Jakob Nowell (Sublime) with Yelawolf

0:00Hi, this is Carrie Brownstein. This is D.D. from me. This is Darren Ardalski. You got the lizard right here. Prismagound. Right here. I'm a Lysha Tyler. Tron Cole Quest. Fred Armistons. Brits Paul. Have you ever been yours, Seth Mike? Frankie Cosmos. My loads. Hi, we're Hi. I'm Anger listening to the Talkhouse podcast. Ow! Hello and welcome to the Talkhouse podcast. I'm Josh Modell. On this week's short but sweet episode, I might even call it a mini-sode. We've got a couple of guys at interesting points in interesting careers. Both have been flirtatious with the mainstream, but not exactly in it all the time. It's Jacob Noel and Yellow Wolf. And Jacob Noel was still an infant when his dad, Bradley Noel, died at just 28. Bradley was the frontman for the Southern California band's sublime, whose music would go on to reach a much wider audience not long after his death. The other two members of sublime continued with a different singer, with varying degrees of success. While Jacob Noel grew up and started making music on his own. A couple of years back, Jacob got together with his dad's old bandmates and reignited sublime again.

1:01And the fact that his voice sound remarkably like his dad's made it a welcome transition for the band's fans. This new sublime recorded an album, which they say will be the band's last, and they tour and play like crazy, including owning their own festival packed with reggae and punk-tinged fellow travelers. Those fellow travelers include the other half of today's conversation, Yellow Wolf, who will play a bunch of shows with sublime this year, including the band's cruise in November, and a big amphitheater in Alabama later in September. There aren't many musicians who can claim collaborations with Ed Sheeran, Eminem, Travis Barker, ASAP Rocky, and Tech9, but this Nashville-based rapper can. He's been around for a long time, and has always seemed like a musical seeker. His next album, 45, is coming out later this year, and it reportedly features no wrapping at all. Check out a bit of the single My Country right here, and see for yourself. That same old Bible bell, I still hold it up my steps. I'm from the wrong side of the tracks, so my country doesn't look like that. Doesn't look like that.

2:02Even my country doesn't look like I just see enough fire. You're in the miles and it's different your types. I'm just seen enough fire. You're in the miles, you're in the miles. I caught these guys on a busy day, and they didn't chat super long, but I still felt like there was enough there to share. They talk about hanging out backstage with superstars at the Aftershock Festival, about potentially collaborating in the future. They even have a dream-the-3rd member of their trio in mind, and about Jacob's emotional trips to the last venue his father ever played. Check it out. What's up, bro? Long time no see, man. How was he giving you flowers, man? I appreciate that. That really means a lot. Of course. I was just saying it like, you know, as a hip-hop artist, and you know, raised on like rock and roll and gangster rap music, and you know, reggae in a certain sense could be a bit soft for me.

3:06But so blind touched on something that was like a bit street for me. Like, it was something that I could resonate with, and I was like, I'm so stoked that Jacob has like reintroduced this energy because it's a needed energy, and I'm just honored to be a part of the rollout, man. There's not many artists that are born to reinvent themselves under their predecessors, like their artist parents, like Matt King Cole, or the Marlies, or I would say the closest artist that I've ever seen, closest to their father is YoungDB, which is Olderdy Bastard's son. Yeah. He looks like he looks like him, acts like him, sings like him, fucking raps like him. I mean, it's unbelievable, bro. You just gotta be like, dude, that shit is so genetic, and you caught it, and it could have been three generations past you,

4:10but you caught it. And it's incredible to watch, man. So I'm stoked to be a part of this whole journey. Yeah. No, we're stoked too, man. I've been a fan of yours since I was young, bro. And it's just, it's cool how much this life has opened me up to meeting all sorts of individuals. You know, I've just sort of just been doing my own thing for so long. And then when this opportunity to join my dad's band came up, I sort of was like, well, fuck, it's sort of like somebody thought I would never do. It's, it's only once I realized like how, you know, that there was a lot of people that did want that. It was kind of touching for them, and it would be like a cool moment in time. And so I'm like, you know what? This is going to bring together my family again. We're going to hit the road again. Get all of our friends together. And yeah, it is kind of reintroduction in a weird way, because it's crazy. He shows her bigger than ever. The kids are really stoked on it. And again, which I think is a really good, like, just sign of the world. Sign of the times is that they want like that authenticity and music. I've always been a huge fan of the band myself, just regardless.

5:10So I'm like, cool as bands ever. So I get to be really lucky to have a mood involved in this last record. And we involved these last couple years of shows. And I'm just stoked, dude. I'm on a trip with my girlfriend in North Carolina. We were in San Francisco last night. We took a little trip up to Saul Salito. It's kind of interesting time to be talking about this stuff, because I'm heading up a little further north to a town called Pedaluma, where there's this venue called the Phoenix Theater. Sort of more like used to be a venue, but now it's a community center where kids skate and stuff like that and hang out. They have some shows there still. But it's where sublime played their final show. And yeah, dude, the night they played there, they drove back down to San Francisco, got a hotel there, and that was an idea. I had my dad passed away. So sometimes I go up to this theater where it was his last musical expression of his life. About some flowers, always by sunflowers. And yeah, I'm just going to go up there and just kind of kick back with my lady

6:14and bust out like a tar and just kick it in that zone, because it's a special place for me. I haven't been back there since before I joined the band years ago. It'll be cool. I hope the place is still still got kids coming in and out of it and making new memories. Ah, that's sick. Yeah, man, it's not nice. Have you ever been to a salsa litigal before? Yeah, it's beautiful. It's like right on the bay north of San Francisco. So there's all these beautiful houses and the hills and stuff. Just insane views by the water. What are you up to right now? Are you on the road? I did a show on Reno day before yesterday. Oh, cool. And for some reason, in this period of my career, like reggae or new reggae or, you know, scar or punk scar, whatever you could call it, has adopted me. And I've done like three reggae rise ups.

7:14I've landed this tour to open up for you guys. And for whatever reason, it makes perfect sense. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I'm just rolling with it, dude. I'm just like, all right, man, I'm fucking here for it. I'm like, man, if this is where God intends me to be, man, then I'm showing up, you know? Like, because the energy is always so good. And I've done like a lot of hip hop festivals, you know, like I've toured with West Khalifa, tour, Wu-Tang Clan. And, you know, I mean, like, so cool now. I've done rock the bells multiple times. But there's something about the crowds that you guys bring out that are just there to have fun and join music and just like absorb something new, you know? And you can feel it, you know? Like, as an artist on stage, you're like, damn, dude.

8:14Like, of course, I have fans there that are there for me, but obviously you guys bring this whole sea of people that are like, who the fuck is yellow wolf? And like, oh, I fuck with this, man, this is chill. I enjoy this so much and I'm so looking forward to this tour. I think where we really need to get down, dude. We need to touch base in that studio, dog. I would love to, man, you kidding me? That'd be a dream come true. Because, like you said, there's so much crossover. It's that big alternative music umbrella. It's like, that's where I see it going. Like, all genres colliding. Because it's not like how it used to be where there was like, you know, you're either a punk kid or you're a reggae kid or you're into hip hop. Now, it's like any of the genres, you're just either like a person who likes to go out and see live music or not. That's how I swear it's how I see the youth treating it now. They're like, oh, I'm a music person. I like to go out and see music. I enjoy it. I appreciate it.

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10:20Where are you based out of? Nashville, Tennessee. Nice. Yeah, okay. Cool. Cool. Yeah. One of our managers, D-Rock. He's over there. So we get over there a lot. I love Nashville. Nashville's legendary. Yeah, man. I think that that's like the evolutionary step that we could take. But honestly, man, just just to be on the road and support and I'm on it. Dude, like I'm so stoked about our shows and thanks, man. Thank you for allowing the opportunity. Thanks for being a part of it, man. When we were looking for options, I was like, Oh, please see if you'll be able to pull people out. I don't know if you remember, but a long ass time ago, one of my first band bands, we played aftershock festival with you. And it's just a random day at aftershock, whatever. And after our sets, what my drummer, he, I don't know, something about in the green room. Everybody got this like whiskey or something. So we were all just kicking a drink and whiskey at one point.

11:20It's just like, I was like, man, he's like mad show. And then everyone was stoked that day because I'm a talent. It's like, yeah, yeah, dude, like all the biggest artists were their backstage, but it was almost like none of us were like Metallica was in their whole other zone. And we were just all like, Oh, shit, we're going to see Metallica. It was fucking crazy, man. It was aftershock festival is Metallica. It was Joan J. And primus primus. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Macedon and primus. So at one point, dude, I'm sitting there with fucking dude, primus, zyq wild fucking Joan J. In a circle like backstage is like jaw drop dude, like like like the King is a rock and roll or just like just sitting right in front of me, man. Pass the ball, whiskey round. Yeah, yeah, I love memories like that too. Like it's crazy.

12:21Hey, let's let's Claypool. We should get him involved. That's what I'm saying, man. That's like my dream, you know, that's my favorite bass player. Hey, let's get fucking it's collaborative. Dude, just me you and less Claypool. That's it. Oh my god, dude. That would be so fuck me. Just fuck all. That would be so sick. I'm saying. Yeah, that'd be a mess. Yeah, dude, you never know what's going to happen. Man, what's, uh, she was coming up next got the crews coming up. Yeah, the rest of this year is going to go hard, man. And the rest of next year as well. I'm just excited for it. I would love to go out there to Nashville and make a trip though. That'd be fun, man. I know you don't need it, but, but you know, I got a fucking got a big old crib, man. You can fucking post up, man. I got a car that, you know, like you can just show man, like come show. Well, I'm coming. Oh, what a flat with a flat. I want some long, Mickey shorts and some tall socks and low top bands. Oh, dude.

13:35Fucking socks, bro. Yeah. I'm going to go to the Dickeys. Let's go to the so Cal style. They're not called it. Yeah. That's exactly what I got. They know they know I'm so cal over. They can tell. Yeah, sick, dude. That's fun, man. It's good time. I'm going to go. We got a little chance to chat, man, because this is sick. I know we bumped into each other at that last show. So it's good to get a second to say what's up and just get on the same page and yeah, it's perfect timing, man. Unless you get back to Dan with your girl, man, I appreciate you time. Thank you. Hey, dude, seriously, yo, one of my heroes, bro. Appreciate that this time. And thanks for coming out on the road with us. And yeah, it's getting that studio. Man, make some memories. That's what we're here to do. Yeah. All right. Love. Love.

14:38Thanks for listening to the talkhouse podcast. And thanks to Jacob Noel and Yellow Wolf for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform and check out all the great stuff we got going at talkhouse.com. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the range. See you next time. You