January 7th 2026

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1:01Don Taylor, along with Rick Donnie wall. Ryan Henderson is our producer. He's the man that the controls are director. The voice of God is Derek Wang. How are you? Oh, I couldn't be better. Connects losing five, three in Buffalo. Yeah. Connects have lost four straight, one, four and two in their last seven, eight points. Out of the playoff spot. All those people that want to rebuild and the connects don't say rebuild. They're doing it anyways. They're in 31st place. They are accidentally doing it anyways. They don't need to say rebuild. Don, they are basically rebuilding with every loss. Every time there are 31 or 32 in the league, they're rebuilding. They're doing it accidentally. Well, we'll see what happens. They're not doing it. We'll see what happens with key for sure. But then we'll see what happens with key for sure. And then we'll go from there. Exactly. I don't know what to expect. Well, okay, so let's get to the highlights and then we'll talk about some of the problems that Connects are having.

2:01We're good? Good. Rock and roll, Derek. Here we go. Key bank, center, Buffalo, New York. Pick it up two minutes in. Tage Thompson. Unmarked in the slot. He's 21st. And it's one nothing for the swordsman. Connects then going to par play key for sure. It's rare gaff, coughs up the puck. And away goes Alex. Tuck two on one. Short handed. Tuck over to Ryan McLeod. He beats that to Demko. The sabers in the old school blue with the golden white trim up to nothing. Born Byram had a strong game from Buffalo on the right side. With five Vancouver skaters watching. Backhand feet to Alex Tuck. Top shell for Mum. Keeps the wings. Three nothing for the Connects. Expansion Cussets. Zach Manson made it four nothing. And that's the way it stayed until Midway through the third Connects. Four minute par play. Banging away. And right there. Take the press. His 11th. Four one. Connects on the board. Five minutes later. Again. Connects attack. Puck finds its way to Elias Patterson. E.P. 40. Spinning. Shoot it. His guard. And scoring while wearing Max Lapierre's old number 40.

3:01Also his 11. Suddenly it's four two. Connects get another. Thirty nine seconds later, Rick. Liam Openshot is blocked. He gets the puck back. Takes a shot and scores. Four three. Connects in shocking fashion within one. But that's his cause. As they come. Minute and a half left. Demko pole. Josh Dohn from deep in his own and long bomb that locates the gaping. Six by four. Josh Dohn has 13 goals, Rick. Connects lose five three and Buffalo at Detroit on Thursday. Your thoughts? Well, they got two contracts. You mentioned Dohn and the kid from Chilliwack Benson. They got to do and tuck. Friend of the show. The tuck was so good to watch last night. You can now see wise agents asking for over 10 million year. The connect's been trying to get tucked for years. I believe his wife's white rock. But I mean, I'm just saying. But anyways, to make a long story short. Short. Those young guys in Buffalo are pretty impressive. You know, that was really good for the sabers. A lot of players, but good for the sabers last night.

4:03And after just a horrible start. They're having a pretty impressive season. Their 10 game win streak was snapped on the weekend by a Columbus. They've now won 11 of 12. 12. But Bowen Byram. Oh. Former Vancouver giant. Oh. You saw what he did on the setup to Alex. Talk on that goal we saw in the highlights there. But there was talk he was going to. He was going to leave Buffalo. Well, there was talk. Vancouver tried hard last year to get Bowen Byram. And I'll tell you, the guy in Vancouver that loves Bowen Byram more than anyone else is Jim Rutherford. Well, how could you not love? Byram played for Pittsburgh? Uh, Jess. He's 24. Dohn. He's 24. Stan Lee Coppe. He'd be a top pair, a left shot defenseman of Vancouver. Uh, it connects tried hard to get Bowen Byram last year. Like really, really hard. But, uh, it was the price was too costly. And this is when they still had Quinn Hughes. Exactly. And that was part of the thinking I remember. He's going to be gone. He's Quinn Hughes. And you'll have to have, uh, Bowen Byram. Bingo. Bingo. He was, uh, pretty impressive. So, uh, a couple of things. Uh, number one. Uh, this is no surprise.

5:03What are the, uh, the 30th, 30th poorest defensive record in the national hockey league in terms of, uh, goals against per game. I think I've, I've got that right. But just their defensive coverage was just awful. And, uh, well, there was the shirt has opened for a while. There was three of the four goals. Uh, Marcus Patterson here on, on Tage Thompson. Sorry, that's, that's, that's too, uh, soft against the very, very good hockey player, a dangerous player, a big player who's going to the Olympics. In number, uh, 72 and you're lucky number program, uh, Tage Thompson. That just, you can't happen. Can't leave a guy like that, uh, open. Not in the middle of the eye. And then this is the goal that I was talking about. Bull and Byron, right side. They had five players watching. Watching. That's, that's minor hockey stuff, Rick. That's, that's beer league stuff. And, uh, Tuck, uh, uh, Bull and Byron takes advantage. And obviously, Alex Tuck does as, as well. And then, do we have the other, uh, goal here, Ryan? The fourth goal here. Uh, uh, Vandercane just tapping the, uh, you know, uh, who is it here?

6:05That's, that's course. Sorry. Um, anyway, just very, very lax on, on defense. And same with Lee's pedestal on here. So a lot of problems here. Um, they were the connects defensively. And that's the, by the way, that's Buffalo's fourth line. Yeah. That's, that was Metsa that scored there. Sorry. It's his first any trouble. That's Buffalo's third, a fourth line, third pair on the ice. That's Vancouver's top line. Donnie, it all boils down, uh, being hard to play against. And it being a hard check, uh, checking team. They're not a hard checking team. And this is evidence right here. And, and when you see, uh, that, it's going to, it reminds me of, when I see that, it reminds me of, um, our poll question, which we're going to bring up a little bit later. And why, uh, poll question. Uh, you just have to be stiffer and stronger on defense, especially when you're losing a harder to play again. Yeah. You know, uh, protect the middle of the ice. They always say the most important, uh, ice is the middle of the ice. And you saw teach Thompson. He started right in front of the net in the slot. No one touched them. That your dimco hasn't been that your dimco recently.

7:07His last, uh, five, five, they just had 15. What, uh, they were a shot last night. The, you know, the sabers wrote shot, uh, by the connox, uh, 35, 20. So 15 saves for that your, uh, dimco. He's lost his last five starts and I believe his save percentage is eight, six, eight. So, um, not, not not great. What do you see? Not, not good, not good, not good. But you just showed defensive breakdown after defensive breakdown. That doesn't help goal tenders either done. That doesn't help goalies when you're coughing up goals like that. No, it's been two or three weeks now. The defensive play's been really bad. And the goalies pay the price for that too. Uh, seven, eight, nine, save percentage last night for, uh, that your dimco. Again, they were out, uh, the sabers outshot yet they still managed to, to win in rather convincing fashion, other than the, uh, the middle of the, of the third period. Yeah, they got four goals and 16 shots. That's not good. No. So a dimco eight, nine and one, save percentage of nine, oh, two. I don't mean to pick on the guy, but I'm just throwing out some stats here. Nine, oh, two, save percentage. That's twenty eighth of the league, uh, two, seven, nine goals against average.

8:10Twenty-seventh in the league and his contract hasn't. Uh, uh, and, but donnie, when you're playing for the 31st place team in the NHL, what does that tell you? Most goalies don't do well on 31st place teams. Okay, but there are goal tenders who save the day. Yes, I agree for their, for their team. He's had a tough stretch last two, three weeks. No question. He's got good stretches. Now he's going through a bad one. Tyler Myers, there's all sorts of talk about, uh, him possibly moving on. Uh, you've been working the phones. What are you hearing? Okay. First of all, I still see people thinking Tyler Myers is going to wave his no move. I see articles. I saw one today. Oh, is Tyler Myers going to wave? I don't see it happening. In fact, his agent, JP Barry gets mad at me when I ask him. Uh, it's not happening. Myers took 1.5 million less to get the comfort of a no move for his family and himself. Um, he was days away from July 1st. Remember they signed in Vegas at the draft and in a few days away, he was going to hit the market. And he was going to get a bigger pay payday, Donnie. He said no to the bigger payday.

9:11I want to go back to Vancouver. He took less from the connox for the no move. I also hear the connox are telling. Can I just jump in? Go ahead. Go ahead. At some point, even if you've agreed to a contract like that, yeah, sorry, sorry to interrupt here. Yeah. Has, you know, do you not want to win at some point? He's got a family. A young family. I can't, I can't. He's got a house in Kelowna. You got to understand the key thing I said here is he took less money days away on July 1st for the comfort of a no move. You can't change your mind though. He loves Vancouver. If he knew that Colorado was interested in him, would he not be interested in it? He loves Vancouver. He loves Kelowna. He loves British Columbia. He doesn't want to. He doesn't want to go. I'm telling, I'm telling you, I also, that's a long commute. No, but I also hear the connox are telling teams that they're not moving Myers and look. Tom Lander said last week, how important Myers has been to him in terms of his growth and helping him out in his rookie campaign, the connox are very young undefensed. So what do you want to do, Don?

10:11You want to get younger? Do you want to bring in a fourth guy from Abby under the age of 22 on the connox blue line? You don't have a veteran like Myers who is a good leader. It can help guys like Willander. You're going to keep him. I'm just telling you right now, I've been told this morning, as of today, there's no way he's waving. So you know what? All these fantasy articles and all this fantasy stuff, and I've been told the connox are telling teams. Just to play Devils Advocate at some point, even if you've agreed to deal with that, I would think you'd want to stand like up ring on your stand like up title. But you're asking me. The other thing from the connox point of view, you talk about all you want. You want to make sure you keep the veterans around school, the young players, they're young on defense, Don. But what? You got a 20 year old. 20 year old. It's okay. But what if you have a chance to move Tyler Myers, and I'm with you, I have nothing but respect for him. Oh, yeah. Even when he was getting dumped on when he had the larger contract, I still, his effort level was never inquired and coach multiple coaches, lots of ice times, but what if you

11:12could unload him and get a decent package with the future in mind in return? You'd have to think about it. He's also older. What package you get, Don? He's not 29. He's not 28, 27 anymore. This guy is 34, 35. I mean, he's getting up there. And, I mean, look at, one thing about Tyler, he's still skating. You know, those tall guys with big feet, they get weeded out. Well, you know what I'm talking about, big skates, probably got a size 14. Those guys get weeded out with their foot speed. You know what? Tyler Myers is still an incredible skater at the NHL level. He keeps doing that. He's going to keep playing in the NHL, but unlike most tall guys and big feet and big skates, he's not. He has this obsession with tall guys with big feet. I'm telling you guys with big boots, they have foot speed issues. You know that. You were in minor hockey. You see the kid inside. Well, you had a kid who had a kid. Yeah. Yeah. And I still didn't invent them. But what I'm trying to get that from, those guys have foot, foot speed issues. And the fact that Tyler's skating is still elite, he's, I've always been impressed with

12:14the skating. He's given his size. He's given his size. Thank you. Jake DeBrusque. Jake DeBrusque. There's rumors out there about DeBrusque and the Oilers, but Donnie, I was told the Oilers and DeBrusque may be home town in the summer, his home town, right? Home town. I was told maybe in the summer, but right now it's tough to get, he's got no move to. The other thing is all the connoct, all these guys want the connox to trade players. The problem is all these players that are tradable, got no moves. And they got trade, and they got trade protection, galore, it's, you know, Lincoln and move Lincoln. He's not moving. He's got no move. He's not going anywhere. The Lincoln is not going. Look at JT Miller. It can happen, right? It can, if it's forced and it's really bad. JT did not want to leave. He didn't sign here for seven years to get traded two years later. He signed here for seven years because he wanted to be here seven years, but there was a fight with another superstar player. I'm not kidding, Matt. No, I'm not kidding, Matt, but I, he didn't want to leave. I was told, I don't get the sense that this, DeBrusc wants out. What size did DeBrusc feed? He's another big kid.

13:15He can still skate. You wanted to talk about the Abbots for connox in their problems these days. Did you see last night? You, you, you were fascinated with this Tony last night. They only had 10 forwards. Seven of their top 10 goal scores are injured. One guy, Lucas Raichel, is sick. I think he's got what do you call it, done? A bug? Sure. Styrus. Styrus, something like that. He's sick. So, one guy is sick. Seven guys are hurt. Lakeromaki did skate on Monday in a no contact, Jersey. So I think Lakeromaki's not too far away, but I'm telling you, the connox have been hit, hard, Abbersburg's been hit just as hard. By the way, Abbersburg's in 30th place in the American Hockey League. Connox are in 30th place. Matching the connox. That cover connox. And they're 4-9 into at home, don't. Attendance is dwindling in Abbersburg. I don't know if you see highlights. I don't see many. Well, compared to the playoffs this year. But it's a Tuesday night. A Tuesday night's bad for junior hockey.

14:16A Tuesday night's bad for the American League. It's a Friday, Saturday, a league, right? People are going to work the next day. Yeah, exactly. It's, it's, it's, it's that. But Abbersburg's having a tough time. They, they gutted it out last night. They lost, but they did out-shoot their opposition, Bakersfield. Okay. I don't have time for the Adam Foot Clip, do we? No. All right. Boy, this is an exciting day on Donnie Dole. Every day is exciting, but especially today we have two hockey gurus on today. Oh, big time. Okay. I'll run, run down. I'll run down. DTMC, is it just me coming up in the 11 o'clock hour Craig Button is going to join us just after 11. Back home in Calgary, is in Calgary, Ryan, from, from Minnesota, and where he was covering the World Junior Championships Canada winning a bronze there. We'll talk to Craig about the state of the Canadian hockey, which, of course, everybody is concerned about a bronze medal, and that's it over the last three years. At the world of the juniors, I get his impressions on Gavin McKenna as well.

15:16Big ride, the critical guy later this hour. And up next, talk about gurus in the game of hockey, Olympic, head coach, no, probably Olympic assistant coach in four Olympics. We recorded this interview, and I mentioned two Olympics that he was in. It's actually four. But Ken Hitchcock is going to join us, or 1600 games as an NHL head coach, and Ken is going to go, he's going to wax eloquent on the state of Canadian hockey right now, and how to construct an Olympic roster. He is a lot of fun to talk to. So much. I had coached the countless places, so Ken Hitchcock, Hitch is next. Thanks so much for tuning in, folks. Donnie and Donnie, the team won't check. Donnie and Donnie, the team is supported by AbleOntions.ca, closing your business, we can help. AbleOxion specializes in helping British Columbia-based business owners close their business and sell

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17:18I'm good, guys. How's things going in Vancouver? Very, very well. Hey, John Cooper. We just mentioned 1600 games as an NHL over 1600 games. As an NHL head coach for you, we see John Cooper last night getting honored for coaching 1000 games with the Tampa Bay Lightning. What's his gift as a head coach? He really inspires the players. He's a big fan of the players and players really appreciate that and I think there's coaches that are motivators and there's coaches that inspire and he's one of those guys that inspires, which for me shows how long lasting he's going to be. He's going to be in the game as long as he really wants to be honest with you. Okay. And also, Ken, of course, you're well aware of this situation. He's going to be in charge of Canada's Olympic team in Italy as he was at the Fornations at tournament. What's the best way to construct an Olympic roster?

18:19Well, I was in four Olympics and we learned a lot of valuable lessons. The number one lesson we learned, guys, was don't sit on chemistry. If it's not there, change quick. We learned those lessons in 02, the lineup that we put together at the end of the 02 games was so different than what we'd planned and we learned a lesson that if it's not there right away, it's not going to show up and you're better off moving quickly and you look at who would have thought Bergeron would have been the right winger for Sid. We had lots of combinations that we planned, but once the chemistry wasn't there, we moved quickly and it allowed us to find new sources that were effective to be honest with you. Ken, do you agree with the people who talk about who say, we have to take your penalty killers.

19:19You have to take your grinders over players who were, say, top 10 in the scoring race. No, I don't agree with that at all. I think that you take the best players and they'll find their role and they'll sacrifice they'll check for two and a half weeks they'll check like crazy and you know, there's a group of athletes that are two way players that are effective in both ends of the rank, but specialists, it becomes really restricted at the end because the teams are so good in playing so well, you need a lot of threats to score goals in my opinion and you've got to have people that are confident in both ends of the rank, not just one end of the rank. Hey, Ken, look at the other countries for me catching up to Canada. I look at the Americans every year in the draft and the NHL draft, they got six, seven guys going in the first round. They got the US development program. You saw it for nations.

20:20Other countries are catching up, Ken. Well, you know what they're catching up dollars, they're catching up systems wise more than anything. There's really only one country left Latvia that plays that cautious system that was so frustrating to play against. They've got five guys in the neutral zone, but everybody else is banging bodies and poor check and hard. You look at the fins, you look at the suites, look at the checks, they're really aggressive playing now. We're not only getting caught from a talent standpoint, we're getting caught on a system standpoint. These teams have changed the way they play and it's made them very, very effective and it's made the games spend most of the time in one zone or the other, whereas five, six, 10 years ago, the game was played in the neutral zone when you played a European country. Ken, how did you tackle an Olympic year as a coach? Look at the injuries this year in the NHL.

21:21Look at the crazy schedule, teams like Vancouver, the most traveled team in the NHL, it's tough on these guys sometimes, but how did you tackle an Olympic season? You know what, we gassed practices and our practices were our pre-game skates. Our focus was on pre-game skates and we ran in a little bit longer and we had some contact in the pre-game skates, but we didn't practice on the off days. So if you're playing on a Tuesday and Thursday, Wednesday was a day off, the players stayed away or we had an off-ice workout, but we tried to keep them off the ice as much as we could, but then we incorporated drills and routine drills in the pre-game skate. It wasn't a usual pre-game skate. We had five on five play, a little bit of down low, we didn't do it long, but we really focused on the day of the game skates.

22:22Ken, no goal for Canada at the World Junior is, you know what happens, we got to have a summit, what's going on, everybody expects a goal for Canada at the World Junior's, where do you think Canadian hockey is right now, just the feeder systems, the academies, junior hockey and all that stuff? Well, think about this, if we had even half of the guys that are in the NHL, it's a white wash, and we would have dominated it, we've got a lot of dominant 19-year-old players that are playing the NHL right now, I think again, the same thing, the countries have changed the way they play, and it's not that they don't show us any respect anymore, it's that they've gone to this aggressive hybrid system that we play, and they've become effective play in that way, and I think they've learned from us from not just a talent pool standpoint,

23:26but a tactics and technical standpoint, and they're starting to catch up because of it, so I think the one thing that really stood out in the tournament though, guys, was the best team towards the end of the tournament defensively was Sweden. So no matter what you've got offensively, you still have to manage the puck, manage the game, and you still got to be really have great continuity defensively in your own zone, or you're going to get beat by anybody, and we played a game that was exciting as hell to watch, but there were risks in the play in that way, and we got caught on the risks. Talking with Ken Hitchcock, Ken, given what you saw at the World Juniors, and I don't know how much you've seen of him in college hockey and in junior hockey, but what do you believe is in Gavin McKenna's future? Well, I think he's going to be a great player. I mean, you see, he's 17 years old playing like that in that tournament, I think he's going

24:31to be a tremendous player, he's got vision, and ability, and a shot, and he's got all the offensive tools. I think the big decision is a little bit like Vidard, to be honest with you, is how quick can he learn the 200-foot part of the game, is he capable of finding that game quickly so that he can become a go-to guy and not have to learn the hard lessons in the NHL that you do? But if he learns the 200-foot game quickly, his talent level has strength, his tenacity is going to really be impressive for me, but he's going to have to learn that part of the game quickly because it doesn't matter what you do skill-wise. If you don't do that, the coaches in the NHL don't trust it, and they won't play it. Connect fans are interested in him, need us to say. And by the way, Rick spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on his kids at academies, he's got cash to burn, no Ken Lai.

25:33We brought this up earlier about the academies, things have changed from when I was involved in minor hockey, when you were involved in minor hockey, I would think, are you a fan of the academies, the elite programs? Well, I've come from a minor hockey background, so I'm community-league, minor hockey, and athletic clubs, and then on to junior hockey, so I still believe in that system, but to me, what the academies are, in your, they have the same thing that comes in sports schools, and the kids come and spend the summer at these sports schools, and they specialize whether it's hockey, or basketball, or ski jumping, or whatever, they specialize in that, and really what the academies are, are sports schools, and I'm always being this believer that very few percentage of the kids make it, so they might as well have an enjoyable

26:34experience and play with their friends, and their friends happen to live in the community, and to me, playing for your community, playing for the association, whether it was the so-sided athletic club, or Canadian athletic club, Maple Leafs, Knights of Columbus here, was really an important event, and I think we've lost a little bit of that with these sports schools, but they've gained notoriety as far as being able to develop athletes of all kinds of sports. Ken, I got to ask you about this player as well, because he wowed everybody on the weekend. How much of Matthew Schaefer have you seen, and what, what makes him special? Well, I've seen a lot of him, and he's fearless, first of all, he, he, he, he reminds me of where Connor was at earlier this career. He's a reckless player, and there might be an injury or two because of it, but he is

27:39absolutely fearless on some of the stuff he does. The other thing that impresses me is he snips out the other team's weakness, and he attacks it right away. In every game you see him play, when he sees an opening, he hits it hard, and that's the guy that really has a sense of timing for me, and he's a, he's a, he's a generational player. He's a once in a lifetime watch, and can you imagine what this kid's going to be liking two or three years? He's going to be totally dominant, and you know, you're, you're fortunate that we're going to get to watch a player like him, Celebrini's, a special player also, but we're really fortunate that we've got a lot of good young players coming in and leading now. Then Don and I went to Ernie Punch McLean's 93rd birthday a few weeks ago. The Camloup's new ass games and Queens Park legend stuff, let stuff of legends, and but Ernie turned 93 a few weeks ago.

28:40Yeah, he is so impressive for me, and you know, he, he comes down every time I was coaching he'd come down in the locker room after the game and say hello, and we'd visit for half an hour. I saw him up in the press boxes when I was watching the game in Vancouver when we were in there with St. Louis, so to me, he, he's just a special guy like a, he defies description because for what he's done in his life and the accidents and, and the steps to be alive and kicking is so impressive. And Ken, for people who don't know, what are you up to these days? I work for St. Louis, I've worked for, for a few years now, I, I, I've mostly worked with the coaching staffs of the American League and the NHL, and I, I, I kind of deal with the NHL team post game next day stuff. And then we meet once a week with the American League coach Steve Garner, Walchuk, and go

29:43over things that he needs to work on in that week. So it's, I stay out of the personnel guys, but I, I'm really focused on the tactics and the technical part of the game and trying to help the coach understand and, and for drills that'll enhance some of the things that we need to work on. We could go on and on, Ken. This has been just absolutely fabulous. You look great. Thanks so much for this, my friend. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, guys. You bet. Hockey Hall of Famer, interesting what he said about roster construction there. He'd take the best players and make them check for two weeks, and they would check for, for two weeks. Maybe not every single NHL game, but for two, two and a half weeks, he thinks they would do that. Yeah, he just don't take all the top point getters on every team, but that's what he say. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, it's rules and identities. There's a lot of, think about, both question will deal with that next to any, until I join the team. I'll check.

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31:45Come sit and stay at the Waddling dog today. What happened? Ryan, get her up the Waddling, Ryan, oh, did I burp? Our Waddling dog, pool question, who should the connex next healthy scratch be? Look at this, Bessir Cain or somebody else. This is close in terms of the top two guys. 49% say Bessir, so I'm going to give you some Bessir numbers, no goal of 17 games, one goal of 24 games. Bessir Cain has not done much all season long, I think he stuck at six goals, 44% say Cain, and then 7% say other, and another other I can throw at you is Neil's whole glender. Since his return from injury dawn, nine games, no points, fourth line, he got to raise up to $3 million this year, so something's going on with whole glender, they got to find a way to frame to click, but he's a skilled guy who wants top six ice, and he's stuck on the fourth line. And almost 600 votes already as we posted a little late this morning.

32:45Bessir leading this pool with the numbers again, one goal in 24 games, no goals in 17 games. But I do want to say he wasn't 100% during this 24 games, there was a week or two where he was battling something, but I do believe he's healthy now. You say that and you throw out those numbers, and yet a couple of assists yesterday, did you watch the broadcast yesterday, but in a chance, yeah, he was minus three, he was minus three, also named Player of the Game, what by the sports that people are he serious Bessir? Yes, so they looked at the couple of assists, two assists and named a player of the game. Wow, yeah, just I throw that out there. And everybody, honestly, just the way he's conducted himself, throw his time in Vancouver, and you know, there was a 40 goal season there, just so much promise at the start of his career. There's a contract that the connox have to worry about, so many people pulling for him, but tough times right now for Brock, and he would admit that.

33:46Yeah, absolutely, and he's struggling right now, there's no question. He said it in an interview a week ago, Don, he said, you know what, I got to be better, I got to be better, he's getting paid $7 million to score goals, and he's not scoring goals right now, not even close. And I think he, but especially of Andrew Cain, defensively, there's so much, there's so much improving to be done, and I think a better effort could be made there for not just for those two, but a lot of the players, but the defensive efforts certainly sticks out. And I'm going to say this, and you're going to, you're going to get mad, but in Bessir's defense, who's the centerman? They traded his favorite centerman, J.T. Miller, they had great chemistry. That's offensively. Just, Don, I'm talking back to his numbers. He's got Maxison, great kid, as a second-line center. Centrumman's job in the top six is to get the puck to the wingers, so the, the wingers can score. That's not happening. That's not happening. And Maxison, great kid, but he's a straightaway player.

34:46He's not a seed. Oh, and they'll tell you that, that that's the number one problem. So you think the professor has a player has to take the bull by the horns himself. You think a $7 million winger with a $1 million centerman makes sense on any level, Don? If I'm making $7 million a year, this is all due respect to Brock. I look in the mirror and say, hey, this is on me. I do. That's just the kind of person I am. They traded his favorite centerman. They traded him. They decimated the center-rights position. Move over. That. Horvette. Miller's gone. I get that. I get that. Brock Besser, if he was in this room right now, would tell himself, no, this is on me. I've got to do something about this. Why is it he scoring a ton of goals on the power play then? What's up? Yeah. Why is it he scoring a ton of goals? No one's scoring on the power play right now. Yeah, I know, but he's playing with the best players on the team. There was a two-week stretch where the bottom six guys were outscoring the top six guys

35:49for the connox. How can that be? They're playing with, they're not playing with the top. They don't have the skill up here or talent. The Brock Besser should not have Maxas on as a centerman. I just, I think that's common sense. All coaches put top six wingers with top six centers who are skill centers. So anybody's having problems in the national hockey, it has to do with who they're playing with. No. No, stop it. I mean, why do the connox give them $7 million to score? Then they put them with a $1 million centerman. Come on. But part of that, the reason they would give him decent money, which is nowhere near what Patterson is getting, by the way, that's a subject for another day is that they believe he can do, he can make things happen himself. He's not a play driver. No, he's not. But he is, he is somebody who is a sniper, good around the net, good along the boards, good playmaker. We saw the two assists yesterday, but all that hasn't been there recently. Yeah. And he tell you that himself. No way. He did in an interview. He said, I got to be better. There's no question. But man, how, putting Sassan with him at center is-

36:49Oh my God. What is- What do you have against him? Okay. Do you think Max Sassan's a top six center Don? No. Okay. Thank you. End of conversation. Top six- So that's the number one reason Brock Bester is having trouble right now. He's Max Sassan. I'm not saying it's Max. I'm just saying it would be nice if he's- Maybe Max Sassan is having trouble because he's playing with Brock Bester. No player would say that. It's your agent. He's got to be better. He's got to be better. Bottom line. But he also needs a centerman who can get him to park. He's a skilled shooter. He's got hockey sense. He's not getting to the right areas of the ice. He's not getting to park. But that Ryan makes a good point. What about on the power play? None of them are scoring on the power play. But you're playing with better player- Superior offensive players with offensive talent on the power play. Where's the production there? Well, other in Nebraska. Need one other forward who can score on the power play. He- Well, they're paying a guy 11.6 million dollars a season. Yeah. Who should be doing- He's got a really nice goal last night. He should be doing that.

37:49I agree. OK. And as for a van der Kaine, like I look, you mentioned the six goals fine. It's what's happening in his own end. That fly by last night. The fly by last watch. That was not good. But I- You know what his problem is? He's on the same team as Max's son. That's the van der Kaine. Yes, stop, Don. But the Kaine has not been a good fit from the day he arrived in Vancouver. There are times when I really like- Not a good fight. I love that he shoots the puck from anywhere. I like that. That might be- Might be about it. I love his size. He's the only hard skill that got in the top six. He has not been a fit with this hot- Hello, what? The only hard skill in the top six. Yeah. So name me one other hard skill guy. We've seen him in a van der Kaine be a real hard player. OK, but he brings size. He brings- He goes to the dirtier areas. What does he do with that? Oh, he can show grit when he wants to. But again, have we seen it at all? No.

38:50Not a consistent basis. The best thing about a van der Kaine is that he's having disappointing season so far. Again, he would tell you that. It's one year deal. He's also not- He's also not a shot. Yeah, spring chicken anymore. He's 35. Missed the entire regular season last year, Don. He's had injuries, playoff runs, and he's coming to Vancouver. So he's been great. What are you saying? The connection to thought about this when they acquired him, he didn't play in the regular season last year. He's only playing the playoffs. It still makes absolutely no sense. No sense, oh, why they've bailed out a division rival in their cap situation to bring him here. And I know why they did. You know why? Why? Because the owner of that team is obsessed with a van der Kaine. He tried to get him in the past. He's tried to get him in the past. And he's a fan. He's a fan. Right. And he's a hometown kid. But why is he an owner? Today, we get the news that Pew Souter represents Switzerland at the end of the Olympics. He's a good player. And they keep, probably, they acquire Kaine and then Souter goes off to St. Louis.

39:50They let Souter walk. The Dvorak told him to hit the road. They then turned around to spend $11 million on Besser and Kaine. Make that make sense. I've got business. OK. Check out the upcoming auctions at Abel Auctions. Rick, did you know there are title sponsors? Oh, the Great Disguise in the world. January 13th, the Walnut Vancouver Restaurant and Port Moody Micro Burry. January 14th, hundreds of pieces of commercial fitness equipment. The problem with that fitness equipment company, you know what problem was? Maxis on works. January 15th, the 45,000 square foot fabrication plant in Woodshop featuring a near-new piranha iron work and dozens of welders. Finally, January 16th, over 1,000 lots of restaurant equipment, including a whole-bart legacy mixer. There it is. Rick, that mixer. Looks like an egg-beater. Egg-beater, it's not. It's too big to be an egg-beater. Remember the old-school manual egg-beater?

40:51Yeah, with the hand, and you just twirl it around and around. Yeah, use your feet, too. For information on these auctions and many more, go to Abel Auctions.ca, A-B-L-E auctions, dot C-A, crack button back from Minnesota. Top of the hour, up next, Donnie Dulley, the team. All right, big ride. Donnie Dulley, the team, I check. Let's hit it big ride, the critical guy, again, Craig Button back from Minnesota, top of the hour. Yes. OK, off the hockey path for a second. News under the BC Lions, I wanted to mention, because this is a good guy. Sean White, announced yesterday, Sean White contracted extension with the Lions through 2026. He's going to remain kicking for the Leos. 40 years old, I think I have that right? Yeah, they have a long, or not long line, but a history of players, kickers, who last into the 40s.

41:53Paul McCallum and Louis Passaglia. Yeah. Louis, of course, we go back to Empire with Louis, you and I. SFU. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. High school. Sean White was part of there. I think it's an arrow-up series when they follow the players behind the scenes. Yeah. Really good stuff. He's talking about his kicks, you know, parks and stuff in the off season. I think with his dad, his dad was in the episode as well. Really good stuff. So Sean White, a contract extension, we should mention moments ago, the Lions also announcing Robert Carter Jr. has been released by the BC Lions, outstanding rookie nominee for the Lions, because he's going to pursue an NFL opportunity. And apparently, according to three downation, he was worked out by the Denver Broncos in early December. So whether or not he signs with the Broncos or not, with the Lions releasing Robert Carter Jr., him of the infamous one-handed interception against Hamilton. Yeah, that was a great catch. Well, it's infamous for Hamilton, but not for him. It's also infamous because it was one of the examples Stuart Johnson used in his exposé of a why they should move the goalposts.

42:58Because for TV, he was behind the goalposts. Well, it's infamous for that. Do you know what infamous means? Yeah. Like known for. Become famous for. Yeah. In a negative way. Yeah. What would it mean? Well, infamous. Yeah. Woodley would be infamous for. I don't want to, I don't want to explain it. You didn't know that right? Infamous is a negative connotation. Infamous. He's infamous for. Yeah. But I didn't always say, it's not really a negative thing. You think? Yeah, it is. It is? Yeah. OK, well, known for then, I don't like doing this because I'm sounding like I'm speaking to you. You are. Pedestal here. Yeah. But I also am not over the conference for that. You're right. It would say that that's the worst part of it for you. But spectacular. And I've done just the interceptions. Yeah. Spectacular interceptions. It'll only add one. I can't remember the college you went to. But there was one. Yes. The college that made every top 10 list. Yes. Yes. I think it's last year of American college football. I want to say that. What an athlete and best of luck to him.

43:59And I imagine if things don't work out down there, back up becomes to the Lions. Yeah, exactly. The college one, I think, was that boyzier something? Because I think the blue field was. You know what? I think part of the clip. I think you're right. Yeah. It was a different clip. It was a different field. So I think it was. Anyway, you know what? You know bothers me right now. Now you're down to yourself? No, no, there's that. But also we're going to get 700 texts. Oh, yeah. About infamous. About the meeting of infamous. I just didn't know it was purely linked to being a negative thing. But anyway, here you go. Having an notorious, very bad reputation, known for something evil, disgraceful, or wicked. Yeah. I think for the wrong reasons. Well, known for some bad quality or deed. My bad then. Apologies. You're infamous for that. Yeah, I guess so. Okay, moving on here. Speaking of the NFL, we got to talk about this. Bit shocking. Yesterday. John Harbaugh out fired. I don't know if he was actually fired

44:59because some reports say parting of the ways mutually agreeing to part ways. Other places said he was fired. Well, get out. What I've heard is that my sources indicate that he was backing his coaching staff and not everybody in upper management was in favor of that. So they wanted to make changes to his coaching staff, probably. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, he's gone. He's out. He was there from 2008 to 2025. It's a good run. 18 seasons as an NFL head coach. One guy very upset with this is Hall of Famer, former NFL head coach himself, Tony Dungey, tweeting out, I can't believe what things have come to in the NFL. John Harbaugh coached the Ravens for 18 years, as we mentioned. Took them to the playoffs 12 times. Super Bowl. Last four years, they went 10 and 7, 13, 4, 12 and 5, 8 and 9. They missed the playoffs. Three straight years and missed this year because their kicker missed the game. When he fielded, go on the last play of the season and he was fired. I'm sorry, but I don't understand.

46:00Good luck. Baltimore and finding a better coach. I know what he's saying. If you look at the pinhead one guy forever, there it is. That's, you know, sometimes you have to take into account. You know, there was one report out there that he had maybe lost the locker room a little bit. And Lamar Jackson is a contract coming up too. Yeah, I wonder. Yeah. You know, if he was said, would you rather have a stick with this guy or a different voice, what I wonder what he said? Because you could. That's a great point at the end about the Tyler Loop miss. And I thought that John Harbaugh might stay just based on what happened after that game was over and him putting his armor on Tyler Loop and then starting him into the dressing room. I thought that was a really strong moment. Oh, definitely. That's what a leader does. Definitely. It didn't save him. And I wonder, you know, I mentioned the coaching situation. They're in him backing his coaches, but also I don't know the situation in Baltimore. I'm not that familiar with the city. Can you sell John Harbaugh? You know, for again, forget Lamar Jackson,

47:01if you can, Lamar Jackson for a second, can you sell him to your customers for a 19th season? And that's last sentence. Have fun finding a better coach? Yeah. There's not a million better coaches. But again, you different voice. Right. But the one thing I wonder too, if you go into the alternate universe, that game goes the other way, right? He misses that field goal this time. Yeah. The Ravens win. Yeah. It's Tom Lennart of a job, right? Like, I know people make a big deal about this over 500 thing. OK? That's a really good point. But it went the other way very easily. This story could have been about Tom Lennart today. Yes. By the way, we shouldn't mention our good pal. Speaking of my Tom Lennart, our good pal, Ross Tucker tweeted out, this is unbelievable. The Steelers and Ravens have had six combined coaches since 1969. Six coaches in two franchises. Yeah, but I mean, the Raiders. Donnie and I remember Chuck Noel.

48:01He was there forever. Yeah, yeah. And the Cower was there for a long time. Yeah, yeah. In Baltimore, you had John Harbaugh before that, you had Billick. Yeah, Brian Billick. So you've had long term names. I don't know if you guys have seen the Raiders. The Raiders have moved on from every coach after one year outside of John Grootin since they've moved to Vegas. Every single coach. And now Tom Brady's going to pick the next guy and we'll see how that goes. But that is wild. Six coaches since 1969 is insane to me. Anyway, John Harbaugh, I'm a chef to reported, by the way, within the first hour of Harbaugh being fired, his agent received seven calls about his client. Guess how many openings there are currently in the National Football League for coaches? Six. Six plus the Ravens. So some other team, they're probably not calling him. Well, no, but you wonder though, he's a guy. Honestly, we just fired your guy. He made a mistake an hour ago. But he's a guy though. I wonder that there's a team that might have kept their coach, but he comes available and you go, maybe not.

49:02If he would take our job, maybe we get rid of our guy, it's possible. He'll get another. If he wants it, and that's the thing, do you want one of these situations out there? I'm not sure. You're on a TV or something. Yeah, and is he still got time left in his contract? That I'm not sure. Because you know me. Yeah, well, you just want to be paid and not doing work. Yeah, that is the thing. Kind of like here. You want to either be fired with time remaining or get an advisor role. Buys are consulted. They are consulted. Yeah. I'm infamous for that. You are. You are. Up next. A day later than usual. He'll put a bow on the world's juniors. Craig Biden, CSN's director, is counting his necks. It's Donnie and Oli. The team I check. Hey, everyone. It's Donnie and Donnie, and we're looking to partner with your company. We have several packages and price points to fit your budget and spread the word about your company on the show in our podcast and on social media. We'd love to get involved with your company called 250-880-2282 or email. Advertise at checkmedia.ca.

50:03You laughing at over there? What do you laugh at? It's just some of the things that are in the breaks of the show, man. Let me tell you. I'm sure Craig wants to hear all about that. All of our guests today on this Wednesday, including Craig Biden standing by back from Minnesota, CSN's Scotting Director, brought to you by our friends at pastime sports and games. He's back from the world juniors in Minnesota, Canada, grabbing a bronze, Sweden, a gold. It's Craig Biden, CSN's Scotting Director. Craig, thanks for doing this, sir. How are you? I'm good. Happy New Year to you both, folks. I hope the holiday season was one filled with all the things that are fun and joyful and that you're with your loved one and your friends. Thank you. I know you caught a tuk from us. No, it looks like you got a whole cap as well. Yeah, wait till you see the turtle neck.

51:05That's not a bad idea. Good idea. What kind of job did Minneapolis St. Paul do in hosting the world juniors, Craig? Yeah, I mean, I think that you look at where the crowds were at. It's something that you go to the ranks, and you see that, especially with Canada, I mean, a rank is a third full, a half full. New Year's Eve, it got to be two thirds full. I mean, it's not a border city. It's not easy to get to. Winter, the geopolitical, so their situation doesn't help matters. And certainly, you know, for the players, I mean, they loved playing in that environment. You know, the ones that like you think about the ones that played in Ottawa last year, they love it. The USA games were very well attended. The gold medal game I thought was, I think what was it going to look like? It looked good. The building was probably about 11,000 people. But, you know, again, what we see is, is, you know, it's a tournament that Canada embraces,

52:08loves the tens, and really gets a great atmosphere. And probably when you have that benchmark to measure against, probably nobody can. And maybe that's just the reality of where we're at. But the venues were good. The people were great. The hockey was fantastic. So, you know, that's, I think we just take it for what it is, where it was at, and celebrate a good tournament. Craig, let's go back two or three weeks. You said on the show, yep, Canada, one of the gold medal favorites, but watch out for those suites. And they end up winning the gold medal to the best team win that tournament. Yes, they did, Donnie. And you watch a tournament. So it's one thing to say before the start of the tournament, who looks good, you know, you're looking at it on paper, you watch out teams, work, you see how they handle the different challenges. And Sweden just steadily just kept raising their game, kept raising the consistency in their game. It's high level. But there wasn't gaps in their game.

53:09And I think that when you look at the other teams, you look at Canada, some of the gaps they had, right from day one versus Czechia, and then certainly into the quarter final game, or the semi-final game, excuse me, you know, those gaps, you know, really reared their ugly head. Sweden didn't have those. Czechia, for the most part, didn't have those until they faced Sweden. So when you get to the end of it, and the gold medals are awarded, and Sweden wears it probably around their necks, and they didn't rely on luck or good breaks, or this or that. They outright won the tournament, and they were the outright best team. Hey, Craig, those Swedes had a conduct rapid Wilson Bjork on that hockey club. What do you think of him and his future in Vancouver? Yeah, well, I mean, I think with Wilson, he's a big, strong kid that, you know, asserts himself. I think with a lot of the players, and I'll stick specifically with the Swedish players, the Nordic players from Finland,

54:10some of those countries. But they mature a little bit later. They mature on a different timeline. But Wilson is somebody that can lean in on the boards, can play a heavy type style game. He's two years away at the very least from being able to consider coming over in North America and trying to see what he could do in the American hockey league. But when you think about where they drafted him, and how he's progressed, at that point in the draft, where you're looking at somebody that might have a specific attribute or attributes, I think it's the type of player that could find his way to the NHL. Look at Linus Carlson right now. Yeah. I don't think Linus Carlson was much different. And I think he could rewind when we talked about Linus a few years back, that, you know, okay, how does it look? He's done some good things over in Europe. He comes over, finds his way in the American hockey league. Not now. He's playing really well with the Vancouver caps. Wilson, the different type of player, but find those players that have what,

55:10what I would call the find NHL attributes and then see how far they can take them. Greg, the Canucks wake up this morning in 31st place. They're, they're going to keep this up. They're going to get a top 10 pick. Tell us about the top 10 players that you see in the draft this summer. Is there going to be a good one in there they can get even from one to 10? Oh, there's definitely going to be a good player at that. I mean, I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to bring up anything in the negative, but they got Quinn Hughes at seven. They got his Patterson at five. I mean, there's really good players in here. I think if anything, what ends up happening, I mean, the world junior tournament is a high end U20 tournament. We saw some of the best prospects there. Some of the best drafted NHL players, not in the NHL play in there. And it's high quality. So it gives you a really good opportunity to evaluate players. I mean, McKenna is a top-notch player. So is he Barstember? I mean, he is top-quality. And then you start going to the defenders.

56:10You got defenders. I mean, obviously Carson Carls, Keaton Beerhoff, Chase Reed, Albert Schmitz. I mean, those are four defenders that are really, really good. You hold Pepper Ryan in another finished player. So it feels like the top 10 picks have an abundance of defensemen and some high-end wingers in McKenna and Stenberg. So no question in my mind that if you're picking the top 10, you're going to have an opportunity to get a really good player. Craig, the conucks took a swing at signing Kiefer Sherwood on the weekend. Were you surprised when you heard that? I mean, all we've ever heard is they're going to trade the guy and now they take a shot at signing them. Yeah, but sometimes, you know, like I've been there, Rick. And you go down a path and you have these discussions. You think, okay, what can, what does it mean? What does the market look like? Okay, let's just go back and you don't want a player.

57:11And this is where I'll cut to the chase. You don't want a player coming back after the fact that saying, Jesus, I would really like to have stayed in Vancouver. It would have been a really nice place for me. But they never talked to me. I think similar thing happened with the Doroth when he was in Vancouver. A similar thing happened with Elias Lindhol. So you make the efforts to engage with the player and his agent and see, okay, what does it look like? You're looking at your own parameters. So it doesn't surprise me. And maybe what it really does is, is that if he's not going to sign there, now you just go forward. I had full conviction. We're moving on. We're going to get what we can in return. So one bronze medal. The last three world junior tournaments, Craig, as we get back to that event, are you as concerned or worried about the state of Canadian hockey, the development of young players? Is so many other people are? I think we should stop playing hockey.

58:11It's clear that we do not have a footing in the hockey world anymore. And that we really should, you know, no other country. And then, okay, I'll answer your question. No other country has to play with the multiple top U20 players, the Canada producers, and that's celebrating. That's shaffer. Yeah. That's Dickinson. That's Sonica. Yeah, there might be one player that might not be available. But nobody, no other country has yet. So what does that do? It levels the playing field to a greater extent or makes the margins a lot thinner. The other countries have been really good. Prior to this year, you know, the last six gold medalists, three Canada, three USA. And it's a team that was good. I think there was solid. They had some gaps in their game. They prevented them from getting on the right side of the things. As I talked about Sweden, they didn't have those gowns. And when the competition is good, this is where you end up on the wrong side. Mason McTabish pulls a puck off the goal line in overtime in 2022.

59:15And they win. Connor Begard is unbelievable in Halifax versus Slovakia. Or they lose. So games where Canada were on the right side of these situations in the past. Now other countries are finding their way to be on the right side of it. And certainly you look at the fact that it's a fact. The players are in the NHL pop. I mean, it's not really going to play in this tournament. He's on the Olympic team. Shaffer going to play in this tournament. He might be on the Olympic team. He certainly was in consideration for it. So I'm not. I don't have any concerns. I think that the challenges that are prevalent in minor hockey. Goal. Like my biggest thing is when I see the Brendan Shanahan and I'll certainly try to reach out to him and talk to him about this. I don't think the issues start when you're 14 or 15. I think the issues of super teams and not developing and not having. Plot players do multiple athletes start at six and seven.

1:00:15And we need to get back to the to the roots of participation and athletic development at six seven when we're introducing the players. By the time they're 15, you're not changing things. It needs to start when you. If you don't plant the right seeds, you're not going to get the right fruit. If there wasn't hockey, what would you be doing? I'd be skiing. I'd be cross 15. And in the summer, I'd be playing some paddle. I'd work on my golf game a little bit more. That's what I'd be doing. Well, when you say paddle, pickleball, but last year you had a bad injury. Yeah, you know, black eye. You're doing that too much. You had a black eye last year. Yeah. Do you think that's going to deter me? No, that's not going to stop me. Like, like, you just keep on playing. You got to fight your way through those things. Like, I'm not. I'm not going to lay there and let a little black eye stop me from playing it. It's fun. But, you know, I think doing all the different things. I mean, we're having records snow here in the mountains.

1:01:16Yeah. So the ski season has been all mental. I'm all I'm looking at is just trying to get out and get up there as much as I can. So that's what I'd be doing in the winter. If I wasn't, if there wasn't hockey. Greg, thanks for doing this and all the best and your recovery from the pickleball injury. It's been fine. It was a year or two ago. Yeah. Darni, just let me tell you, physically, I've healed. But emotionally, I'm still trying to get over it. It's a scarred. I'm going to take a while. Thanks, Greg. Yeah. Thanks. Appreciate Greg Button, TSN, Scotting Director. The two guests we've had today just love hearing them. Wax eloquent on the state of hockey. Oh, it's so good. Canada. Now, let's see if Greg Button, Poll Quests, will update. It has to do with the connoxue. I don't think we might. We did mention it earlier in Detroit as the road trip continues. They practiced today. We'll look at the lines as well. They play the Red Wings in Detroit tomorrow. Poll Quests. Next, Donny and Donny and Donny, the team is supported by Avalonctions.ca, closing your business.

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1:03:28starting to hop and pop on a Wednesday morning. And you had those numbers on Brock Besser. One goal in 24 games, no goals in 17. Cain is stuck at six goals. And look, Don, let's be honest, the connoxer of the weakest team in the national hockey league up the middle of the ice and the wingers are paying a price. I would agree. OK, meanwhile, the connox play in Detroit, tomorrow, on the heels of losing 5-3 last night in Buffalo. They practiced today in Motown, Hockey Town. And Dan Murphy, our friend from SportsNet, who works for the SportsNet Broadcast. Good guy. Has tweeted out the lines, Rick. And he did that with you in mind. I just, this is pissing me off. I'll do the first three lines. You do the line. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll not touch the last line. You have to. OK, let me go through this. DeBrosk, Ratu and O'Connor, Ogrant, Sasan, and Carlson.

1:04:29Cain with Pedders in the Besser. Well, you got to be happy about that. Investors not with Sasan anymore. Gia, wonder what the coaching staff did last night. Oh, how do we get Besser going? Play him with the top six center, maybe. Anyways, the fourth line, Hog Latter is the pig. That's Hog Latter. Or Hog Latter. I don't get the house. It's not a house. The house right there with the tree in the back. It's a type of shelter, right? You go in the woods. What do you do? Well, I don't want camp. I don't want camp. There you go with an F, right? Camp. Camp. Right? Camp, you camped on. It's Dave. Oh, Dave, the camp, the center, right? OK, anyways. You know what, I'm, we don't like the blue there. I was thinking, I asked Rick, what do you do when you go to the woods? I didn't get that. The house in the woods. I was thinking little red riding hood. Remember that? Also in the woods. In the elementary school, we all had to read that. How did you look at that and think little red riding?

1:05:32No, because you said that the tree is the cabin in the woods camp. But he's not camp. It's camp. It's a big difference. That's where you put the F there. OK, anyways, let's go from the center on the right side. That's wood. That's wood. So it sure would. Why, why is sure would, OK, so here we go again. So why is sure would on the fourth line? And why is he playing with the guy that's got zero points this year? There was a giveaway by sure wood yesterday. Also, the second goal. So he didn't look great on the tuck goal, the one that Byron set up. And the Boston goal at home and over time, he was late. So a little message to it. Look, wake up. Thanks for going very well for him in terms of scoring goals. Leading the connection goalscoring. But there's another end of the ice. I think that's what Adam foot is saying here. And Murf did also tell us if I'm not mistaken, Ryan. Don't read too much. Don't read too much into these lines. Other than the fact, Murf's going to have a whole lot of fun with you in mind. Boy, the camp was awesome. We're almost at a time here.

1:06:32I mean, you took so long figuring out what that meant. Why is he doing this? Just put the names out. Because he loves you. I know he loves me. I love him too. That's a good guy. But come on, man, how do you get camp out of that? I want to see more emojis. And there's actually an NHL team, the Golden Knights. When they tweet their lineup out, like at the start of the game, the Golden Knights only use emojis. Like the entire lineup. I love the emojis. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, this emolar, the emolar stuff is crazy. And what would you do for Ogren? What would you do? What would be your emoji to do for Ogren? Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK, that'd be good. Yeah. OK, Kane is easy. Candy Kane or Kane? Yeah. Some of them are hard. But you could also do, like if they ended up having a nickname, like when Hughes was here, Huggie, you could have done a bear. Be with a rock for Bessar. OK. Well, if you're using it, my godfnf. No, if you're a rock Bessar, the emoji for him is like Prince Charming.

1:07:33OK, but that's in terms of his logo. Yeah. But that's the thing you'd have to play the flow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to start taking about stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to think a little bit more about David Camp, I think. EP 40, they just put a money back. Yeah, or just 11.6, 11.6, 11.6, 11.6. That goes over well. But we're getting criticized, by the way, in the Bayside Ocean Front, in-box. For not criticizing the con-ox enough. Yeah, there's lots in there. Are you serious? We've been saying that one to the con-ox. Are you serious? Yeah. We get ripped every day. You guys are too negative. There's also a lot in our inbox today, by the way, giving props to Dollywall for that shirt. Yeah. Is it your first time wearing it today? It's your first time wearing a Christmas gift. That's nice. That's a nice winter look. It is. Because it's thicker. It's nice. It's funny how that look is big. It's warm. Oh, flannels. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, when I was a kid growing up in the 1800s, that was something you wore in a cold day. And nobody thought of it as a fashion thing.

1:08:34And then what happened? In the Mac Jack, and they called it. And then what happened in the 90s? The whole grunge thing made it kind of thing. Yeah, right. Johnny, Johnny, you know. You weren't even born in the Nirvana project. Yeah, I know of that. The history, though. The flannel look is a good look. The history of flannel, with the flannel. Yeah. And there's that. Speaking of In the Woods. In the Woods. Oh, Tim, the two-man sidekick on Home Improvement. Never watched. He wore a lot of flannel. Never watched it. Wow. Oh, no, we talked about Tyler Myers. OK, a couple of WHL trades involving Kanaq property. Yeah, riding again to post up by the big one is Coots. There was 12 pieces. That's a major trade. Eight goal in a Seattle. This is at the Kanaq's first round pick. He goes from Seattle to Prince Albert. And look at this. Four players. Four players, Seattle gets. And four draft picks, two first rounders. But they also had to cough up four pieces. So 12 total pieces for Braden Coots. What does that tell you? Let me tell you a lot of what they think of Braden Coots

1:09:36at the Western Hockey League level for Prince Albert to give up that many pieces down to eight pieces. That's massive. And they've got a shot this year. They've got a shot. The Prince Albert's got a shot. He goes to a winning program. He gets to practice with better players. He gets a shot at winning the league title. He hasn't won much in Seattle. They're dead last in the West. This is a great move on many levels. He was not going back to Seattle, folks. He is probably going to end up in Abysford with the Abysford Heat because all NHL teams are going to be allowed. No, he's for Kanaq's. Abysford Kanaq's. If he's playing for the Abysford, he's in big troubles. He's going into the time tunnel. I'm rattle with the camp thing. The camp thing blew him up. Michael Backlin played there. Exactly. So it has been virtue. But anyways, let me finish. All NHL teams are going to be allowed 1-19 year old to play pro hockey next year. I believe it's going to be Coots. And I think Coots is going to be in Abysford next year. Get your tickets for Abysford. Disappointing here in that this board is not include emojis instead of the player's names. Yeah. Anyways. Also, also you got the scoop.

1:10:38Yes, my buddy Quinn got the scoop. I show it Ryan. This is Vancouver Kanaq's draft pick kid out of Port Moody Don coached him. Port Moody minor hockey he was like six or so. It doesn't matter. You coached him and your son knows him well, Quinn. Parker Alcoz Kanaq's draft pick goes from Edmonton to Kelowna. So he's going to play in the Memorial Cup, folks. So you're going to see some Kanaq's in the Memorial Cup. This is good. Big tough defense when you know this. You don't even know the family at a Port Moody long time. Good on this kid. Coots are really excited about this kid too. Parker's happy he gets to be near his. And nothing against Edmonton which is having a very good year but closer to family. Anyway, he'll play in the Memorial Cup. They're hosting the Memorial Cup. And Don, people take it for granted. A 16 year old kid's got to move from Edmonton to Prince Albert or Seattle. Or it's very tough to move at a young age like that. Live with the bill of family and we just take it for granted. But you and I, I've known 16, 17 year olds

1:11:39that I had to move out of town. It's a tough thing to do sometimes. Business. Oh, business, yeah. Absolutely. Here we go. BC's number one sports. memorabilia and gaming shop is pastime sports. Check out the largest selection of sports memorabilia. Autographed items, trading cards, collectible games in Western Canada. Four locations. You got a metro town. Guilford Mall, Capital Animal, and the largest stores in Langley. If you can't visit the mid-story, you can shop their massive collection featuring cards from any era online at pastime sports.ca. Laptop. Fred on Laptop today. This guy's been hot. Noose Hoaglander signed to Raffpuck. That's on the right. On the left, random card of the day. Nice. You look good. Yeah, this is your worst day in the world. Oh, what's he got to do with that? I said Dean. Yes, better known as a leaf. Not as a connoct, okay? So that's that. They played Detroit tomorrow. I know it's a tomorrow. There'll be something Detroit-related, why not today? Today, the link, Matt Sunning. Yes, the sweet normal connoct.

1:12:40Sweet and one gold. And also, I don't know if you guys saw last night. He presented a big plaque. Big ceremony. Who cares? The Matthews, now most goals in leaf history. Now, Ryan, do we really need to bring that up? What? Who cares about the NHL? Because T.S. and its force that all they talk about is the Leafs and the Blue Jays. T.S. has producing a 30 for 30. T.S. has producing a 30 for 30, I think, on the presentation. On the big night, yeah. Nothing else. I'm reading this book right now. So Dean? Oh, you've been reading a diet, picked it up in the airport. You've been reading that thing for like six months. You need to do two pages a night. This is fast for everyone. If it's a flight of more than two hours, not magazines. It's got to be a book. It's got to be a book. It's got to be a magazine. If it's two hours on a flight, just get magazines. Yeah, but you got movies, then, all right? Oh, I want to read. I want to read. That's good of you. But you are a sucker because you're paying a ton at the airport for a 40 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. I like reading autobiographies.

1:13:41Bottom line. Same. Mm-hmm. Same. What's the last out of it? What's the last out of it? I've been proud of myself. I read four books last year. That's a shocker. I know. I only watch television. I see. You know people. They prefer to read instead of watching TV. Reading is good. Reading is good. Autobiographies are the best. You learn a lot. Yeah. I can go. I'm reading a book. That has a link to you. I brought this up. Oh, Michael J. Fox. I'm reading a book right now. Okay. We don't have to get into why there's a link here. There's a link. Yeah. Burnaby. That's the link. There's many mentions of Burnaby in the book. DTMZ next. Donnie Delay. The team. On check. It's 1134 on a Wednesday morning. Donnie Delay on check TV now time for DTMZ. Brought to you by the world. Famous whistle of golf club. Go see Big Al. A third. Great track. Great track. DTMZ. Brought to you by the Arnold Palmer Design Whistler Golf Club.

1:14:41Excited to get phase two of their golf course renovation underway in April. And a reminder, if you're visiting Whistler and want to keep your game sharp, come play some of the world's best courses on the sim. Oh, sim is great. Book online at WorcesterGolf.com. Once again, we've gone over time allotment in our other segments. This is all on Ryan and Derek. So we have to get right to Berthes. Ryan's the director of the ship. So if we're over or under, he used to play. Mm-hmm. Okay. What are we doing here? Berthes. Berthes. Brought to you by Rick's Clock Workshop in Cochrane, Alberta. Who, who, who sent this in? I don't know, but whoever sent it in is thinking, one day you're going to mess this up and it's going to be epic. It's going to be epic. It's going to be our good pal Justin and his fan. He didn't match the head with the body. That's why it makes it good. Okay. Anyways, look. Oh, that works. Come on. This guy right here texted me last week. This goalie was a second round pick of the Florida Panthers in 1999.

1:15:43Alex Ald. Oh, just Ryan stopped. He mentioned it yesterday though. Exactly. Who mentioned it yesterday? That you didn't. You talked to Alex Ald and texted him. Oh, my thing flew off. What? I mentioned that Alex Ald is Berthes today? No, you mentioned texting with him. Me and my big mouth. Alex Ald. Good guy. He's out there. Why would he be Berthes, Alex? Good guy. He texted me. The Wungo trade, right? He was part of the Wungo trade. Absolutely. Okay. Let's go. We'll go over time. Okay. This undrafted tough guy played over 1,000 games in the NHL. Ended up with 2,600 minutes in penalties for his career. Won a memorial cup with Verdun in 1991. 283 minutes. Wait, wait, wait, wait. 91? 91 Verdun. 283 minutes in penalties that year. 18 goals. He could score two. Made his NHL debut for the Montreal Canadiens in 1993. Had a heated verbal exchange with Mario Tromblay. A practice. Donald Brashear.

1:16:43Damn it. I knew I shouldn't have said that. Canuck. Canuck. Donald Brashear. Tough guy. You won't find a tougher guy than Donald Brashear in the back of the day. You're going to mention Marty McSorley. Marty McSorley. I was going to mention. But four days after he got in that fight with the Montreal coach, traded to the Vancouver Canucks. Jason Colomore, was it? Yeah. Yeah. Colomore with the other way. All right. Here we go. Third overall pick on the 2010 NHL draft. Before the NHL draft, he was one of the top soccer goalies in Ottawa growing up. It had to make a choice. Soccerer, hockey, pick, hockey. This big defenseman helped Canada win the silver medal. The world's juniors in 2010. His defensive partner, Florida, was Edgelman Ascii in his rookie season. He's still playing in the NHL today. It's currently with the Blue Jackets. Trade into the Canucks in 2016. Do you want me to keep going, Jim Benning? I need size. I need toughness. Good Branson. Good Branson. Good Branson. Good Branson. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as soon as I said, he was with the Canucks.

1:17:43You guys should have got it. Something here that's not right. Oh. What do you mean? Okay. Go ahead. All right. Let's go. He was the Columbus. He's still with Columbus. He's been paying out. Columbus. Yeah. Does anybody sign that big deal? This guy was the Canucks 6th rubbed pit with the NHL. He's finished. Down here. Can we get off of Canucks? This guy was the Canucks 6th rubbed pit with the NHL draft in 95. Plate for Saskatoon and Swift Current. Overcame and undiagnosed dyslexia. Situation that he struggled with throughout his life. Training camp, Mark Crawford told him he'll never play in the NHL. He said, boy, it was Crawford wrong. He played 15 years of pro hockey. Unsung, Konakiro in 2002. Come on. Man, what are you guys doing? I don't keep bounced around. Wonders down the cup with the Black Hawks in 2000. So cool. So cool. Right here. I remember his debut. Remember he got called up? Saturday night hockey. Played it. I always remember about Brent's hopeful. What? What?

1:18:43The cracker. His nickname was the cracker. No, he got hurt. No, not cracker. But he hurt himself. Pick it up with cracker for his baby. Yeah. But he hurt his back. He hurt his back. Pick it up with cracker. But then a week later, he said it wasn't true. Did that become his nickname? No. Wouldn't be a good nickname. He had an nickname. I can't remember. He's been very outspoken about the dyslexia thing. Just dyslexia thing, by the way. Yeah. And he's still doing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still doing stuff. Okay, last one. This guy was born in Wattask, Alberta. Defenseman. Sixth round. Pick of the penguins in 1991. Played Medicine Hat. Penguins all-time leader and penalty minutes. At the time of his departure in 1990. Not much offense. But boy, this guy was a tough customer. Cleared the front of the net. 13 years NHL. 1990. Traded to the connox. Appeared in only 17 games for Vancouver. Before breaking his ankle. He required surgery while recovering the connox. Traded him back. Rod Buskis. Rod Buskis. You got it, Doddy. I remember interviewing the day he got traded.

1:19:44They're back to Pittsburgh. I remember Rod Buskis and Vancouver. He went with Tanty, I think. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right. Tony Tanty. Yeah. Barry Peterson, Capitol, all those guys. Dan Quinn in that trade, too. We're good. Yep, we're good. Is he just becoming up meanwhile? Kenny Loggins. Oh. 77. He's going to play us out April 86. And the top gun. Soundtrack. This is Kenny Loggins, a danger zone. I check. Reven up your engine on a BC Wednesday morning. Is it just me as next? It's Donnie and Dolly the team. It's on check. The Vancouver Giants are celebrating their 25th anniversary season. The Vancouver Giants are celebrating their 25th anniversary season. The Vancouver Giants are celebrating their 25th anniversary season at the LEC. Fans can check out a variety of experiences all season long, including the unveiling of the top 25 players of all time. On the ice, you can watch the electrifying play of Dallas

1:20:47Stars, Draft Pick, a 40 goal score, Cameron Schmidt. Islanders, Draft Pick, Burk Hood. We'll lead the team in the crease. And, plus, follow the progress of NHL Draft eligible fansman, Ryan Linn, and get single game tickets for less than $25 a pop, or group tickets for as low as $20 per seat in quantities of eight or more. Visit VancouverGiants.com slash tickets to grab yours now. Today might have said a record for, is it just me, submissions in the Bayside Ocean Front Resort inbox. Start a software. All right. Getting rid of Chris Taniv was a mistake. He was needed to help out the kids in the room, keep Myers, Frank, the tank, and Calgary. Connects have a very, very young blue line. People talk about, oh, they make mistakes in their own end. Well, these kids are learning on the fly. Guys like Myers are important. And Chris Taniv was the best at helping kids on the ice and off the ice. Chris Taniv was absolutely one of the best.

1:21:48Big difference, though, in terms of where the team was at. They unloaded it, or Chris Taniv left at a time they were coming off some success in the bubble. That's true. Right. In 2020, along with Markstrom and to Foley. So a little bit of a different situation there. Is it just me, from Gives and Surrey, imagine if the Connects get the first pick and make a trade to also get the second pick, Hashtag Sedines, keeping in mind that back in 1999, it wasn't the first and second pick. It was the second and third pick. And Brian Berg did some wonderful... Patrick Steffen did, right? He did some wonderful work that day to get this. Friend of the show. Yeah. Friend of the show. When it comes to Besser, it's about chemistry. I don't think he has chemistry with anyone. Robin Victoria makes a good point. Like Don, Miller's gone. You know, Quinn Hughes ain't giving him the puck anymore. I mean, it's a different looking team right now for Brock Besser. But the winners that play well, how do they play well? I don't want to get it. They managed to score and I just don't get it.

1:22:51How does that happen? It's the weakest team in the NHL at the center race position. The winners are suffering right now. Is it just Mayor? Can you guys name any other Conox draft picks in the last 10 years that you would consider to have playoff and ret? I can name only one. You'll hand Gajavitsch and he has two Stanley Cupbrings playing elsewhere in Florida. That's a great point. Gajavitsch has done a really good job. I'm signed there too. Yeah, and Gajavitsch is staying in the NHL. He was a fourth line guy. Conox got rid of him. He's done a good job. He's won two cups. He's a tough guy. He holds Gajavitsch accountable and he sticks up for his teammates in Florida. That's a really good text. The center drives the play in both ends of the Ace. If your center isn't defensively oriented, your wingers are going to suffer a day from the lake couch and bang on. Bang on. Conox problems all start at the center race position. Bingo. So why pay your wingers any sort of large amount of money? Why pay your centerman 11.6? Same thing. Is it just me get Rick off the show? No, he hates the connection since they got rid of Miller.

1:23:53Stop. Stop, stop. JT Miller. Conox themselves tell you every day of the week. We didn't want to get rid of JT. JT trade was not in the mix until all the fiasco started with Patterson. He was never going to be traded, Don. You don't sign a guy for seven years and trade him a year and a half later. No one hates the connection. I don't even know. Look at the guy talking about that. We don't hate that. The thought that any of us hate the Conox is so wrong. We want to come to the best for the team and we're just throwing advice out there. We want to listen to it. We want to cover a winning team, not the 31st place team in the NHL. Is it just me? But if the Conox resides Sherwood, he will underperform after signing. Trade him while you can be in rebuild mode. That's Kyle from Surrey. Who now lives in Edmonton? Best of luck at Edmonton. Let's see here. Okay. Unsigned. Again, please sign you text and emails.

1:24:53We want to give you credit. Is it just me? But last year you guys bitched every day that the Conox were disrespecting Bessar. Now you're bitching. You see that? Yeah, you can see that. Well, you've signed him. You've passed the pickle lane. Pickle lane. So we were upset. They were disrespecting him, not signing him. They signed him and now we're upset about that. Well, you know what? He's not performing as he has in the past. You do not pay somebody 7 million to have one goal in 24 games. You do not pay someone 7 million to go 17 games without a goal Don. He is struggling. Do you guys think there was too much Eastern hockey influence on the Canadian junior team? Coots didn't play much. That's a good point. Coots was basically a fourth line center there. Bottom line. We're going to be in Prince Albert where he's going to be playing now. People who didn't see this start of the show. I heard the news yesterday but Bradencoots going from Seattle to Prince Albert. We're going to have Nat Domakelli on the show tomorrow. Yes.

1:25:53GM with the Giants. They've made five trades ahead of tomorrow's Western hockey league. They might meet another one today. Okay. Yeah. Keep an eye on that. And of course Cameron Schmidt going from Vancouver to Seattle. Yeah. New West Nick is it just me but should the Conox scratch nobody? Because this is the roster that will get them first overall. Get the lottery simulator going. We have a lot of requests. I don't know where we are with that Ryan. But we have a lot of requests out there. People want us to start playing the tankathon draft lottery simulator. I think we should. They're 31st on. We should except I played it on the weekend. And took me 20 times before the Conox got first pick. Look at the islanders last year. That's true. That's true. 10th to four. Well that's not franchise defenseman. That's true. Conox fans feel any any better because the general thinking out there. Is that they're going to finish you know 31st to 32nd and not win the lottery. I don't think it's fair. I think the team that finished the 32nd should get the first overall pick.

1:26:55Teams are good school. The teams are getting screwed. But then it's a tank right? That could lead to tanky. I get it. We're good. Okay. A break. We'll wrap up the show in the poll question next. Donnie, tell the team on check. Looking for one of Victoria's most iconic stays? The award winning, Waddling Dog, has been welcoming guests in their dogs for over 30 years. 10 minutes from the airport in the ferry. Their runes blend vintage charm with modern comfort making it the perfect home base for your island adventures. Your trip isn't complete without a stop. With the legendary Waddling Dog pub, 20 taps, wall-to-wall TVs, every conax game, and UFC pay-per-view, plus an extensive daily happy hour. And before you go, stock up at their cold beer wine store. Hundreds of local and imported options, plus exclusive Donnie and Dolly merchandise. The dog isn't just a hotel. It's a destination. Come, sit and stay.

1:27:58It's not full, Rick. Ryan up. Waddling Dog, poll question. And it is very simple today. Who should the conax next healthy scratch be? 48% say Besser. But look at this. 44% say King. I think it's a journey over here now. 80% say. Other 788 votes that start in a hop and pop on a Wednesday morning. Much more even than I would have thought. I think just given the numbers that a lot of people would have said, would have said Besser. I think both these guys have had their ups and downs this year. If you're going to, if you're going to healthy scratch to brusque, then you should not be afraid to healthy scratch anyone else. And it's worked for him. And it's worked for him. He's come back. He's had a couple of power play goals. Squared yesterday. Absolutely. Pictures. Ryan, where are we going? Up north. Yeah, they're hold over one right? Fort St. John? Yeah. Oh. You're all stomping grounds. My old stomping grounds. Spent four years there in the early 90s. Beautiful people. Good people. Four years. There's 90 to 94. Got a beautiful town. Great people. You were in high school longer. Hold on a second here.

1:28:58Right. You said four years in Fort St. John. You worked at 700 other cities. I would ask when Prince George Squamish, Powell River, I was all on the map. Squamish. My first, uh, first, uh, little. We don't want to know this. My first, uh, not that. But my first gig was in Squamish. You know, Mountain FM. Beautiful. Mountain FM. Yeah. Mountain FM. It was in a little shack. Yeah. And, uh, you wore that shirt there. Yeah. Where there's shirt in the shack. It is shimmy. Well, yeah, get the photo right. Shimmy. Okay. Shimmy shack. What is Shimmy shack? Why, why, no idea. Shake shack. Shake shack. Shake shack. It's the burger place. What do you got here? No. Okay. Ryan. Look at this. Shimmy shack. Ryan. Ryan. Let me finish this. This is Kit. B. From North Delta. Up in Fort St. John over the Christmas holidays. The Grand Kids Play Hockey. All three of them. Uh, just a balmy minus 21. Oh, no, no. No. No, a balmy minus 29.

1:29:58And about 36 inches of snow. Oh. Love it. That's the airport. Beautiful photo. That is Kit B. In North Delta. Up watching his grandkids. In Fort St. John B. And you've been to the Fort St. John rink. Of course. I've been to the one in Taylor. Best French fries I've ever had. Oh, French fries. The Taylor rink. Dawson Creek rink. We donny and I paid our dues up north. Dawson someone didn't in this room. Yes. Kit also his mustache would keep him warm. That's a good stat. Show kit again. I didn't see the mustache. Right. I didn't see the mustache. Oh, geez. That's that's laddy McDonald. It is. That's laddy McDonald. Kit. That's a great mustache. Not Tom Selik. North. North. North. North. North. I've been there many times.

1:31:14It is. iti. Very great hatte. I was there. I won by wife, Dj, born by D&D Pierre and brought it to the center of the universe. Toronto. Yes. Where are they? Is that Aragoshcap? No, what? There's a football field. I had a match. There's a football field in the back. It's a great green space. There's not anything. Oh, it's just grass. Okay. No no no, it's overlooking B-mo I think. No. I don't know. That's like downtown? No. No, no, no, b-mo is not there. I don't know where B-mo is. B-mo is not by the tower. parties. DG let's be you have to see that it could be yeah, it could be that's a football field right. Oh my okay Maybe it is, but it's not BMO that's a football field take it to the bank Anyway, thank you to Creed. That's one of our new tukes. Oh, yeah He's got the god, but he never shows his face. I've met Creed. That's that's the white though Now he's a good-looking guy. I don't why why you nice where your face? Well, what else we'll talk next time you see him ask him Okay, sure me shack Or shake shack shake shack

1:32:15Can I actually Detroit tomorrow. Thanks for tuning in folks and our thanks to Ken Hitchcock and Craig But on behalf of Ryan Derek Rick everybody here at oh boy check. I'm Don you're up to date in the world of sports Thanks for listening to the Donnie and Donnie podcast be sure to follow us on Twitter at Donnie and Donnie for all the latest show content