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0:00There's been no shortage of breaking news every day. But as you know here at the Katie Fane News Channel, I always want to make sure that certain things that are very important don't pass you by. This happened last week. I want to bring it to the forefront of the conversation because it was historical. It was the first time that a federal judge actually held a lawyer at the Department of Justice in contempt. Now, here's the caveat. It was civil contempt, not criminal contempt. So no, that lawyer was not hauled into jail, but it is the first, I think, in the critical steps by the judiciary to push back against the unlawful and unconstitutional tactics of this Trump administration. We have talked about how critically important it is for judges to actually have teeth to their orders, to their sanctions, to actually put the fear of God into these lawyers so that they do not enable the bad conduct of the Trump administration.
1:00So let's take a little bit of a deeper dive so you know what I'm talking about. A federal judge in Minnesota, why? Because obviously, Minnesota has kind of been ground zero as of late, even now, when it comes to illegal conduct by the Trump regime. Federal judge Laura M. Provenzino of the Federal District Court for the District of Minnesota last week asking a Justice Department lawyer the following question, quote, why should I not hold you in contempt? End quote, what was that relating to? She had ordered a federal judge had ordered a detained immigrant to be released in Minnesota. Instead, he was released where in El Paso, Texas, spent the night in a local shelter, his property was supposed to have been returned to him, including his ID. Necessary documents, right? The Department of Justice Lawyer, who, footnote, is actually a jag lawyer, a judge advocate general lawyer
2:03who's on a temporary assignment to the Justice Department to handle these huge influx of immigration cases. Why? Because they don't have lawyers at these respective federal offices that want to be able to handle these cases. The DOJ lawyer says in response to the judges' question about whether she should hold him in contempt. This was his answer, quote, I don't think there was ever any intention to defy the court orders. We were doing our best and things, unfortunately, slipped through the cracks. Judge Provanzino dissatisfied, obviously, with this answer being given by the DOJ lawyer, found this guy in civil contempt of court. She ordered him to pay $500 a day until the identity documents were returned to this immigrant. Now, this was the very first time that any judge had actually
3:04entered a contempt order against one of the lawyers in the Trump administration, at least in the second Trump term. And again, it's civil contempt, not criminal contempt, but folks, we got to work our way to throwing their asses into jail. Now, the New York Times, in their article, did a review of the federal dockets online. And the New York Times found at least a 35 instances since August of last year, 2025, in which a federal district court judge or a madrasha judge refresher, madrasha judges work with the federal district court judges, which are technically above them, the madrasha judges often handle a lot of the work and a federal district court judges courtroom. Sometimes the madrasha judges handle the motions and stuff like that, that the federal district court judge doesn't do. It's just to be efficient when it comes to the docket. And efficiency is going to be very relevant in a minute. But a review that was done by the New York Times has found
4:05at least 35 instances wherein a federal district court judge or a madrasha judge has issued an order requiring the government to explain why it should not be held in contempt of court for violating court orders. Now, there's a legal phrase as we describe these court orders. They're called show cause. And what does that mean? It's a little convoluted, so stick with me for a second, which you'll definitely appreciate the explanation. A motion for a rule to show cause gets an order for a rule to show cause. And these federal orders are basically saying, please tell me, Department of Justice, why you should not be held in contempt of court for failing to abide by or obey a federal court order. So when a motion for a rule to show cause is granted, the order will say order for order on showing cause
5:11or order for, you know, this order for this lawyer to have to or the department have to come and show cause why it should not be held in contempt of court. I hope that makes sense. So in this instance, we have all of these show cause orders. Why? Because the Trump regime continuously violates court orders. Now, these show cause orders, as they're called, have come in courts in California, Texas, Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico, and they're all in cases where immigrants have been detained illegally after being taken into custody despite having lived in the United States for years, for years, okay? Now, in response to this judges holding this lawyer in similar contempt of court, a spokesperson for the Department of Justice said the following, she blamed, quote, rogue judges for not following the law and for allowing high case loads, claiming that the Trump administration is, quote,
6:12complying with court orders and fully enforcing federal immigration law, end quote, which we know is bullshit. In New Jersey, the DOJ admitted last week that it had violated judicial orders 52 times since December 5th, folks, it's only March 2nd. What is that? January, February, March, not even three months. They've violated judicial orders 52 times at immigration detention cases. During a nationwide call last month with representatives from the 93 U.S. Attorney's offices across the country, Akash seeing an associate deputy attorney general who, by the way, has been identified in very bad ways in Kilmer, Abrego Garcia's case, for example, Akash seeing complained, according to the New York Times, that the judges filing deadlines in these detention cases are, quote, unrealistic and that their rulings are, quote, crazy. Seeing went on to tell the representatives for these 93 U.S. Attorney's offices, quote,
7:15I want to just stress that an average decision from a judge is not a reason to stop doing what you know to be right. We are the ones charged with keeping America safe. That's some Kuku for Coco Puffs bullshit. I mean, that is some real fucking indoctrination you're hearing then. And you may follow me on Substack and also here, I did a big piece about the U.S. Attorney in Minnesota his name is Dan Rosen and how he's just a MAGA ass kisser of Donald Trump. Do you know what Donald Rosen said? The U.S. Attorney, quote, Judge Provincino's order is a lawless abuse of judicial power. He wrote that in an email statement the night that one of the DOJ's lawyers was held in contempt of court. But what does the Trump administration do? They're too chicken shit to actually do anything. So what did they do? They fed ext, the identity documents to the lawyer for the detained immigrant. So that he could get his documents back. And they did that within days, within just a few days of that contempt order.
8:17I think it was like within 24 hours in fact, chicken shit. Now, why have there been so many cases? Well, listen to this. Habies corpus petitions, as we've covered here, is y'all know about petitions that are filed by people that are in custody with the federal government basically saying bring the body to the court. So the government can explain why that person continues to be held, why the body is being detained. Habiest corpus, why is the body being detained by the federal government? Thousands of detainees have filed habeas corpus petitions because they are being illegally detained pursuant to the Trump administration's immigration enforcement tactics. So now these U.S. attorneys are being told, hey, by the way, you should expect to work nights, weekends, and for example, the guy who was just held in civil contempt in Minnesota, he has at least 140 detention cases over the past month in Minnesota. But listen, it's the world's fucking smallest violent
9:19playing for you. What do I say that? Don't do illegal, unconstitutional detention measures, then you won't get all of the habeas corpus petitions. And you know what, I'm not the only person. Several judges have basically told the DOJ lawyers, it's not that about sympathetic that you have a lot of cases, but guess what, I have a lot of cases now too, because you guys have done all this stuff, so you're kind of reaping what you sow here, not in so many words, but yes in so many words. You have judges that are telling the Trump DOJ, I don't want to hear your bitching complaining, because if y'all actually weren't doing what you're doing, you wouldn't be getting all these habeas petition cases. Which is true. So how many cases? Well, for example, a judge in Central California, federal court found that her district have received 551 habeas corpus petitions over five weeks. A judge in New Jersey found 547 petitions in nine weeks. A judge in the Western District of Texas said 134 active cases with 20 to 25 arriving each week,
10:19each week, okay? Now, the judge in the end did not impose the fine because the identity documents were immediately returned to the detainee, okay, but listen to what she said. Judge Provenzino cited to 10 other cases from January and February of just this year, in which the DOJ had come before her specific bench and pleaded for leniency. Quote, the refrain of understaffing in too many cases has worn out its welcome, particularly when it comes at the expense of individual rights. Now, look, people, I hear you, I get it. People's lives are literally at stake. We have people dying in federal custody. We have children and we have humans that are suffering in federal custody. We have people being snatched off the street, kidnapped, and then deported to third countries or back to the places they were never supposed to be sent to. I mean, it is outrageous. Or they're just rotting, rotting in federal custody.
11:21I know that what I've just explained to you may not sound like it has enough oomph, but you know what, people? These judges are basically keeping their powder dry. I've told you that fear is a process by which contempt can be obtained. I've also told you, actually from one of my first episodes here at the Katie thing news channel last year and like June when I launched the channel, judges need to have balls. Sorry for the phrase, but I truly mean what it means. We need judges to have the courage to do this. We also need judges that understand that there is a process by which you hold people in contempt. You can't just rush to contempt. You have to have an order. It has to be violated. You have to have a show cause. Come here and show cause as to why you shouldn't not be held in contempt of court. And after that happens and the judge needs to make a determination based upon the evidence set submitted, which is why these judges are getting exasperated
12:23with the judge, we have so many cases, the judge wasn't into our intent to do it because in order to find criminal contempt or civil contempt, you have to find intentional disregard for a court order. But as you're hearing, these federal judges are not stupid and they're saying, look, that excuse, we have not enough lawyers, we have too many cases, we didn't mean to do it, it was an accident. They're whysening up to this, right? And they're saying those excuses have worn out they're welcome like Judge Provinzino says. So again, this is a heralded and welcome victory, the first case of its kind, where a federal judge has held a Department of Justice lawyer in contempt, civil contempt for violating court orders. We should celebrate the wins when we get them, understanding that they're just a part of the bigger battle in the war. The way that it does send a message to other judges
13:24that are very much paying attention, that are very much exasperated over the bullshit, that there are pathways to getting shit done. The problem is that as we've heard, 99% of the time the damage is done. Somebody has either been deported, somebody's been removed from that jurisdiction, I mean, you name it, the damage has been done. We have to get to the point where the damage doesn't happen. But that requires lawyers not doing the wrong things, that requires federal agents not doing the wrong things. Because remember, by the time it makes it in front of a judge, the damage has already occurred, right? Or the damage is imminently going to happen, which is why maybe just maybe these judges will say enough with the civil contempt. It's clearly not resonating with you and you're not hearing me. So now we're gonna put your ass in jail. And every day we're gonna put you in jail until you purge it. And maybe it's not just the lawyers. Maybe we haul people like Christy Noem, et cetera, in.
14:27Be Mabbie Outrage Man Accountability. Again, here at Katie Fang News, like and subscribe, but share this far and why, get people to subscribe. This is important. It may not be a ran, it may not be, you know, just whatever the hell is happening in the last minute, but you know what? It's something that is really important for us to be paying attention to. Katie Fang here, we launched the Katie Fang News Channel in partnership with the Midas Touch Network. So we could bring you the latest and legal and political news, straight, no chaser. So if you're a fellow truth teller, hit that subscribe button and share the word about this channel. So we can build a high information America together. They're calling in the Quaker Town Five, a group of high school students that have now been placed under arrest while they were protesting ice immigration enforcement tactics. They were a part of a student walkout at a local high school in Quaker Town, Pennsylvania on Friday, February 20th. During that walkout, while not wearing his badge
15:30in and plain clothes, the chief of police, I rate and angry, ends up physically confronting these high school students. One young girl, 15 years old, is placed into a violent chokehold by the chief of police. And now, those Quaker Town Five are fighting back because they're being criminally investigated and charged. I've got that young girl's lawyer and her parents hear with me for this episode. I want you to listen, because what's happening in small town America is also happening across our country. But the good thing is, the kids are paying attention. And they know that what they're witnessing and what they're hearing is wrong. It's unconstitutional. Take a listen to this important episode. Joining me now, I do have the privilege of being able to spend some time with the parents of that 15-year-old girl, who is part of the Quaker Town Five, who was put into a chokehold by the local police chief that would be Allison Reynolds and Miguel Gonzalez.
16:31And now, we also have the lawyer that is representing that young lady. His name is Tim Prendergast. Thank you all for joining me this evening. Allison and Miguel, I have to start with you. I want to know how your daughter is doing. I also want to know how you're doing. It's got to be incredibly traumatic for her to go through that experience and also for U.S. her parents to have to know that she was hurt in just trying to be out there and trying to be active in her own community. Yeah, we were very proud of her for standing up for what's right, for what she believes in. I dropped her off at school in the morning. We chatted about the protest that was going to happen. Everything was fine and within the afternoon, we started getting the calls, the videos. People were sending videos and pictures. It was pretty terrifying to see.
17:36As a family dynamic, we're trying to support her the best way as possible to ensure that she has the level of care she needs, the support she needs, the love that she needs right now. And overall, I mean, she's, I can't say she's doing great, but she's doing the best she can each day. Miguel, before I ask you a question, I'm actually going to play for our viewers. There was a lot of video that was taken publicly because it's happened out on a street. I'm going to play for our viewers right now, some of the video and then I'm going to have a question for you on the other side. Tyler, if you could play that video. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Miguel, as a father, as a man,
18:37you're seeing the chief of police who we don't even know is because he's wearing plain clothes, he's putting your little girl, your daughter in a chokehold. How does that make you feel watching that video, which by the way, again, is one of several videos that captured what happened that day? I'm, as you know, the video are angry, it's scary to be a part of the same time because it's 15 years old. That's too much pressure for her. He can do a damage and stuff like that, you know? I don't like that very much. Why is it going to remain, try to pull the shop at 15 years old? Why? When I support the police, I support you. I'm not sure why they do it or whatever you do it. It's not easy, I'm not angry. But that's what it is. I can do nothing, you know?
19:37When I want to bring him more for my job, I'm sorry, for my daughter more, you know, angry, stop me, nothing. I understand. Tim Prendergast, you are the attorney who's representing this minor, we're not going to say her name because she is a minor, but Tim, unfortunately, she is one of the, what they're calling the Quaker Town Five, that we're arrested. Arrested for taking part in a student walkout to protest ICE. We've seen the horrific things that have been having across our country as a result of ICE immigration enforcement tactics. These incredibly motivated young people wanted to express how they feel, the school knew about it, and now they're under arrest and being prosecuted? Yeah, this is, you know, and this is really at the heart of the issue, is that, you know, they were not, they're not being prosecuted for their protest. They're being prosecuted for the situation created by the chief and the police
20:39and an improper monitoring of this protest. My client is being charged with aggravated assault on a police officer. After being held in a rear naked chokehold, taken to the ground, having her backpack stripped, stripped open her, you can see, her book's thrown all over the street, as she got off the, off the chief when people had separated her from this 72-year-old man, you know, not identified, tackling her, she got up and threw the backpack off onto the ground. I think it may have inadvertently brushed against the chief, but it was an empty jane sport backpack, and my client has been charged with aggravated assault as a result of that. So these charges are, appear to be a reflex action to the inappropriate action taken on behalf of the police department, and that's certainly our strong position. Our strong position is the district attorney's office should have never detained these children, should have never charged them, shouldn't have left them in detention till Tuesday morning, and then should not have argued for their further detention
21:39as they remain on house arrest. So they're not, you know, the independent investigation, I have great questions in regards to that, because you've already labeled this chief of victim, and we've all seen the video. And, you know, there was anger at this man, it wasn't a police action, and he was acting outside of his scope of authority, unidentified, this is a child, and I'm here because this was a child, I saw the same videos we all did, and I called up, said, listen, I can help, because this is not right, this is, you know, anger, as the idea of crushing the message in this country seems to be popular, and that's not right. And I thank God, because our people, my age are failing, and these kids are the ones that are standing up for their own rights, for their independence, this is important, and I'm glad to help. Tim, I wanted to follow up with you, I want people to understand these five young children, they're arrested, detained as juveniles,
22:40on Friday, February 20th, and it because it's the weekend, they're held in detention, until they... No storm, till Tuesday. So they got the next day, yeah. They had an extra day, because everything was closed down on Monday, as a result of, it's, it's, it's, it's egregious. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it shocks the conscious, it's quite frankly, in my opinion. The charges themselves, the affidavit of a probable cause is, is, as oftentimes an affidavit of a probable cause, is a police version that does not reflect any of the evidence for the witnesses. Problem we're having, Katie, is, I've got investigators who have put all this together, people are afraid to come forward. They won't, they won't talk. They, they've told us that they saw it all. They, they would concur with what our positions are, but they fear police retaliation. And in a burrow of 9,300 people, where the chief of police is also the town manager. You know, there's a legitimate fear of police retaliation, you know, and it's just getting pulled over,
23:42or, you know, getting cited for, you know, having, and in proper mailbox, this is what happens when you concentrate power in a small burrow in one person. Tim, how does the district attorney investigate the, the chief of police, again, who was not wearing identification that day, was in plain clothes and was not identifiable as the chief. How does the DA investigate the chief of police for his wrongdoing, whether it's also labeled him a victim? How does he do that? I don't, I don't know. And we, we, I am, I myself, all the attorneys in this have brought this up through individual letters. Attorney Angel had a meeting with, with, with district attorney con. Now listen, they're still investigating. Their office, their detective is still investing in this or where I'm not, I'm not condemning them for their results yet, but I do, I question how can you, you've already taken a position. You've already labeled your, the chief of victim, and you've left my client a felon. You want to give, you want to give my 15-year-old girl as no prior juvenile record, a good student who was
24:43exercising her first amendment rights to, to protest and to assemble, and you want to give her a felony that she will wear for the rest of her life. You got to think about that and, you know, and, and, and they're taking it, you know, at this point in time, I have not seen any relenting. You know, they added a felony charge to one of the defendants at that detention hearing. They didn't remove any. So, you know, this is, this is where we're at. And, you know, in the juvenile system, they have a trial before one judge, no jury. So, the court of public opinion and what you're doing here, unfortunately, and this matter is important. And it needs that, you know, and generally, I don't like to try cases in the public. But the public has seen this, you know, the public is served best by these children being exonerated or just more importantly, having these charges dismissed. They don't, it should never have to face this process. But now they have to go through juvenile intake interviews, contested hearings the entire process. Subject to this, for they didn't start this. And, and any person in their right adult male,
25:44friend who sees their friend tackled by someone unidentified in an unimposed, in an unofficial capacity, you know, choking them out. I mean, this was not a headlock. This was not, this was a, it's hard for me to imagine as a father of four children having a daughter, you know, I can't imagine. I don't know what sort of anger, what sort of rage is inside of you that you can grab a child like that and throw it to the ground. For a situation you started, the chief, we are finding was part of these counter-proud testers from the beginning. It may have been his truck that was struck by this, by one of these defendants, we're still developing this information. So, and if, and we've been provided lots of information, there's been a lot of research done here. And prior to them cleaning up their social media accounts, the chief and his wife had pretty vitriolic, very, very, and we will share those with you if you'd like. Lots of Facebook posts and truth social and all these Democrats are copies. I am a grand Latinos, if you don't speak English,
26:44you shouldn't be in the country. So, it's hard for me not to believe that there was a separate bias and motivation going on and what happened there. And I think his act reflect that. Allison, I wanted to ask you, I've seen the other videos here and I've seen, it took another man, another adult male, to have to pull this chief of police off of your daughter. Yeah, white male. White male who wasn't charged, Katie. We can't even find out who that is. Is it the other name of the probable cause but he wasn't charged, he wasn't white male. Listen, I'm glad he was there, don't get me wrong. I might put my point being, is that the five kids of color got charged. That's going to be the answer here. Yeah, Allison, I wanted to ask you though, you mentioned a few minutes ago that when you dropped off your daughter that morning that you spoke about kind of the import and the meaning of what was going to happen that day. What I find to be so troubling about the Quaker Town school district is that they knew this walk out was going to happen
27:47and if they knew and then later on, because I read about this, that there was a Quaker Town community school district meeting where they're now claiming that there was some type of safety threat and that's the reason why they didn't want the kids to be able to do this. I mean, this is 35 kids, Allison, that are walking out protesting ICE immigration enforcement tactics. If the school cared so much about their safety, why didn't they do something or let you know as a parent that there was something going on? But instead, they allowed the kids to walk out and there were counter protesters, there were screaming racial epithets at these children that were trying to physically provoke these children. So really, I love how they're now saying, oh, there was this huge safety issue created by the walk out students, the reality is the dangerous conditions were created by the counter protesters, one of whom sounds like was the local police chief who was in plain clothes that day. And that's what initiated police action was
28:48those kids defending themselves against those people. So, you know, and that's at the heart of this issue. And that's inappropriate action taken from the beginning, a failure to de-escalate by the police. You know, there's officers, uniform officers on the video that actually de-escalate, they act professionally in regard. But this is their boss. So I imagine that they would have been more de-escalating had it not been their boss that was firing this all up. And so, you know, it's hard. And I don't think what they haven't told you. And I think what you know that Alison is the child's stepmother and that her mother at Miguel and her mother, they're both immigrants. So this child, her story and her reason for protest could not be more legitimate. You don't understand she is speaking for herself as well as for the rest of the people who are too afraid to say it. So, I mean, God bless her for doing it.
29:50So, you know, this is a case of why are there five kids of color now being charged with felonies? Why is this, you know, the chief's still operating as the chief and the district attorney's office is barreling ahead? So I'm hoping that that stops, that suddenly, that they get all this information that we're gathering and say, you know what, we made a mistake, we take our hands off. At this point in time, we don't see that. And we're prepared to defend her with her innocence every now and then. Allison, I mean, you know, you knew that, that your daughter was gonna be a part of this walk out. And, you know, you mentioned at the beginning that you were proud of the fact that she was wanting to be somebody who wanted to express her first amendment right to say, this is wrong, what we're seeing happening. Is there stuff going to describe Quaker Town, Pennsylvania for people that may not know what type of community is this? It's, it's interesting, it's interesting. To say the least, you know, it's very small.
30:52There is a lot of how I would say, I don't really know how to put it, I'm sorry. It's the reddest part of the county. I was just about to ask, is it, yeah. I'm just not sure. I just admit it's from here from Quaker Town. Thank you, Tim. I'm very familiar with the day. I'm not sure how much I should say. You know, there's, there's, there's money, you know, in the area and it's Bucks County, but there's farmers. There's, so it, but this particular slice, the Quaker Town slice, there's probably leads more, much more red in a way. You'll see more Trump signs there, more MAGA type stuff. Which, it's the kind of town where the town manager can post, you know, can, can post every MAGA, you know, a hateful meme that you can put and puts it on his social media page with his wife. So, you know, that's okay, apparently,
31:52and people, people, people, police as well. So, hey, listen, we all have a first amendment right, including the chief, don't get me wrong, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm saying that, but, you know, I think we, as civically, the problem we're having in this country is we have too many people that being, I think being a civil leader is advocating for a horrible position, you know, in their own personal, you know, views or biases, as opposed to serving the community and the people that they're supposed to do. I think that the best way I could describe Quaker Town is when you drive through, you see a lot of Confederate flags, you see a lot of red, you see, you know, you know, things that I would deem just not right, regardless of where you stand. It just, you know, it doesn't feel like a nice place, right? In my opinion, inclusive. It doesn't feel as inclusive as it could be, right?
32:55Right. Bucks County is a changing demographic, but it's, there's a lot of that old element that's still here. Miguel, I understand that this has to be just, especially as you are an immigrant, right? Like this is part of what we're seeing right now in the United States is the immigrant story under attack. I am also, I am the child of immigrants, right? I'm first generation born here. My parents came to the United States. Your thoughts about how important it is to be able to not only support your daughter because she's your daughter, but also to show that, you know, this is how we're supposed to express our discontent with the way things are. We are supposed to be able to assemble freely outside on the streets and say, this is wrong. And as long as we're doing it legally, there should, and there's no violence involved, it should be okay.
33:55Yeah. The reason we're a country. Everybody here is immigrant. Everybody here is immigrant. Exactly right. Okay, I don't know why you're fighting for, I'm a, you know, resident. Yeah, you're a resident now for your immigrant too. Yeah. I don't understand that. Yeah. Listen, I am outraged that this has happened to not only your daughter, Allison and Miguel, and your client, Tim. I'm outraged this has happened. I would love to have you all come back along the way. Hopefully everything goes away. Hopefully the charges are dropped, but I wanna make sure that we have this time together so I could spread awareness about what's happening because I feel like it's important for people to understand. Things that may not be happening in big cities
34:55are still also happening in our smaller towns. Yeah, right. And that it's important for the world to see and the world to know that our young people are watching us and they're paying attention and they are making up their own minds about what they want their country to be. And that a better example, Katie, because we're not doing it. Exactly. And when they try to do that, they can't. I'm embarrassed by my peers, absolutely embarrassed. And I have been for so. But you know what, our young kids are standing up and they're standing up for what they believe is right. I walk out the street. I'm worried somebody will identify me as a mega support. That's how I mean, I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. And that's why I find the whole idea of white supremacy a complete joke because you see how you're acting, nothing supreme about it. That's all I can say. Allison, you were saying that they should be able to be standing up for themselves, right?
35:56Yeah. I mean, they're their children just and just because they are children does not mean that they don't have opinions. And I think that's where a lot of people get confused is they think that they're 15. They don't know better. They're an adolescent. No, they do. They do know and they do have opinions and they can stand up for themselves and they can stand up for what they believe in. And they should. That is what it is. Without being tackled by Chiefs of Police. Outrageous, that too. Yeah. Rageous. Well, listen, Tim Prendergast, the attorney for one of the Quaker Town Five. Thank you for your advocacy as a fellow lawyer to a lawyer. Thank you for caring so much. I care. And I'm glad you do too, because we need people like you, Katie, because God knows the legacy media is given in is Anthony. And we need people are telling the truth. Thank you. Allison Reynolds, thank you so much.
36:57And Miguel, por favor, yo voy a hablar en español. Es una lástima lo que pasó a su hija. Y espero que todo está bien al fin. Pero gracias a usted para pasar tiempo conmigo voy, okay? No gracias a usted. Thank you. I appreciate it. For those of you that aren't participating, I told them that I thought it was a shame what happened to his daughter and that I hope everything turns out okay in the end. And I wanted to say thank you for I'm spending time with us this evening. Thank you all. And again, the doors open for you to come back and keep us posted on what is happening here. But I appreciate the privilege of all of your time. Thank you. Thank you. Allison, we're keeping the pressure up, Allison Bigger. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye bye. Katie Fang here. We launched the Katie Fang news channel in partnership with the Midas Touch Network. So we could bring you the latest and legal and political news. Straight, no chaser. So if you're a fellow truth teller, hit that subscribe button and share the word about this channel. So we can build a high information America together.
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