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1:01This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling? Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from one of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home an auto. Bundling. Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Charlie's conflict with the mobbidly obese YouTuber, Nicocardo Avocado, would go down as one of the most infamous controversies in YouTube history. From clickbaiting his content and faking injuries for views, all the way to filing false copyright strikes on smaller creators resulting in termination. It goes without saying that Nicocardo Avocado has one of the most controversial histories on YouTube. Hi, I'm the internet anarchist. I create weekly YouTube documentaries. And today, we'll be looking into the most notorious mukbang YouTuber on the platform. Nicocardo Avocado, a YouTuber who is willing to do anything for views, even if that means destroying his health,

2:03relationships and getting into a massive controversy with one of YouTube's biggest commentary channels, Penguin Zero. Mukbang videos have become an increasingly popular genre on YouTube. The videos involve creators filming themselves eating copious amounts of food while making jokes, telling stories and developing relationships with their audience. While the nation originally started in South Korea, mukbangs would quickly spread across the globe with several millions of viewers tuning in to watch their favorite creators binge on junk food. One of the most infamous mukbang creators in the platform is Nicocardo Avocado. Whilst on the surface at major same as channelers videos of a morbidly obese man feeding into his habits, it goes a lot deeper. His channel documents the decay of a man willing to risk it all in the pursuit of viral success and internet fame. This very pursuit would be what would land Nicocardo in a massive controversy with Penguin Zero. Okay, Charlie. But Nicocardo Avocado wasn't always like this. Nicocardo started his content creation journey back in 2014, where he would focus on veganism

3:03and improving his violin skills. He emphasized the benefits of his plant-based lifestyle and criticized the meat industry. Alongside that, he was a genuinely accomplished violinist showcasing complex arrangements on his channel. Vigilism Initially, veganism seemed to be positive for Nicocardo, adding in weight loss and maintaining a slim figure. However, this soon turned problematic. He later revealed in a podcast that veganism brought immediate health issues. No. And also, I don't think skinny always means healthy. I actually... Honestly, Tricia... Yeah. Everyone sees my old videos when I was skinny and they think I was just this beacon of health. I rotted a tooth. I had low B12, B12 deficiency. My drive was terrible. Really? I wondered that. Okay. Terrible. I developed hypoglycemia. I don't know if it's directly related to the veganism, but I never had that before. Nicocardo also found the 2016 online vegan community

4:05to be extremely toxic, lading him to abandon veganism and the vegan YouTube community. After a month's break, Nicocardo introduced non-vegan mukbang videos onto his channel. Despite initially incorporating meat, his diet remained relatively healthy, often featuring vegetables and rice. So, I'm gonna have... This is... Oh, that's not that hot. I'm gonna pick it up with me. Oh, yeah, just look at that. Despite being new to the genre, Nicocardo would find relative success with his first upload, stating, one of my friends told me to try it out. I thought she was crazy. Who on earth is going to watch me eat food? Sure enough, my very first mukbang got like 50,000 views in a couple of weeks, which was a lot for me at the time. And everybody was asking, when's the next mukbang? The initial success would turn the one-off video into the main theme of his channel. And with the main theme of his channel being mass food consumption, aka mukbang, his weight would also begin to increase. In Sunny V2's video covering Nicocardo's transformation, he mentioned a case study

5:05which revealed a dark psychology behind the seemingly innocent content. In the psychology of mukbang watching published in January 2020, the study found that the viewers' vicarious pleasure demanded a large quantity of unhealthy food to be consumed. The authors also claimed that mukbang videos affect viewers' perception of food consumption and thinness because mukbangers who were very thin and slim consumed very large portions of food and did not gain weight, which is without a doubt the spell that Nicocardo avocado had found himself under. With that knowledge in mind, it wouldn't be a surprise that Nicocardo would begin to introduce not only more food into his mukbangs, but also replace the previously healthy food with fried and processed junk, with each video progressively getting more and more unhealthy. School life as a kid, it was sad, it was lonely, it was fun, I played violin, I didn't have many friends, I hadn't good friends and I lost them, I got new friends because their click changed, that was cool enough, or I changed my friends because... It seems like the more weight Nicocardo gained,

6:07the more emotionally unstable he would become, with his videos going from lighthearted to distressing. Things would take a negative turn on the 18th of December 2019, where Nicocardo would upload a collaboration video with popular mukbang YouTubers, Zach Choi and Stephanie Sue. I just forgot to wait! I heard a link. Whilst there was nothing alarming about the video itself, it would be the video that Stephanie personned four days later, that would change the public perception for Nicocardo. In the video titled, Why I'm Scared of Nicocardo of Acado, Stephanie Sue would share a negative experience working with him and being around Nicocardo, with one of the first points she brought up being his alleged manipulation. The past couple of days have been felt with just a lot of manipulation, in particular manipulating my own words against me

7:10to make me do things that I don't want to do and I don't feel comfortable doing. She would also go into claim that Nicocardo uses platform to bully and threaten her. And a lot of Nicocardo avocado using his platform to threaten me. Low energy, unfocused, foggy, you might be dehydrated. Gatorade zero powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body, with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration, no matter where you're going, shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration, consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use indeed sponsor jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications, and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes.

8:13Listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsor job credit at ND.com slash podcast. That's indeed.com slash podcast terms and conditions apply. Need a hiring hero? This is a job for indeed sponsor jobs. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling, smart move, another smart move. Getting help from one of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home an auto. Bundling. Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. And to bully me at this point, my home safety is kind of in question. So normally I wouldn't talk about stuff like this or make a video on it. I've been pretty vocal that a lot of things can just be soft offline, but because of how extreme things have gotten recently, I just want to share my side. The video was over 47 minutes long

9:15and garnered over 15 million views with Comments and Support of Stephanie stating, He's a fool on bully. What a disgusting excuse of a person. I'm sorry this happened to you, Stephanie. He's the type of framerate keeps track of every bad thing you did during the friendship with screenshots so he can expose you later. As well as, Nick is so disgusting, the fact that he had to apologize is even more sad. I feel bad for you. You're so strong, Nick is such a bully. Nickercada was already disliked by most, but it would be this video that would turn the entire mukbang community against him with his channel's growth taking a complete stop for the following two months. Despite all of the negative attention, Nickercada's views didn't go down. They actually increased, which reinforced the idea that any attention is good attention for his channel. As within three months, he was already seeing significant growth, but with the growth of his channel also came the growth of his belly as he would go from being very fat to very, very fat, which would lead to Nickercada going on drama alert to discuss his various white problems. You gotta get on a diet, man.

10:16If you're bending over to pick up his sock and spreading your ankle, you gotta lose some weight, buddy. It's the war. I mean, there's some problems, definitely. I can't see my, more when I pee. I have to like, see what's going on down there. You know, there's some, there's a lot of different issues sleeping in the middle of it. Be a little rough. I have to sleep with this big old machine to pump some air into me. You know, my gut chin is literally choking me to death. So I mean, there's some struggles for sure. But I think I should be fine. It's just gonna keep getting worse, buddy. His health would continue to further deteriorate, leading to a video titled, returning to the hospital, I'm scared. Where in the video, Nicarca would address his recent health concerns with his viewers. First time to hit now, probably broke it. We have to see what they say. I'm hoping it's like, well, it's, I don't know. Ouch, Ouch. Okay, keep my arm still, Nick. I'm hoping it's just one of those things. It's like it's a minor crack, but it'll heal in a week.

11:17I don't know anything about this. Ouch. It hurts to burp. Oh my god, my career's gonna come tumbling down. By this point, the entire internet was growing concerned for Nicarca, despite having a polarizing history on the platform, no one wanted to watch this main eaters way into a coffin in real time. This leads us to air Pingurun Zero, who I'll be referring to as Charlie enters the video. On the 30th of September 2021, Charlie would upload a video titled, This YouTuber is slowly, for views, where he would talk about Nicarca, is dissent into morbid obesity. I'm sure you've heard of. I've talked about him before. A lot of people have. He's been a big name on YouTube for a while. His name's Nicarco Avocado. If you're on Twitter, you've probably seen poll floating around pretty often. For some reason, it was a big trend in meme to just post Nicarco Avocado content all over Twitter. So I've seen his poll more times than I've seen him doing his mukbangs. For those of you who don't know Nicarco Avocado is a mukbang YouTuber. It's primarily what he does.

12:17Mukbangs are when you just eat on camera. That's about it. Later in the video, Charlie would showcase Nicarca's recent unusual content. This is from his most recent video. This is kind of what his content has become. I want to have become disabled if it weren't for you people who encouraged these videos. This is $10. Ouch, my reds. How many months are we gonna have to enter this pain? All right, let's go for this. Ooh, this definitely looks cheesier. This one. And I'm allergic to this one too. No. But sometimes in life, you just want what you can't have. I'm not allowed to have garlic or lots of onions or durian.

13:19Now to anyone that's familiar with this creator, you'll probably think that this is nothing special. This just looks like every other video he's ever made just with less crying. You've probably even seen Nicarco avocado around other parts of the internet. If you don't even know who he is, you've probably seen some of his clips. He usually will eat something and then just start breaking down into tears and crying about something. He's notorious for constantly crying. This is where Charlie begins to make his made points on Nicarco. The first of which, being how he blames his audience for his white gain. Outside of making some of the most revolting noises, I've heard him quite some time while undergoing some kind of exorcism, he said, it's your fault for encouraging these videos. Now he says shit like this pretty often. And it shows me that there's still some self-awareness deep within him somewhere, locked deep away. But that rational side of him, he keeps buried, locked in a cage and still does this content. Following this, Charlie would then explain the origins of Nicarco and the reason

14:20why his transformation is partially his audience's fault. Nicarco, avocado, didn't start as this kind of channel. Even four years ago, 2017, so four years ago now, he was a very healthy person. He seemed to be pretty mentally, you know, sound. He wasn't breaking down on camera all the time and going wild and crazy from what I remember. He was even extremely good at an instrument. I think it was the via Lin if I remember correctly. He was a vegan. He was just preaching some really positive stuff. But then he started to notice that the videos that gained a lot of traction or video, low energy, unfocused, foggy, you might be dehydrated. Gatorade zero powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body, with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration, no matter where you're going, shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade, hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration, consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist.

15:23When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use Indeed Sponsored Jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsor job credit at and D.com slash podcast. That's indeed.com slash podcast, terms and conditions apply. Need a hiring hero? This is a job for Indeed Sponsored Jobs. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling, smart move, another smart move. Getting help from one of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto, bundling. Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. It was where he was just fucking gluttonous and eating a million calories per sitting.

16:24So he stuck with it. And now he has a couple of channels where he does this pretty much every day and it's been like this for the last four so years. This is what he used to look like in 2017. And then when the videos really started to gain traction, he gained over 200 pounds in the last couple of years. And it's absolutely true. It's the audience's fault for this. They created what Nakato avocado has become. Obviously it's not all their fault. He is making the conscious decisions to completely throw away his health and well-being, which has now led to his disability, which he claims to have. Again, Nakato avocado is not the most reliable narrator. He makes a lot of shit up sometimes. So whether or not he actually now has a disability, it's anyone's guess. Later in the video, Charlie would discuss the various injuries Nicarcato claimed to have. He claims to have three broken ribs, which is attributed to his incredible weight gain, incredible being the wrong word, really just astonishingly upsetting weight gain that he's been putting on recently. He claims that the weight of his body

17:25has now broken a few of his ribs, which now has been bedridden. I think he also claimed that now have to have a full time nurse in order for him to just engage in day-to-day activities. And he also has been diagnosed with sleep apnea, I believe, which is why you'll see on his most recent thumbnails. He has like that machine hooked up to his nose that makes him look like some kind of cyborg from the future or something. But next, Charlie would make the main point of the video, that Nicarcato avocado is ultimately deleting himself for YouTube views. It seems to be really be going downhill quickly for him. People have been saying for the last couple years that Nicarco avocado is literally whosel for YouTube views, and it's absolutely true. He is slowly self-indocumenting the journey the entire time while having an understanding of exactly what he's doing. He's well aware that he is throwing away his health, his well-being, his happiness, for the sake of some YouTube views because his audience continues to eat it up. Towards the end of the video, Charlie would go over Nicarcato's sad attempts at losing weight and his disability due to it. For those of you who aren't aware,

18:26Charlie has a bachelor's degree in human sciences and physiology, which gives him a level of credibility when discussing health-related topics. He's also been saying for a little while now that he's going to be losing some weight, his weight loss journey has begun, but what ends up happening is for every pound he loses, he gains 10 more. I didn't play much of the video here, but he even mentioned that he even goes on to say after the year-fault speech that he started his weight loss and he lost a pound, but then gained three more because he wanted to please his audience with more videos or something like that. So it's just truly a pretty awful thing to see. The final point of Charlie's video highlights how both critics and fans of Nicarcato's content inadvertently fuel his tendencies to push the boundaries even further, creating a dangerous cycle of turning his unhealthy behavior into a source of income. The last six days he's posted a video each day talking about his disability and his new diet with it. And each one, he has tons and tons of food from different places and it's not clickbait. He really eats all of that food. Very rarely does he not finish his plate.

19:26He usually finishes it or gets very close to it. Almost nothing goes to waste. It goes right into Nicarco, avocado's guts. And one thing you may have also noticed from that screenshot is his views are high, which is exactly why it does it. Yeah, most of them have more dislikes than likes. But even on the one I showed you, that's still like 4,000 likes. So there are 4,000 people dropping a fat like, leaving an encouraging comment. And he's usually peddling some merch. So the shirt you see him wear, he immediately pins in a comment for you to buy them. And I imagine he sells quite a few shirts. Even the people that get in there just to dislike or just tune in to watch the train wreck, that's more views for him. That's more engagement that helps him. And that keeps him on this wagon, keeps him going. The video would go into gain over 16 million views, and spoke the words that many of the YouTube community was silently thinking. But unlike your typical expose or generic commentary video, Charlie's Dissection of Nicarco, avocado, had a sombering tone, one that felt like he was genuinely concerned for Nicarco, as well being and future.

20:28And the comments would reflect this. I feel so bad for Nick, he probably thinks he won't die. This is insane. I've seen his clips here and there. Didn't realize just how unhealthy it would come over the last couple of years. Since I haven't really followed it, I don't see this stopping before it's too late. Very sad. As well as every single second I see of him, it makes me feel terrible. Hope he gets to help he desperately needs. Despite the overwhelming amount of comments wishing the best for Nicarco, he would ultimately view the video as a direct attack, leading to a defensive response video the same day, titled, My Response to Pinkwyn Zero's video about me, disabled mukbang. The video would start with Nicarco, claiming that Charlie said he didn't have the right to exist due to his weight. This person thought it would be cute to sit down on the computer and talk about my weight and my appearances and to fixate on how I look as if I don't have the right to exist because I happen to be, because I happen to be a little overweight,

21:31because I happen to have a little water weight, because I happen to be a little fluffy. This is an unfluffy person, unfluffy. Following this, Nicarco would share how despite looking healthier and skinnier in his older furters, he was actually extremely unhealthy. He said something about me being vegan. Oh, look, he was so skinny and he showed photos of me when I had just rotted a tooth out of my face, how to get surgery, what had such low iron levels that I was anemic, that I had low libato, that I had brain issues. Nicarco than highlighted how Charlie at Nicarco in this video requested his audience to refrain from harassing him about his appearance or weight. Low energy, unfocused, foggy, you might be dehydrated. Gatorade zero powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body, with a clinically proven electrolyte blend

22:32and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration, no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration, consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use indeed sponsor jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications, and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsor job credit at nnd.com slash podcast. That's nnd.com slash podcast, terms and conditions apply. Need a hiring hero? This is a job for indeed sponsor jobs. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling, smart move, another smart move. Getting help from one of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto, bundling.

23:33Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Tim, don't make fun of his appearance. Don't make his health upset. Send him some support for nothing. Nicar Cotta would then make the claim that Charlie was trying to sensationalize unfortunate situation for views. People with the numbers on the screen, bigger number, better person, everyone's so desperate to squeeze as much milk as possible from those beautiful. Oh, oh, let's look at his thumbnail. Shall we? Let's see what he's trying to achieve with my face. Like this and a title like this. This YouTuber is so lonely. Can't get himself reviews. So are you trying to play the high and mighty game all in your pedestal that you're not trying to squeeze something out of something? Yes, let's sensationalize things about me at my expense.

24:36I don't even know who you are. Nicar Cotta would reiterate on the fact that his health can't be judged by how skinny he is, stating, first of all, who are you to say that I was healthy? Because I was skinny. Does skinny equal healthy? Yes or no? Can you look at a person and say, oh, you're thin. Therefore, you must be healthy. You don't know what my blood work looks like. You don't know what my work looks like. Let me tell you something. I might have been skinny, but I lost a tooth. I leached calcium for my bones. I had bad health because I was deficient and various nutrients on vegan diets that nearly set me to a hospital. And I had problems with my liver. I had our deficiency. I was supplemented to be 12 and couldn't retain it. And I had to get injections in my butt. And I had a little bit of a hole. But because I was thin, you have the authority to let everyone know that I was perfectly healthy. I was very healthy. And now he's just stride his body.

25:37Nicar Cotta would then state that one of the furthers Charlie displayed to show him as healthy was actually shortly before he went to a hospital. This video, I was on Orange Juice fast. And I was so underweight, so underweight that I had to go to the hospital on an IV. This photo here, you can see every bone in my body. I'm smiling, I'm skinny. But this shallow individual, apparently, that's all that matters. And that means that since I've gained a little extra weight, I might be a little bit fluffy. But that means that he needs to circle around and be like, well, he's so fat, he's dying. He's dying. Did I ever say I was dying? Did anyone else say that? What, who, my doctors, my dietitian? I have a dietitian looking after me. Mr. Later in the video, Nicar Cotta would claim that Charlie was spreading misinformation by making the claim as disabilities a farmer's diet. When according to Nicar Cotta, there would be pre-existing health conditions.

26:38Another key argument Nicar Cotta made was claiming that Charlie didn't do enough research before diving into a dedicated video on the topic. If you were an actual viewer, what you're not, which is fine, but then usually you deal with a research before you make content on your page. Spine, if you don't view me regularly, that's fine. That's fine. Leave a comment, leave an opinion, but to make an a dedicated video to sadden people to me, if you watch, you would know that I barely eat. I barely eat my food. I eat so full, I don't do not. I know I indulge a little bit. I'm a little bit overweight. I'm a little bit on the fluffy side. I made jokes out of it. It's just waterway. I know it's not all, mostly it is water. But yeah, there's a little non-water in there. But I have big presentations, because this is fun. I like it big. I like it exciting. I like to taste test different things. I like various options. What if I don't like what I'm eating? There's something else to grab from. I like making this a treat for the viewers. I come every single day to share stories

27:41and to entertain people and share my life, to share some of what else is life, to talk about whatever, to talk about the food, to help people calm down after work, to give someone a laugh when they're going through a divorce. I'm there for people every day. It's not even about the food. It's really not. I barely eat. That's the number one criticism I get. Actually. Despite the video actually having some decent arguments, it would be received extremely negatively, garnering 73,000 dislikes in comparison to just 14,000 likes. And the comment section would reflect this, with viewers stating, skinny doesn't equal healthy. Vegan doesn't equal healthy, but constantly doing mukbangs certainly does not equal healthy either. There's no way this is who truly are Nicocardo. People just want to see you exist for a long time. Chali's intentions would help you, not attack you. As well as, Chali is not making fun of you. He is genuinely concerned for your health. The following day, Chali would upload a video titled, My Response to Nicocardo Avocado, where he would admit his wrongs

28:41and also create can arguments to Nicocardo's video. At there are some things that he does bring up that I think are definitely worth talking about. But first of all, I'd like to say congratulations to Nic. It looks like his broken ribs are healing pretty well because he starts this video by stomping into the room. And I also checked his TikTok. He's been going kinda hard. So it looks like his broken ribs seem to be doing better now. Shivers. Little sticks. Who is this? The first point Chali made was in regards to Nicocardo's alleged broken ribs. In regards to his broken ribs and his response video,

29:42he said I was completely lying and that his broken ribs had nothing to do. Low energy, unfocused, foggy, you might be dehydrated. Gatorade zero powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body with a clinically proven electrolyte plant and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration, no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration, consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use Indeed Sponsored Jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications, and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsor job credit at ND.com slash podcast. That's ND.com slash podcast, terms and conditions apply. Need a hiring hero?

30:42This is the job for Indeed Sponsored Jobs. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling, smart move, another smart move? Getting help from one of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home an auto, bundling. Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Do with weight gain, which surprised me because I actually got that information from one of his recent videos. I'll just go ahead and play the clip. And before you bake fun to me, please try to put yourself my shoes. I cracked my ribs. A bitch. This fucking air sack from coffee and excessive leaf over two and a half months and my obesity, all 350 pounds of forced. I didn't reach into my butthole

31:43and pull this out of nowhere. I got the information from him. So I don't understand why in his response video, he makes it sound like I'm lying about so many things. Like he himself said his cracked ribs were the result of coughing for the last two months and his obesity, 350 pounds of pressure, whatever he said there. I didn't make that claim. I didn't make that up. It came from him. And you can just click on this video and it's right in the intro. So I don't know why he would say something like that in the response video. One of Nicco Carter's biggest critiques of Charlie was how he never tried to stop this audience from setting hate towards him, which Charlie would later respond to. But anyway, not to actually talk about the things Nick brings up that I think are very important to talk about. First of all, he talks about the people that went from my video to his to just be assholes. I always openly condemn this and I should have again said, don't go harass him because it looks like people need a constant fucking reminder to not fucking harass people. You're not some kind of internet vigilante fighting for justice. That angry comment you left on Nick's video isn't going to help him. You're just being a fucking douchebag.

32:43And that's I completely sincerely apologize for overlooking the fact that I need to remind people how to behave online. I always hate absolutely fucking hate. I've made two different videos on how much I hate when people go and harass people. But just from like YouTube videos and shit, it sucks. It fucking sucks. 100% and Nick is absolutely in the right and calling that out. Following this, Charlie would hint towards the idea that Nick O'Carter may have intentionally misrepresented his original video in order to boost engagement and create an aggressive response. It's clear immediately that Nick misunderstood what I was saying in my video. I don't know if that's on purpose just for the sake of having like an aggressive response video for YouTube drama or if he genuinely didn't understand what I was trying to say, but he makes it clear that he didn't get what I was going for. Charlie would also call Nick O'Carter for creating arguments that he never made. I'm being attacked for my weight, for my appearance, apparently I'm encouraging people to eat unwell.

33:48Excuse me. I don't even understand at all where that last thing came from. I never made any point like that or even hinted at anything like that. I never said like Nakato avocado is a role model and he's encouraging people to eat like he does on camera. I never said anything like that. I never said that he's setting some kind of example for people to follow. All I was saying is the success he found with mukbangs has reinforced his decision to eat this way. Charlie would follow it up by clarifying the reason that he shared old furtors of Nick O'Carter. As far as appearance goes, hit me showing his 2017 body compared to his most recent one was used to show what the food is doing to him. If he was skinny and eating the way he does on camera, I would have the exact same criticisms because even when you're skinny, you can be very unhealthy, which is a point he makes. I wasn't saying skinny is the gold standard. He also brings up some demons from his past that I didn't know about. I didn't get the full extended lore of Nakato avocado. I was under the assumption that he was healthier back then

34:49because contrary to what he says in the video, I am very familiar with him. I've watched his content for a while. I've watched the transformation, but apparently I've missed some arcs along the way in his anime. One of Nick O'Carter's main arguments was that the photo's Charlie Chauz were actually taken during times at Nick O'Carter was facing serious health conditions to his Charlie Wood response saying, He mentioned back during those days with the photos I showed he had an eating disorder, he even mentioned a tooth rotting out and that he generally didn't feel like he was healthy back then. And that's, I didn't know any of those things. What I saw on camera was him eating healthy food, preaching about healthy food options and lifestyles as well as fitness and stuff like that. So I was under the impression that he was healthy during those days, but maybe he wasn't, but he's also not healthy now. I'm not Nick's dad, I'm not here to slap the fucking cheeseburgers out of his hand or anything. I showed these photos because it shows a complete transformation from one body type to another and it shows that there is still an eating disorder present. And I feel like it's reinforced by his audience on YouTube

35:49that encourage it, which is something he mentions in his videos from time to time. He says things like you guys are doing this and I think he's right. I think seeing those numbers grow and seeing those big numbers has completely reinforced the idea that in order to be successfully has to keep eating this way. So he feels trapped to do it. That's the point I was making. Following this, Charlie would make it can't argue with Nico Carter stating how mukbang content is possible to do in a healthy way when pulled off correctly referencing food YouTuber Matt Stoney. It doesn't have to do with his weight or his appearance and has to do with what he's eating on camera and how often he's doing it. Take for example, Matt Stoney. Matt Stoney will do these incredible food challenges. He'll eat fucking 20,000, 30, 40,000 calorie meals in a single sitting in under an hour for a YouTube video and they're fucking awesome. That's nuts to butt action. Matt Stoney eating the fuck out of 20 burritos at a time, double fisting a thousand tacos per hand. It's incredible stuff. And it's so much food and so many calories. But Matt Stoney does that once every few weeks,

36:51once a month maybe. Nakato avocado is doing something comparable almost every single day. Later in the video, Charlie would also combat Nikolak Kato's claims that he was calling him revolting or disgusting. I think some of the most revolting noises I've heard him quite some time while undergoing some kind of exorcism. And shit in me. Who are you? I haven't said anything that you're revolting and you're disgusting. Yeah, I didn't say that about you either, Nick. I was talking about that stick you do in your videos where you make a yucky noise. That's what I was talking about. And I think you know that, but you trying to use that as a way to spin it like I was calling you revolting and disgusting for your weight or something like that, which I absolutely wasn't. I was talking about that ongoing joke you have where you make noises and faces like that. I was just saying I find that to be off putting. He calls them a hair ball, which is obviously him kidding around. And I just called it gross because I don't really like those noises.

37:53And I'm sure he knows what I was talking about here, but just found it to be easy ammunition to make me look really shitty. So he was able to spin it like, look, he's calling me revolting and gross. He's being a big asshole, which I wasn't. I was just talking about that hair ball thing that he does. Charlie would also address his own mistakes in his video, such as when he had the wrong information regarding Nick O'Carrer's full-time carer. He says that I am incorrect about like the nurse, like the full-time nurse to take care of him. And that's entirely possible. I've tried to keep up with his videos recently to make sure I get the full story, but for me it is very hard to sit through a full mukbang from them because it's just sad to see. I'll just be straight up honest. It's hard for me to watch all of them. So sometimes I'll go to Twitter to read threads about Nakato Avocado to be kept up to date. And I recalled reading about a nurse that had to be on standby in order to make sure that he was able to go about his activities. This he has said is incorrect. So I do apologize for that information that I got there was wrong, 100%. And I'll take full responsibility for being incorrect on that point. Charlie's ability to recognize when he is in the wrong

38:55is one of the reasons he became so popular to begin with. However, he wouldn't be happy after Nick O'Carrer tried to twist his own words. One thing he is blatantly wrong about, and I don't know if this is on purpose to make me look bad or something. He keeps saying that I call his viewers fat or I am constantly talking about him being fat and gross. Two things I've never said anywhere in that video. I never said his viewers are fat or insulting his viewers. I was saying his viewers are enabling him to keep doing some of this content. And that I stand by 100%. You can even see it on this response video. There was so many comments saying, don't listen to him and when are you doing your next big mukbang? I love to watch you eat this and that and that. Like that's enabling. That's the very definition of enabling. It's enabling a bad habit. And it keeps you doing these same things which have had a negative effect on your health. But that's not me, all of a sudden saying all your viewers are fat pigs that are grossing yucky, ooh, kudis, yucky, gross pigs in your comments. I never said anything like that. And I don't know why he tries to hit like that.

39:57And I think it's, I don't know if it's on purpose or by accident, I think it's supposed to like make his viewers mad at me. Like, can you believe what this guy sang about us? Which I never did. To conclude the response, Charlie would make one final point about the breathing machine that was present in all of Nickercodder's recent uploads. A machine which Nickercodder made it seem like was necessary to use during the day. Next thing he talks about is this machine that he's had in every thumbnail for like the last two weeks. He says he's actually had this since he was a kid and it's nothing new unrelated to mukbangs and all that. Okay, fair enough. Let's say that's true. Maybe it is, it probably is. I don't see why I'd lie about it. But then why all of a sudden now? Are you putting it so prominently in every thumbnail? And every title talking about being disabled and doing a disabled mukbang. Why are you just now showing this often? It leads your viewers to believe that the situation's a lot more dire than it is and you're doing it on purpose. You're trying to garner more sympathy out of the situation by having this machine here. It makes it seem like your health is on a really rapid decline. And I think the reason you're doing that is to get more views on it because when people see that you're in distress,

40:58they wanna see what's going on and wanna make sure everything's okay. So if you truly have had this machine for that long, why are you all of a sudden now showing it off like this in the context of being disabled? It's so it's pretty fucked up. Charlie's response would garner an overwhelmingly positive reception from the YouTube community. I'm asking over 14 million viewers coupled with over 825,000 likes with comment stating, I like how mature and calm Charlie handles these kind of situations. He just genuinely concerns for Nick. Nico Carter's persona makes me so uncomfortable. Watching a grown man act like an upset toddler is so wrong. As well as a wise man once said, never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. From this point onwards, the drama would take a turn for the worse. With Nico Carter attempting to completely milk the situation, uploading a second response video the following day where he'd react to Charlie's response and repeat the points from his original video. He would even promote his cameo when Charlie critiqued him for not taking the situation seriously.

41:59Never out of character anymore, it seems. So this response is not him being genuine or taking it seriously. Click the link below and get yourself a cameo where I'll make a special video just for you. Treat yourself or surprise someone else. That clip would go on to sit the turn for the video as Nico Carter deflected and dances way around Charlie's arguments with the video making very little points to prove him wrong or to even take him seriously. Following the response, Nico Carter would attempt to clickbait Charlie's channel name, Penguin Zero, in the titles of several videos, such as, eating like Penguin Zero critical for 24 hours. Penguin Zero and Mr. Beast ruined me and Penguin Zero's brainwashed fans won't stop. Oh no, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, shh, the car, jeez, let's go. The content itself wasn't anything out of the usual for Nico Carter and once he became bored of clickbaiting Penguin Zero, he would go back to posting his regular content as usual. Entering 2023, something about Nico Carter began to change.

43:00He was slowly losing his toddler-like behaviour and was actually looking a little skinnier than usual. With viewers taking note of this with comments such as, I'm happy for him. His lost tons of weight and he isn't sounding toxic as usual. It's really nice seeing you happy and getting healthy. I love seeing you make positive choices in the right direction. Keep it up, as well as, I love this video. No antics, just being yourself. Your mood seems great today. On the 25th of April 2023, Nico Carter would publish a video titled, How Much I Way Now Peats a Muck Bang, where he would share some fantastic news with his audience. Hi, I know I'm just going to get off the topic. I lost 89 pounds and I lost. I'm looking at arms, oh my god. You don't even recognize me, I know. And this is not free recorded. It would be this positive news that would bring Charlie to once again create a video covering Nico Carter. But this time in a very positive and heartwarming light. On the 8th of May 2023, Charlie would publish a video titled, This Is Good News. The video would start out with Charlie discussing how Nico Carter was supposedly beginning to lose weight

44:01and not just two or three pounds like he previously joked about, but a respectable 89 pounds. And now I've recently learned that Nico Carter, Avocado, has been actively losing weight. He posted a new video kind of briefly going over how much weight he's lost, which he claims is roughly around 89 pounds. And I think that is incredible. The weight announcement does come during a pizza muck bang, but 89 pounds down and there's a noticeable difference. He's fucking earned the right to splurge like that. I think that is fantastic. The whole genesis of our controversy stems from me finding it sad that he was literally eating himself to death and even making jokes about like very morbid stuff revolving around the way he was eating for content. And I've always maintained that it would be amazing to see him start losing the weight. And now to see him actually start taking steps down that path, I think that's fantastic. And I have nothing but amazing things to say about that and a huge round of applause because there's a lot of hard work that goes into this.

45:03As much as I wanted to end this video on a positive note, things would take a sad twist. On the 28th of October 2023, Nicco Carto would upload a video to his third channel titled, I Quit My Weight Lost Journey, Time To Get Fat Again. And whilst clickbaiting videos isn't uncommon for him, the pins comment would confirm that he had indeed regained all the weight he worked hard losing. It's devastating to see him gain back almost all of his weight with a reply from Nicco Carto himself stating, pinning for the peasants who think this is an old vid. 330 pounds this morning. I don't give a f anymore. Daily videos will return. If you enjoyed this video, subscribe and watch the video on screen. Bye.