
Killer Mother Thinks Deleting Her Searches Will Save Her
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over he asked us a real okay I say yes he said do you need a ride I say yes can I pause you for a second okay when I looked at the map with you earlier you'd kind of said you stopped at checkers you were you were probably past checkers a little bit past checkers before the gas station speedway okay so actually I showed I don't know what that is it's like between it's like a vacant a vacant building right there between it kind it looks exactly like kindergarten like a brick like a brick building okay but it's literally between checkers and I know the building you're talking about yeah and it's like a little space but he didn't pull in he just pulled over did he come off with you spade drives he just pulled like we're talking about Antoine now right okay did he just pull up to the curb still blocking the lane or did he pull into the driveway he didn't want to set a driveway but he pulled over closer to
closer to more towards the sidewalk okay normally I always look back behind me anyway but that's just me but he pulled over he wrote down the passenger window okay I'd I'd already smelled the weed when he wrote down the window so I really wasn't going to get in but I was just like damn maybe I should turn around a lot now while you've just had to complex you got a long way to go um because it to me by myself it don't seem far but when I started holding him I was like I don't think I could do it yeah that's a long way to um so I put him in the passengers I put him on the passenger side in the back seat I'm local to him in close the door I got in on the passenger side I did not strap in at all uh we drove down we were driving he was asking he asked me my name I told him I was kind of rude because I touched his knee
with people like that um and then he told him his name was Antoine and then he asked me where did I need to go I said I have to drop my son off at my baby dad's house uh he kept asking will do you mess with him I'm gonna say how he said I just saw my cousin in front of a door say he was I would do you fuck with him I was like no we just coparent he just kept asking that um just so I'm clear he's asking basically if you're still in a relationship um because I know when to do just trying to get at me sure um okay what happened we were dropping down that's when he was like well what am I gonna get out of give me a ride and I'm just like shit like you offered me the ride right um and then he was like well can you set me up I'm like no like I'm not on that he said just say what he said then be clear about what it means uh it means give it all sex okay um and then I was like no like I'm not on that then he offered to give me 150 at that point I'm
like okay well I don't got no money I don't got no way to feed my child and honestly if everything would have went that way and I would have just got the money I would have took my ass back home because at that point I don't even need Jordan because I could buy my child some of you sure um so he offers you that while you're driving um okay he's dropping down we drove down we made a right and we made a right on lake and we made a left at life I get uh right away okay the first turn again and then the first parking lot because I he showed the officer showed me we looked at that in the daylight it's better for me to see um because I do have problems with my eyes okay um and I don't know if you've been out there but it's a white uh it's a white um um not a trash bimbo like the thing that covers it like the fence type of thing and it's parking
space is right there and that's when he pulled in and I remember he put a plastic bag over him over his up uh then that's when that happened yeah to be descriptive uh that's when I gave him all how long did that take do you think uh five to seven minutes uh that's when he was like that's it and I'm like yeah and he was like well can I keep saying that and I'm like nah and at that point I was just like I don't even need the ride anymore and he just got mad and that's when he just started hitting me okay and from that point on um I am seriously trying to connect the points okay from from getting from there to log the central okay let's talk about a little bit because there's a lot going on there uh when we're at the hospital um when we talked about the blowjob the first time when it was just me and you um you said he basically got mad while
you're giving him oral sex and then I ask you a little later if he ejaculated honestly I don't know if he did uh honestly we'll talk about it let's just I'm just here to clarify okay I asked if he ejaculated you said you've had a boyfriend and you've given a man before right and you told me that you could kind of feel it through the bag some warmth and basically he told you he was done after that so that was pretty much done I got it I get it but in your mind that made you think he ejaculated okay and then he gets mad after that yep he got mad um he got mad when I didn't want to have it's like that's when he started getting irritated okay but it sounds like the pretty much finishes up he gets off like he wanted um but then he still asked you afterwards did he explain that because most guys once that happens they don't have an interest in
anything maybe he would have kicked you out of the car I don't know how to do this I know you were blaming yourself out there and I don't want you to do that it's just a matter of going through everything to to make sure we're not missing anything okay at that point did he pay you no I don't get anything I just okay so what happened to the bag and everything after the blowjob um I don't believe he ever took it off because I never seen him take it off did he pull his pants up no okay so at what point and he didn't uh really pull his pants down he just pulled his finger just enough to pull his penis out okay um okay we talked about it we talked about it it's okay I just want you to be honest okay I know you're worried about how it makes you look sure we got to be past that kind of point okay but I'm pretty sure he was asleep because I know my child and he would have
been playing and making noises you didn't hear him saying anything you're talking so I'm pretty sure he was okay um let's talk about the attack so you are in the front passenger seat and agent de Lucas driving he's the bad guy this is the seating position you're in um and I'm you he's in and I'm leaning over and you're leaning into his seat I'm not gonna do that I'm yeah that's that's basically your seating position where does he first hit you uh he hit me on this side like this like with his fist like this like back hands it um and then I even told the lady to see if she could get DNA in my hair cuz he did pull my hair okay and he kept hitting me he had a like a mason jar with weed in it and he kept hitting me with that all of my face I got punched in my mouth were you trying to get out of the car or were you trying to grab on the door and I did say let me go um and then pretty much after that it's just the blur like I just okay
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10 20 I don't know because my phone was in my purse I'm not asking you for an exact time I'm just trying does that sound sound kind of right with the times you know we're within a half hour of leaving the house you're getting hit and then I all I remember was waking up in Largo Park I couldn't tell you what happened I told her to drug test me sure to make sure nothing was in my system did you adjust anything when you're not that I know of did you have any painting needle marketing other than what the hospital did to you that's why I just told no drug test me is there any real reason to believe you're a drug tester or you're just being cautious I'm just being cautious but you don't I'm pregnant so I'm sure sure and when I when I met you at the hospital you didn't seem like you've been drinking you didn't seem under the influence or anything I don't do any of that stuff and you told me you don't really do any of it because you're pregnant obviously which is the right thing to do but that's not even a thing okay so we look at the
map at the hospital about where you think you were when you got up at the park when you woke up and you know you start realizing something's going on tell me what you told me there let's just make sure we have it all straight I woke up where were you I was under like under like some trees but where I was you couldn't see you're I was close enough where I could see 71 in the hotel perfectly clear were you on a sidewalk were you it's like gravel and dirt okay so gravel and dirt I got up it was a couple walking past and it was looking at me crazy yeah but they weren't I don't believe there were all older couple but then I was in the name of phrase name and then I ran to the hotel I do remember I do remember I fell
and then I felt I felt somebody kept kicking me trying to wake me up I woke up and I kept screaming I was on my stomach and I kept screaming I'm pregnant I'm pregnant and that's when I felt pain and my stomach the guy wrote me over and he kept saying sherees sherees sherees what are you like basically trying to get my attention is this all on the hotel so this is the hotel guy talking to me and then after that I believe it was the officers okay and then after that I just remember waking back up inside the ambulance truck okay and we talked about some things at the hospital did you leave anything in the car I don't have his green blood bag so that's the possibility that he can be in there okay were you missing a shoe and I don't have my shoe you got like you're what is it your right shoe yeah my left shoe you have your left
shoe you're missing your right where the hell did you take me if you did that's where the hell is he he doesn't you don't know him right never seen him before I don't hang out with anybody don't know anything about him you're smoking weed when you got in the car he wasn't smoking like at the time he could smell so he had just finished smoking so I'm having a hard time what he would do with that child after so you can keep going my head where do you think he would take a kid do you do you often take a ride from a stranger I don't I don't really talk to anybody have you ever gotten in a random car with a stranger you seem like a pretty level headed smart woman and to just jump in a car with your kid at 10 o'clock at night with a stranger just even from some of the people I've talked to you you know Jo Jo and mom it just seems kind of out of character for you to do that not only that but then to you know kind of off for yourself
for some money does he wear that partially not completely but that's not his problem it just seems like from your sexual history with him it doesn't seem like something you would you would do so I know pretty much junior is gonna get taken if he he's gonna get taken regardless because I'm facing any vision yeah I don't have a job and I can't financially survive for him correct so at this point I've never been on my own on my own I gotta do what I gotta do have you ever done anything blown a guy like that before for some money it doesn't seem like you that's that's not the personality I gather from you after talking with you for the past morning it just seemed on to me it seemed on to them it didn't seem to make a lot of sense we also talked at the hospital
remember I have to stand up and I asked if I could look at your legs and whatnot what do you are going on tell me what you're thinking okay why do you feel that way listen to me I want you to I want you to hear something very important okay you can't change what's already happened okay whatever's happened has happened all we can do is be honest about the situation and make good choices moving forward okay right now he's still missing okay I want
to know where he is okay it's the whole point of us being here today where do you think he is if you had you know really talking to people and then I just found we you know really go nowhere I'm talking about most people would rather assemble a 300 piece cabinet than search for insurance that's why the zebra searches for you comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can compare today at the zebra dot com the sun shining birds are singing and all feels right in the world until the season changes and suddenly you lose your motivation to get out of bed in fact one in five people experience some form of depression no matter the season or time of year at the American Psychiatric Association Foundation our vision is to build a mentally healthy nation for all because we want you to live your best life and be your best you all year round
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like I told you I can't I can't guarantee that I don't know the answer to that question sure here's a couple of tissues you can verify your water okay you didn't get dragged it doesn't look like um according what you're saying you didn't walk you know you didn't walk over there and lay down and you sure as I didn't jump there from the sidewalk so I'm just trying to make sense of it in my head okay yes sir okay I asked you a real important question at the hospital um and I know what you said there but I'm asking again and I just want you to be straightforward okay yes sir do you know where your son is no sir have you done anything injure him that would call I have to ask I'm not trying to make it difficult no sir has anything happened to him no sir oh now hurt my child okay
okay has anything happened to him that might explain what's going on or where you felt you felt you couldn't no you couldn't explain away he was okay he's all he's okay he says okay we don't know that okay and if he's somewhere that I can go find him I need to know okay he whatever happened we can talk about but something happened to him and I want to find him okay so remember it detected more you gave a permission to look in your phone he works with your phone and he pulled up some search history you had any phone from Saturday night at about two in the morning oh I think yeah I
looked up causes of seizure and I think that's pretty much it causes the seizure there's also one about a broken thigh if a broken thigh goes untreated you sure I'm positive sure I'm a hundred percent well I thought it was I would you know my mind goes there too but it was more than one search it was broken thigh broken thigh untreated yes and it's about two in the morning that same night he can can you pull that up and show me like are you you probably understand because like now I'm getting I'm I understand this is your job let me see I'll see if I can get a picture of it yeah please it is there should read please I'm still having a hard time please please because at this point
okay should read do you hear me sure read I'm okay you can go ahead I'm having a hard time with Antoine I don't know why he would want to keep this job I didn't do that you didn't do what I didn't do that what did you do what did you do look up a broken that's impossible do you have the picture I did not that's impossible I have it I will show you you second can you Sheree I'm I say your name right I'm sure it's Sherees Sherees Sherees yes sir did Antoine seem like I mean other than what occurred it seemed like he was a
an idiot no no just a regular in his early 20s yes sir and he's not going to want to take care he's not going to want to keep a child no no he's going to do the drop to get off somewhere and someone's going to call because there's been a hamburger left out for your child since early this morning Sherees am I not right and you said that was Friday night it was Saturday morning early Saturday morning yeah Sunday morning about 130 right and Antoine had him you think right
he's there what are you odds you think Antoine is not going to give that child someone to someone to turn over because he don't want it he may not pull to the police department but he didn't give him the first stop at a gas station and give him to someone at the police the only thing I can think of is he left him at the park with me I don't know okay I don't that's possible I don't know but I don't I don't you can I don't know what you got to do we're looking we're still looking even though we're having this conversation people are looking believe me but that doesn't get us any closer to finding him either and there's these points of the investigation we have to talk about and I told you it might be difficult but that's the nature of what's going on Antoine's not keeping that kid am I right no sir I was if I was in his predicament I would not agree there yes sir so that kid is somewhere yes sir all right now I'll be a little graphic for a moment okay but
if we're playing hypothetical and he leaves him with you in the park he probably would have walked out on the East Bay he's not going to wander into a dark park he's not going to go into the darkness he probably would have been found had he gone near the road whether it was a good way or a bad way you know people notice a kid wandering around he's been missing oh we're at 12 we're at about 18 hours oh my god it's two in the afternoon and he's not and he's not going to leave you if you're there no stay with you he has no idea where to go he's not just going to wander off into the wilderness and hope somebody picks him up he says they're you until you wake up or try to wake you up you are his mother you are the most close person in him in his life especially at a young age even with what's happening and what's going on okay we still don't have a trace of him sure we have no idea where he left no we went through the cameras on East Bay Drive we found
nothing that supports your story of you walking with a child okay I don't I don't have anything to back up what you're telling me how's your temperature is you get you get upset sometimes lose your temper all the person who gets me that matters drawing a senior family the guy who pawns a child off on you day in and day out doesn't give you a dollar for money except when you beg for it the guy who beats you up a month ago and doesn't care the guy who's got you pregnant again and his own words he doesn't care the guy who's basically taking your life down a whole different path and he can go off and party and do whatever he's left you to be a single mom never had a kid before Jordan he's your first you tell me that at the hospital he's a
person you want to be with and all he wants to do is get away from you that hurts I get it but I don't care about that well I don't care about that because even if I don't have him I still have sure sure but being a parent can be frustrating I think most people I work with are parents and the most common thing is nothing can push your buttons like your children they can be frustrating especially it too they can be difficult they can be needy they can they can be hard to deal with especially alone especially without support you're not getting breaks you don't have someone there to help okay temperature lost I've lost my temper with my own children before it's it's just a part of being a parent okay sometimes things happen by accident sometimes tempers flare sometimes they're you know they're pretty rigid little guys but once in a while something happens to him that they they don't bounce back from right away and it causes
parents to get scared and nervous and check the internet see what things might need to be done things in that nature I have a pretty strong idea of what I think happened okay and it doesn't mean it was done with intention to hurt him it could have been you know I don't know the situation but something has happened days that you're not telling me okay and what I want you to tell me the truth sure he's look me in the eye please I just want to know I have I did not sure he's you got to believe I did not hurt him maybe you didn't mean to I didn't hurt him sure he's no look at me no no no he doesn't say that he doesn't know I didn't hurt him oh baby he was okay he was okay I put him in that cart he was okay okay he hasn't been dropped off what we've talked about this
no one's called in no one's called in with a good location for where your son is no man's wants called in they send that amber alert out pretty damn extensively that's the way we got in touch with Jordan he got a message on his buddy's phone okay people know we're looking for him and nobody wants to be responsible for him they want to turn him over to us as fast as they can no matter what the circumstances okay we're looking but we're not finding much except red flags in his own home okay in his own apartment complex we've got a bunch of bloody clothing we've got neighbors saying there was some loud banging going on the other night we've got some unexplainable Google searches okay something's up and I'm not going to come down on you can you look at me
or not I'm not going to raise my voice I'm not the type to scream okay I'm not going to treat you look at me they hear me yell it or bang it is I'm yelling and Jordan sure the neighbors reported something got hit on your wall so hard it knocked a piece of furniture off on their side okay not making that up something happened at home and we're searching for an explanation at Sherees we're not any closer to finding him then we were 12 hours ago okay you've got a lot of people worried a lot of people are looking I just it may be hard to say but I just want the truth and we'll we'll work with it whatever way we have to
how did he get there I don't know remember yesterday Sherees when we had that conversation with Detective Arlington and we said we're going to call you on things when we think you're lying okay I'm calling on you right now okay you you know how we got there the Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going blending rugged muscle with precision engineering all supported by Toyota's time tested legacy of dependability step into a Tundra and feel the unyielding capability with the available iForce max engine Tundra puts out impressive power torque and towing performance and the roomy high-tech cabin keeps you connected on the go or take a look at Tacoma made for drivers who push past the path agile tough and relentless with available features like crawl control portable JBL speaker a power lift gate so gear goes in fast and the adventure keeps moving the Tacoma and Tundra are engineered to endure season after season mile after mile so drive one home today visit toyota.com or stop by your local Toyota dealer to find out
more Toyota let's go places you do okay I'm not trying to come on I'm gonna try to be hard on you but listen to me this is your one time to tell the real story I know there's no end to one now I know there's no car I know what for a fact okay I want to know how he died this is your one chance I shouldn't say one chance but this is the time for you to tell the real story okay I'm letting you tell the story I'll be quiet if you want to tell the real story I'll just let you talk okay but it's got to be the truth Sherees it's got to be the real story this time you know we've been catching you and in conflicts all week with the things you've been telling us it's time for the real story okay he deserves it
people are gonna make their opinion of this whole thing based on the story you tell about your son here today okay I'll sit here I'll heal it here it's only one of the two there's a reasonable explanation it's something got out of hand and something happened or you just don't give a shit and I'm starting to think it's number two I haven't thought that all week but boy do I feel stupid because I've been in your corner what happened that made you panic tell us what happened make us understand this isn't the first time we seen a dead baby but every time he has an explanation people can
understand give somebody something to feel so they can feel for you there's a reason this happened Sherees people deserve to know something happened grandma deserves to know both grandma's your mother has never even met him she deserves to hear the story the real story Jessica who has done thing but help you and try to be there for you you owe her an explanation you love Jordan senior but you also hate him you owe him an explanation he deserves to know it's his son too and this is not fair to him
because he has to live the rest of his life knowing this did he fall did he get hurt somehow and you panic didn't know what to do something something you carried his poor body almost a mile you were just scared you didn't know what to do but I don't what led up to that only you and him were there only you can tell the story now if you true want your son to forgive you for whatever happened yeah come on i'll walk you to the bathroom make a right
i'm overwhelmed right now was it was everything too why don't you didn't mean it so what happened and that's what we want to believe but i love you i know you love him have i ever told you you don't love him what happened come on it'll it'll make you feel better to get this off of your conscience i promise something happened at apartment didn't it he was okay when she brought us food okay when was he not okay at what point was he not okay
we had this seizure on Friday night into Saturday more early Saturday morning when you guys were in bed okay right so at what point did you say he was okay and um you said he was okay when you guys got up for the day mm-hmm at what point did he not okay um we got dressed about what time uh everything's pretty much the same Saturday what time did you get up Saturday i got about seven months when Jordan sent it called me and then i got up again you fell back asleep and then i got up again around 11 okay got him up uh brushed his teeth and stuff okay um we were just chilling at what point was he not okay he was straight uh Jessica brought us food we ate about six o'clock right okay that was the burger king
yes sir okay um and he was still he was still fine okay um i know it's tough you're doing good what happened where he wasn't fine uh the shower uh got dressed i gave him a bath got him dressed um he was still he wasn't like the normal but he was he was walking and stuff well you mean he wasn't the normal like um he was that and really weird his eyes was really weird how are they weird um are they back in his head were they like were they crossed like i don't know how to describe it like he wasn't all the way there
if that makes sense okay um remember lethargic we talked about the argic yesterday like uh he's a little loopy maybe um yeah okay was he using that leg that he heard the night before remember he heard his leg he was he was licking bad then he was licking bad Saturday Saturday night is that what we're talking about yes okay was it like broken i'm not sure you were googling it all night so yeah but he was licking pretty pretty glad okay so he wasn't walking real good let's say okay we left the house he was walking at that point he just we got near uh what is that did you have the house the same time we're talking about it all week nine nine fifty ten o'clock it may have been like later but i just remember when i had to take Jordan's phone well ten and twenty was when your phone disconnected does that sound right so i'll just say ten twenty about then ten twenty two okay um in the whole plan was to take him
to Jordan seeing himself that was the that was the plan it's a long walk um what path did you take i'm gonna get there okay that's it okay okay so you walk at it i don't think you're a pet person you're not a monster you're not you just gotta let us know what happened um you left the apartment you said he's walking a little bit but i just want to clarify like the blood stuff has nothing to do with this incident that's really from the chin because it's a lot of life that's really that has nothing okay there's nothing to do and okay hopefully when they do the autopsy like they'll do that yeah i hope so too okay it's fine but uh that's when we got towards um we didn't get off the complex yet and by i'll say before the outlet
okay like by the office there that's when he just he just passed out like and i just panicked like at that point surrounding the brain the two-year-old child has this little space in between when blood fills that space that's somewhere somewhere he has to do it that night how did he hit the one night well he fell off the bed friday and the Saturday he hit his head on what bed i say he hit his head when he was jumping on his bed in the living room okay what did he hit his head on the ground on the floor the type of head injury we're talking about doesn't happen from a low fall like that he might he might he might have hit it you know jumping on the bed but a low fall from someone his height jumping on the bed it doesn't happen i'm just trying to tell you i know i know but i just i just know from my experience and my training that that type of head injury is much more severe it's a really hard hit a really really really
hard hit so i'll remember your neighbor i told you about said something hit their wall really hard on Saturday did he hit his head on something Saturday afternoon okay how did he hit his head hard what part of his head did he hit i'm trying to walk in the living room i was up here because it was like reddish did you see him hit his head no i just said it was like real red well how do you know he hit his head because it was kind of like um not like a big knot but i i knew the difference between when he
was in a room with me when he was out there playing uh so wherever you when he hit his head i was in a um not the living room i was in the room the bedroom okay where was he he was the living room where his little toddler bed is there is it the living room where's like the dining room there um like the like the dining room okay where it was yesterday when we went to the apartment room and you went in it was yeah okay yeah that's where it was but it was um i don't know if you was there before they took everything out but the bed was like more up against the wall yeah i was pulled off the wall a little bit but it was against that wall okay how did he hit his head so hard trees it's like when i'm telling you to choose this like damn like why didn't we talk about this two days ago why are you afraid to tell me
just kind of snowballed in man you didn't know what to do and you tell one little lie and it just grows and grows and grows yeah before you know it leaves sleep tonight it's out of hand all that stuff we've talked about the past few days it's behind us i want to know how he hit his head now i didn't make him hit his head so i can't tell where where was he when your grandmother came with the food um his grandma he was in her own children watching tv we'll see you with archery then oh no i'm gonna say that word i don't really get it was i'm sorry what's he acting off what's he acting funny he was just sitting there watching tv like a squeeze and what that because all i remember is him having oh that's him he has a birthmark right here no it's a birthmark because you're not gonna be able to see it well yeah you probably will wear right there that's a bruise not a birthmark you said his birthmark zone is right sign over here you know what this is a
bruise you know what that is that's somebody grabbing grabbing the baby get something that's what that is yes i told you i've been doing this forever right i've seen everything i've seen it all you panicked you wanted to get him to see your or even the hospital hell you're you're almost there and yes i believe he died in your arms but something happened to make you leave i really want you to just get him from food but he didn't eat you can't eat after i had injury like that oh no he ate what happened we can understand that i told you hundreds of people i've interviewed and they've all said that one second one split second is all it was and you would take back that second in the
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