trial.
So she didn't really want to leave New York, just like REM saying, leaving New York never
easy.
I saw the light fading out.
That's a great song, by the way, thank you.
Thank you for bringing that up.
So is she like in Toronto?
Is that like like she was in Hamilton, Ontario just outside, yeah, just outside of Toronto.
So she was forced to stay there.
And she saw this exile as kind of like a living death.
Like New York was everything for her.
But there she is, Hamilton, Ontario, she opened a business known as Ladies and Children's
Underwear Emporium.
Okay.
And Undies R.S.
Unpants.
Sure.
She's back down to the lace.
Right.
So even there, like it was rumored that she was fencing and bribing officials.
She worked behind the store counter, though, and she went to services at the local synagogue.
She kept a really close relationship with her children.
One of her sons opened a tobacconous shop right down the street.
A daughter of hers frequently traveled from New York carrying letters and packages.
And people like also kind of thought that maybe she was bringing up stolen merchandise
because she always like, Moss still had really low prices in her shop.
And the daughter always came in with a lot of luggage, but they could never prove anything.
An 1885 tragedy struck.
Her youngest daughter Annie died in New York.
She was only 18.
It was pneumonia.
So mom was like, I have to see her one last time.
She was bereft.
This was her baby.
So she snuck back to New York for the services, you think?
Yeah.
She put on a disguise and I'm really hoping for great win play.
Then she got into her old house by using one of the passages her crooks would use to get
in undetected.
She managed to view the body, pay her respects before leaving again for Canada.
And she made it back without getting arrested.
Yes.
I was so hoping that she was able to do it.
So Frederica, Marm Mandelbaum, died in Canada in 1894.
Her body was transported back to New York for burial in the same cemetery where her daughter
was laid to rest.
And even in death, she was this figure of fascination.
So the newspapers had all this wild speculation about the funeral and the burial.
Some thought that she faked her death and the coffin was just like full of rocks that
she was out living it up somewhere.
And others, like other newspaper reports talked about how like there was this huge crowd
and everyone got pick pocketed.
And so at the time of her death, she had a fortune that was estimated at around a million
dollars, which is like 37.8 million dollars today.
So there.
And what's your ridiculous takeaway?
I am so impressed with Marm Mandelbaum.
I mean, for a lot of reasons, I like her panache, like her style, like the way she does it.
But also, it's the classic thing of like, oh, you got to be like twice as good.
She's like, I got to be three times as good to be able to be on the same par because
you know, I'm an immigrant.
I'm a woman in the 19th century of America and Canada.
I mean, like I'm a Jewish woman.
I'm six feet tall and I stand out.
I mean, like everything she's like so like.
And the fact that she got to live and lived so well and took care of so many people, she
seems to be like the type of criminal that I always wanted to be around back when I
did crime, which is hard to find, you know, like people have gotten lazy about how they
do crime.
Now, they don't understand it's a community thing.
I can really want to be successful.
You've got to have a network.
You've got to have respect.
You've got to have people who owe you in a way that is actually meaningful, you know,
not just like, you know, otherwise you're going to get, they're going to turn state
evidence.
I'm talking about old school mafia and you see it as like that's when the police wouldn't
protect a community.
Yeah.
They did it.
Yeah.
If you want the old ladies to be able to go out at night.
It's going to cost you a little something, but like that's the taxes you pay basically.
Yeah.
And it's also, I mean, that just kind of has society works anyway.
I mean, like you're paying stuff already all the time for these same things.
You're just doing it to a person who's like a little bit more familiar with violence or
crime, you know, but it's like it's not that much different.
Right.
Right.
I mean, it's like, you know, it's like I'm being real anyway.
What's yours Elizabeth?
My ridiculous takeaway is that, you know, she didn't from what I understand.
She wasn't hurting anybody, you know, and I mean, it's like there are just costs of doing
business when you're dealing with luxury goods, I suppose.
And so, and I think that she helped more than she hurt, you know, she, and isn't that
what the insurance is for exactly.
And everything seems off of each other, it just keeps, she's circulating money into
the community.
But I'll tell you what I need to talk back.
That's my takeaway.
Oh.
What?
Talk back.
Oh my God.
Did you just see that?
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
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I have not laughed at this art yet.
And you have your episodes.
There was another one I can't remember what it was.
But this one was hilarious.
Somebody needs to make a movie or a short film about it.
It would be hilarious.
Things, guys.
That's a really good idea, like a documentary.
Yeah, I think they're actually art.
Yeah, I think they're.
I think there's even a documentary.
I think there's an animated version of that story that's like on YouTube or whatever.
I think you can find people I mean we've been asked to to tell that story to other people like just in general
It's it is a very much a not a known commodity, but I mean, it's like some people like this one
But there and you told it the funniest way what we did you did we did that's it for today
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