How much criticism does Kenny Atkinson deserve?

0:00The groundbreaking ceremony in Brooke Park, Roger Gidell, saying the NFL draft will be coming back to Cleveland in the near future and obviously then followed up on the idea of a Super Bowl. Saying, uh, it's going to have to wait and see the opportunities around it. The quote is, you have the stage. Now we have to build the facilities around it. Okay, then he's worried about the hotels, etc. Yeah, yeah, I did see people online commenting like, uh, you couldn't even do a Morgan Wall in concert. Why does Cleveland think it's like, we've held a lot of really big events. Yeah, if I'm way more than a Morgan Wall in concert, okay? Like we can, we can withstand a Super Bowl, uh, but I, I don't know what else Gidell needs. I do, I would like another crack at the NFL draft, though. Yeah, we didn't get a legit crack. No, and I went and it was, like, they said, they did all they could. I don't want to slam the idea like they did all they could. Yeah, it was a year after COVID. Yeah, and you're just outside of the stadium. And so you're going to be fit so many people in there to begin with anyway.

1:00And like even inside the stadium, they had all sorts of fan events and everything. I just know we could do, we could do way better. I think so. And I do, I, I just would love if we could have more, uh, like, listen, Miami gets a lot of events. Uh, Los Angeles gets a lot of events, Dallas gets a lot of events. It's just been nice if we just centralized certain events that, you know, like we're not going to get a Super Bowl every 10 years. Like a Miami might or like, we're getting in the one. But it'd be nice if you get the one, if you could have like the draft more often in towns like Cleveland, Chicago, Green Bay that do get skipped over for the other, well, Green Bay's a little different because they don't have a dough. We'd also get other things too, right? Like we'd get the big 10 title game or something like that. You know, there's a lot of other things, even just outside of some of the big time events. People think of that wood trickle here. I do want a WrestleMania. I don't know why I don't think I could go. Yeah, like I just, I wait, why are you already not going to the event? Why do you? It's their intense, they're intense. It's a week long. That's a lot of stamina, not make any difference to you then or do you just think we'd get a lot of cool wrestling interviews?

2:04I just think it's cool. Like I think it'd be really cool. One, I know there'd be a lot of people that could go to Cleveland that wouldn't go other years because of the travel or because of the cost of travel on top of it. And two, I just think it's cool. Like I've always like WWE has done a great job with Cleveland. And like there've been some some really like historical events that have happened here. Like Survivor Series two of the first four years, I think we're in Cleveland. And the night that Vince McMahon bought the WCW. Bernie Khoz, they were here at the Wallstein Center. I was, it was a, where were you at the moment for me? That's TNA. That's TNA. It was a, where were you at the moment for me? It's a different company, although we do appreciate Nick Namath on this show. But no, and like, and by the way, I do think even something like the final four, that could be something that could happen like once every six or seven years, except. Yeah, yeah, eight nine, maybe eight nine, I do worry about that. I worry about the idea that people think we're just going to get everything and it's going to be a revolving stream of getting everything.

3:05And I don't know that that's reality or not, but you're at least in the conversations. That's all. And also then you don't have to watch outdoor football at any point. You could to watch it indoors, it'll be nice. Also, Jimmy Haslam called the commissioner a thought partner. No, we didn't on this dome project. Chris Wrinkle, he used a thought partner line of WKYC saying, yes, that doesn't even know that that's Haslam saying we're best friends now. He's not even aware of what that means. He's not even aware of like, that's, that Haslam's biggest compliment in life is if he calls you a thought partner. At least my interpretation. I think we could have retired the thought partner thing and we all would really love it. They clearly really do love it. Whatever, for whatever reason, and they love verticals, verticals, they just love a lot of stuff. Yeah, they do have a lot of stuff. By the way, Lime is saying he's going to rebut me tomorrow on the hardened turnovers. Okay. Oh, gosh, a James Harden Apologist adding context that helps his argument. Color me shocked. It's not apologists. Harden, you guys are hard and apologists. No, we're not. You've said there's no way they can lose this deal.

4:06That is, that is apologism. That's not apologism. He's saying they can't lose this deal is just looking at it. It's a bias. No, it's looking at it practically. If I didn't think you could do anything with Darius Garland, and I think there's a massive upgrade because Darius Garland, and Darius Garland's already admitted he's playing, he was playing with nine toes, not ten, and you wouldn't have gotten anywhere. So like there's the, even if they've lost in this round, you're still, the trade was still worth it. And going for it was still worth it. It's not an Apologist. It's a defense of James Harden is what it is. And it sounds like Apologism to me. John and Parma, welcome to the show. Oh, yeah, guys, season ticket holder also been all the games. I really think like when Mobile was out at the end of the season, he had some time. Harden and Jared Allen was kicking butt out there really good. Now I see just going to games, it looks like, you know, Alan, we all have emotions in your approach. You shouldn't let your emotions get in the way. But they're dependent on Mobile so much like Mobile was supposed to be the next Kevin Durant. People set him out to be what he should be.

5:08He's not all then. He's soft, right? And Jared Allen just looks like, you know, why and I get into touches either? Like I don't think Jared is healthy. I don't know if that's, if I'm being a Apologist for him, I don't think Jared's a hundred percent. Correct. I could agree with him. But you just see it in him, you know, and I like when you put Thomas Brian, and why don't we get some Nikon Tomlin in there? Thomas Brian was awful last night. Yeah, he was not good. He was awful. I mean, I will say, John, that's not something I want more of. I'm talking, scoring wise defense of what he got caught downer. Yeah. Back-to-back possessions, and they just went right after him and it was like, oh, no. He got backed up on that one plane. You're like, you're, you're way bigger. What are you doing? I know. You know what? I'm old. I'm 62 years old. I like when you come down in the middle, you're going to get some of this and that's what we need. That we got to get Thomas Brian to give him some of that and give none of this. I know. I know. John, we got a buggy buddy. We'll talk to him a little too. Thank you, guys. Thank you, John. Tomlin's interesting. I mean, post-deadline, he just completely disappeared. And I mean, I can't say I'm not surprised, by the way, because Jalen Tyson is almost disappeared

6:14at points. Yeah. And then again, it's weird, because Kenny's still trying to figure everything out. That's like, even like, you know, with Tyson last night, I thought he had a pretty nice game and he had a couple big shots. And it's like, all right, does that give him more for game six? It's kind of like, it's basically what Atkinson said about shooter after the game, where the shooter got benched in the second half of game three. And they basically left him for dead in this series. And then he gets an opportunity last night. And then he just kind of showcased why he needed to be on the court more. Yeah. I do not disagree that Kenny's rotations have been all over the place, even going to Thomas Brian's today. That's some sort of work like that he played the hot hand with shooter in that work. What I thought was smart last night, at least, was that in the first quarter, he only went seven deep. And he was like, he was like sticking to that and you could tell. And I really thought he was just going to shrink that up. And then as the game moved on, he just kind of started throwing everyone in there. But I think it's a sign like if we're still having this conversation near the end of the next round, assuming they make it there, then, then, then we have a problem.

7:15But like, I don't think Kenny fully knows his team yet. And I don't know you can really blame him when it was a new team 28 games out. And then you maybe got 10 full games of everybody at health plus together, you know. But the dumb part about it is that the NBA so matchup based that by the time you get to the next round, just because shooter looked good in this game and game five against Toronto. And let's say it's a good game. Six doesn't mean he's going to be the guy to go to in the second round. If it's against the magic, let's say Lance Ryslin coming up in five minutes. We'll see how many wins you think the Browns added. We might we might really fight about to Sean Watson as well. And you fight with him. I fought with him a lot yesterday. I think it's my turn now. I have custody of this fight.