
About this episode
Get every episode summarized
Each time What Happened to Holly Bobo? publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
Transcript ready
460 searchable segments. Every word is indexed and playable.
Full transcript
What Happened to Holly Bobo? — Introducing "Bridge of Lies". Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Hi, I'm Gigi Chang. You may know me as the co-anchor of Nightline, or from my true crime reporting on 2020, complex layered stories like The Birdock Family Murders, and I'm gonna get you the case of Debbie Dorian. And now I get to host a new true crime podcast from 2020, an ABC audio, called Bridge of Lies. It's a heart-pounding thriller about the mysterious disappearance of Sarah Stern, a 19-year-old from New Jersey who had dreams of becoming an artist. The night she disappeared, the only clue authorities discovered was her car abandoned on a bridge overnight. Her friends and loved ones offered different theories. Maybe she jumped or fled to Canada. But the more police were digging, conflicting statements moved investigators to consider the possibility of foul play. But what motive would there be to harm Sarah? The detectives start to piece together a shocking betrayal.
It makes you question, who can you trust? Finally, a daring sting operation reveals a heartbreaking betrayal. You actually have to hear it to believe it. In Bridge of Lies, we'll be sharing every twist and turn of this entire story over the next six weeks. Keep listening now to hear the first episode right here. And if you like it, you can get the rest of the series by following Bridge of Lies on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you're listening now. You said you were over him, but his hoodie is stealing your rotation. It's time, grab your phone, snap a few pics, and sell it on D-Pop listed in minutes, with no selling fees. And just like that, a guy 500 miles away just paid full price for your closure. And right on cue. Hey, still got my hoodie? Nope. But I've got tonight's dinner paid for. Start selling on D-Pop. Where taste recognizes taste. List now with no selling fees. Payment processing fees and boosting fees
still apply. See website for details. 9-101, where is the emergency? In the middle of a cold December night by the Jersey Shore, a driver spots something that gives him a strange feeling. And not the emergency. Actually, on the Belmar Bridge, in the middle of the bridge, there's a car that's abandoned. So what kind of car is it? It kind of looks like an old beat-up, light-can-fuller-like sedan. The caller thinks it looks like a car someone in their 70s or 80s would drive. And was there anybody inside the vehicle? I looked now. Okay, let's say we're sleeping. I couldn't see them by their head being up. Nobody's going to turn it. Power. Okay. Bye. Police head to the bridge and find a silver 1994 Oldsmobile 88. It's rusty and some of the paint is flaking off. Inside, the leather seats are wrinkled and worn with big gashes that reveal yellow stuffing.
But the strange thing is, it doesn't seem like the car broke down or gotten an accident. It's unlocked. Keys are in the center console. And the caller was right. Nobody is inside. There's also no ID, no money, and no clothing. The trunk has some Disney memorabilia and artwork in it. But otherwise, it's just an empty old car left on a bridge in the middle of the night. The bridge runs between Neptune City and Belmar across the Shark River, which flows out to the Atlantic Ocean. On this cold December night, the river has a strong current. Some of the officers walk down to the Belmar Marina to see if there are any clues by the water. But it's so dark, they can hardly see anything. As the waters of the Shark River rush into the ocean, the officers begin an investigation that will rock this sleepy short town.
An investigation that will make people question who they can really trust and what those closest to them are capable of. From ABC Audio and 2020, I'm Gigi Chang. And this is Bridge of Lies. Episode 1. The Abandoned Car. Neptune City Police! Hello! Hello! Neptune City Police! Hello! Police run the plates and figure out that the abandoned Oldsmobile is registered to a woman in her 90s. Her name? Lillian Stern. She lives about 10 minutes away from the bridge in Neptune City. Officers head to Lillian's house, but they're actually looking for her granddaughter, Sarah Stern, who they've learned by now typically drives the Oldsmobile and lives with her father and her grandmother.
Police shine their flashlights as they check the perimeter of the Stern's house. And then they prepare to enter. From body camera footage, we can see it's very dark outside. There are just a few glimmers of distant light coming from porches throughout the neighborhood. The streets quiet and residential. If it's sidewalks and modest homes with short driveways and fenced in yards, the Stern's house is white with black window shutters. Sarah and her father both grew up in this house, where police are now knocking. But no one answers. We're getting no answer at the house. I might go inside and make sure everything's kosher here. I don't want to make sure we don't have a jumper. A jumper. It's an early theory. Perhaps the most obvious for why the car might have been left on the bridge in the middle of the night. Maybe the driver parked, then climbed over the edge. Before walking into the house, officers worry someone might be home.
I'm pretty sure we're going to run into Mike in there. Mike, Michael Stern, that's Sarah's dad. Be prepared for if Mike is home, for him to be pissed. He may be out of state. But who knows? The front door is unlocked and they head inside. We're going to make ourselves very well known by yelling and screaming in the bang on walls. The home is mostly dark, but there's a small lamp and overhead light on in the living room. Hello, it's a police department. Hello, anybody home? And now it's yourself, please. Hello, I guess the grandma is not here. A big dog is locked in a crate. It's buddy, Sarah's 10 year old Foxhound. He's brown and white with floppy ears and big brown eyes. Somebody put the dog in a cage. Hello, police department. Hello, buddy, good doggy. The officers shine their flashlights into every corner of the house,
putting a quick spotlight on family photos, Christmas decorations and point setups, and even more Disney memorabilia, including goofy and Mickey figurines. They check the living room, the bathroom, and a few rooms that look like they're being used for storage, full of tubs and boxes. Wow, this house is jammed packed. We talk about a fire hazard. Then they make their way to Sarah's room. She's recently graduated from high school, but it still looks and feels like a childhood bedroom. Her door is covered with mini-licensed plates that say Sarah, a sign that says Sarah Street, and a sticker that reads caution, Sarah's room. There are lots of mementos on the walls and a Canadian flag hanging from the ceiling, but the two officers are struck by what they don't find anywhere in the house, clues to Sarah's whereabouts. On their way out, the officers go through the kitchen.
There's a clock on the wall, and boxes of crackers stacked up on the fridge. An officer opens up a cookie jar to get a dog treat for buddy. A treat for the good doggy. Besides buddy, the house is empty. We went through the entire house, backyard, everything. There's absolutely nobody home. They leave with the same question they started with, where is Sarah's turn? Well, I guess Neptune's going to have to figure out what their mindset of this kid is. Neptune's going to have to figure out what the mindset of this kid is. So while these officers were going through the Stern's house, all their investigators were tracking down Sarah's dad, Michael. Turns out, he wasn't home because he was on vacation in Orlando, Florida, with his girlfriend. And the phone rang about three o'clock in the morning. The mom of the county shares the apartment.
Do you know anything about a car, you know, great oldsmobile? And I said, yeah, my daughter drives that car, then they hung up. Michael called back, but got an answering machine. He wanted to know what was going on. Why were police asking about Sarah's car in the middle of the night? So he reached out to his nephew, who was a first responder in Neptune. And they asked him if I should find out if anything's going on at the car, whether it was an accident. Didn't know. Maybe the car is, you know, stuck someplace or park someplace where it shouldn't be. No parking zone or, you know, a tow away zone. I didn't know. And he called back a few minutes later and said, yeah, they found the car up on the bridge in Belmar. Naturally, Sarah's dad started calling and texting her, but she didn't respond. I hadn't heard from her. I mean, her text messages on the iPhones are coming back green. So no answer on her phone.
The police pinged Sarah's phone to try and locate it, but nothing came back. All they could see is that earlier in the night, her phone was in Neptune City and another town nearby. The last time Michael Stern says he spoke to his daughter just a day earlier, she'd seemed completely normal. He says he told her about his trip to Disney World, which they both loved. I sent her a couple pictures of the castle and lit up for Christmas at Cinderella's castle. And just happened to be that afternoon, there was a rainbow over the Magic Kingdom. I sent her a picture of that tow and she just said it was great. Michael wasn't sure what to think or how afraid to be until the police called him back after their search of the house. Not in the house, so now we're kind of wondering what's going on. Yeah, I was thinking something happened, so a million things go through your mind.
He quickly packed up his things and began the long drive from Florida back to his New Jersey home. That 3.34 o'clock in the morning is no traffic, so you can drive pretty quick, but talking constantly to the police, they would call them and take calls from the family and they're still looking for Sarah. As he drove down the empty highway in the dark, his mind was racing. What could have happened to his only child? Where could she be? This show is sponsored by Quince. A thoughtfully built wardrobe is all about pieces that mix well and last, that's where Quince shines. Premium fabrics, thoughtful design and everyday essentials, their pieces are effortless and dependable even as the seasons change.
From the shorts leave Mongolian cashmere polos to the linen pants and shorts, their pieces are designed to stay crisp and comfortable, season after season, and Quince works directly with top factories, so you're not paying for any markup or middleman or fancy retail stores. It's all just quality clothes. No matter where you are, whether it's already warm enough that it feels like summer or it's still a bit chilly and damp, like it is here in New York, Quince has the pieces you'll need for the perfect spring wardrobe. Right now go to quince.com slash Bridge of Lies for free shipping and 365 day returns. That's a full year to build your wardrobe and love it and you will. Now available in Canada too. Don't keep settling for clothes that don't last. Go to qunce.com slash Bridge of Lies for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash Bridge of Lies 2020 is partnering with vibes. Open your wireless headphones. That's VYBZ.
If you listen to a lot of true crime, you probably like to listen with a good pair of headphones, but it can be tricky to find a pair that provides great sound quality that's not too immersive. Because when you're out with a podcast during a late night dog walk or a pre-doin run, you don't necessarily want noise cancellation that blocks out the sounds around you. That's why you want to get yourself a pair of vibes. Your perfect companion in audio. They're designed for maximum comfort with ultra lightweight ear buds that just sit outside the ear canal and they offer crystal clear audio. No matter what you're listening to, whether it's your favorite song or a sound rich true crime podcast, it'll come across loud and clear and silky smooth. The battery lasts up to 10 hours per charge and they come in a range of sleek modern colors and styles. So what are you waiting for? Order now and you'll be listening to better sound with better headphones before you know it. For a limited time, our listeners can get more than 60% off a pair of vibes wireless headphones. Just go to abcsecretsavings.com slash 2020. Again, that's abcsecretsavings.com slash 2-0 to zero. abcsecretsavings.com slash 2020.
Opportunities could close apart. It's causing issues in everyone's marriage. My whole world is falling apart right now. It's chaos. Belmar's E Street, which for Springsteen's E Street band is named after, and Asbury Park where the boss's career first took off with hits like Blinded by the Light. A lot of people associate the Jersey Shore with the big parties and the drama in the MTV reality show Jersey Shore. But the area also has quiet, wealthy neighborhoods
with mansions on the water. And then there are the laid-back working class towns of mostly year-round residents like Neptune City. In town, there are a few bars and coffee shops, a handful of Italian restaurants and pizzerias. But other than that, a lot of quiet streets lined with houses. Neptune City, New Jersey, is as small town USA as it gets. It's a small, tight-knit community of people whose families have lived there for generations. Jessica Easthope covered Sarah's disappearance for Files One News, a local news channel at the time. It's a middle and working class community. It's not the fancy Jersey Shore that you're going to get in spring lake. It's more run-of-a-mill sleepy town. But on December 3rd, 2016, it was not a run-of-the-mill sleepy town.
As police worked through the night, word was spreading that a car had been abandoned on a bridge, and its 19-year-old driver was nowhere to be found. Often, when things like this happen, this young woman becomes everyone's daughter. She was missing, nobody knew where she was. It was a 19-year-old girl who would have normally been attached to her phone, and she was off the grid. Sarah and her family were well-known in Neptune City. For decades, her parents had a bookstore in town called Books Unlimited, and for a time, her mom Carla was president of the parent-teacher organization. Sarah spent her whole life in the same neighborhood, the same house. Without any siblings, she really grew up with the kids who lived around her. Her neighbor, Carly Draper, said the two were raised like sisters. They always dropped by each other's houses and played together all the time. My parents had bought a little outdoor table and umbrella that were for kids,
and two little lawn chairs, and we would sit out there all the time in the summer when we were little and just have little pizza rolls and iced tea. My parents got flamingo sprinklers from Costco whenever their arms would go. The water would shoot out and we would just play back there all day long, sitting on the chairs and playing the sprinklers. As Sarah got older, she built a community online too. Like so many teenagers in the 2010s, she expressed herself through her Tumblr account. She shared art, comics, and posts about how great dogs are. She posted about funny, quirky TV shows like Broad City and Bob's Burgers. She shared memes of the comedian Kate McKennan, and things like, as an 19-year-old, I oddly love Target as if I were a suburban mom of four. She was also really into YouTube channels and personalities, just as the platform was starting to take off for content creators. Sarah became friends with other super fans around the world,
and they recorded their Google Hangouts for a YouTube channel called Sprinkle Nonsense. They weren't really talking to an audience. They were just chatting with each other and putting it out there. Sarah, when did you appear? How did you eat? What did you eat? Oh Jesus, I had pork chops and yogurt. Not together as the dessert. Sarah was known for her quirky sense of humor. In a high school yearbook photo, she made a mustache out of her long, straight, dark brown hair, and a few girls next to her joined in. Sarah has brown eyes, and when she smiles, she has big dimples. Belinda Sousa, Sarah's friend and softball teammate, said she had a gift for making people laugh. Sometimes, like when you're with her, you just forget about everything around you, and it's just you and her and whatever funny, crazy story she's telling, and you're just joking.
Sarah was also known throughout Neptune City for her artwork. In high school, she got really into drawing portraits and doing illustrations. She joined her high school's art club and won the most artistic superlative her senior year. She even painted an illustration on the windows of a local restaurant. She did a nice snowman holding an ice cream cone. Her dad said making art might have been a way to cope with grief. Sarah's mom passed away from cancer when Sarah was a sophomore. Her family and friends said she went through ups and downs and struggled emotionally. But Michael said one of her favorite sayings during high school was reckless, optimist. She tried to put that on her cap during the graduation ceremony, and one of the teachers or advisors saying that you have to take that stuff off. Well, she peeled a couple letters off and put them back on when she was waiting to go get her diploma.
She graduated in 2015, and the summer after graduation, Sarah worked as a badge checker at Bradley Beach, a classic job for a Jersey Shore teenager. She took some classes at a community college, worked odd jobs, and was figuring out what to do next. She ultimately wanted to pursue a career in art. When Sarah's car was found on the bridge, she was at the very beginning of her adult life. She was seeking her place in the world, eager to explore, travel, and pursue her passions. Standing outside Sarah's house in the pitch dark, police know Michael Stern is on his way back from Florida, and they've learned that Lillian Stern, Sarah's 96-year-old grandma, is staying at a neighbor's house, recovering from a medical procedure. But they are no closer to finding Sarah. Until they get some new information, Sarah spent the afternoon with a friend.
So officers leave the Stern's house to knock on another door in the middle of the night, hoping for some clues about where Sarah could be. Life is full of choices, but the choice between getting crispy chicken nuggets or a crunch wrap slider isn't one you'll have to make. The new crispy chicken crunch wrap slider at Taco Bell. All white meat chicken nuggets, breaded in tortilla chips, wrapped up sauce and all, inside a slider-sized crunch wrap. Choose from creamy chipotle or jalapeno honey mustard. Well, there we go. Life is still full of choices. The new crispy chicken crunch wrap slider, a brand new classic, only at Taco Bell. And participating in those Taco Bell locations for limited time and loss applies last. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task. Unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business. From designing a website, to marketing, to selling and beyond, Shopify can help with everything you need. There's a reason millions of companies like Mattel, Hines, and Allbirds continue
to trust and use them. With Shopify on your site, turn your big business idea into? Sign up for your $1 per month trial at Shopify.com slash special offer. Welcome back, Grace. You and your sister are here for a very exciting reason. Now, in theaters. Hunters, you haven't told Dom to kill them both. Experience the most unhinged. I'm not playing! Bloody. Diabolically twisted. Movie of the year. Samaritan weaving, Catherine Newton, Elijah Ward, and Sarah Michelle Geller. Back for round two. Yep. But you're not too here I come. We did our under $1,700 out there at no playing only theaters. Police had to another quiet residential street in Neptune City. Just a few blocks from Sarah's house. They knock on the door and dogs start barking. The officers wait a couple of minutes and then see someone coming down the stairs. As the door creaks open, they cut right to the chase.
Is Liam home? Liam McAtasney is the friend officers are looking for. His mom Megan is at the door. She's in pajamas and a robe. And she's groggy from being woken up in the middle of the night. She tells officers that Liam doesn't live in her house anymore. He's a block away. In a small two bedroom house, the McAtasney's also own. Now we're looking for a friend of his that's possibly a missing person and she supposedly hangs out with her. Sarah's starting to see hang out with her. Yes, Sarah's a very good friend. Can you call Liam if you don't mind? While police wait for Liam's mom to call him, another woman walks up to them in the dark. Robin Draper lives across the street from Sarah. Her daughter Carly is one of Sarah's close friends, the one who was like a sister to Sarah growing up. Robin has talked to Sarah's dad, Michael, and managed to track down police in the middle of the night to share some information. She says the last time she interacted with Sarah, the day she
went missing, Sarah dropped off a bin of her mother's things at Robin's house. Okay. She brought over today a bin. Can I bring my mother stuff to your house? So she brought a bin of stuff of her mother's to your house? Taped over and it's in my kitchen. I was out. I said, yes, I'll put it in the cubby. This seems to catch the officer's attention. Robin says it's a big bin taped shut and she doesn't know exactly what's in it. And um, I tried texting her and nothing. The two are close. Robin says Sarah wouldn't leave without telling her. She took care of Sarah sometimes when her mom was sick. And since her mother passed away, Robin says she's taken Sarah to doctor's appointments, the dentist, the gynecologist, even the ER when it seemed like
she had appendicitis. As officers speak with Robin, Liam's mom Megan comes out of the house and says Liam must be sleeping. He's not answering her phone calls. We're going to go not see if we can wake them up over there. The officer turns back to Robin Draper and asks if she told Michael Stern about the bins Sarah brought over. She says no. While they speak with Robin, officers are still considering the possibility that Sarah jumped off the bridge. They're trying to understand her mindset. Is she depressed? Is she? Is she? Not suicidal anyway, do you think? I don't know. All right, we're going to continue this search, though. Liam's on the other block. We're going to go over there now. The officers get in the car and move on to their next stop. Liam McAtezney's house. Counting from 3, 5, 5, 8. I've got it 11 Holly. It's related to this call.
Around 4 a.m., police knock on Liam's door. Liam, you're Liam? You got a second? Can I come in and talk to you real quick? Yeah, no problem. It's Sarah here by chance. The officer step into the house. It's dark inside. There are no lights on. When was the last time he talked to her? He was with her today. What time? I was going to work. So was earlier today? Yeah. The officer turns on a light and he can see Liam more clearly. He's wearing a great t-shirt and shorts. He's tall, six foot two, with blue eyes and wavy blonde hair that's messy. On police body camera footage, it seems like he's just woken up. When was the last time you had any kind of contact at all with her? We went to get food today. Liam and Sarah have known each other since the first grade. They grew up with a tight circle of friends. In middle school, their group even had a name, the squad. As they got older and graduated from high school, Liam and Sarah still hung out pretty regularly.
Do you want to work on what's on? Uh, 4 30. Okay, so you haven't talked to her since 4 30? You have a cell phone. You can reach out to where on? I actually haven't been able to find myself on. Liam says he's been looking for his phone, but can't find it. Keep looking for your cell phone, man, because we're trying to find Sarah. But what was her mindset last time you talked to her? I just know she's been trying to get away. I've been told she's going to Canada. This is the first time officers are hearing that Sarah may have run away. Trying to get away, are you okay? Canada, she's been real depressed lately? Her dad is crazy. It's also the first time they're hearing that Sarah may have had a strained relationship with her dad. The officers only talk to Liam for a few minutes. He says he doesn't know where she is. He says he hasn't heard from her. There's not much more to talk about. As the officers head out, they try to press upon him just how serious this all is.
We've reached out some friends, we've hit our message on social media. We'll start reaching out to somebody, see if anybody's talked to her. Or if they, when they talked to her, what her mindset wasn't all that, right? Playing on getting a phone. And uh, you hear anything called the Neptune City or Neptune Township, please to one of us now. Thank you. When the officers get back in the car, one of them sums up everything they've learned during their middle of the night search for Sarah. It's a muddled picture of Sarah's life and mental state, shaped by their interviews with Robin Draper and Liam McAtasney. She's not getting longer father, so all kinds of emotional issues with her. We got depression, we got all kinds of stuff dealing with here and we got a car on top of our bridge. Officers don't know what to make of the case. Is it a missing person? Is it a suicide? At this point nobody knows. By daybreak, the search for Sarah will accelerate, with divers and rescue boats on the frigid
shark river. And I remember walking in my, my rain boots and it was low tide and I was like in the muck and thinking to myself like we're never going to find anything because she's in Canada. And police will look more closely at Sarah's inner circle, examining friendships, lies, and perhaps even betrayal. You're young. I want to make sure you get how important this is. This young girl is off the grid all of a sudden. How did Sarah simply vanish into the night? If you or someone you know are experiencing suicidal thoughts, substance use, or any other mental health crisis, please call or text the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. You'll reach a trained crisis counselor for free 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can also go to 988 Lifeline.org. Bridge of Lies is a production of ABC Audio and 2020, hosted by me,
Juju Chen, produced by Camille Peterson and Sabrina Fang. Fact checking and production help from Audrey Mastec and Annalisa Lindr. Tracy Samuelson is our story editor. Our supervising producer is Sasha Aslanian, music and mixing by Evan Viola. Special thanks to Katie Dendas, Janice Johnston, Joseph Diaz, and Michelle Marguelis. Josh Cohan is our director of podcast programming, Aiman McNiff, is our executive producer. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? Well, with the name your price tool from Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try it at Progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates, price and coverage match limited by state law, not available in all states. I'm RJ Decker, the private investigator,
uncovering the sunshine state's darkest secrets. Tuesdays, it's the premiere ABC's hottest new crime show. RJ Freakin Decker as I live and breathe. He's a private eye. It's not a standard murder, something and a public mass. Trying to get some back to prison today? You go to prison one time, it's suddenly it's all the jokes. RJ Decker, series premiere, Tuesdays on ABC and stream on Hulu.
More episodes
More from What Happened to Holly Bobo?

Introducing 'What Happened to the McStays?'
What Happened to Holly Bobo?

We're Nominated for a Webby Award!
What Happened to Holly Bobo?

The Appeal
What Happened to Holly Bobo?

Fourteen Days
What Happened to Holly Bobo?