Hour 4: Expectations for Yankees, Mets

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1:00So pitching is an issue. And then on top of that, now with the injury to jazz, three. I mean, Volpy hasn't kind of blossomed into what they expected. Thank God for Paul Goldschmidt. Now, I mean, it, third base, like question. Here's the thing for me. And it drove me crazy last year with the game, because I'm a mess fan. They have to at some point take advantage of having the best player in baseball. This is DPA Troin, Rothenburg. Yeah, maybe by then you'll have some new giants. Maybe we'll get them. It's true. Am I here? Oh, yes, PN New York. And streaming live on YouTube. Oh, you guys are very funny. Yeah, I couldn't hear anything. It went dark for a moment there. That, that, that, that it was weird a little bit, but, but, you know, you're here. That's the important thing. I'm, I'm working out. You know what, the, the great thing about that question from Rick, he goes on this whole diet tribe, like naming every, you know, player. And he's like, here's the thing from me. As a fan, right? That he starts to interject. Yeah, it's so good. He's going to call and he's going to just go on the rampage. You know this, right? He won't call.

2:02He won't call. He listens. He's driving. We'll get vicious nasty texts within the next five minutes, but he won't, he will not call. You know why? I'll tell you why, because he's horrified. This is what it is. He knows how, how awful the, the line of questioning was that he's embarrassed. So his way of changing the narrative is to attack us is what he does, Dan. That's, that's, it's, it's, it's the deflection prop. Right, right? It's, I mean, it's the age old deflection is what he's doing. Defense mechanism, they call it, right? It's, it's, it's like a child would do, right? Don't look at how awful my question is. Right. You're in the barrage him. You know, you're fat. All right. So anyway, Mets, see the nice thing about Rick's elongated question is, it was, it was Mets and Yankees related. I have some sound for Buster only. Guess what? Mets and Yankees related. Here's Buster from the case show yesterday, giving his expectations for the Yankees this season. Hi, they're going to be great. I really do.

3:02I just look, you talked to the other players about Ben Rice and his emergence and, you know, you hear everyone being so excited about Garrett Cole. You see that by the end of the year, the George Lombard Junior is going to be a factor in the shortstop conversation or it could be, you know, an excellent defender and a great presence. Look, I think they'll continue to get better. As the year goes along and they get Rodon back and they get Cole back, and they're going to need it because this division is absolutely stacked. So I think the Yankees will be good. I think we both agree that it's going to be a playoff team. I'm surprised like the first initial reaction to that is I think they're going to be great. Because I, offensively, I have some questions about the Yankees and how it was. I think you have to have some questions about the Yankees. Right, but again, it's kind of, okay, getting to the playoffs, been there, done that. What's next? Well, I guess my question would be as well, team is like, what does great mean?

4:03Like they're going to be great. Are they going to win 94 games? Yeah, I think that's fair. Do you look at this team and say to yourselves, this is realistically a world series caliber team? Because if you can sit there and say that right now, then yes, then I think maybe they could be great. But I don't know that that's fair to say. Well, I think that they're also kind of holding, not holding out hope, but I think that maybe they're keeping open the possibility that they're going to be active in the trade deadline. Well, I don't know before the deadline because of the trade deadline. You know, look, it's one thing haven't got a call. Come back and I get it. He's a huge, huge, huge piece. But you know that there's other things that crop up over a long baseball. Weren't the Yankees last year correctly from wrong? Wasn't in like, in June at some point, didn't they fall below 500? I don't, didn't they? I got it. They were going through a rut. Or it was either that or the year before. I think the year before they might have. Well, they missed the playoffs the year before, right? Yeah, I don't think it was last year. Let me stand by. Yeah, I don't, I don't. Because remember, it was like the sky was falling at some point. I don't think they fell below five.

5:04Yeah, I don't remember dipping below five. No, it wasn't last year. No, they had the big lead on Toronto. Oh, that's what it was. It was that stretch there. They went on an awful stretch and they got beaten up by the Blue Jays and they fell behind Toronto and didn't come back to win the division. But they, there's no way you win 94 games and fell below 500 in June. No, they didn't fall below 500. So, so it had to be the year before, but no, they went through that awful stretch. You know, where they were losing games left and right and not playing fundamentally sound baseball, base running blunders, errors in the field play, which isn't like, like, they got doubled off on a pop up to second. Right. And remember, you had the manager after the games, whenever this would happen, he would not hold the guys accountable. That was the biggest issue. Like, well, jazz, that, you know, that's not jazz or, you know, whatever, or that's him. That's what he is. Well, that's it. Didn't jazz there right after? Yeah. Do it again. Right. That got people incensed. And rightfully so, could you imagine making a monumental mistake looking like a little eager? Like if that happened and little league, you'd be horrified and just saying to the fan base, hey, I would do that again. I guess Great Britain doesn't care because they made him captain of the World Baseball Classic team.

6:04Did you see that? Jazz? He is the captain. He's wearing a seat. It's not for chisel. Jazz on the Great Britain team. Well, he's Jamaican, right? And that's a territory of Great Britain. Oh. Do you know that? I, I knew there was some affiliation, but I didn't know he was playing for great places. Some of these countries that are in the world, but like, like, check, checkier or whatever, check, checkier. Checkier. Checkier is in, like, you know, and they got beat by Australia, like, how are they in the tournament? Why do they have all these teams? That's what, like, who? I know it's simple, but like, who cares? Can we have like the 18, can we do like the four nations, but may, like, send it to like eight? Do, do, do I, do I really need Australia? Do I need Australia? There was a Taipei. Well, Chinese Taipei and whoever they were playing, like, they, they ended the game because a mercy rule. Right. That's your pan. That's your pan. That's your pan. Your pan. Show you a tiny mercy rule. Three for four days, by the way, Otoni. Did you see his grand slam, by the way? He was off balance. He was fooled and still hit at like 400 feet. Imagine sports talk radio and Chinese Taipei after that one. They're probably killing them. Fire the manager. Yeah. Didn't even get to play the eighth and ninth innings.

7:08That's a very high level of we, we have failed when you don't get to complete the baseball game. Right? But that's what I mean. Like, so how can I take your tournament seriously if you have little league rules, basically, with mercy rule? You, you can't. No, it's, you can't, but, but you know, now you're, you're not a world baseball class a guy, right? No. Because you know why at all? At all. No. Look, if it's the United States, you stink. You got to be really? Yeah. You're not interested at all. If you gave, if you asked Japan for the, for the champion, I'll have it on, I'll have it on in the background. But if you're telling me that it's up against an NCA tournament game, I don't care what round it is. I'm watching the NCA tournament game, which I understand, which I would do as well. But you're telling me we get to like, you know, I, I don't know, the DR and, and United States and the semifinals and, and you're not interested. I'll have it on in the back. But again, if it's not up against something else, if it's the only thing on, you like better. Yeah. But are you not at all interested? At this very moment, at this very moment, I could care less when we get to that point.

8:12Like I said, I'll put it on, but I'm not going to sit there and like, be glued to the TV for three hours. I'll be doing all this thing. How into the Olympic hockey were you? I watched all TV USA's games. So, so TV USA, Canada over time, were you like, oh yeah, that's glued. I wanted, I get, well, remember, that was the day that the blizzard was coming. Correct. The game over with, because I, I still need to go out and get breakfast. I put off breakfast until that game was over. I didn't think it was going to go that long. There was glue. There was glue. Absolutely. I'm just, you are. Yeah. You're, you're a football guy. Yeah. You're a bait like major league baseball guy. You're an NBA guy. You're a college basketball guy. You like the NHL, but anything like outside, that's how tennis ball, tiny, you love tennis. And the, and well, the, and well is going on, right? I get it. You got, you see, have you noticed the mixed channel on the direct TV for that? For the, in the wells, got all the courts. I have not seen that. I think 901.

9:12Okay. Yeah. I've not seen that. But you are not like a outside of a, NFL, NBA college basketball, tennis, tennis doesn't qualify. I guess it kind of does. College basketball kind of qualifies. No. No. Yeah. A lot of people don't start paying attention until March. Yeah, but that's not you. No. Like international or countries against countries, you're not interested. Well, here's the thing. Okay. The world baseball classic was something that they came up with. How many years ago? Like, it was, it feels like it was five minutes ago now. No. Yeah. But again, it's something that the majority of my life didn't exist. And if they just came up with it and had some poppy cock reasons, like, okay, great. But who cares? What the reason? Here's a problem with the world baseball classic. Okay. Obviously number one, I'm locked in on the major league season. If they want to play the world baseball classic and these guys are so gung-ho about wanting to do it and represent their country, fine, do it in November. One will see how interrupting the season, Dan, it's not like they said, what if a guy gets hurt June, what if a guy gets hurt? That's interrupting the season. Well, that's awful. It's awful. It's a habit of a guy gets hurt in November.

10:13If he gets hurt in November, the season's over already, but you could have come back around. Okay. But I don't have to worry about that. A team then could change. Okay. For instance, like when Edwin Diaz got hurt a couple of years ago, you get off, you're the get off my lawn. I'm not a get off the long guy. You're a get off the long guy. When Edwin Diaz got hurt. Hey, don't play Ringeliveo in my back. Get off my lawn. Get hurt in March of whatever year that was, the meds could just automatically snap their fingers and then replace them with an elite closer. But if it happens in November, you have a whole freaking off season to make ends meet for the next season. Do you not? So the only reason you don't like the World Baseball Classic is just because it's in March and not November. Well, I mean, that's one of the reasons. But otherwise, it's like, how many of these, how many things do I got to watch and keep up with? Like, again, this is something that the more than half you're a get off my lawn guy. Not more than half my life, it didn't exist. So what? The four nations didn't exist. Did you like that? Yeah, that was four nations. That was four. Like you said, we didn't we just get to insane how many of these like teams are in it that I think that's fair criticism.

11:15I didn't even know they play baseball in Chechi. And now the sun is supposed to be in a tournament with the best play or the best teams in the world. But, but now I agree with you. But I mean, writer or mon myth or wherever goes up against, you know, Duke and Purdue and Michigan. You don't have a problem with that. Do you? In the NCAA tournament. That's the NCAA tournament. That's part of the world. This is the World Baseball Classic. This is its own tournament. Best players playing in it? All the best players? Not all of them. Well, that, that, I mean, to me, that also kind of, let me ask you a question there, Bob. You think that some of the best soccer players in the world are not playing in the world cup this year because the rest of it, I also think the World Cup is much bigger than the World Baseball Cup. A thousand. Right. The World Baseball Classic. I mean, the World Cup is the Olympics are that steeped in tradition. It's been going on for, you know, decades and then the Olympics, how do you start tradition if you don't get it going? Start. Great. But it's still at one point. At one point, do we get there? And you're like, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you years, 40 years, 50 years, the World Cup.

12:16Okay. And me supersedes any sort of soccer league or torn, even the Champions League and that there is in the game of soccer. That is the elite of the elite. The World Baseball Classic is nothing compared to the Major League Baseball season. But I'm not comparing. No, but I'm giving you the examples to how I view these things. The soccer is a, it's a completely different level. The world, the World Baseball Classic, it's a nice thing that I get to watch. You know what you say this? The NCAA tournament was nothing until you got to like the late seven. Nobody cared about the NCAA tournament. The brackets didn't even have 64 teams. When I was a kid, it was like 48 teams and then they expand to 64 and then people go, go, go over it for a couple days. But it's, it, it, how can you just add a history and tradition? You can't. Right. So when, when do you cross the pantheon, we're like, you know, now it has enough history and lineage to now. I'm excited about it. Well, let me cross 40 years. How locked in are you going to be? I'm not going to be locked in, but I'm, I'm interested in, and the deeper we get into this thing, the more locked in, I'll be. I watched the championship game. What was it four years ago when it was Japan and the United States.

13:17It was awesome. And that was awesome. That was great. But you're telling me when you get, when you get these fan bases that are there, that are singing and chanting and every pitch and banging on the drum, like that's, that's great. It's great. It's, it's the greatest thing. Like I said, it's a two pair of underwear experience. I mean, I don't know what else to tell you. I'll watch it. I mean, do I mean to call you when it's on all the time you or, you know what I mean? I see. See, here's the thing. What if a tremendous lack of disrespect to me and the world-based I don't think it's disrespectful at all. And look, here's the beauty of this. You know, there are so many options that we have as sports fans. You can watch whatever makes you happy, whatever you want to watch. You know, there's people that don't give a rat. You know what about the quote unquote sports they should be paying attention to. The ones that we consider the major sports, but I don't take exception with them. And not only are you a big sports fan, you're a sports radio talk show host. So I think that you'd have more than a modicum of interest in the world-based ball classic. What's a modicum of interest? Just a very little bit of interest. The USA plays tonight, right? You're going to watch it? Well, no, I'm not going to be locked in because I'm doing the next tonight.

14:17Okay. That's a job. And on the second screen, it'll be St. John's in Seton Hall. All right. So St. Which I think is fair. And you're a two-screen situation. Two-screen situation. Okay. If I want to pull out a third screen, then I'll have probably the world-based ball classic. That'll be the third choice. And honestly, I believe that's fair. That's all I'm telling you. I'm not going to, like, I'm not going to, like, not put it. I'm not going to watch a cooking show while the world-based ball classic final is on. All right. You're going to prioritize that as third of three. And I think that's fair. You're interested in St. John's Seton Hall. That's a huge game for Seton Hall. Should they be able to win? They need a- They need a resist. That's released. Yeah. And I get that. I just don't want you to poo poo the world-based ball classic. I watched. I watched the final. Like four years ago. Good. Good. RJ, how involved are you in the WBC? I'm involved. I'm going to enjoy watching. I mean, I'm not going to pretend like I'm going to, you know, live and die with it. Like I did the hockey. You dialed in tonight? Who are they playing tonight? Brazil? Brazil. That again, like again, Brazil, I think soccer. Like I didn't know they play baseball Brazil. Well, there's 20 teams.

15:18You can argue that the tournament might be too big. It is too big. It's ridiculously big. So I mean, yeah, Logan, why about in the month? I'll be- I'll have it on. Like if it takes to defend Dan's point and take, Scoobles making one start, and it's in the preliminary round. Yeah. What the hell is that? Because the Tigers, even though he's not going to be a Tiger next year, they're like, dude, we're paying you. So it's every, if you look at the list of Winters, when this has been played, it's a little scatterbrained because it was playing 2023 because of COVID, but it's supposed to be every four years. So obviously this year, it's a little off. There was a weird time when they were doing it every three years. Yeah, there was. It went 2016 and 2019. Yeah. It was rare. Of all the people I know, you've got to be leading the charge for excitement with the winters. 100%. I'm all in. I'm watching Puerto Rico tonight. I'm watching Dominican tonight. I watched Team USA if I got the chance. So I'm all in. If they got in in Kahoot with Major League Baseball, and every, this is just a wild idea. Kahoot is a great word. Every, every four years, they replace the All-Star game and they play this in the middle of the season.

16:19You'd need a lot of time though. I mean, but Arjay, you couldn't do that. You'd have to do like, you'd have to do like the four nations. Hey, you block out two weeks, two weeks. Baseball's not going to punt for. Yeah, baseball won't do it. Yeah, I don't want to. Wouldn't you feel better though, like if they didn't in November after the Major League season? And then guys who still want to play can play and they're not under any obligation. If they suffer an injury, it's not going to cripple. No pun intended that current season, because it's over the hard part about that is you're going to get a lot of pictures that are already at the end of their innings limit or their season ended in September and their teams are going to want them to ramp back up right now. You got to ramp back up to pitch. Yeah, but that, that's, you know, that comes with the terms there's going to be complaints from. There's no perfect. I will say that the ID like it was intriguing to think, hey, get rid of the All-Star. You know, you know, when the world baseball classic would have the biggest appetite and you don't want to think in these terms. If there's a lockout, bingo, Bob, you got it. You know what? Next year, but here's the thing next year is not, not a year that's eligible for it. Maybe you rip it up. But I'm just saying, if the stars never aligned, then I would be like, let's play a freaking

17:22world baseball classic, but to that, no, you're like, you're talking about like school ball and how the tight, I mean, the meds, well, any free agent, any free agent, especially pitcher, be highly dangerous to pitch in that kind of thing. But like, I mean, just to thought, I mean, obviously, like you could make the strong case that Edwin Diaz is injury as innocent as it seemed, ruined the meds season that day. Yeah, but my point is, is it Edwin Diaz not, not walk on the beach. Should Edwin Diaz not walk into a restaurant, walk down, I get it, it was doing nothing. You can just test it as what's wrote a horse since the training. Yeah. Come on. I wasn't lying in like, you know what I mean, you make her, no, but I couldn't find them. It's scared. Right. That was during COVID when he went AWOL, but it scares the, you know, what out of me and a Yankee fan as well, like to see Nolan McLean, like on this, like Mike, God in heaven. I mean, dude, guess what? I don't want any of these guys to get hurt because I love baseball. And I want to see the best possible baseball season for the next six months.

18:25But there's splash and Aaron judge everywhere and all these commercials with Fox Captain America. This that, if I'm a Yankee fan, I would be, but what scared position player while I don't just pitching, I totally get, I'm right there in lockstep with you. Why does Aaron judge or one sort over there and same thing. What if a position player takes one up and in and he breaks his wrist and he's out for months. What happens if it does it in spring training, what happens in spring training and happens in spring training? I mean, he's getting ready for the season with him. All right. He's getting ready for the season now. This isn't getting ready for the season. There was no world baseball class of last year. He's not doing this last year. He's not doing it next year. But he's won every half of a year last year. Okay. But again, it happens in spring training. All right, but this is replacing his spring training right now, but it's not for spring training. The universe is getting at bat. He's not says, Matt. It doesn't say Yankees, but he's get. Okay. So if he was playing a spring training game for the Yankees, he got it. It took one. It went sock broke. But you understand that it's baseball. I tell, tell Wonsoto. He couldn't be able to do this and watch how angry he gets it.

19:28I watch how that torpedoes. I hear what you're saying. I totally hear what you're saying. But if you want to, if they all want to do with that bad, do it in November, do it in November. But it's not in November. But I'm saying you should make it in November. I don't, I don't. How many guys can you name on Brazil, uh, uh, Bishet? We went over this. Yeah. They're really both Bishets on Brazil. Is his mother Brazilian? Uh, there's a history. There's a lineage. There's a lineage. Of course, there's a lineage. Rossi wouldn't be on the team. I don't know. Brazil take anybody. Well, not great at Brazil. Ronaldinho batting second for Brazil. Luis Felipe Ronaldo, batting third. You, you, you, you job. Yeah but one of my favorite things to watch about this is watching Austin Wells and braces Dominican heritage as of Dominican catcher. It's fantastic. It's good. He even know that jazz was the captain of Great Britain. I didn't, church hill, chism, great British leaders. Yeah. down. You're very funny man. Oh my god. Yeah, so yeah, guess what? World Baseball Classic

20:35Brazil screen three tonight. How about that if it makes you happy? And I'll call you tonight too. Good. You know, you never call me. You don't call me either. This is not going to be a one-sided attack threatening with this phone. Call me tonight. I welcome a phone call tonight from you. But I got the next game. You want me to call you like second quarter? First quarter. Okay, when you call me, I'd like, I'd like for our friendship, because I think we do have a friendship. Do you? I would not refute that for a second. I would like to really kind of involve you more in my daily life. Again, it's, it's, it's, it's a two-way interpersonal communication. You can pick up the phone call anytime you want. I owe you a meal. I said I would owe you a meal. Well, I mean, I should have gotten from that day as a comp day. And John being the weasel he is won't give me a comp day. That's something between you and John that you got to take care of. But we have not broken bread in a while. It's been a long time. So that has to happen. And when it happens because of the favor from last week, I will go ahead and just pick up the tab. I'm just telling you it's, it's highly unnecessary. I know it's unnecessary. But I mean, that's just I,

21:35I don't mind it. Okay. Well, it's always awkward whenever you're like, wouldn't it's two people and you're like splitting the tab? I find it. So you know what? I don't, you ever have this. I haven't had this in a long time. Yeah. But years ago, I used to go out with a specific friend of mine and the bill would come and be like, so you, you got a drink. I didn't get a drink. So the total 68, but you should pay a little more because you ate a little or drank a little more. Or like one guy ordered the steak and lobster tails and the other guy ordered, you know, tuna salad. Don't you go out with that we're going to, we're going to split this. Yeah. And you don't, you don't start with like itemizing different things. Yeah, you can't do that. That's not it. It's not a great look. You know, it is a great look though. What's that? RJ? Oh, I mean, the best look you could possibly get at this hour is a looker. RJ. Hi, RJ. Hi. Oh, there you are. How you doing? I'm good. I didn't disappear like when I was the wall or when we lost you briefly. I was gone. Yeah, you were concerning. And he was like flipping out too. He was

22:36like the kid lost it's sears looking for his parents. And I wasn't I wasn't talking to cast away. Well, no, if I was flipping out, I'd been screaming like help. Hello, no, there was like some panic. I'm a level of one to 10. It was like a four, but there was some panic in your voice. Well, I, what confused me is I looked at my comments and it said connected. My, my viewing screen was disconnected. And I couldn't hear you guys. So there was definitely technology. And it's worst right there. No, it's finest. It's worst. RJ. Hi. How you doing? Pretty good. Glad we found you. Well, here I am. I hope you got a lot of world baseball classic stuff in this stuff you missed a ton. No, I don't care for your tone. Thank you, Ray. I don't like the way you like with the world baseball classic. I don't need the world better than the world baseball classic. Nobody said that I'm better than the world baseball class. I think we're in a different conversation. If you open your mind, you could be having as much phone as the Austin Wells is having. He's a whole new world. Go. Hold the world. Go. Hey, RJ. Yeah. Hi.

23:38RJ. Hey, there you are. You're ready? Okay. Let's go. No, walk up three corners. We got it. See you. The you missed. So when Japan took on Taiwan, it was really close when the players took the field and it was zero, zero. And then the game started. Yeah, you can, you can talk to Raymond about Montclair State College basketball. Go ahead, RJ. I show her a talent. He had a grand slam. I don't care for your tone now. He lived on base to Taiwan's 13 and nothing. I just tell you, spring training here, stateside Yankees, which is lots of them not competing in the world baseball classic. They lost 15 to nothing to the twins. And the meds, they just had a standard one of the middle loss 74 to the nationals. Not a lot of regular flame. And either of those games, some of those giants, Steven Singletari took a pay cut. We're here from Jordan, Ron on a couple of days ago that he would be on the outs. Apparently the message reached his agent. They take a pay cut. He will be staying with the Giants list for now. And General Shusky is back with the Giants on a one year

24:42deals. Well, the Rams, their resigning camp curl to a three year 36 million dollar contract in Newhunter and the Texans, one year 40 million dollars. Texans also brought back veteran offense, tackle Trent Brown yesterday. Very real quick, real quick. Okay. And again, Dave, just you're Mr. College guy, Gunnar Olshewski. Oh. Now that's one you don't. That's top. Well, like if you don't know it now, you don't know it. I don't know. I don't know it. And I know this because Andrew Beck don't ask me why then on the jets, we were having this conversation during the season of college is playing Bemigi State. I am in a soda division three. Yeah. Is that Bemigi State? Yeah. Sure. I would. Yeah. I played with that. He's like that. General Shusky went to Bemigi State. I'm like, what? He knew it. He knew it. Yeah. Well, he played with him. He played with him. All right. Yeah. Bears are going to release lineback and remain admins could be a target for the Giants, at least for Dave. And I came Jordan of the Saints. He will be of the Saints no more. He is said to be a

25:44free agent. The all time sack later for the Northern Saints. And so and by the way, on that note with Cam Jordan, already like the yo-yo's on the internet. Well, I could see either the Jets or the Broncos because Peyton used to be with the Saints and coach to Marin Glender, whatever. But duh. Did you see like the shot he threw with the Jets like a week ago? Where do you say? Like something about, you know, I want to be on a team and win. It's like, and if not, you might as well be the Jets or something. How many options is he going to have? Well, then, yeah. And my bottom eyes, they're going to be the Jets. Well, it depends on what kind of paycheck he's looking for. Hockey Rangers, they went home game in regulation for the first time in more than 100 years. Nice. They beat the Leafs 6 too. Himalayan. And the Rangers send Sam Carrick to the Buffalo Sabers. Nice doing business with this. They, they, you got maple syrup. They've turned down by a Colton Paraco. And then the Rangers get Buffalo's third round pick this year. And Chicago's six round pick

26:45in 2026. Sabers also got Logan Stanley. Luke Shen from the Winnipeg Jets. The capitals, they were busy. Traded defense and John Carlson to the ducks. They sent Nick Dowd to the Golden Knights. Blue Jackets get Conor Garland from the Connux. I tell you, Finairan, you remember him? Score first goal for the Kings. We got the first win under their new coach, DJ Smith. They take down the Islanders 5-3. NBA Teller Hero score 25. Miami Heat beat the Nets by 16. So Dan, you mentioned this earlier. So the Nets have lost 10 straight games. Care to guess the number teams in the NBA that have a losing streak of 10 or more games just this season. I'm going to say seven. Oh, that's a nice number. That's a nice number. It's six close. So Sacramento, the Wizards in the end of Chicago and the Mavericks. Also, I've lost 10 or more at some point this year. How is that possible? It's not great. LeBron pass for you. They're not trying to win. I'm trying to lose. That's why there's investigations. Yep.

27:48I LeBron pass Karim. Most field goals made them be a history. Score 16. Lakers lose to the Nuggets by seven. Trey Young made his debut with the Wizards. Score 12. Wizards lose by 10 to the jazz. And this is big in the Rothenburg household. Caleb Wilson still not cleared for North Carolina every day. Yep. As a rematch with number one Duke awaits. Yeah. Tomorrow ESPN 630 every day. Caleb's got to get healthy. You might get a lamp thrones your head. By the way, you're anything is possible. You're two Ranger fans in this conversation. Do you want to trade Trochec? Like, isn't he a guy that could still possibly be part of the solution? He is. Whenever that is. I don't think everyone wants to trade him. He's a valued member in the lot. I mean, you heard, well, cool. Yesterday, like what he means to him, like the what he means to the younger guys in there. Right. Well, he's 32. He's 32. He has some value. This is the team. The team. The team has put the team has put the Nuzha out there. Like,

28:50hey, it's it's retooling time. So you know, you know, the other unfortunate part about it is to like where they're how they're built. Their franchise player is their goalie. Right. We're not in that world in the NHL anymore. Right. Here's the thing. The franchise player has been a goalie for like 20 years. I know, but like those days of like you need that one stud to win a cup. Like most teams now, you can win a championship and they use two guys. It's a two-headed monster. I mean, look, if you have them great, but like that is awesome. You need to be strong down the middle. Well, they're not you know, but the elite teams, Dave's like, you're strong. It's held down the middle. But it's it's wild because again, this is a team that had two runs to the conference final. They won the president's trophy for crying out loud. It's not it was not a bad team. They were good team. Well, they went they went to the Eastern Conference final. They were two two at with a home game. Two presidents trophies in the last four years, right? No, just the one. Only one that they made the two conference final runs. But by the way, yeah, you're like two

29:53years ago, the Yankees didn't make the playoffs. Two years ago, the Yankees made the World Series. I mean, three years ago then when did they have that God awful year? Remember, were they finished horribly and like you thought everybody should have been fired then, but they weren't. I don't think it was all that recent. It was a was. We were still in the old studio. I remember that. It was like three years ago. It's 23. 23. 23. All right. So that's that's that's when the meds had a horrible season with only injuries. And then the Yankees were also horrible. That was a brutal something. They still get to like 80 wins or above 500. I think it was two games over two games over. Right. So they're 82 and 80. Yeah. Quick time out. Some breakfast until you want to know about Kodiak frozen power waffles and flap jacks are built for busy mornings. Heat it, eat it and you're out the door. No long prep, no complicated game plan. They're packed with 12 to 14 grams of protein per serving a good source of fiber and craft you with 100% whole grains, not refined white flour. So you're getting something that actually fuels you and there's depth on the roster. Buttermilk and vanilla, blueberry,

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34:07the grossa is with us. You know what I find curious Raymond RJ is the grossa I have to deal with this with Rick every time he has no understanding of when to go back into the studio. But at least he's here. He comes there now. At least he's in here with us. You know exactly. I got at least 30 seconds away from going back on air. Maybe you should go back to the microphone now. We mentioned we mentioned what he wants. What do you want? That's what I want. He's bringing an a list of non-arabal content. But it's a list. That's great. It's so bad. What did he bring to the table? It's non-arabal content. Awesome. We can't talk about it because it'd be great. I don't understand. Just to take everybody behind me. I don't I definitely grow. I definitely reach that age where I'm too old. Time to change. Time has changed. So like just to make sure all four of us could be in the same conversation during the commercial. I have to physically walk into the control route. Correct. To make that happen. And so like there's not a heroic sum would say. There's not a shot clock in the control room letting us know we're back and break. Hey Dan

35:0930 seconds. Maybe you want to get back over. I mean technically there is a shot clock. But yeah, but you kind of just you know what you know what and you're there. So you know this Dave when he says that it doesn't sound he doesn't make it sound punitive. It's almost rational. You know it's in an optimal count down. I think you need to really like loudly. Counting down. Tell him. Dan 30 seconds. Go physical force. 10 9 just and go get out of here. But if I was like if I was like Rick and I was doing the condo with thing where I was like down the other one in the office that's one thing. I'm in the same room. I need to be I need to be like the bench yelling at OGN and nobody that the clock's running out. Shoot it to the range or something. No, no. All right, Dan. You want some calls. You want some buster only. What do you want? Buster only without a 48 second question leading into buster. You're not going to get any question. You're trying to get you all that buster only. What do you think of the match this season? I think they'll make the playoffs. But I just man there's a wide

36:15variation. I think a possible outcomes for this team. Unlike you know teams that are built with this kind of money. You know, I think Luis Robert is going to have a big year. It is such an important year in his career. He's obviously super talented. He's shown that in the past. I want so you know, I mean, it's hard to believe he's still in his prime, but that's I still entering this prime, but that's where we are. And just having the anchor at the front of the rotation, you and I talked so much last year is they were going through the struggles. They needed the stopper, right? They needed the guy who could be the leader on that. And if Nolan McLean, assuming everything is okay with him, as he moves forward, you could have two guys like that. And that puts them in a better place than last year. I'm very confused by that because it didn't it didn't sound optimistic. He was like, yeah, I think they'll make the playoffs. But I think Lewis Roberts can have a big year. I mean, we know it's going to have a good year.

37:16Lendor, Bishet, he likes the top of the rotation. Am I reading this wrong? Did you do you feel like he was underwhelmed with the match? Yeah, he was lukewarm about the match. Yeah. How is that possible? I don't know, but look, I'm not the biggest Luis Robert guy. I never have been what he likes. He likes Robert. That's great. But here's the problem. It Luis Robert is literally the epitome of the old, the best ability is availability because he's never available. Okay. He's also wear on on your like chart of how important he is on the team. Down. I mean, Luis Robert, to me, is a bonus. How about that? If he's healthy, and he plays tremendous, but I look at this Robert and I say to myself, if he just said Luis Roberts can have a big season. If Luis Robert has a big season, the match are going to be a real problem because you know, Bishet is going to be good. I think I've said this. I'll say it again. Obviously, injuries can wreck everything. BoBishet, top 10 finish NL MVP. Okay. So you know, Soto is going to be good. You know, Lindor is going to be good. I just, if you're going to get production from like the Roberts, the Simians, the babies of the world, and he sits there.

38:20Simian's going to be good too. Okay. And he says McLean and Peralta, like, I'm confused at why he's not more like bullish on, I know, on what the meds are. Well, the back end of the bullpen, there's questions, right? And like, you basically swapped out the Yankees back end and brought them over to Queens. The pro you on, on Devon Williams. A couple of things. Number one, I trust in the familiarity with Stearns or else Stearns wouldn't have done it, thinking that he could literally take over for Edwin. I mean, look, there's rumors out there that Diaz part of the thing reason that sent them to the Dodgers was he was kind of annoyed that they signed Devon Williams. Thinking that takes some of the luster away. He was going to be the closers. That's ridiculous. No, but, but again, as soon as Edwin Diaz, you know how this game is. If he falls, same thing happened at Devon Williams. If you falter, people are going to be called for the other guy who was at one time or another, the best closer in the National League. I think Diaz is locked in as a club. Like, it would take a monumental, like a catastrophic lapse. Okay. But people, we would look, we got 162 games to kill. He slips up as a couple of bad outings. It's going to be,

39:22hey, you know what? Try Devon Williams. I mean, Devon Williams lost his closer role last year with the Yankees, the Luke Weaver. So Devon Williams was also horrendous. I understand that, but he lost his job. And this guy was arguably the best reliever in baseball the year before he came to the Yankees, but neither here nor there. I, the bullpen, okay, little questionable. I, I was not in love with the parole to move, like when they were speculating all off season, but now like the more I've absorbed it, I'm in because I like the fact that he's pitching for a contract. I like the fact that he's readily durable. I mean, hell, he's coming off the best season of his career. And it seems like this is a place that they might even get something done long-term. Like, whenever they talk about it, it's a place that he wants to be. Right. So that's more of the Murray, but at the end of the day, like, like Buster alluded to, I just, I mean, I don't care what a guy's, like, you know, service time has been in baseball. Freakin McLean is going to be the horse in the road. He's, he's the style. He's special. The one thing I will say, like, I, I think the Yankees are going to be very good. And the Yankees are going to win probably 90, 94, like, like, I think the

40:24Metz could be great. I think the Metz could be pretty good. The Philly, I think that there's a larger window of what the Metz could be. The Philly's are the closest thing to the Yankees in the national league with team running back. But they lost some some pieces from the Sanchez for the rotation. But like, by swars, excuse me, by and large, um, they're kind of like the same team. And they lost Castellanos who they just kicked it because the honest is a guy who they soured on him at the end of last year. So that wasn't going to be, you know, they didn't even think he was going to be an everyday player. Um, bad contract. They're, they're always good. They're fine. And, and, and, and you know, who's going to have a big year probably is Bryce Harper, which is, you know, great for Metz fans, because Dombraski, you know, ticked them off when he said, he don't think he's an elite player anymore. And so Harper fired back at him. So Harper's your master in this division. So tough to say because when have they won the division, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, it never had you. Then you don't. No, but I expect the Metz to be a playoff team. Both teams will be in the playoffs. They better, I'll tell you what,

41:28they better, Bob, if the Metz are not a playoff team, what do you do? Well, first of all, the man, you, you have to start talking about David Surn's is not a good GM. Well, this is his team now. This is his team. But they get off to, let me ask you this. What's a bad, bad enough start to where the managers job could be in trouble because he's the next one. All right. So let's talk this through. They fired his whole coaching staff. 23 and 27 through 50 games is a manager in any trouble. No, not yet. If the Metz are 31 and 39, what is the in trouble? Yes. Yes. That puts you when? What time in the calendar? 70 games in? Is that June? Late June? You are, yeah, you know, April, May, June. Yeah. Late June. Yeah. Because that's when they started their turnaround a couple of years ago when they were like the worst team in baseball. Not named the Rockies or Marlins. They think there's, there's, I don't say this in a, hopefully doesn't blow up in my face. There's no way the Metz aren't going to be a playoff team. They were horrendous last year and went down to the final day to not be a playoff team.

42:32A horrendous is a strong word. No, they were, oh my god, with what they had and should have been, they were horrendous last year. But the first 50 games, they were the best team in baseball and then they were brutal. I, I, I, I, I don't think we talked about it enough during the winter. That the Laps missed the playoff. That was a, that was a, and I've said, that was, listen, when you lose a game, right? A team, a good team that lose a game, it happens. When you're supposed to be a good team and over 162 and when it's easy to make the baseball postseason now, you can beat out the Cincinnati Reds. Yeah. It's, it's one, that's one of the biggest collapses in sports history for me, not making the playoffs last year for the Metz. And I became public enemy number one in Cincinnati with the fan base. But you, yeah, what did you do? You didn't see that like the, no, like the red, right? Did you know he was hated in Cincinnati? I did not know this action. What, what did you do? Because I went on, um, oh, yeah, I remember the,

43:34Cincinnati radio. No, no, one of the baseball lesson watch shows, yeah, that I pop up on. And the middle of the season, like in July or something, if I was, you know, threatened, should the Metz be threatened by the Reds? And I said, no, why? And I outlined, you know, like you're, the Metz expect to be there. Since the 90s, a nice little team, but I don't view them as a threat. So when the Reds made it in the Metz did, like the Reds, like took that clip and freaking, the team, the team, yes. And they, they would, and they post, they, they, yeah, made like a parody of it. Like the night they made the playoffs on the final night of the season. You know how, they make those videos and there's like a lead. I said, like, it's in like black and white or it has like a sketchy sound. Like again, Lionel, that's like a badge of honor. He was, he was the lead off. He was like, that was the doubting Thomas. Yeah, that's great. But here's the problem. Like I, I don't care. And that's like a small market mentality. Because again, they backed it, like they, they couldn't see the far through the trees. You weren't very, you backed into the right more than the, the Reds won that spot. Like I didn't even have to address it. You know what I mean? Like I just let it go because

44:36they backed into the playoffs. Remember Dave, game 162 when the Reds were in Milwaukee, they walked off the field in Milwaukee that afternoon out of the playoffs. Yes. And the Metz then had to lose to get them back into the playoffs. And then they went out there and lost to the Dodgers and what two games, three games. So it's like you weren't even in the playoffs. Can I, can I say something? Yes, sir. And this won't be looked at kindly. It's not meant to be kind from the folks of Cincinnati. You're better than Cincinnati. Who you? I mean, that's why I didn't even bat an eye to it. It's like nowadays like, well, the people in this business, they do things for clicks in this and that. I could have easily like fought back with them and jab them. You ignored it. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the VivGuard Hytrulo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Guard Tegamon Alpha and Hyleronadase QVFC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment my way. Visit VivGuardMyway.com. That's v-y-v-g-a-r-t-myway.com and talk to

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47:51right here on ESPN, New York starting at 8.30 and also at nine o'clock. St. John's on the road taking on Seton Hall. That's game time brought to you by Talamore du, the original triple, the steel triple blended. And triple cask matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Talamore du or try the new Talamore du honey during today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Talamore du responsibly. Raymond. Oh, hi there. How you doing? Fantastic. Are you ready? Yes. Raymond, please. Raymond, guess what we're going to get into on the other side? Pardon the please. I want you to guess. And specifically the next. That's right. You're good. You win a prize today. Oh, plays of the week are powered by Zip recruiters. Dave, you've got your tune up, getting ready for Rickle ball madness. Rickle ball. Oh, Rickle ball madness. Oh, hey, March 20th. Rickle ball madness. Just get me. Just get me to this rejoin at nine o'clock

48:52because I think it's going to be a busy. Rickle ball madness. Oh, look at him. I want to be Rick. The excitement is palpable almost as much as the excitement to talk about weather. Am I allowed to give weather updates or is that now verboten? No, this is the kind of weather update I'm looking for. I'm dialed into the weather these days. Yeah, for real reasons, RJ's dialed into the weather. You don't want any weather updates, but you're the same guy that was stuck in Florida for five days. The reason why I find it frustrating is because you pooped the weather. If you weren't such a jerk about the weather, I would open up my, my, I know what would I open up? What do you open? Your weather wasn't open. It right up. Maybe six tiny styles in there. You know, his nickname stems from Raymond. Sonny is not his name. Hey, your face. Yeah, because Dave got a little suntan. And listen, the, the suntan, the sunburn may have had an effect. I don't know if it's actually sun poisoning, but things happened. But by the way, you're listening to DPHRONOR OTHEMERGON to be HSQWCBSFMHD2 in New York and there's a legal ID. Did I do this top of the RID? You did. You're good. I did. How good

49:56you are. You don't even remember it. Honestly, zero recollection of doing it. That's the troubling. It was two minutes ago. Yeah. Hey, just at it. I, I, I'm going to take some time. Yeah. Well, there's one aspect. Here's another we mentioned. I love Raymond. By the way, where, where is RJ? He's right there. Oh, there you are. You're not seeing him. No, I didn't see him. Hey, lost out of our RJ who was clearly on the screen. Can you see RJ in the picture that in front of him? Oh, look, things were said. Accusations levied. Feelings were hurt. I can't promise for an hour and a half that I'm not going to be nasty at any point. Yeah, he didn't even last a half hour. He's all upset. His face is all red now. You wonder why you didn't get a candle? This is why you didn't get a candle. You admit it. Oh, boy. Nasty emails were brought up. I don't know why there was any thought to these, you know, the idea that you wouldn't do them anymore. Email from Clay. He says, you tell that little nugget RJ that these emails better stay. Not that you'll ever read mine. You diaper. I mean, you read it there. Did you hear the Nanna Ginny story, Dan? Nanna Ginny. It's got a little action going on. No, spoke to Nanna Ginny

50:58yesterday. And she got a boyfriend. Yeah. Is that really true? Yeah, she's got a boyfriend. Oh, how old is this boyfriend? I better go fast because he's all season 96. 96. Yes. Listen, it's love at first sight. They met at bingo. So he won. He's screaming bingo across the facility. She took notice and she's like, yeah, listen, now he's in love. Love? I don't know if it's love or not yet. It's I just heard about the boyfriend. Now they're in love. So you got to be careful. Things do happen in those facilities. One day she came home. There was a 93 year old man who passed away. Unfortunately, he passed away on top of his 90 year old girlfriend. Oh, boy. But I've been informed. I can't imagine that Nanna unless she's been playing us all this entire time that she can be that active. Trust me. When it comes to that, people find a way. Not Nanna Ginny. Nanna Ginny in this gentleman, also 96 years old, are not, you know, they're not. Yeah, and there's a reason for this. Apparently, he has his own side piece for that.

52:03The old man has a side piece. That's right. Should I be honest or should I not? Raymond looks tired. I'll try to fix that. I need to get a Botox injection or something. Rick can fix a couple things. He got confused talking about Mendoza's this week. Is Carlos Mendoza? Is Carlos Mendoza? Is Fernando Mendoza? We like to have fun here. I know. We bust on each other all the time and give it up. Speaking of Buston, Jordan Ranan Buston through the door. I played that already, but I mean, it was a long, long hour of Jordan or not. And he was great. Right. That's an obvious move and more money and money, right? But you're going to, if you spend it on regal dattle, then you're just basically trading one. I mean, if they were to sign Linderbaum, what happens with Schmitz? What do you think they do with Schmitz if they sign Linderbaum? I don't know what they'll do with them. Maybe they run a two-centre offense. What do they call that? Two-centre offense could be real useful. RJ, I know that you are in Rick's pocket. But, but please, Kyla Murray is the Pittsburgh quarterback, though. What's a Pittsburgh quarterback these days? A little quarterback on. RJ has no chance of Pittsburgh. We can't do it. We can't go a week without shots at RJ. Did I miss when RJ was like this high-end, big pitching prospect or something? Who invited you to the studio?

53:07So Dan, we do an observations and did happen in Florida and they are brought to you by... Dagestino. Oh, bite back. And we want to try and get a jingle for the other sponsor for Did it Happen in Florida, which is Wild Fork Foods. Wild Fork. Wild Fork. We got meat. Wild Fork. We got meat. Yeah. It's not their slogan, though. I don't think they want that at very affordable prices. Come get us, Arby's. Dave had an encounter with the ass man out of them streets of Manhattan. There's a man in a jet's hat, a jet's sweatshirt, a jet's jacket, and maybe more, but that's a minimum of what I saw. There's the ass man. And I thought to myself, this is, this is, this is, come on. You basically call it the guy a loser. And the closer the loser gets to me, the, I'm like, huh. It almost looks like the ass man. It's all about branding. I maintain that just brand. That's where he's going for. Okay, fine. So, so what are you going for? Losery speaks for the fans, Dave. Man desperate for attention. Where's numerous layers of jets

54:12paraphernalia. This is where you get in trouble. That's what the headline would be. I'll give you something positive, Dave. Emails from female listeners. I want it known that the ass man's girlfriend is far from the only lady out there, completely in love with the gorgeous Dave Rothenberg. There are many of us out here. The new show photos are something we're all anxiously anticipating with new, skinny, gorgeous Dave. I love all of you. I really love Dave. You know I love skinny Dave. Got another email. Martha. I'm plump twice divorce in her 40s. And I can't help but pause the stream on YouTube whenever you're around butterscotch face pose on the screen. That's probably a good place to end it. Those are the plays of the league powered by Zip Recruiter when you're hiring. Never miss out on Gray Candidates with Zip Recruiter. Try Zip Recruiter for free right now at ziprecruiter.com slash ESPN. Oh what a job by Raymond Dan. It's rule 76. No excuses play like a champ, but it's grass or Rothenberg and everybody on ESPN

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