In the Spotlight #77: Frozen

0:00Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of From B.A. to Broadway. You know who it is. It's me. It's Mr. Brandon Steffanick. I'm bringing you some general programming reminders. Folks, every Monday we are here with our main series and every Friday. We are here with our many series in the spotlight. And wow, would you look at that today is Friday. I of course am not alone. I could never do this alone. I am joined by the one and only Mr. Daniel J. Sallie, Danny, what's going on? Was that picture new? Top left. I would say it's been there probably for about six months. Oh my God. Yeah. I guess I just never looked that high. You know, it's up there. Crazy. Love that. Crazy. Insane how that happens. What's going on, Danny?

1:01I'm not too much. I'm trying to think we're starting watching traders UK. Oh, Claudia. That's our new programming. What is your name? Thinklman. You think I know her last name? It's Claudia. I think I need to know her last name. No, that's Claudia. Yeah. That's all I need. First name only Claudia. No, I think it's Claudia. Thinklstein. No, that's definitely. That's way too lame of the last name for her. What is her name? Claudia. Traders UK. Winkelman. Winkelman. Claudio Winkelman. So much whimsy for such a dry gal. Yeah. Yeah. We finished Traders US and now we're on Traders UK, which is my favorite program and I just am so delighted by it. Is everyone else delighted by it? Yeah. Govna. Oi. Oi.

2:01Oi. It's the Trader. We love it. I think, I think, I think you're the Trader is really just all the evidence that I have presented tonight. I really, I don't have any strong evidence against anyone. I'm just, I'm just going with what everyone else is saying. Nothing would make me personal. Nothing personal. Like, it's one thing if you're playing the game and everyone's like, you're a Trader and we're going to vote you out, and then it's like, okay, play the game, save your life, whatever. But, but the round tables when they're like, I don't think it's you, I just don't think it's anyone else either. Yeah. And they vote for you. And it's like, well, come on, man. Yeah. Let's you think it's me. Like, don't vote for me. Spoiler alert for the Traders UK. I recorded this after the fact I will say there have been a lot more exits this season that have been like, I don't really know any of you because it's only been a couple of days. So I don't love you, but I do like you. Oh my God. They're being very realistic this season in terms of interpersonal relationships.

3:04It was quite healthy. I mean, we don't need another more rob situation. We don't ride for anyone's in the Traders. That's their issue. They ride for each other. I'm like, no, you're riding for a Trader. We're a Trader. But we're really, we're rooting for my voice, Stephen. Yes. And we're rooting for your girl, Jade. My girl, Jade. Brandon's girlfriend, Jade and my boyfriend, Stephen. Yeah. Unfortunately, they cannot win together unless she gets recruited. She might get recruited. They're not going to recruit her. I know. She's useless. Yeah. Honestly, she could make it to the end just by being the person you have along. I feel like the second that they have a slow day, she's out. The only reason that like she's not out is because there's always like another pressing person to vote for. But everyone kind of passively is like, oh, yeah, Jade, you know, someone voted for her for every round table. So we might as well keep her on the list. Like she's never really in the hot seat, but she's never not. No. Someone always votes for her.

4:05And all she's done to deserve it is literally nothing. It's just be kind of boring. She's like, I'm just sitting at the table. I don't know what you want from me. I think she's just like has resting bitch face. Yeah. Like she's really suspicious. Amanda was like, I'm sitting across from you and therefore you're guilty. You're the one directly across from me. What's that lady's name? Who's about to start? Who opened Hellfire? They're the name. Oh, Fiona. No. Oh. I can't. Harriet. Harriet just like opened Hellfire, but she said, what was the term? Oh my God. She's like, you're the, you're the wolf and we're the goose or something like that. Yeah. You're the wolf and we're the goose. She made a strong pivot to be the main character and it did not go over. She's like, I've been silent and so I don't think she has the capital. No, she doesn't. I don't think she has the capital. I think she really leaned into her novel writing there for a second and thought it was going to be way different than it actually was. These people really have, you know, like what's her name?

5:08She was like, I was a, I was a PI for 30 years. I know exactly who the traders are. Yeah. I read people for a living and her closest ally was a trader. They, they just get so caught up in their own secrets where they're like, they don't know that I have this advantage about me, but it is just going completely wrong. I'm like on national TV, you're proving that you're actually not good at this. Yes. You're actually the worst one because you're, you're the person you're confiding the most is a trader. That's a good thing. You're retired because you're not getting hired after this, you know? I see a world where Natalie and Stephen take this. Who's Natalie? Is she not the trader? Rachel. Rachel. Who's Natalie? Natalie was on the US. I don't know if there's another yet Natalie. I don't know. Rachel, I think Rachel, Rachel and Stephen, they made a pact and they're pretty loyal to each other. They did. They did. I don't know. Rachel's under fire now. So we'll see. But that's the secret. The secret is to just like be true to a pact with your fellow trader. Yeah. So violence is never pretty. No. And it's never productive.

6:08You know, make the pact that if one has to go for the sake of protecting great, but like yeah, we're not here to backstab. We don't need to do that. Fiona. Fiona. Fiona. Maybe this is the episode. We'll see. Oh. Spoiler alert for the traders. Okay. Oops. I don't know that we had any big spoilers though. We revealed something for me. Yeah. Fiona got voted off. Now that the spoiler, you're welcome. I'm going to insert this in hindsight. So I'm going to go spoiler alert for the traders, UK. I recorded this after the fact. So we're doing a little reversal today, Brennan. What are we talking about? Oh, Daniel. Today, I said, you know what? Let's go for something that will probably be easy. And then it wasn't. Isn't that the way it goes? Yep. Today we're going to be talking about. You probably guessed it. Frozen. The musical. Frozen. The Broadway musical. Music in lyrics by Kristen Anderson and Robert Lopez booked by Jennifer Lee.

7:11They all worked on the 2000 film that the musical is based off of. Oh, wait. Yeah. 2000. 2000. Oh, did I, I didn't finish the sentence. Did I? I didn't say that properly. The truth. The truth. Yeah, you didn't know. The 2013 Disney film. Okay. I was like, I know Frozen's old now, but like, there's no way. You know, I started it and then I stopped reading. 2013? Remember that. Oh my god. That came out during Obama's presidency. I think I was, I was a sophomore in high school. Must have been a junior. And that, I mean, it took the world by storm, man. You know, not me. Okay. I'll tell you. No, I actually, I'm not a hater on Frozen. I like Frozen. I just, I didn't see it until college. Oh, understood. I didn't see it when it came out. Like years and years later and I was like, oh, this is fun. I felt, I mean, like, I feel like, let's see, if I was just off the more, I was probably like, wow, what a silly cartoon movie for girls. Girls.

8:11And then I saw it and I was like, oh, man, that was actually really good. That was really good. That was really good. That was really good. What I'm true love is the love of a sibling. Yes. So if you weren't around in 2013 or have been living under a rock, if you weren't alive in 2013, you should not be looking to this podcast. I'm about to give you a musical synopsis of Frozen, as if you have never heard of it before. So Frozen The Musical, this story is focusing, we got two princesses, Elsa and Anna, their sisters. Of Aaron Del. Of Aaron Del. Yes, the kingdom of Aaron Del. Their relationship, not great because their parents die plot twist and leave them with the responsibility of governing a kingdom. And not to mention the fact that Elsa has unexplained magical ice powers for some reason, that she decides that she needs to hide from everyone including her sister. So the bulk of the story is taking place over these couple of days where Elsa is being coordinated,

9:16coroned, having the coronation of. Having the coronation. They're celebrating Elsa's coronation. Is it queen? Is coordinated of Aaron? Coronated. I don't know. Anyways, she's about to be crowned queen. This kingdom of Aaron Del that has been closed off for so long as all of a sudden open the gates are. Wait, so they closed off until, so when the parents died, they're like, we'll reopen the gates when Elsa can be queen. Yes, or I think they just closed off because they didn't really have a solid governing system. So when this girl turns 18, we have a solid governing system. Exactly. I don't even know if it's 18. It's probably like in their trade agreements for 18 years. I mean, it's going on there. I'm assuming they had trading, but it just wasn't as like, we weren't inviting people over to hang, you know? What year is this? So this is of 2013. This is a fictional movie. I really couldn't tell you. You're like Frozen takes place in the year of 2013. I don't think they had electricity,

10:16but who's to say really before times? Yes. Okay. The ye old Nordic, you know? Okay. This close off kingdom is finally opening its gates. The surrounding nations are flooding in to come in bear witness and celebrate, like the Duke of Lesselton. Yes, indeed. Yes. Anna has been really lonely for a long time. That girl's been going through it. Her sister did not talk to her for reasons unknown to her, but what really happened was as a child, Elsa almost killed Anna with her powers. And then the parents took Anna to what is typically, I think the trolls are the gnomes, whatever you call them, but in this musical version, they are just called the Hidden Folk, this tribe of magical beings that erased Anna's memory and healed her or whatever. And then the parents were like, Elsa girl, you gotta keep this under wraps. So. You don't feel, don't let it go. Indeed. Yeah, exactly. And so she did that after the parents died for years and years and years.

11:17This is the first time Anna has seen her sister since. And so this very lonely girl is very excited to see a lot of people and experience the world around her that she has been shut out from for so long. In true Disney fashion, she immediately has a meet cute with the clumsy printons of the Southern Isles. Throughout the day, Elsa, she's keeping things under wraps. She's doing real good. She takes off her gloves, nothing happens. And then she flies off the handle when Anna comes and asks for her blessing to marry this man that she met earlier that day and the two get into an argument about responsibility and all that jazz and Elsa loses control. So everyone goes into a panic. Elsa flees. She accidentally sets Aaron Dell into an eternal winter. Oh, man, that's true. So Anna chases after her and Hans agrees to stay back and watch over the kingdom.

12:17So this shut-in princess goes off into... Hey, can you watch my kingdom? My God, it goes that a little domestic dispute. It's her true love. She met him earlier that day. What could go wrong? This princess, the shut-in princess goes up essentially the frozen Alps to try and find her sister. She is luckily encountered with the mountain man, Christoph, whose ice business is not really thriving anymore. And his faithful reindeer's fan. So they start guiding her up. They run into Olaf, the magical talking snowman, who is there to provide commentary on the obviously blooming relationship and attraction between Anna and Christoph. And so they're heading up the mountain. Elsa has her, of course, big act one, closing a number of let it go. If you haven't heard the song, go listen to it. It's pretty good. And which she lets her hair down and she builds herself. She builds herself that ice castle, pop off queen.

13:21She builds an ice castle. She does. And then act two opens with a number full of nude norwegians. What? Yes. In the song, Huga, in which Anna and Christoph go to Okin's wandering post. You know, you who big summer blot. Yes. So they get there and he sings, he and his compatriots sing the song Huga, which is just talking. Are you familiar with the Norwegian concept of Huga? No. It's essentially about spatial balance. It's kind of like Feng Shui is what it kind of is. But the white people version. Yes, exactly. The Nordic version. I mean, we should cut what I just said. I think that's fine. Okay. I think I guess also Feng Shui is probably also colonialized by white people at this point. That's also true. Who's to say, but maybe we should cut out me saying we should cut that out and then cut out this part too where I say we should cut out cutting something out. I think it might be funnier if we leave it all in.

14:22Okay, so Huga. Huga. So yeah, so in the middle of the song, at one point, he opens the sauna door and a whole host of nude people come out, covered very delicately by towels. Did they have full frontal nudity on Broadway? No, they just had. It was a situation where they had the towels in front of all of the important parts and the choreography just revolved around that spinning dangerously. You know those bits. It's essentially a full musical number of that. Very jarring, but anyways. So after that, Anna and company finally arrived at Elsa's ice palace where Anna breaks the news to her about the eternal winter and Elsa, once again, that girl loses control. She freaks out and amits. She accidentally frees Anna's heart. Ah! Jacquesuse. Anywho, Christophe rushes Anna to the hidden folk who surprisingly raised him and-

15:24So practically raised him. Plot twist, they come back in an important way and raised him. So they are the trolls from the movie. Yes, it's Grand Fabian company. Fix a rapper, you know. Naturally. And so they inform him that Anna's heart can only be thawed by an act of true love. So he rushes her back to- He rushes her back to Aaron. He rushes her back to Aaron then. So he rushes her to Ilya Rosenev. Indeed. He rushes her to Aaron Dell so that she can reunite with Hans. And so once he finds her- Oh, I know this scene. Yes, she says, Hans, I need true love's kiss. And he reveals, it's a twist. He's the villain all along. He goes, oh, Anna, if only someone here loved you. Oh, my God. I was very- I came myself on a very poorly written way. Geez. And so he reveals that he was just after the throne the whole time.

16:24And this whole debacle he could not have foreseen has just made it even easier for him. And so he sends his men to go capture Elsa. So he's going to let Anna die and Elsa take the fall for everything so he gets to be the good boy. So they capture Elsa. She escapes. There's some big old blizzard. I can't remember why. I will say this part was actually very cool to watch on stage. This was very neat. And Anna throws herself in front of Hans's sword to save Elsa. And it turns out that was the act of true love that then bows on his heart. It shows Elsa that the source of her power was love the whole time. And she's able to end the eternal winter over Erin Del. And everybody but Hans lives happily ever after. Oh, my God. It's gonna cry. I love women. Yeah, women are great, man. I'm always saying that. I love women. Yeah, me too. Anywho. So yes, that is the plot if you've never heard of it before. Let's talk about this production's history.

17:25Got a varied history. Yes. So this movie, as I said, came out in 2013. In January of 2014, the following year, Bob Eiger head of Disney announced that they were in early developments for a Broadway-bound Frozen musical. They can't just let well enough alone. He said, there's no set date because this is a direct quote. We're not demanding speed. We're demanding excellence. I like the quote. Yes, I wish they did. Womp, womp. Well, I didn't see it. Did you see it on Broadway? I didn't see it on Broadway. I saw the tour, which really wasn't that different. But anyways, in 2016, they announced the musical would open in Broadway of spring of 2018, directed by Alex Timbers and choreographed by Peter Darling. It was reported that Betsy Wolf would star as Elsa, but nothing had been officially cast. Yeah. So this animated movie that had seven songs was then turned into a stage musical with 23 songs.

18:26The first developmental lab was in May of 2016. It starred Betsy Wolf as Elsa, Paddy Muren as Anna, Oak, Anatoon as Christoph, and Herculee's Mulligan. Herculee's Mulligan as... I didn't know Oak workshoped what was character. Christoph. Yes. I know that. And Greg Hildrith was Olaf by September of 2016. Michael Grandage was announced as the new director. And the show would premiere on Broadway at the St. James Theater. So they didn't out of town try out at the Denver Center of the Performing Arts in August of 2017. Paddy and Greg remained in the cast with Casey Levy joining as Elsa, Jolani Aladdin as Christoph, and John Riddle as Hans. The show opened on Broadway in March of 2018 with the same cast as the Denver Tryout. And in between 30% of the show was rewritten to delve deeper into the psyches of the princesses

19:28and make it a little bit more suitable for an adult audience because they said, well, 70% of our Disney shows are attended by adults. So we should do the same for Frozen. How did that work out? Well, the production lasted until March of 2020 and shut down due to COVID. And it did not open afterwards. But there was the cast changed over. We got Sarah Renee as Elsa. The closing cast was Sarah Renee as Elsa, Mackenzie Kurtz as Anna Ryan McCartan as Hans and Ryan Redmond as Olaf. That was like Mackenzie Kurtz as a big break. It was, yeah, yeah. She was like 22 fresh shadow Michigan and got cast as the replacement Anna. Good for her. And it was kind of progressive of Disney. Oh, yeah, I mean. The cast was not for Mackenzie Kurtz. Yes. It was really progressive. It was really progressive to cast a beautiful talented blonde woman as Anna. No, it was progressive that they cast a woman as Olaf. Yeah. And also, Sarah Renee as Elsa.

20:30Sarah Renee was also the first black-out. Well, the old, there's only been two else on Broadway. I'm like, the first black-out, all right. There's only a ribbon too. One, one. Yeah. So yeah. The show did not perform well. It did not go wildly successfully. And for the millions of dollars it cost to produce, it was not making that back. Plus, they had also the financial strain of the fact that they were running three Broadway shows concurrently. And so they said Lion King and Aladdin are still going strong. Goodbye, Frozen. And so that was the end of its Broadway life. Ooh, won't fall. Yeah. So it then went on tour from 2019 to 2024, starring Caroline Bowman as Elsa and Caroline Inambicular as Anna in 2022. Mackenzie Kurtz and Ryan McCartan came in and reprised their roles together for a little bit. And then we also had productions in Australia, Singapore,

21:30the Netherlands, the West End who received the pro shot, which is now on Disney Plus. How did you know that? Yes, so they, I mean, the full production is viewable on Disney Plus. So it's Samantha Barks, right? I don't know, I don't remember if I'm being honest. Probably. Yeah, it was. And there are still productions running in Germany and Japan. Oh my God. I was nominated for three Tony Awards and four Olivier's but did not win any. However, it did receive the Drama Desk Award for outstanding puppet design. Okay. Which I'll give it to them all off. And this fan puppets are very cool. Very neat. And that is the life of Frozen, the musical. Yes, so it's fine. I will say it's fine. You know, you watch Frozen kind of for the most part. Vibes are a little different. You can tell they're definitely trying to make it more serious. Trying to get into the psyche of Elsa. Yes, the very, there's that monster song. Yes, which is fine.

22:32You know, it's fine. Stage magic was pretty cool. There were some pretty cool moments. I mean, I only know bits and bobs of the Broadway production and bootlegs. I got to say that dress change is really cool. So cool. It is so cool. I don't know how they, I don't know how they do it. Yes, and I mean also born from that and the releasing of the rights as all of the dress changes that don't go well, which we're at graced with. I think that Elsa just changed and let it go is an incredible piece of stage magic. I think that the rest of the number, I'm like, where was your budget? She is creating an ice castle and there is nothing on the stage. Do you agree with that? Yeah. Where is, like, this is Disney. We have endless money. The cruise ship looks better. She's like on that state, on that state case that's like levitating or whatever. I'm like, that looks cooler than what they do on Broadway. In Disneyland, they have a theater there called the Hyperion where they do like miniature productions.

23:35They did a production of this as well, but also did look better. So it's like, where is the imagination for Broadway? You, like, what a cool problem to have as like a scenic designer. I'm like, oh, this woman is creating an ice castle on stage. Yes. And they kind of just like flopped it. And you know what I really, really just, I pretty much only know let it go from the Broadway version. I've seen a group of anything else. I hate the ending of let it go in the Broadway. The opt-up or? I hate the opt-up. Interesting. I think it is so diagetically opposed to the words that the intention of the whole song. Yeah. Like, she's saying it didn't bother me anyway while she's going up. You, like, it just like the phrase needs to end and you have the big note. We have the big impressive note and then they're like, stay up there. I'm like, no, go down. And also, I mean, I just got to say at the, in the movie,

24:37at the end of it, it goes to call never bothered me anyways. But it happens while she's walking away and then she does a turn over the shoulder and she goes to call never bothered me anyway. I need to know, I've run to know Brennan is reenacting of the turn. I feel like I'm not going to do it. Of course, I'm going to do it. It's iconic and honestly, powerful, powerful on its own. And I just, I really, it just feels very much like, oh, you're trying to go for a big Broadway finish. I suppose to like, this song was written really well. It was already, but you didn't have to reinvent the wheel. The wheel was invented with the song. Yeah. That's my beef with it. I will say there is an incredible bootleg. I am a Sarah when I stand. Oh, my God, she's so good. There is an incredible bootleg of her doing let it go. Her voice is, just as for her, every fucking thing she does gets shut down early. Like frozen and then waitress got shut down early because of COVID-2, she needs, she needs a full run in something.

25:37But I would have loved to see her as Elsa. Yeah. Patty Miran recently reprised Ana at the Muni. Yeah. The Guthrie. I think one of those, one of those too. Yeah. Like last year. Go for her. And who did it? It was someone else famous to do the Elsa. Oh, I don't know about the Elsa. Um, what's her name? I'm blanking on her name. I'm a picture of her in my head. I don't remember. Yeah, pretty much like anyone who has played Elphaba. Was it Mary Kate? Are you thinking of Mary Kate Marcy? Yep. She just did it at Paper Mill. Oh, okay. Pretty much if you've played Elphaba, you play Elsa. Understood. It's the same thing. Yeah. Same bullshit. It's Adina Manzell. Adina Manzell. It's Adina Manzell. It's written as that, you know, that Belty, Belty, Belty. Mm-hmm. So we've gotten some fun Elsa's. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's a cool opportunity. It's iconic roles that you get to play in a Disney stage musical at the end of the day. Yeah.

26:37And this had the, I mean, it had the ability to run forever if it was done properly. This could have been the quintessential family show on Broadway, you know, and it's tough. It's tough to look at that and go like, you had everything back. Yeah. You had everything in the palm of your hands. What happened? The cold bothered them. The cold bothered them anyway. It did. They were cold. They were shivering. Check me out. I mean, I remember even at the Tony Awards, they had her come out to do let it go. They didn't do the fucking chest chain. Like the coolest part of your show, you're gonna do the sequence without doing the cool part. Yeah. Why are we doing that? It's also human operated too. Like they could have come. What had, do you know how they do it? So basically, there were slatted stairs. Behind said stairs, there were wardrobe members. The seams were all magneted. So when you yank it, it just comes right off.

27:39And the fabric was all light enough where it could do so quick and kind of melt away. Oh. It's costume magic, it truly is. Also, magnets and seams can be very difficult and very tricky. So I'm sure she had to move so carefully and so specifically. Right. I would imagine that would easily come apart just from moving. Yeah, also she's wearing layers in that too. So like she must have been so precise. They did do the neat thing where she removes the glove and it blows away. That is a cool moment. That's very neat. I like that. So I will say that kind of stage magic. I thought was really nice. And like I said, the end, the Anna freezing into that kind of frozen statue. It was all done with people and projections onto. So all of the ensemble were wearing white costumes and being projected on. And they kind, there was like this little queer grabbed movement moment where like, Anna came in and froze and they all formed around her to like compile into like this icy sculpture. It was really cool.

28:40I will say that was neat. And they did that in the other productions and on Torah as well. They were able to keep that. So that was really neat. I do think one of the things that was playing against them, I'm gonna say that in quotations because I do think they could have figured a way around it. Is that like with Aladdin, they are able to achieve cool stage magic because they own the theater and can really renovate the booths, the house down. But with the St. James, they were renting the space to put this production in. How did they do the carpet in Aladdin? That is a government secret. You said that and a little red dot appeared on my forehead. You can tell me though, we can cut that part out. I of course can. I literally, I've joked about it with the Aladdin people that have come on and they're like, we can't, we can't do it. We're like, don't even choke. Literally, there's three red dots that appeared on my forehead in the shape of Mickey Mouse. He's out there with a, there's a Mickey shape to drone outside my window right now. Oh my god, oh my god. He's like, this kid's a liability. Keep your mouth shut.

29:42Uh-huh. So yeah, I mean, it had potential. It has a life. It does have a life. I mean, it has a very, yeah. They're making bank regionally. At the end of the day, any regional theater or summer stock theater can put that on a marquee and the families of the area are gonna flock to it. Yeah. And like also, that'll probably be received way better. And they, they are able to kind of navigate the mistakes that were made prior and do some cool stuff with it. I've seen, I mean, I have seen videos of some really cool productions of like people really, people are so freaking obsessed with elsewhere in pants. I don't know why it is such a big point for people that she wear pants. A jumpsuit, hell yeah. That's female empowerment is a jumpsuit. We love it. But yeah, so that's kind of frozen the musical. The, in terms of like music and stuff, they added a bunch of songs. Everyone kind of gets a solo song moment.

30:43So Anna has a solo song, Christoth and Hans both have one. Really? Hans does a solo song. He does. So when they meet immediately in the beginning, he's like, I'm so sorry. Like I, you shouldn't be embarrassed. I should be embarrassed. I'm an embarrassing person. Here's my, yes. It's called Hans of the Southern Isles. And then Christoth has a song. It's a quick one. Yes, Christoth has a song called Christoth's Lullaby that he sings and he also has a duet with Anna called What Do You Know About Love. That's a fun one. Everyone will say, that's a fun song. That's a good cabaret duet moment. Elsa has monster. And she also has another song called Let It Go. Yes, that one. What is it? It's, it's, it plays with the musical undertones of like the conceal, don't feel situation. What was it called? Conceal, don't feel, don't let the outside of you guys well run on. It's called Dangerous to Dream.

31:44So yeah, there's, it's neat that people get some more opportunity in this. Can I say any of them are really good book songs? Not necessarily. I do think there are things that would do better for you or whatever you would be portraying. If you wanna just have it in a Disney section, if you're someone that's gonna be going in for Disney things a lot, great. But especially with the princesses, I think there is something that would probably serve you better. I feel like in summer's a good character song for any character actors or puppeteers if you're an all-off type, great. Put it in your Disney section, your character section. Awesome. But other than that, I'm not really passionate about anything, you know. Honestly, I feel like you get more bobs in Frozen 2 than you get in Frozen on Broadway. So, oh my God, that's a statement. I'll say it. I always forget John Thingrauff is in the Frozen cinematic universe. John Thingrauff is fully a Disney print. John Thingrauff is Christoph. He is Christoph. You know Jeremy Jordan audition for that part too.

32:45Oh, interesting. Get it. Well, I feel like if they did a live action, he could be a good choice. Yeah, I should be John Thingrauff. He's a lulled. He's sold for that. Oh, he's told. He is. He's got the voice. Oh, for sure. That's a, that's an iconic voice cast. It really is. Like Adina, Kristen Bell, John Thingrauff, Josh Gads. Who plays Hans? Who's the voice of Hans? Oh, Orlando? What's, no. Santana, what's his name? Oh, Santino Fontana is Hans. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. What a cast. What a cast. What a cast. They, that, you know what? I'll say it. Nobody said it. So I'll say it. Great movie. You know, one of my first gigs out of college was this off Broadway parody musical called Wicked Frozen, which was a combination of Wicked and Frozen. And you know what? There are a lot of parallels.

33:46And the two, the two leads were their names. It was El Sabah and Glendana. That's iconic. That is kind of iconic. It was kind of fun. And then it was like, what was it? It was, I think the Kristoff character and they morphed Kristoff in Bach. And then there was Hans and Fiero. Okay. I guess that tracks. And then, and then there was a character called the Happy Snowman. That was just Olaf. It was, yeah. It's kind of just like Olaf. Yeah. Olaf, the Dr. Dilliman. Yeah. I mean, the, the, the Anna, the Elsa, I mean, the Elphaba, Glinda, Anna, Elsa pipeline just feels so streamlined. Like that feels like a easy copy and paste. But Elphaba, Elphaba, Elphaba, Elsa, Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

34:47Those are just parallel in a way where like, if you're book in one, you'll be able to book the other for the rest of your life, you know. Yeah. I think Anna and Glinda a little less so. I think it would, I think it, I think it's good. I guess Paddy Miran was a Glinda. I think, I think anyone that I think they could do it. Either way. I choose Torch, Linda. Wow. Good for her. The more you know. The more you know. Anyways, that's frozen. That's frozen. Ooh. I'm so cold. It's a bird. Good thing. You know. It's a good thing to know if you are like going on the cruise circuit too because they're always auditioning for that. Yeah. I mean, it's happening. It's happening. And it's happening now. It's happening. In the past couple of years since the rice were released, people are doing it all over and you know what? They always will be. Yeah. They always will be. You could be the next Elsa. Yeah. You could be the next Elsa in your regional theater production, your local regional theater production. Okay. Take the endown. Be brave. Turn over that shoulder.

35:47I want you to walk away. I want you to turn over that shoulder. I want you to say it. Never bothered me anyway. So briefly. I don't. I don't want any sustenance on that last note. I want. I want a nice staccato ending. I want. Anyway. That's what I want from you, okay? Yeah. And leave them wanting more. Speak the lyrics. Leave them wanting more and then go ham on monster. There we go. That's the solution. Yeah. Anywho, folks, if there's a certain show you want to hear us talk about, you can want us know by finding us over on the Patreon. That is patreon.com slash be it a Broadway. All of our principle to your Patreon members gets to choose the shows we talk about. Also, if there's anything else you would like to see on the Patreon, if there's any form of other bonus content that you're hankering for. Oh, what kind of bonus content are you talking about? I don't know. I would like to offer more. I want to to make the Patreon like an actual space where people can come and get more than just add free episodes or whatever. You know, if there's any behind the scene things you would like or like any tutorials or

36:47anything you would like, I can. If you want us to just do a running commentary of every trader's episode, we will. We will. We will. We're willing to do that for the people we know what they want. Yes. Um, let me know. You can, honestly, you can, you can comment on any post, you can DM me, let me know, or message me on Patreon, whatever. You let me know. As always, you can find us on most social media platforms at V8 Broadway. You can find me at Brennan Steffanick. You can find me at D-Salls. And until next week, folks. Bye. From V8 Broadway is created, produced and edited by Brennan Steffanick, Music by Dylan Kaufman in Cover Art by Jordan Vong Seafy.