Joy Behar Is Not Competing With Anyone!

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All right, it is Tuesday, March 31st, the last day of March.

Spring is here. We're moving forward, and we've got big news.

We're going to talk about it in a moment.

But first, let's welcome Joy Behar to behind the table.

Hi. Hi. How are you?

I'm doing well. I haven't seen you for three days.

I know. I've missed you. I always miss you when you're out.

I miss you, too. Really? No.

Yeah. All right.

Let me tell you, I always love some Joy Behar,

but today, my heart and my cup runneth over,

because thanks to our art rapport,

we are now a web-enominated podcast.

We have been nominated for best individual episode in news and politics.

This is the first step for me becoming a We Got.

I want the E Got with the Webby.

This is a big deal. I'm very excited about this.

Well, so how does that hole you up against?

All right. So we're up against four other podcasts.

Also, individual...

Yeah. So it's the best individual episode.

Yeah.

And the episode in particular was Joy Behar's message to Stephen Colbert,

was the title of the episode.

And we talked about when Stephen got, let him know he's getting fired.

What was my message during that?

The importance of comedians.

That's a hammered home for a long time.

But this is an interesting thing, because we are nominated.

It's a big deal.

For those who don't know, I really like awards.

I really like them, and I don't have a lot of them.

So people at home can vote.

So this is the time.

All this time, I've been cultivating my vast legions of Bright Guys.

Yeah, Bright Guys and Joy Boys.

And they unite for this.

Now's the time to step up.

Step up, look in the episode description, and vote for the Webby's.

But where are they supposed to go to vote?

It's going to be on where they're listening to this.

They're going to see it at the bottom of the page.

They're going to vote for it.

But you go to the Webby page, and what's going to put it on all our social media.

And then you vote, and then we try them.

So there's two categories here.

We can win from fan selection, and there's also a judged category about quality.

I don't have a lot of hope for the judged category about quality.

But there are fans, the Bright Guys.

Why do you say that?

Because we never win anything.

But the Bright Guys and the Joy Boys are coming out for us.

I feel it.

I believe it.

Okay.

What do you feel about this?

That's very nice.

I like having recognition.

We were lording it over the other host that you and I are the ones that got it.

I was not lording, and I was worried that they were going to be jealous.

No, they're okay.

But Sunny said she doesn't care.

Yeah.

Oh, Sunny.

Sunny's not competitive at all.

We'll see.

I believe her.

All right.

Well, I'm very excited.

Thank you to the fans.

Thank you to everyone who pays attention to this podcast.

And as you like to point out, it's the most important thing in my life.

In your life, yeah.

You've got everything.

No, I know.

Not mine.

All right.

But you'd like to win, right?

Sure.

All right.

So, Joy Boys, get on it.

Well, I've got two awards that I value tremendously.

The NAACP award and the GLAAD award.

Yes.

Because I feel like, especially the GLAAD award, I feel like I'm presenting myself as pro gay,

which I am.

And there's recognition of something that I actually am doing that's good for the world.

Yes.

And Emmy for a good performance, it's nice, but that doesn't really thrill me as much

as those two awards.

Yeah.

The Emmy thrilled me quite a bit, but I understand.

Well, you're more shallow than I am.

Much more shallow.

Yeah.

All right.

Fine.

You know, I write plays now.

I've heard.

I did.

We had a fantastic show in Boston over the weekend of my first ex-husband.

Yes.

Our next stop is New Haven and then White Plains and then London.

You know, it's funny because we were nominated for this Webby Award from about a year ago

and I was listening to it today to remind me of what we got nominated for.

Yeah.

It featured many discussions of plugs for your play.

Good.

Yeah.

I mean, people are coming to see my plays.

Aren't you happy for me?

Thrilled.

Very thrilled.

Okay.

All right.

Now, as I alluded to, I'm obviously very competitive and I want to win this Webby, but

it relates to a hot topic that I'm going to bring up for you.

Okay.

Go ahead.

It's a story about Michael Jordan, one of the goats, you know what a goat is, right?

Greatest of all time.

Greatest of all time.

You're a goat yourself.

Yeah.

He's one of the goats of basketball.

I'm going to go so far as to say he is the goat of basketball.

What's his name?

Michael Jordan.

He recently said that he feels cursed by his competitive nature, saying that everything

he does is through a competitive lens on a scale from one to 10, how competitive would

you say you are?

I don't know if I can even judge it, but I do have a competitive side.

I'm somewhat competitive, but at this point in my life at this age, I'm in my own race.

I mean, my own race.

So I mean, who do you think is the most, I mean, the other ladies on the view, do you feel

they're competitive?

I don't think whoopee is actually particularly competitive.

You can't tell.

Yeah.

She's also in her own race.

Yeah.

She does what she does.

She's a singular sensation.

True.

Sonny is very, very competitive.

Sonny has a competitive streak, but it's not vicious.

No, but it fuels her.

It drives her to greatness.

Right.

Right.

And the same with Michael Jordan.

Yeah.

He wants to be a better player than some of these other guys.

But he can't turn it off, but I think it makes him unhappy.

Well, it's very, it makes you tightly wound.

It doesn't make you make friends for you.

I'll tell you that.

Do you feel like that changes with time earlier in your career in life where you're

competitive?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, it does.

I'm not competitive anymore.

And now I'm, you know where I'm at right now in this point of my life.

Besides being creative, which I'm very creative right now more than I used to be.

I also feel like I'm, I want to help younger kids.

I'm afraid.

Like, let's say they say, I, you know, I'm not going anywhere in my career either here

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I will help them.

I want to help them.

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Rest.

We had a killer amongst us murder at the U. Listen now.

We had Rahm Immanuel here with us today.

What did you think about what he had to say?

He's a smart guy.

I liked him.

I think he's smart.

He doesn't take any prisoners.

No.

This whole routine about constantly saying that I love you to your children and to your

parents and to everybody.

I love you.

I love you.

I love you constantly.

It's so annoying.

Really?

You don't say I love you to your daughter?

She knows I love her.

I don't have to say it.

That's good.

That's good.

The same with my husband.

I don't have to tell him.

I love him constantly.

They know because of my behavior, not because I say the words.

The words are meaningless.

No.

Well, based on your behavior to me, I'd like to hear the words.

I'm just saying.

Well, because you're an insecure guy.

Yes.

But incredibly needy.

But I've raised a daughter who's not insecure.

No, and my daughters aren't either.

I have to say.

I love you constantly to them.

I do.

Yeah, I do.

And what do they say?

Shot?

No, they say I love you, daddy.

They love me.

I never heard it from anybody in my family.

I know.

You've talked about how you have like really unresolved stuff with your dad.

I mean, maybe if he had said I love you a little bit more, it would have done something.

My father, his words would have meant nothing to me because he was not around enough.

He was busy with the horses.

Yes.

If he gave up the horses.

He loved number seven.

I'll tell you.

That's right.

I'll tell you right now.

And given up gambling, he bought us a house and a car.

Right.

I would have believed that he loved me.

Right.

He didn't say.

Because he loved the horses more than he loved me.

You know, somebody very smart said to me, any addiction, trumps, any relationship.

And that is, I have come to understand him that he was addicted.

And there was nothing.

There was no gamblers anonymous back in the day.

There was nothing for us to do but tolerate it.

Well, Ron also said that raising successful kids for him stemmed from being present.

And having family dinners with them.

Family dinners were a big part of my family growing up too.

Every Sunday after we moved out went to college.

We went to my parents house to have dinner.

Yeah.

I'm trying to keep up a version of that as we get older.

Was that a thing?

I mean, that's an Italian thing.

I grew up with that.

And the whole family was constantly gathered in some small kitchen.

One of the apartments that they had for Easter, for Christmas, for Thanksgiving, for everything.

I miss my family very much.

All my aunts and uncles, my parents, I miss them all.

I always say that.

I really do.

Right.

Do you miss the dinners?

Well, you know, we're going out for dinner on Easter Sunday.

Me and my kids.

Oh, that's nice.

My grandson and my daughter and her husband and my husband, of course.

That was.

And that's what we like to do.

Yeah.

Just get the family.

I mean, I say to my daughter, come over to my house.

I'll cook.

I'm tired of your apartment.

She says.

Okay.

We'll go out.

All right.

But you're assured that you're loved and vice versa.

They know it.

Yeah.

If they don't know it, then I don't know what else to say.

All right.

So you think it's all performative?

Well, not all.

I mean, some people are comfortable with it.

But I never grew up with it.

It sounds ridiculous to me to constantly saying, I love you.

Oh, I wasn't saying it to my dad, but, you know, I think, you know, I just feel like generally

if I might think of it.

Yeah.

I guess it couldn't hurt.

I tried to emote a little bit more with my kids.

But if somebody said to me, I love you, when I was a kid, I would have said, what, what?

All right.

Fair enough.

What they said was, Joy, here, come downstairs to grandma's house.

She's got your favorite lozanya.

Yeah.

Well, let's go to Radio City Music Hall, they're having the rockets are going to be for

Christmas show.

What?

Let's go and we'll go to the House of Chan afterwards.

You know, that's what I experienced as a child.

Food was definitely how my family lived.

Food and culture, a little bit of culture, to go to the theater with my aunts and my mother.

Okay.

You know, I like that.

Yeah.

All right.

Here's something.

Congresswoman and former speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi did a wide-ranging interview

as she prepares to leave her over 40-year career in Congress.

She talked about hope for a female president and said that she knows it will happen, but

might not happen in her lifetime.

This has been a constant conversation on the view about whether America will be ready

for a female president.

What do you make of this?

You know, every other country, Israel had gold in my ear, India had in the Indira Gandhi.

The Brits had a Theresa...

The Margaret Thatcher.

Whatever, my name is Anne Margaret and Thatcher.

Yeah.

And you know, you can name others.

I mean, Mexico has a female president, Mexico.

So why not?

What is it with this country?

Today Whitney said something.

She said, men hate women.

I don't think men hate women.

I think that some men do.

And some men are threatened by women and they can't.

They've already passed on two highly qualified women in this country.

And I don't know what to say about that.

Do you see them like you go back and forth on this?

Obviously, we should, at some point, have a, I mean, they're more than half the population.

You mean, would I put one up in 2008?

Do you believe that America right now is capable of voting for a woman to win?

I don't know.

Yeah.

I really don't know.

Sad that you don't know.

Yeah.

Because the track record says no.

Right.

I mean, who's more qualified than Hillary Clinton?

Yeah.

The woman was the United States senator now, but they don't like black women.

They don't like black women either.

So I guess the question is, is there a woman in this country right now that you think

could get elected?

Michelle Obama comes up a lot.

She doesn't want the job.

No, I know, but could get that could win.

The hypothetical like that means nothing.

If the person doesn't want the job, why even bother talking about it?

Who wants the job?

Give me an example of a woman who wants the job.

Let me think.

Well, we know Nikki Haley did.

She's not, no, she's not getting it.

Who else?

Let's see.

Who else wants it?

Maybe Caroline love it.

Oh, God.

No, I mean, I think that's been the question.

Listen, if we were in a normal situation with a Republican, with integrity, a female Dwight

D. Eisenhower, I think she could get elected.

Okay.

I don't know if a liberal woman could get elected right now.

Here's a question for you.

Do you, is there one person right now because you go back and forth?

You fall in love with different potential candidates from time to time.

Yeah.

Is there one right now you think this is the, the Democrat people should get behind?

Well, there's a few.

I mean, my, my heart wants Gavin Newsom, because he appeals to the part of me that takes

them on and will not be bullied.

I like that about him.

Right.

Plus, you know, he's nice.

He's easy on the eyes.

Easy on the eyes.

Yeah, sure.

And he's got a nice head of hair.

Okay.

That's him.

He's got a guy from the South, kind of like a Bill Clinton type, which might appeal to

the more conservative group in the South.

And then there's, I love, I love Josh Shapiro.

And by the way, Jewish, can they elect a Jewish guy?

The anti-Semitism online right now is out of control.

It's really bad.

Very bad.

And you have him and you have Pritzker, two Jewish guys, with extremely holly qualified,

very well liked in their states.

I like it when we meet them here.

Great guys.

But who knows with the crazy anti-Semitism that's going on right now?

So I guess that's the question.

How much do you factor in the electability part of it in your life?

I do.

You do.

Yes, because I'm a practical thinker.

Right.

I'm pragmatic.

I want the country to function and to survive.

I don't want it to go down the toilet.

So I'm afraid for us if we put the wrong person there.

You know, you were asking before about a woman who would want to be president.

She didn't occur to me at the moment, but AOC is somebody that...

She can't win right now.

She's very popular.

I love her.

But I don't know.

Is she electable?

And I think she's electable as a governor, but I don't know about the whole country.

This country has many, many areas to pull this country together.

Look at what poor Abraham Lincoln had to go through to get this country together.

Now you're asking for one person to really do it again, because it's so divided.

Thank God you were by his side, Abraham Lincoln at that time.

No, he was great.

Yeah.

Abraham, he always picks up the check.

Really?

That's what I like about that.

That's about that.

Yeah.

The only thing he was splitting were logs.

Okay.

Sorry.

All right.

Let's get you take on this.

There was a story showing that a survey from the dating app, Hilly, says American women

see too many compliments early in dating as a red flag.

Oh, you don't like a compliment.

I know that about you.

They say that they think it's just a man trying to get them into bed.

Yeah.

Knowing you for 14 minutes, telling you that your perfect doesn't make sense, how do you

feel about that?

I agree with that.

Yeah.

Get it off my back.

Right.

It's up to you.

I love you.

I love you.

I love you.

What can a man say to you that you enjoy?

You don't want to hear.

I love you.

You don't want to hear how wonderful you are.

What's an appealing thing for you?

Let's go to a movie.

Okay.

And have to the movie.

Let's talk about the movie.

Okay.

So they can judge.

I can judge his intellect.

Oh.

That's really what it is.

You're really just doing an appraisal.

That's one way.

And whether I'm sexually attracted to the guy in the first place.

Of course.

So I don't need the compliments.

You know, just show me.

Okay.

What have you got?

Let's see what you got.

I heard of.

Do you?

What about later in your relationship?

Like now if Steve, if you wake up and you see Steve and he's like, you look great today.

He never ever says that.

He would never ever say that.

No.

No.

I have to say to him, how do I look?

How's my hair?

It looks good.

Yeah.

That's it.

Yeah.

He's not from that group.

You don't like compliments from me, generally.

If I tell you your hair looks good, the gene jacket is nice, then I get a, that's okay.

But anything else.

Yeah.

Like people come up to me and sometimes and they tell me, you know, oh, I love you.

I, you know, most people love this show that come up to me anyway.

Oh, that's good.

You know, I mean, we're getting, the audiences are really liking us lately more than ever.

They, and I, I'm in counter people constantly.

Keep it up.

Keep going after them.

Like, what he says, you're not alone, but it's true in a way.

They want us to keep speaking.

We're not a huge voice, but we're, we're somewhat of a voice.

You're a pretty big voice, I think.

You know, there's upwards of, you know, two and a half, three million people watching

the show every day.

They, they, they trust the show and they should because we're not making this stuff up.

No, no, you're giving your opinion, but you're not making it up.

We are.

Yeah.

Well, we obviously talked last week about the compliments you were receiving from the

man in the casino.

That story is taken off.

That's it, really?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

What do you mean?

I keep reading articles about it.

What are they saying?

They're just repeating the story and what you were saying.

Oh, my God.

Um, but, and what I was saying, but the, uh, you didn't seem interested in the compliments

there either.

No.

And also he's handing me a hundred dollar bill.

What am I?

A hooker?

Stop giving me the money.

I said, I have my own money.

Okay.

Keep your money.

Yeah.

I don't know if someone wants to slip me a hundred.

I'm on board.

It's fine.

Um, what about, one thing I do know you enjoy is when people laugh at your jokes.

Well, look, I'm a comedian.

Yes.

Huge laughs, by the way, in my first ex-husband, which will be in New Haven next.

Yes.

Big, big laughs.

That's great.

I mean, the audience comes in like in Massachusetts, by the way, there's a lot, they're

very smart.

That's a very smart state.

Mm-hmm.

It's what, it's probably the most liberal state in the country.

Maybe Vermont.

I don't know.

What?

Vermont, maybe?

No, no, no, no, no.

Well, the cows are very liberal up there.

Sure.

But in Massachusetts, the people are liberal.

But they were laughing and it was great to have to hear people laugh in these times when

there's every, the news is so dismal, it's really a pleasure.

Yeah, that's why I thought it was a fun show today.

We had some laughs.

We did.

Yeah.

It was a good time.

All right.

I got another hot topic for you.

Let's try this.

You talk a lot about your friends here at The View and there was this de-rabby story that

kind of caught my attention.

Someone wrote in and said, one of our co-workers does not, doesn't want to be a closer friend.

Even though at work, we say we love each other, get out the love.

You say?

Yeah.

We want to take the friendship to a deeper level, but she hesitates when we try to hang out

outside of one.

This is a one-sided situation.

Get over it.

The person that it was answering the de-rabby question, I guess, someone answering to

Abby.

Yeah.

Said, these girls are coming on too strong and that work in personal relationships are

not always interchangeable.

How do you feel about that?

I mean, you have interchangeable work in personal friendships.

I mean.

I like it varies.

Some days I love everybody and some days I don't.

Yes.

It has to do with my mood more than anything else I think.

Which is a very...

Like, today, today I love my girls, or my girls at the table.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah.

I even love you today.

Oh, I appreciate it.

Yeah.

And I love those girls.

Yeah.

And I love summer.

I love the bright guys and the joy boys.

Yeah.

And then some days I come in, everybody's on my last nerve.

Yes.

Everybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't even want to talk to you.

I just want to sit in the corner while you do the crossword puzzle.

What's interesting is that you feel comfortable with me even though we have the most adversarial

conversations.

I know.

That is weird.

What do you think that is?

Well, because I don't know.

There's something about me that makes you feel safe with me.

I guess so.

Why?

You tell me.

I don't know.

Well, what if you know?

If I knew, I would tell you.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Take a guess.

Yes.

No, every once in a while, I feel like it's a little bit of a cocoon in your office.

I don't know what that is.

I feel like a little...

I feel safe there.

I know.

I do.

I also know you don't want anything from me.

I don't really.

That might be what it is.

Oh.

When I'm in your office, I'm asking you for things.

I'm asking you to do things or not do things.

What do people ask you to do?

Oh, like, you know, I don't know.

Plug something or you do that.

I do that.

You can do it anyway.

Yeah.

All right.

Oh, I saw this.

Yes.

I did want to talk about this because this was a highlight of this week's weekend view,

which is always a highlight.

And if you're not watching it, tune in.

But Doja Cat and you have the same hair apparently.

Apparently.

You're apparently maybe distantly related.

I think we have to figure this out because this is fantastic.

I don't know which one is which.

I think...

I think that's you.

But that is me.

Look at this.

Yeah.

But it's the same hairdo.

Yeah.

And somebody spotted that.

Yeah.

And then they put her body, though.

It's not my body.

No, it's not.

I don't have those boobies.

Or the tattoo.

Or the tattoo.

They droopy like mine, though, which I enjoy.

But I don't have a tattoo.

No.

But it is my face.

It's not the tattoo.

It's basically you.

That's pretty good.

Somebody gave that to me in a frame.

I think it's hilarious.

Are you familiar with Doja Cat?

No.

What does she say?

Yes.

She's a great singer.

Very popular.

Really?

Yes.

I think you'd enjoy it.

Do people speak to call her Doja?

Yeah.

I guess we're Cat.

Mrs. Cat?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think Doja Joy is pretty good.

Well, that's very nice.

Yeah.

You know, that's it.

There you go.

I mean, it's a good picture of me, too.

It's a great picture of you.

Yeah.

She's got some work done.

We got to find out if Rose is doing her hair on the side.

Yeah.

She's got a sidekick.

All right.

Thank you for joining me today, Joy.

Tomorrow, I'll be back with Sarah Haynes.

That'll be fun.

And if I haven't mentioned it, have I mentioned the Webby Award?

I think I have.

Don't forget to vote for our Webby.

The link is in the description.

Settle in because I'm bringing this up every episode.

Let's do it.

Get her done, folks.

Yeah.