
About this episode
Colin is joined by Dean Kerr (Lead Developer) and Amy Laws (Developer) to discuss 'The Experiment' – a four‑week study exploring how AI really affects software development. Instead of synthetic benchmarks, the team tackled genuine issues in an open‑source project, alternating between AI‑assisted work and going completely 'cold turkey'.
The contrasts were striking. Amy's AI‑free period exposed how dependent everyday development has become on instant summaries and contextual answers. Meanwhile, Dean found that adopting a simple agentic loop – Analysis → Implementation → Reflection – helped him make better use of AI rather than blindly accept its output.
Together, their experiences reveal a discipline in flux: developers gain speed and support from AI, but also confront questions about craftsmanship, learning, and where the fun in software now sits as the tools reshape both workflow and mindset.
Useful links for this episode
-
Measuring the Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Developer Productivity – METR
-
SWE-bench – SWE-bench Team
-
Analysis → Implementation → Reflection – a practical technique for issue resolution with agentic AI – Dean Kerr, Scott Logic
- Agentic Engineering Patterns – Red/green TDD – Simon Willison's Weblog
Get every episode summarized
Each time Beyond the Hype publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Beyond the Hype

Vibe coding: Is this really how we'll build software?
Beyond the Hype

Will sustainable AI ever be a reality?
Beyond the Hype

Is Agile now a dirty word?
Beyond the Hype

Will Low-Code and No-Code be disrupted or powered up by AI?
Beyond the Hype