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Hour 3 - NFL Draft Conundrum, All-Time NCAA Starting 5

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Dan Patrick explains why teams should not feel forced to draft a quarterback high if they don't fully believe in the QB. Dan explores what his all-time NCAA starting 5 would be. Plus, is the World Baseball Classic truly bigger than the World Series?

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3:02Lehigh, Miami, Ohio versus SMU. Howard made some money last night. Now you get, I believe, $2.1 million making the tournament and then you get $2.1 million for winning a game or winning that first game. This is what I was told yesterday. That's a lot of money for Howard's athletic department. Texas over NC State, Venezuela over Team USA to win the World Baseball Championship. 877 3DP show email address D.P. at Dan Patrick dot com Twitter handle a D.P. show. This week Sunday night, it's the Timberwolves and the Celtics on NBC and Peacock NBA playoffs are coming to NBC and Peacock. You can watch this show on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app and you can also watch on NBC Sports Network 877 3DP show operator. Titer sitting by you'll take your phone calls. You still have time to sign up for the bracket challenge.

4:05Go to Dan Patrick dot com or on our social media platform, just heard from Darius Rucker. He's in London and he reached out saying, can I be in the bracket challenged? Todd, did you not have the right phone number for Darius? Maybe I didn't. I said something then maybe it didn't get to him, but I'm glad he reached out and said that he wants to participate. Let's go. All right. So Darius is going to be in there among the luminaries who are going to be in this celebrity bracket challenge. You know, we talked about this on Tuesday when Mel Kiper had his mock draft and he had Ty Simpson going to the jets, I think at 16 and then I just saw this article that here's the headline Alabama's quarterback Ty Simpson appears to be tumbling down draft boards. The ringers Todd McShay said that an AFC North team isn't even looking at the quarterback. And instead they're looking at Carson Beck, let's see, what else do we have? Multiple scouts don't view Ty Simpson as a first rounder NFL media's Daniel Jeremiah published

5:10his third mock draft on Tuesday had no team selecting Simpson in the first round. Somebody else said he's seen as more of a third round pick who might get pushed up into the second round because of a week overall class. He's only six one to 11 lacks prototypical size for an NFL quarterback and elite arm talent. I don't see anything else in here. Okay. What changed? Like what, what, what, wait, are you throwing the BS flag? I am, Danny. Okay. Okay. I see it. We need a real BS flag. Okay. There's a time there's a story that comes out weeks before the draft that a player is tumbling down the draft boards. That sounds like an agenda. That sounds like a blank team who's picking 22nd wants him to go down the draft board so they get him and they use media to do so. Okay. But he hasn't played a game in how many months now all of a sudden people are surprised

6:13that he's six one to 11. He's not your prototypical type quarterback size wise. Like nothing changed here. This is where I'm always, this is where teams talk their way into trouble. They talk their way out of a, you know, a good player like you overthink it. But based off what he did during the season, he looks like a pro quarterback and he, I thought he kind of handled the adversity pretty well. And if you're not taking him, are you taking Carson back? And I talked to somebody yesterday to say, hey, if the Steelers take a quarterback, they're going to take Carson back over Ty Simpson and I said, I don't, I don't think I'd take either one. Once again, why do you need to take a quarterback this year? If next year is going to be so great, but it's always next year is always so great. But if you don't take one now, unless that's the guy you really want, it's like, well,

7:15I don't know. Back up quarterback or let's take a chance on, all right, Carson back, Ty Simpson, but this is what teams do, like, and is there a smear campaign going on that all of a sudden everybody put out their mock draft, everybody had the same opinion on Tyson, I don't know. It could be some shady nefarious stuff going on here, Tarnishing Ty Simpson, how dare you? Yes, Pauline. And if you look around, you can find a story 24 hours ago, the jets are high on Ty Simpson at the 16th pick. Yeah. But that doesn't mean, you know, it doesn't mean the other people aren't wrong just because of the jets. You know what? In fact, it might strengthen the argument with all the other, you know, teams are letting him tumble. The jets are like, he's our guy. Yes, Todd. And our analysts, I guess they are analysts, insiders so quick to either be first or try to

8:19get a story out and get some quotes, even if they know deep down, it might be BS, like Paulie was saying, and they're being used in some fashion. Why they in such a rush to be used as a journalist that throw stuff out there that could be blatantly false. Well, I don't know. I don't know if they're being used. I'm just saying the coincidence of this, but then you had Mel Kuiper saying that the jets, he had them taking Ty Simpson number 16. But the fact that this week, you've got three different publications or people who are putting their name to Ty Simpson is tumbling down the draft boards. I don't know. Because this is what happens. There's going to be the love for Ty Simpson, which maybe we've had. And yeah, the negative Ty Simpson stories. And then maybe he stages a comeback, even though he's not playing in a game, but now all of a sudden it's like, you know, that Ty Simpson, the comeback story, you know. But maybe he is a third round pick. Maybe you'll be in the second round because somebody will get desperate for a quarterback.

9:23That's the problem I have. It's the only position where you get desperate. And that's the position you shouldn't be desperate in trying to get somebody. But teams do it every single year, but that just came down, came out, so I was a little bit surprised. I had seen Polk question for the final hour of the program is going to be what? Yeah, let me update you here from the first two. We had a couple of World Baseball Classic Polk questions. The World Baseball Classic should stay in the preseason or go to the All-Star break. That's at about 55% right now, have it staying in the preseason. People are pretty curious about moving it over to the All-Star break though. Okay. That's kind of fun. Yeah. And then we also have the World Baseball Classic should be played every four years, three years, two years, four years, edging them out. My source says Howard University got 2.1 for making the tournament another 2.1 for winning last night. That's a lot of money for the athletic department there.

10:28Yeah, Paulie. I saw this story too about the payments they're spread out over years at 355 per year. Yeah. In fact, my source says, let's see, the next six years, Howard's win, they get 4.2 million total over the next six years. So that and the Miyak, the conference that they're in. So it's spread out over that, yes, Todd. You don't have the option to take it in one lump sum. I don't think it's like winning the lottery. Yes, Paul. And the Miyak is not the Mac with two A's, right? This is MEAC, the Mac. We've been discussing the retiring of numbers because Matt Liner at USC is asking a couple of times to have him unretire his jersey number, number 11. And Matt says, no, JB and San Antonio, hi, JB, what's on your mind today?

11:36Good morning, Dan. Good morning, Dan. I'm sorry about that. 63230. So Dan, I'm about your age. So I'm getting ready to age myself. When I watch your show, I'm watching cheers. By that, I mean, you would be Sam, the alcoholic who now owns a bar. That would be re-covering, re-covering, not calling. Okay. Recovering. Now, you have to think, re-imagined like the new shows, Ollie is Frazier. The same way, coach was all things baseball, Marvin is all things sports, Marvin is coach. Everybody loves when Norm walks in the bar. There's nothing funnier when Seaton laughs at, when Seaton laughs at Fritzie, nothing funnier. And then who's fritzie? Seaton would be fritzie, everybody loves to hate.

12:41I love Fritzie because he brings that into the show that nobody else can and you hate him. For instance, the path hole, we killed him, Fritzie is Cliff Clayton. Okay. All right. So we're kind of cheers. Everybody knows who's shelly long. I mean, Dylan, Dylan is, I mean, I wear a dress, so yeah, yeah, Seaton. I think being compared to Norm from Cheers is one of the greatest compliments I've ever got in my entire life. And to be fair, Sam alone was, he didn't drink when he owned Cheers. Hair piece though. What are your thoughts on that? Whoa. I don't have a hair piece. No, I don't. Just compared to a guy who has a hair piece. I thought it was a pretty good hair piece back then. It was, it was Sam alone. Like I didn't know too many people who had a hair piece. And if they did, it was usually, you know, some old guy who couldn't decide which way to put

13:43it on in the morning and everybody knew that it was like Howard Cosell, you knew it was a hair piece. Yeah, I'm pulling. So Ted Danson had a hair piece when he was young on Cheers? I believe so. Oh, I thought he got it years, years later. No, I think I think. I'm pretty sure they had an episode about it in Cheers where his like hair piece got popped off and there was like a, yeah, I did go to the bar Cheers in Boston, yeah, yeah. I did the tour. I did the tourist thing. Yeah, definitely. 100%. There's the sign. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Thank you, JB. Let's see. David in Connecticut. Hi, David. What's on your mind? Dan, that's good morning. Thank you for taking my call. New listener. First time caller. Six, two, two, 35, 32.5 inch arm length. Calling in support and to honor my friend, Peter Gogalak, a long time patient and friend.

14:45If you guys know anything about how these guys got into getting big money, you'll know that Pete was the one who jumped from the bills to the giants, which started, I don't know what the term is, I'll call it, he undermined the no poaching law, which then erupted into these multi, multi, multi, million dollar contracts that we're seeing today. Well, you had contracts with the AFL and the NFL as well that created large contracts. But thank you, David. I think Gogalak's number was three. Does that sound right? But the AFL and the NFL, because there was a bidding war with Joe Namath, you know, he had players that were going, you know, they could decide between the AFL and NFL. One other item that I want to bring to your attention, I found out yesterday that our partnership with Trigger is coming to an end and, you know, 10 years.

15:45And so look, this is business, but they were an integral part of their show for 10 years. And I hope to maintain friendship with people there at Trigger. But you know, they're going into different direction. They're trying to kind of reset what they're doing. We wanted to be fair to them that if that's what they wanted to do, then, you know, fine. So, you know, we had been talking with Trigger for a little while. And that's why we, you know, didn't show, you know, us outside by the Triggers because we didn't know if they were going to stay. We had hoped that they would stay for the final two years of the show, but it was a great run. And I'm very proud of the sponsors that we have and that we keep for years and years and years and years. And Trigger was, you know, right there at the front, we had great relationship, had a lot of fun. And I go back to the meat Friday songs that we had.

16:49And so it's, it was a sad day yesterday when I found out, but I wanted to bring that to your attention. So the partnership with Trigger, we're still going to do meat Friday. I don't know if we have to get Bill to fire pit out there and we'll just, I've Dylan out there cooking the way we used to in the caveman. We go, yeah, back caveman style. Let's open flame it. I'm okay with that. We're still doing meat Friday. We created meat Friday and that will continue, but the partnership with Trigger will come to an end. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I heart radio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat

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22:54So they significant upgrade for the WNBA. All right, some more phone calls here. We kind of threw this out if you were, yeah, maybe it was an audience member who said, Hey, how about who's your old time starting five? And I thought I'd need time to think about it. But if I was, if it didn't matter what position that I was going to put somebody yet, that I could have, uh, Lew Alcindor and Bill Walton on my front line. And then I could have now this is just college. We're just basing this off college. Um, like that could put Larry bird in there. I could put magic in there. I mean, Mike, Michael Jordan wasn't a great college player. He wasn't even the best player on his own team. James Worthy was, I think the national player of the year, but it, you know, we all know what he became. So it's not, you got to just look at the college career. That's it. I mean, Nick Wright brought up Tyler Hansbroe. And before you go, Tyler Hansbroe, for a long time, he was the old time leading

23:58score in the ACC, but a lot of these players, if you think about nowadays, it's only playing one year. You know, Tim Duncan played four grand hill, Patrick Ewing, Latener, Walton. They all played. They stayed. It's different because you get to see a full college career. Now it's just one year. Like you can take Carmelo, if you want to, for one year, but I mean, magic played for a couple of years. He had two years at Michigan State. Yeah, Polly. Tyler Hansbroe was the Frank Gore of college basketball. He was good for a long, long time. No offense. Is he still the old time leading score in ACC history? Yeah. Armando Baycott played about 11 years. I don't, I don't, I think he caught him rebound wise. Okay. But a good pull by me. Tyler Hansbroe was a, you know, he was a 2010 guy for six years. Polly, yourself on the back there, let me call by me. But if you think about it, you've got to be just good enough to put up these

25:01big numbers, but not that good where you leave after one or two years. I get some tricky formula where you go, man, he's the, he's going to be the all time leading score. That's because he's been there five years. Oh, let me see Bob and Ohio. Hi, Bob. What's on your mind today? Yeah, the bone brother. Hey, how about this one? I'm going to throw this at you and you're going to say you are 100% right. And the other guys are going to have no white data. Roosevelt Chapman had the greatest full game run as a UD. That was probably about your time, right? We've got same age. Velvet is a little younger than me. Okay. So he had a run of 30. Then again, it's the way him and his daily at 41 and 60. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he comes back and I think I might have get better against that.

26:02Let's shrimp. He had another 28 or 29. So you talk about the greatest players. You know, Larry Bird to me was the all time great college player. But guys like that made this special. Yeah, velvet was only six four. But and he wasn't a great shooter. But he would go up against seven footers. I remember that Dayton played Minnesota. Randy Brewer was seven three. And I think velvet dunked on him in traffic. And you know, Roosevelt wasn't a great pro because he was a six four guy who played inside. But that run with Dayton, uh, that's pretty incredible. They, uh, they went toe to toe. But velvet's not better than Donnie May. Donnie, Donnie May led the nation in rebounding at six five. Um, he was a, he was a great shooter.

27:05Like to the nicks, uh, but velvet had a great run. I mean, Dayton, you see, like it feels like every seven to ten years, they'll be like, oh, there's Jim Paxon. You know, there's, uh, Donald Smith. There is Donnie May, velvet Chapman. Yes, Mark. COVID stopped dating from a possible national champion. That's true. Only top of the best player in college basketball. Yeah, Dayton might have won the national title that year. That's, uh, good point there. And let me see. Ben in North Carolina. Hi, Ben. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Turn down your radio. If, if you, if you're talking about the five greatest basketball players in college, you have to bring up David Thompson. He was great. Yeah. Yeah. Look, there's no wrong answer here. I just, it's your opinion. If you want David Thompson in there, put him in there. If Nick Wright wants Jerry McNamara in there, go ahead. Yes, Mark.

28:05In my top five, is it okay that I have two one and done guys? It's your five. We don't know if you got one and none. Because they play college basketball. Well, then tell me who your five is. Our point guard point guard J Williams Duke shooting guard Ray Allen. All right. Carmelo Anthony Chris Webber, Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis dominated without scoring. I wouldn't take pride then. I went scoreless in the national title game, Marvin. He was dominating without scoring. He didn't have to. Yeah, he did. He was supposed to score. But he didn't have to though. Because Kentucky was great. All thanks to Anthony Davis. Calapari had how many McDonald's all Americans? And he's got a national title because of who? Well, who else was on the team with Anthony Davis? You make it seem like he was Patrick.

29:05You win. He had Michael Kid Gilchrist. Okay. Who was what? The third pick overall? Second. Okay. Second pick. My show. Debugged. I'm not up on my Michael Kid Gilchrist. Oh. Kid. Darius Miller. Yeah, you're asking who that is. Yeah, me too. All right. Okay, that was it. Yeah. All right. That's your starting five. It is. Okay. That's fine. But you were giving me a little. Yeah. You're giving me that. Yeah. Yeah. You're young. You don't know that much. Well. We're just going off. We're just going off of who I saw play. I know. I know. But I had said that Darius Miller played about 10 years in league. It's something. He did. Just saying, this is a great accomplishment. Yes. All right. Yes. You really disrespect Anthony Davis's college career like they. He had more blocks than some teams. Who is the first guy? Well, you weren't maybe around who came in and said Anthony Davis is going to be great

30:10in the NBA because he started out as a guard, grew into a seven footer and had a great handle and he had great touch. I was a fan of Anthony Davis. It doesn't sound like you. I was. Was he actually great in the NBA? He's a whole famer. Jersey retired. Does he get a, where's his nickname again? Street close. Man, that's a tough one if you want to talk about greatness. He did have a run there. He did. Where, where, where, where does he get his Jersey retired? I honor his college career, but his NBA career. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. He'll get a sweater retired in the clothing store. Yeah. No fat. Some comfy clothes. Yeah. Man, good pull by you, Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you didn't see Patrick Casino or Kame, and correct, I did not see those guys yet.

31:13All right, well, that's why you get to do yours then and Marvin gets to do hair. I know. I said, there's no wrong answers. But Marvin proved Burns. Debugged Marvin proved me wrong. J-Will. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Uh, wait a minute, let me see if I get it. Let's see the second overall pick by the bowl. Hey. Okay, just when I'm sure I got that one. Okay. Yeah, like Jay Williams was just some guy. No, Jay was really good. He was really good. But in your history, he was really good. Correct, yes. Yeah, that's fun. I could even see Len bias. I did not know. I'm just saying, there's a lot of guys who've been really, really good and not for just one year. Correct. My all time, all time list would be much different than the guys that I saw. That's all I'm going off of. Okay. But we shouldn't be yelling in each other for yelling per se. I might have yelled.

32:14This might have been good sports radio conversation. Yeah. Yeah. That's a nice call back. How would you rate your show so far, Marvin? How would you rate the Anthony Davis thing I'm good with. Yeah, Jay Williams. I'm good with. Oh, letting that F bomb go. I'm not good. We're listening to Matt Liner and all of a sudden, boom, an F bomb. That was unfortunate. And if my stare, if my stare could have killed, we would have last rights for Marvin. Correct, yes. I felt terrible. What I just said about my top five, not even close to feeling bad about that. This right here, yes. I've been there, my friend. Not a good stare. Not a good moment. It's not a good moment. It's the worst because the only thing I take serious is like trying to do a good job on the board, at least. And I let one slip pass me.

33:15Thank you for taking it seriously. You didn't book Daniel Jones though, after Victory of the Cowboys and Monday Night Football, so you're not so bad. Wow. We all have our sensitive, but we all have our memories of bedtime. Why are you trying to have Marvin on in case he was feeling bad that we've all been there, we've all got called into the back room. We've all had the despair, it's just not a good time. Why are you bringing it back to you? I'm trying to share in what Marvin went through in that moment that it happened to other people. It's not about bringing it to me. We can share and then we've all screwed up at a time. And when you get angry like that, it's upsetting. It's jarring. It's jarring. It's a jarring look that you gave me at it could last hours or days or maybe weeks. Yes, Paul. Fritzie found a way to make Marvin's bad day about him. Pretty talented thing to be with you. You are, you are misdirection. You can misdress. You have the no look past. You did it before anybody. Nothing about Marvin. What about Marvin? Yeah. It's like anxiety screwed up. Yeah.

34:15Congratulations. What grade would you give Marvin today? I'm going to say he had a lot of good basketball knowledge or something. I'm going to go be minus slash C plus. Paul. Nothing too horrible. Objectively, Marvin gets a hard effort for today. Whoa. That's the problem. An F-bomb. Yes. No pun. Because the rest of it, you got to eat this one and move on. Any news? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I gave you just a little talking to. Yes. Yeah. Just a little. Did anybody else give you a talking to? A talking to? No. Advice? Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. For sure. All right. Never. I. Okay. During commercial break, I walk out the door and Marvin keeps his headphones on. I was just like, and I go, Marvin, hey, hey, I'm really sorry about that.

35:16Okay. Okay. I said, we don't make those mistakes. And that was it. We move on. It's a teaching moment, it's like you can't say that it's not the less than I wanted to learn. Yes. It's a teaching. What taught? Well, what is really the extent to the advice? Well, you could say, as you got to listen to those before it goes on the air, or you've got a bleep out cursors. Let's not make it sound like it's, you know, there's a list of 73 things you did wrong here. Really, very simple advice. Famous beginner and broadcaster. You don't need some kind of 50-year veteran to say, here's where you're messed up. He knew immediately when that word came out, what he did wrong. Yes, Mark. I think the worst part about it is I bleeped out 18,000 F words from Max Cross to me. I worked hard on bleeping out all those F-bombs and S-bombs from Max and Matt Liner. You know what? You ran out of bleeps. Yeah. I know bleeps to give. Making content out of it. You know what? We make a mistake.

36:17We move on. I mean, we laugh about it. Can we move on? I am. Okay. Yeah. It was just, you know, it's content. But does Todd want to move on? No, he does not. Thank you. See it. Someone asked. I have a trouble moving on. I gave Marvin an F for today's show because F is for Fritz and that's what really matters. There you go. Now back to Patrick. Already in progress. Oh, Todd. Tony in California. Good morning. Tony, what's on your mind today? Hey, guys. Good morning. So yesterday, Dan, you're talking about LeBron. Deferring. And I think it's so admirable of him at this stage of his career, but it got me thinking not about the go, but who is a better leader? Michael Jordan or LeBron? Jordan's a bowling and a punch in the face. But then you'll be Steve Kerr or LeBron, Dragon, you know, Booby Gibson and J.R. Smith, the championships, Love and Encouragement, Powerful Tool. I'm not sure what the right answer is.

37:17Oh, I don't know about the leadership. Leadership is when you go out and do something. That's the way I always viewed it. It's not somebody who's going to give you words of wisdom because you just go out there and you play. And you lead, by example, I always felt that. I'm not going to ask you to do something that I'm not going to do. Follow me. Watch what I do. Leadership, chemistry, those are always tricky words. We use them a lot, but, you know, Mike was a leader just because you had, you had to keep up with him. He demanded perfection. He wasn't a great teammate. I don't think he was kind, nice, friendly to a lot of his. I mean, he's not a huggable, cuddly guy. And I don't know LeBron. I mean, I knew players who played with the Bulls.

38:17You know, who said, boy, LeBron's a great leader. Great leaders when you come out and score 25 consecutive points in a playoff game. You lead the league and scoring. You play for 22 years. That is the kind of leader, but they'd led in different ways. I mean, if LeBron did what Michael did, like, just do the Steve Kerr punching in the face. How would social media deal with LeBron? Mike did it and like, yeah, man, that's what you want, man. He's going to fight you. He punched Steve Kerr in the face. Yes, Martin. First take would have been on. It would have been a four hour show. It would have been a marathon. They would have done a telethon on LeBron punching a teammate. Oh, my God. I have a friend who just said, fritzy is the guy who would figure out a way to make a no-look pass to himself.

39:17Well said. Yeah, but as far as leaders go, I don't know if Larry Bird was a great leader. Other than Larry Bird went on to the floor and you go, I'm going to follow him. I can get faith in that guy, confident. Cal Rip can play every single game. That's pretty good leadership. He's out there every single day. Yes, Martin. Right. Like, Derek Jeter was the captain, but could you imagine him giving you a raw, raw speech? No. He's going to go out there and do it. No. He did have a funny line last night where... Who? Jeter. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was like somebody was saying, man, the WBC, it's kind of like the World Series. And then I think Jeter said, those who are saying that never played in a World Series. And he's right. I mean, the WBC is not the World Series. It's not. It's a big moment for Venezuela and we should never take anything away. Whatever it means to them, they can embrace it.

40:18But I think if you're watching the World Series, knowing the World Series, what it means, it's not something that is played in spring training. It's the culmination and obviously what Jeter... He made his name playing in postseason games, World Series games. Alrighty. Let's take a break. Todd, anything else you would like to say? I just want you to ask me first before you're going to go to break. Yeah, this is a good time to take a break. Thank you, Todd. Thank you. We want to have a room for the last segment of the show. Oh, we got scoreboard coming up. We do. Yeah. All the more reason to make sure I have adequate time to do that. Yeah. And this day in sports history, which is always very similar to scoreboard. We'll find out. But Paul, I blame you. You did tell Todd to do scoreboard. Accurate. When scoreboard was about number. You. Yeah. Oh, Todd's got a numerology one. I know. And it has to do with the Broncos winning the Super Bowl. All right. I'll let you do that when we come back. Okay. Fine.

41:18Show some enthusiasm. What do you mean? Fine. I'm still upset that you're giving Marvin too much grief. I did. I'm sensitive about that stuff. I don't like that. It's a real fact. We're just taking a harder than I am. I know. I think everyone should just always get packed in the back and be told how wonderful they are. And if you've got nothing negative to say, keep it to yourself. Man, I wish I had a pie to smash you in the face. Even as the boss. If you've got something negative to say, just keep it under your hat. This is a monster you've created, Dan. I know this, right? You did this. I did. Congratulations. I thought we'd take a break. Okay. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the IHART radio app, search FSR to listen live. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now.

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46:30Later today, get you ready for March Madness. We're going to have Dylan, we'll have Shay and Irving, Bad Larry, and it will be available this afternoon at dampatrick.com. The podcast, new episode tomorrow with Todd, I believe. Yeah, hopefully every week until you pull the plug out and say, you know what? I didn't appreciate what you said in episode five, you're done. I got to be honest, I do listen to the 1215 podcast, the wrap up with the backroom guys every Friday. I have not listened to that fear support. And so language police might be out in full force here. Yeah, right there. I have a numerology Bronco model. We only have about five minutes left. Okay, Todd, give me, this is yesterday. He sends me numerology with the Jalen Waddle trade to the Bronco. And my wife sent it to me and I sent it to you and it's kind of cool. Jalen Waddle wears number 17. He was traded to the Broncos on the 17th day of the third month.

47:31He has guaranteed $17 million this year on his three year contract. 17 times three equals 51. Bo Nyx wears number 10, 51 plus 10 equals 61. Superbowl 61 champion. Question mark. That's a long way to go. Even for me, that's a, you know, that's a stretch, but I like where this person's going. I gave you credit because there was, you know, you went deep and there was a payoff. But I didn't create this. I saw this on social media. I don't want to take credit for these numbers. Okay. I mean, I didn't make that clear enough. Wait, wait, wait. Jen saw this on social media in my life. You sent it to me. You didn't say I saw this on social media. I didn't come up. Oh, I thought I said Jen sent it to me. I should have been more clear. My wife sent this to me because she saw this on social media. So I don't even know where this came from. But I thought it would be fun to share it. And I don't want to take credit for it because I don't think it's that great anyway. If I would have come up with it, I would have said it was genius. I thought it was, I thought it was good. It was fun. Yeah.

48:31I don't like when my team gets to jinxed even with numerology. Oh, the Broncos should be favorite to win the Super Bowl of Jaywin Waddle. I don't like when they talk like that. Brackets are due tomorrow at 11 a.m. Eastern. Is that sound okay? 11 a.m. Eastern? Historically, it's been 11. Okay. 11. Yeah. Yes. The director, I think, wants to closer to 10 a.m. Eastern. He's kind of cracking the whip a little bit because it takes extra time to put things into the machine, the computers and tabulations. And so ideally 10 a.m. Eastern. So Mario is the director. Yes. Titian, I had pre-show with him. He would prefer to make things a lot easier for a lot of people to make it a 10 a.m. Eastern conclusion to getting in your picks. Okay. Right. So we'll have ours in at 10 a.m. tomorrow. That would be nice. Is that fine? Okay. Chase McGrady will join us on the program tomorrow. How about this day in sports history, Paul? 1892. Frederick Arthur Lorde Stanley of Preston announced that he had purchased a trophy to be presented

49:32to the hockey champion of Canada. That is the Stanley Cup. And in 1970, NFL selected Wilson to be the football and scoreboard official timekeeper. Okay. That's it. 1985, I was covering this. Baseball reinstated Willie Mays in Mickey Mantle. They had been barred from baseball by Buie Cune for their association with Atlantic City, Casino. They were just greeters at the door. In fact, I went to Atlantic City and we watched Willie Mays Crete people. Not an exciting video, but we did see what time. I was waiting every time someone walked in and said, hey, hey, hey, that's all right. Really did. We got it. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind? Wait, we just heard from Philip Rivers to be in the bracket challenge. I never even responded. I think a third of the people that didn't respond all of a sudden a sheet appears on my email.

50:32And then Alex Alex O'Vetchkin is back in again. That was like 20 minutes ago. All of a sudden I got a note from the capitals. Here's OV's gene. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. So you can be in the bracket challenge with Alex O'Vetchkin and Philip Rivers. Let's see. That needs to be mentioned here. Final results of the poll question, Satan. Where should the world baseball classic run preseason or in the All Star break? Preseason is barely beating All Star break. Just a couple of percentage points. All right. That's pretty good though. Guy Fieri just sent in a bracket. This is going to be fun. Diners, drive-ins and dives. Yeah, we're not junior. Okay. Washington fan. All right. So let everybody know they got to have their brackets in by tomorrow and one poll. We could dive in this tomorrow. But there's some other people that said no. Fritzie's list of people he asked is diverse. Christina Applegate, the actress said no. And no, she's on our list. I got a little loose. Jennifer Lawrence said no.

51:32Morrison and Tomé has not said anything yet. Oh, she doesn't need to. Let's get her in the bracket. Gianna D. Laurentius has not answered. What? I know. For the 20th year in a row, Adriana Lima has said no. What the heck? I don't know what we're supposed to do. Meal, latinus, no answer yet. That hurts in particular. What about her husband? I didn't fight him. I wanted the dead moms. Oh, you got. On her Hellebuk though, the goalie on the Olympic hockey team and the one, the goal metal he is expected to send in a sheet at some point today. But you know what? You know, who said no Rachel McAdams? That's a bunch of crap. I thought for sure she was there. I just saw wedding crutches like last week. I know, but why do you do this? It's, I don't know, it's silly, because I don't know. Because I don't know, it's some kind of secret crush fantasy that like I just to be able to that's a close-down ever get to any of these people that they sent in a Bracket. What did you learn today, Todd? You think the Ravens got cold feet and that's why they pulled out of the Max Cosby deal buyers remote seat. And what did you learn? I learned we have to change Marvin's t-shirt from the hands to two middle fingers

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