Hour 3: Darren Mougey speaks

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1:02He's a righty. It happens. At least you found the button, right? Some of us on the show don't even know where that button is. That is true. Yep. That guy. That guy. How are pointing tonight? That guy. That guy. You stay out of my box. Oh boy. This one. I swear to God. If you defend him with his... This is not my question. I'll have my question in a moment, but let me ask you this quickly. RJ, if you defend him for that, then you're going to hell. Wow! Yeah. Which one now? RJ, can you guys... RJ, I know this is new technology at all. Can you make it so my finger, like as I'm putting my finger through into his box, it pops out on the other side? No. You gotta superimpose it. No, we can't do that. I agree with that, dude. You said that in my box. It's stuffed inside of our... I'll spritz water in your box. That in your box. You can use that in your box. You stay out. I just threw a water bottle right in your box.

2:06I wish you told me that. I would have had one ready to catch it on the other side. Oh boy. I've got another one to get through, so... We can have all sorts of fun... We can do a fun game in these boxes. This is like the Brady Bunch. Yeah, it really is. Really is alright, so we're gonna get to that some of the concerning issues I think I give Carol shot So she's not with us anymore I'm mean to the past thought that okay Figuratively speaking sorry Carol Well, let's transition off of that So thai Simpson huh A lot of varying opinions out there. What are we doing? You caught my trash CMT right yeah great. I need to stop throwing that Poland spring bottles like you're a nom Into the into the couch that you took off the street during garbage day and take it off the street. This is our old couch sure You believe people are throwing this away. No So a lot of opinions out there on thai Simpson just in the last week We've heard Dan Lovsky that soundproofing is beautiful. It is

3:10Dan Lovsky declared his best quarterback in draft Mel Kuiper had to go number 16 to the jets and I just yesterday Matt Miller said he's a definitively a second rounder And he cannot find a team that he believes would actually take Simpson around one So what I want you to do is Tell me not what you think but where will thai Simpson end up being drafted so this is not our opinion of of what he will be This is our opinion where he will go. That's right. Okay. We'll be 15th or sooner Will it be Smack dab 16 or will it be 17th or later? All right, so this is a good so well crafted question. It is well crafted. It is well-crafted I'm gonna marry 17 or later I just think at the end of the day there's gonna be too many doubters with thai Simpson And I don't think he goes jets or prior to that So I'm going to marry 17 or later

4:18I'm going to cuddle 15th or sooner. I Don't think the jets are going to take him so I'll trash the jets at six. Oh Gets a lot of work on them. They did. Yeah, but they should I mean it would be it would be a bad job if you didn't do a lot of work on it Especially because you have the 33rd pick and you could also get back up into the first run if you wanted to I need to know I believe you'd feel a whole heck of a lot differently if you got him at 33 than at 16. Yes Agreed, but I mean if you take if you take him at 33 You could still take a quarterback next year in the draft. All right, but I mean I take him I'm gonna take my 33. I'm gonna get up to take him at 30 The two of these there to get the fifth year option Probably do that. Yeah, let me move up the one spot All right, I'm gonna marry I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the to start with the same with Dave one. I'm gonna marry The 17th or later. Mm-hmm Oh

5:22I'll cuddle I'll cuddle 16. I'll trash 15 or higher. So you're saying there's a chance Well, I think there's a decent chance. I don't know who in the Who in the top 15 picks is going to take Are the browns going to mess around and take another quarterback at set think I think your answer is fair I just I don't think he's gonna go to the jets and that's why I trash the jets Well, you heard it may not be the jets, but Dan Grasse when he was with us last week adamant adamant that he's going Uh, where did he actually end up landed? So a number out there Rick. Yeah, he said before 16 But who again, I'm saying like who is trading up past the jets to take Ty Simpson Like the Rams the the rent the ramp 13 anyway, right, but the ramps thought that the thought was that the Rams had two first round picks So maybe with that second first round pick, they okay Ty Simpson can be our quarterback in the future, but they're trying to win a Super Bowl now. You got a 13. You got to take Ty Simpson To sit behind Matthew Stafford, right when you were right there on on the doorstep to win the Super Bowl last year

6:25The bangles aren't taking them. I mean the dolphins just paid Malik Willis cowboys aren't taking them chiefs aren't taking them saints aren't taking them Unless the I mean the browns are talking about having to Sean Watson start. They just drafted to quite a lot of truth You said John Watson, but I was reading that yesterday Not only the browns are talking about you see what the owner say. I was gonna say. Did you say? Do you see who said it? Yeah Well, do you see do you know who signed him? Yes, that would be the owner was that would be when Jimmy has them right so Jimmy has them said With the browns are leaning towards to Sean Watson starting translation to Sean Watson's going to start right As long as he's like physically capable of moving Let's go get just a disaster. Thanks for going well there. Can email for you RJ. Yeah, it's a nice offer Dave please tell RJ if he wants to come to Melbourne to watch the Niners I have a spare room my family is great company and I'll even get the tickets I'll even take a few days off of work to be his tour guide for the great city of Melbourne

7:26At that time of year the Australian rules football finals will be on we can probably get into that as well Give the little guy a week off so he can come down and hang out and watch the Niners see the last part What you're doing so well. He added that though. No, I did not it says little guy Give the it says little give the little I made it little But it says give the little guy a week off so you can come down under you know, I was Was I don't know if I would actually gone, but there was that some actual juice there No, there's no chance you're going. You don't know this man. You're not gonna stay at a right And there's also there's tremendous amount of pressure now What if you don't really like him and now you stuck with it for the whole week? Well, they were watching Aussie rules Rugby road then you get to do a hotel like any normal person would do Yeah, but then when are you gonna do that though? Because he's the one that bought the tickets and he has the tickets Now you're gonna you're gonna risk not going to the Niners game. You know, I got you know a lot of a lot of teams Would would hype up that game. Kyle Shanahan has no time for this whatsoever. Why would you want to play in that game? Nobody would want to know nobody would want to want to play in that game I think a lot of teams would you know put on a good face for the league Shanahan. No, she doesn't just none

8:31Um, so it's a nice offer, but you know who you know, all right so Adam. He says no thing This is actually a rick's fault because I was like where I was going to get my coffee this morning I'll hear by my loans. I'm just taking a moment and I stare over at the board and waiting for my coffee There it is again like we talked about little RJ. That's right. That's where he takes excuse from you You're a leader, but I mean think about how many people in the in the in the hip hop industry want to be a little Little Wayne RJ you in the hip hop community as I said do you think that's an accurate Parallel to make a little baby RJ what you don't even know is for some reason we were all Around that that whiteboard the other day and he makes a point goes hey Watch this and he takes his marker and he writes little RJ Yeah He wants to see that he's doing it. I thought it was a fun little game that RJ would play with me little Kim is low Yeah, see little Kim By the way

9:32I got I gotta say this, okay Well, we heard and renowned on with us on ESC and New York cousin right there little Jordan Humphrey We all love we all love. I we love trichon we met Luke we love there is no person better suited at the station To have the emergency medical kit read then Michael Nobody like there's never been a better Marriage between endorsing and endorser endorsing and endorser. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah Then having it in that home medical kit where you can self-diagnose yourself and take medicine. Oh, I see right Did you not hear the read for that? Yeah, I heard the read for it, but it's got Z-Packs It's got all sorts of medications. How do I everything you could possibly want? Right, but how do I use it? Well, just look at your symptoms on Bicycle paper self-medicate. Yes. Yeah, you're right. There's no but that's that's a a hand in glove fit. That is perfect It really is isn't it already so the next It feels like there's a growing list of teams when we

10:33It depends who you ask who on the show some differing opinion here But the teams that stack up in the east that will be playoff teams in terms of oh, I'd like to avoid that team It feels like that list is growing quickly So if we boil it down to one on the next concerns you the most And what could hold them back? How would you cut or marry trash these three? Would it be the possible playoff path which right now In theory it's daunting could be Atlanta Boston Detroit Oklahoma City Probably not how you draw it up. No Would it be their depth which I was reading yesterday and I saw they rank okay Quick guessing in where would you guess the next rank in in terms of Bench scoring in the link. I don't need an exact number, but you know middle what how many points or where they rank where they rank I'm gonna say they rank The reason why you're asking is gonna be bottom because you're asking 28. Yeah, oh that's surprising actually Or would it be not if someone out of the show has brought this up lately?

11:34Or would it be their coaching that could hold them back Coaching playoff path depth I'm gonna oh you go whoa whoa. Oh, go ahead easy. Go ahead. You fancy football with that fancy Interrupting buster like you did but go ahead. I thought that was a good I thought that was I had to I thought that was nice place to interrupt them you have to interrupt go ahead RJ I should get a comp day for having to work with him. I'm sure you can finagle somehow really Um, I will marry playoff path currently I will cuddle the coaching. I will trash the devil Uh, I would love to disagree, but I can't I agree with the board. I answered it for you. You answered it correctly. Hi welcome. Let's see how you do this one What will happen first? This is very simple Will the Jets make it back to the playoffs? Yeah, we're not a good person. Will the Giants

12:36Win a playoff game Or will the Yankees win a world series 65 Ah I see you're trying to do your transparent. I don't think so but I'll take the bait You're like a flounder if you're a master at that I'll take the bait. No no what no No What kind of fish would Dave be in the Nidan him? Maybe like a squad. No, no, no I would be was it fish? A mahi mahi like a delicious meaty wonderful fish I feel like you'd be something like with like a fat like a fatty tuna. No Yeah, no, no, like a blue fish Like a blue fish like you like the fish. I am a fan of blue fishing. All right, so I'm going to Possibly I'm a big fisher, but what do you fish for blues? Why would I do that? I don't know you tell us as it'll never make sense as he's passing out scalding hot tequila shots

13:40I also fish. Yeah, who fish now? I was all no now at that moment. I was a fisherman No, I didn't I didn't just give that up and I thought was fish, but I was a reason in that moment my response was yes. Yes, I do Yeah, I didn't I didn't what do you fish for stop playing? I'm trying to talk my god Forget it I try to speak and every time I open my mouth the guy is he's he's throwing at drops. Where do you do the bulk of your fishing out east? We go out east I'm not talking wait, let him finish the story right so he says what do you fish for and I said fluke? I'm a butter. I did fish the bottom. I'm a bottom fisher So yeah, I didn't I didn't give that up though. It's not like I said hey, I fish I was pointedly asked because he's like I'm a fisherman look at me I was at the all weekend. You know we wait Like you fish

14:43Yeah, it's like where do you fish these these are my island usually now that kind of thing Let me ask you let me ask you a question here. Yeah, so it clearly like you wanted I don't know if it was like you wanted to prove that you're like I know I don't know what happened I swear to you. Okay, whatever the moment was How do you say he was a hunter? Do you think you go right into I'm I also hunt maybe I think he is a hunter I think you do though. I think you like I maybe it was unbelievable I think I would have said anything It's like listen. I once spent the year in jail again. You need them too much What do you hunt? I think I could lie well I don't do it right knows I don't I don't want to scare past the if he said he was in jail Dave shows up with the knuckles No, what's your you know are you a yeah? Yeah, what do you shoot with you a buzz a loader kind of guy or a bow and air I use that he's I use a tank Yeah, yeah, I you typically break out the 30 rocket launcher

15:48These mines I said I said traps I Preferred hot with my mind Proximity mines 007 anyone get you to weapon into an animal grenades. I'll talk it down Dave will trace the deer down and tackle it I usually just talk it to death that's right I get into where did this other animal go to college and and 20 minutes in yeah the venison used dead It's better for the meat What was your question goodness what happens first jets make the playoffs giant to win a playoff game or Yankees win the world series God, that's funny All right, I know I know he's gonna answer it. I know you don't I do I'm gonna answer it the way it needs to be answered

16:50Right, you're gonna marry the giant to play off game. No, what I'm gonna answer it like this 65 I'm a sooner that's all gonna answer it We're gonna lose him on one of these and then I'm going to cuddle the jets and trash the Yankees Wow, yeah Interesting I didn't I mean I don't think the Yankees are gonna win the world series anytime soon Yeah, but you gave it the jets are gonna get into the play. I mean, but can't make the playoffs like three years if they make the playoffs Right, but I don't see the Yankees having a world series championship At all at all really the jets are starting to you know Right, I'm gonna marry a turn around happens immediately. Are you okay? I'm married the giant's winning a playoff game. I'll cuddle the Yankees when I'm Trash the jets. Yeah, well you have to trash the jets Well, I mean, I also have to recognize that I mean look at the two teams of my division

17:53I think that's no more than though you think the Yankees just have no chance for the foreseeable future to win a title To win the whole thing despite being I think there's a strong case we made the closest team to doing so They're the favorites that I mean, oh, no, no the Yankees are closer to winning than these other teams I don't think that they that they won't right now. Okay, it's to help a thing to become because as flawed as the Yankees are and They're process and their ownership and all that other stuff like that's been said they're closer than every other No, but that's not what are they asked he didn't say who's closer if he had said which team is closer? Yeah accomplishing these things the Yankees are closer clearly. No, but the point is you think it's not happening I don't think it will happen and you and you guys do I Think it has a better chance I'm not saying that it will happen I'm not gonna go six out of five sooner here, but I think the Yankees have a better chance of accomplishing. I already agrees with me And that should make you feel I also thinks that Jackson stars can be Dan Marino. Oh God

18:55You won't even need a fluffer if that's the kid. No, you need a minute a little bit. No, he's gonna. You have to take the same thing. Yeah, take take some time here All right, finally so The buster only interview we have weekly We love with video with video now with video today, but some troubling things have have Come as a result of buster joining us. If you play the question RJ. I'm not I'm not but I'm acknowledging its existence the 47 second question originated with buster And then today If this paints me in a negative picture no attack you it won't but there was a lot of negative picture. There was a moment where Rick teased asking a question kind of through a thought out there and then the whole cadence of the interview kind of got thrown into chaos and And there's one other thing that's troubling from where we're at right now So I said to you cut in my trash the most concerning thing that has come from the buster only interviews would it be a Rick

19:57asking a 47 second question. I'm glad you like I heard you would be a course correction where he's now not even asking questions Ask the question no Or would it be that despite don't get it despite buster acknowledging that he has more free time than he did last year still not agreeing to a date and time for the lunch I go first. Yep. You go first. There's one clear Mary. It's the it's eight chuckles. It's the 47 second question That's clear. I mean that's metal car that that's all of them. It should be all that should be the only answer that's marrying that Not getting the meal paid for yet. It's probably gonna be the couple Hope you hear some time in June and then I'm going to trash the course correction I mean some time in June like tomorrow's April so we're just wiping off April and may from the map. Well, he's not gonna be here, are you? but There comes a matter of landing of schedules and things like that. I think this is gonna be tough. Maybe It's as if we want to be here. So I think I give him the benefit of the doubt. He's buster. He's a great man

21:01I'm gonna trash the lunch the dinner or whatever Um the course correction. I'll I'll cuddle that And I'm sorry. I didn't bring it up the 47 second question will live on forever It doesn't have to though. I didn't have to. You can't play me for this. This was not my baby No, it's our baby. It's our baby and he'll laugh as he was trying to say that you say the answer Lessons no I think I I think I did as we course corrected say I was gonna ask a different question But I'll ask this question instead. It's no large. I find it funny RJ you didn't give your your answer though as far as that that you know This is not my question. Here's my question thing. Oh, you understand why I was confused by that. Yeah, it was cast I was it was cast that you guys And you guys went to school for this, which is the sad part Why's that said it's sad that you guys that I clearly asked the question in re in repositioning my question. I asked the question Did he answer something with however? I finished my statement did I have a question mark at the end of it? Yes

22:04Yes, you said that this is not my question question. I thought you were saying I'm gonna ask this and then I'll actually ask my question. No, I don't need to do that. It's it's Well, how would I know? Well, why would you need to say this is not my question then? Well, cuz I wasn't asking for that yes I wasn't gonna ask about ABS But it was your question because no because I had a nice nice tidy Quick question, and then I had to to make my neck my regular by other question is I had to give a little preamble You're totally overwhelmed by these interviews now. No, I'm not. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're overwhelmed with my greatness I'm like cronkite That's got my expression Steve concrete. Yeah, it's exactly who I am. Yeah, that's how you are How about that? Oh my god, you really you really are a treat I did I did a great job in the interview. Oh, yeah, you did you really think you were amazing

23:05Um, this is concerning. What got a threatening email about RJ. Whoa. No, I'll just get our toys a punk B Oh, give me two minutes along with him. I don't even believe in violence, but I hate him And then some awful things and I want to knock him out You're wise enough to send an email. Yeah, but what that's Fred G. Why Fred I don't know listed so much hate RJ. I don't know typically that that would be followed by like a rationale my wrong to be curious Maybe he can email back in a what why he hates you RJ. Yeah Some kind of reason would be nice. Yeah, it really would Smalls here. Look, I get it. GLP1 weight loss shots are popular. They're everywhere But not everyone is thrilled about weekly injections So what if your GLP1 was as easy to take as a mint? That's why I want you to know about compounded to zepatide It's a mint flavored tablet you simply let dissolve under your tongue no needles It's designed to help curb appetite and reduce cravings even sweets and carbs Which are my personal enemies and when hungers under control

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28:11Is if Demi Moore as as John ham's wife, right? Is she supposed to look like All plastic or or do you think that like that's how she looks and they just have no choice but to have her look like that I think that's just her natural look So that's how she looks and they just that's that's what it is. Yeah, I think that I mean like this like how Nicole Kidman looks right Like I think there's I mean when you start doing work, you know, yeah, then you kind of go too far get that fakie kind of look Um, I mean she's in her 60 so she looks good for in her 60, but she looks like she's at some work I'm actually I'm surprised John ham Only lasted as long as he lasted I didn't want to say anything because I went ruined for anyone But he well, you know his other shows coming back like now also maybe that neighbors is coming back for a second So maybe that's the reason maybe I don't have the end sort of been too much because I like them on that show I like I he's terrific. I like him on every show he does He's really neighbors is good too. Uh ESPN New York programming alerts. Pay attention now. Programming alerts. This is big news programming alert

29:15Tonight's Rangers and Devils game Can only be heard in one spot one place that's it and that's the ESPN New York app So download the ESPN New York app so you're ready It's New York Rangers hockey and it's only on again. It's only on the ESPN New York app. Yes, here's the beauty of this though. Yeah It can be heard in the one place, but taken anywhere Right Anywhere So you're not like I'm gonna be I get a listen to in the car you take this thing anywhere anywhere you want to listen to this thing You choose the matter It's up to you So easy Dave can do it. That's right. That's the slogan. That's nice. Do you what would you say? We'll get to the Jets in a second here from Mademouge Would you say that of all the people at the station? I am the most technologically challenged. Yes No doubt no question RJ you agree with that

30:19Oh I don't I don't exactly think Rick is uh Is Bill Gates over here. I don't think I'm high level, but I'm better than you. Okay, so you think you're better than me. Yep Carlin Bart better Yeah, I think everyone on the afternoons show has to be just because they're like they're constantly on the go So they have to be able to figure some things out on the fly. Okay. Here's my potential saving raise Michael Well, Michael's also on his own a lot He's traveling with the team and Michael's big into the social media and stuff like he's He's attacking people yesterday on social media. He's dialed. I think it's got to be you unfortunately I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. I like it's a good thing RJ wow That's not nice the world you think of paying you a compliment. He said you're the worst the most technologically challenged at the station Yeah, but I mean that's That's great point I'm I'm finding it easier and easier to to recognize now why there's so much hate Aim towards you today. Oh from who it's like I said Fred just everybody Fred

31:20Whoever it is it just because you got a real I got I'm getting a bunch of I got more But I didn't even read some of them you read them all because he's got a real Emails in how does it feel to be RJ Small little weasel of a boy. I can't imagine living like that. I kick my own butterfly was him You know how you say you claim you don't encourage this website. This is zero. This is your website. It's it's an email This is you encouraging this Fred G RJ is the same front bleep. Oh, that's that's the guy we heard from him already But I'm getting a lot again a lot of it seems like it's Fred Fred is one person Fred feels away. There was the other guy that I read I know is that people are unhappy for some reason unhappy with you and want to physically harm you You can't wait to talk about it. Well, he does have a I wasn't going to Rick said. Please read them Right, but he does don't you feel like he has a I'm better than you twinge to his is delivery today. Mm-hmm. Yeah I can understand it. RJ do you think you're better than us? No, never

32:22I don't believe that. Yeah, I don't believe that either But would you call him earlier but the wall blender? Yeah Today he's not a wall blender. I don't look like the wall at all I said today's he's not a wall blender. Devon Williams has the airbender. We have the wall wall blender. We have the wall blender I like that. Yeah, you shouldn't be allowed to wear gray I like not sitting that close to the wall. He shouldn't because you blend right into the wall. You're like a comedian Listen, you can't learn. He's just can't make everyone happy. You can try. He's just whoa. It's especially people named Fred Fred hates you. He seems that way. He said you're a punk little B. You could say that anyone. It wants to pummel you I will say this to I will say this to Fred. I apologize for RJ and how you feel about RJ, but please Don't let your hatred for RJ Not allow you to download the app so you can listen to the Rangers devils. I totally agree with that Yeah, I mean, that's that's really the thing is it's it's so easy so easy. It's so easy Even Dave can do it. I love it. Yeah, it's it is a nice slogan. All right, so let's hear from the mouge

33:24Here he is. How was the meeting with Ty Simpson? It was good. It was a good visit with Ty I'm really enjoyed the time down there. We went to dinner had a had a work on the point with him. It was good Man, I and this is the way it should be. I really can't figure out whether they they are truly truly Thinking about taking Ty Simpson at 16. Oh, I think you got a you have to You have to absolutely love him Right, like he has to he has to sweep you off your feet like it has to be This was this is one of the greatest meetings. The workout was great. Right. We love the tape Because otherwise you I mean you have the three first round picks in 27 where the you know again We don't know you're speculating that that class is going to be better You got two quarterbacks to the top of that class now That if they if they were in this shaft, we're gone ahead of Ty Simpson no question already He he would be if those two came out arch and don't they more he would be the fourth quarterback in this class All right, Mendoza is ahead of him It well, right. I mean those is ahead of him

34:27I mean those are not going one probably if those two no, Mendoza no, he wouldn't go one I I think he'd probably go ahead of Dante Moore But I think that arch would go number one in this class So do you wait? Do you run the risk you can? I you can you can but if again like One in the hands better than two in the bush. Is that how it goes? Yep So if you love him Do you want to run the risk and you think that you know there's enough talent now the moves you've made Once you get through this draft Maybe you're buying into that air and Glenn you know just had a rough first year that you're gonna win six or seven games And now what happens if if you love them I think you have to take him No, I mean how could there be a quarterback that you could get at 16 you love him How could you sell on not taking him if you love him? If you love him. Yeah, but again, I mean you have I think the other problem you have is that you have potentially two different timelines Right, like I mean they Glenn came in first and then they hired Mooji. So it's not like it's a package deal where it's like

35:32You brought in You know you brought in a coach and GM that were tied together necessarily it feels like you know Mooji's done a good job Aaron Glenn hasn't so Mooji's gonna be here To pick the next coach if he has to So like how much does Mooji buy into Aaron Glenn also Because if there's any question as to whether or not Aaron Glenn's gonna be a good guy. We don't know that right Well for Mooji it feels like he's in again, they could say whatever they want But it feels like Mooji's kind of established himself as the guy So if if when push comes to shove at the draft, you know Glenn wants one thing and Mooji wants something it feels like that Mooji might win out like do you want to Do you want to take a quarterback at 16 things don't work out with Aaron Glenn and now I got the I got the quarterback I'm trying to find a new coach and I got three first round picks And who knows who that first round pick is I mean if that what did say it's two And I got a new coach. What am I gonna tell him hey? No, no you can't take the quarterback you like you got to stick with no You're gonna you're gonna have to say listen We can move on from Simpson or he gave me the backup and we're gonna take the quarterback you wanted to overall

36:34You can't hamstring yourself So if you if you draft Simpson and the season is a disaster and you win three games and you're fire Aaron Glenn You can't say to a new coach that you want no you can't take Dante more We're all set with Ty Simpson you'll you'll get nobody Right so again, I mean, it's just a it's a weird clunky Situation yes, that's correct especially because there's no clear cut consensus as to what Ty Simpson is Right, I mean some people like him some people don't well I'm gonna be a bougie and staff. You're gonna have to trust yourself Of course, and that's exactly how you'd want it, right? I mean this is again Why we have this argument with people where it's more important to win games as opposed to having the higher traffic Well, it's a craps you will let it be my crapshoot Let let let me be the one that makes the decision as opposed to hoping that someone you know just getting whatever's left Yes, and hoping it's the right choice Yeah, you don't want to scrap so you want to be the one you want to be the run one running the race Right if I'm going out reacting to those that run the race right if I'm going out I want to go out with a pick that I mean absolutely. I'm going. I'm if it's not going to work It's not going to work the way I want it to not work correct

37:34um RJ you want positive emails here you go Jennifer from Tampa writes in I see the list of fiery RJ. Yeah, I hope he stays this way Fred sucks That's very nice. Thank you Jennifer. I most curious to find out why what I did to make Fred so mad I'm not even opposed to it. I'm just curious He's the ladies emails. Clearly. He's probably he's probably doesn't have the kind of hair that you have and he's probably jealous I'm I'm just care. I'm who knows maybe he's a leaf's fan. We don't know He probably recognizes too that if you're six two Yeah, that's a good one. You're the greatest you're the greatest weapon didn't of all time. I don't know about that But you're a man-missile. Oh, RJ can describe himself as six six two now That's something at some point Fred then they'll measure him and they'll realize he's not six. What are they going to measure him? Officially, I'd ESPN New York roster. I think when we get into the ABS game at ESPN. Oh Till that time until that time RJ six two to prove it proven proven otherwise. Well, good luck throw me strikes

38:34We're live on base. It doesn't matter what the slow race tracks on is because you make King King make contact anywhere. Oh, there you go Yeah, but yeah, but you'll do it anyway I deserve that now I think when you make an awful comment about someone and you respond like man, you didn't deserve that it doesn't make it better really doesn't That's that's the thing about this show that conversation started 30 seconds prior about a man named Fred threatening to beat me up it ended with rage is catching us right out of nowhere. My name is having said no words That's beauty Ray was even involved in the conversation We were pilot on RJ and I feel like someone else needed to take a little bit of shrapnel No, that's the show though. That's the show. I'm genuinely curious about why Fred so mad. I'll tell you what though I'll tell you what though. That is that is the beauty Of a locker room is that you got to make sure at all times your paying attention. What's going on

39:37Because you could catch you could catch a straight any moment He wasn't even involved in the conversation because of matter. He's in the locker room. He's like a fair game I feel like 50 cent right now, but you say that to me for That he was supposed to be here today. The proof was in the pudding. We all watched it. Yes. We were there. It's not great Well softball, too. Wasn't like all right enough Do it No, you told me I can't say you don't deserve it. I said something mean. I stand by it. Get it all out. Get it all out right by it. Get it all out Go on big giant softball. Let's go. Good. You know it Empty empty the tank. What else? No, I have not that's it. I I That's a lot of done it. That's a lot of done it Be infinitesimums here now I did not know this and you may not have known this I didn't know it until my wife told me that fast growing trees is America's largest most trusted online nursery She's ordered everything you can imagine from a lemon and lime tree used to blueberry bushes They have over two million happy customers

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42:46Hello, this is bill from Chester, New Jersey. This is bill from Chester, New Jersey This is going well. I wouldn't it be yeah. All right. Go ahead bill. What's on your mind? Watch Luis Castillo last night and it just epitomizes how the Yankees overvalue their prospects because in 2022 The Yankees were intended on trading for this guy And they want that they wouldn't give up Davy Garcia and Jason Dominguez or Volpe and Paraza Just curious what you guys think is going to happen at the trade deadline when somebody wants George Lombard or Spencer Jones They're not trading George Lombard to get This is their thing though, right? We actually I thanks the call bill in Chester We actually talked about this before the show before we're on air Like that's a trade that they should have made now in hindsight. I mean you'd like Castillo the Yankees are very rich in pitching But you talk about what will they do with the trade deadline? There's no way they're trading George Lombard. There's no way they would trade him No, and this is I get I completely understand the frustrations because when you hear about these players and

43:51What do you mean what the Yankees expectations are for these players and They're so hyped up and you hear okay. Hey Luis Castillo's available and Frankie Montas is available But the Yankees aren't willing apart with you know Paraza or Volpe whoever these guys are and then you get it You know get a chance to see them play and by the time you get to see them play it's like hmm this guy's not Nearly what I thought he would be or he doesn't get a real chance to play because there's no spot for him And then well, what's he worked now? Well, then he loses all all his value Right, so we get Frankie Montas who I mean RJ had mentioned should be sued by the league for stealing Serious at some point Montas must have been capable. No Well, I mean according to David Sterns. He was And that's worked out well right well the Yankees wanted him the Mets wanted him like why would all these teams want him if it was always such a loser Well, I mean the Yankees really I mean they got him but they they really wanted Luis Castillo They just weren't willing to pay the price for it. Well, they wanted him as a secondary option, but it's not like they had no interest in him No, I mean, there was definitely interest in him. I get it and then for whatever reason David Sterns decided to give him a two-year deal

44:57For what 17 per? Yes, good money But here's the deal with the Yankees as much as the Yankees fan wants to believe that for Brian Cashman and Halsteinburner It's world series of bust for them And how they want to run this business because that's what it is. It's a business It's in their best interest as far as they're concerned to be good every year as opposed to start You know gutting the farm system to try to chase the championship in that season But well, I mean you tell me would you rather win one year and then have other years where you're just not great or would you rather be Competitive every single season what I would want and you want to win makes better sense financially would want to win Right, but that bit these fans aren't These fans aren't the ones responsible for you know Answering questions from the board or making payments and everything else Right and but on the flip side from the Yankees standpoint. They want they want you know people to be in in the stands They want people to be to be buzz around the team and around the stadium and they don't they don't want 17,000 people at a game

45:58No, they don't want this thing to just fall off a cliff because they went for it and didn't win it Because in their mind they mean like they've said how many different times you have to hear before you believe that what they say is they think that the playoffs are a capsule Which is what is ridiculous right which is funny because I mean if you look at the like if again if you look at the history of We'll just say this team with Aaron Boone It feels like you know every time Aaron Boone goes into a series where the Yankees Are supposed to be the better team the Yankees have success Right when they don't then they don't I mean look at last year they were supposed to beat the red socks they beat the red socks They were supposed to probably lose to Toronto and they I don't know that they were supposed to get embarrassed like that But they lost to Toronto right so again I mean so now if is that a crapshooters that just say we got to make sure that I think they kind of are what they are They're they're one of the better teams in baseball. They beat the teams for the most part They should beat when they go up against the teams that are better than them. They don't beat them They weren't better than the Dodgers two years ago the Dodgers beat them had they way mocked them on the way out like

46:59The Yankees were the best team in the American League I think that's kind of more like they are what they are and they are living up to what they should be doing They're just not the best team in baseball Right, so I mean I guess the point is if that's the case if every time if I have a An extended period of time Where every time I give you the better team you win And every time you have the inferior team you lose is that a crapshooters that's just how it's like Okay, so like So at what point do you say okay? Let's just make sure we go again I only have a couple more years of Aaron judge. Let's make sure as much as it it may hurt later Going now May like have the better team So we give ourselves the best chance to win a world series. I agree Or do we just keep it status quo you would trade let me just say if I have this right you would trade George Lumbard If it meant you bring it in a massive peace in return Oh No, you would not

48:01for the for the reason for the reason that Anthony Volpe hasn't really shown anyone that he's capable of being in the full-time shortstop I'm not going with Cabayero And Lumbard would be the one that kind of fits into that spot. Okay, so that's your shortstop of the future But Dominguez spends a joint like that those are pieces that it's like well where are they playing anyway? Yeah, but Dominguez doesn't have any value now We're certainly not what he wants had nobody even before that even before that Well, definitely not now. I mean Spencer Jones might still But no one's playing right field you just signed balance your long-term and then I mean I guess Grisham's got the one year, but I mean Dominguez wasn't good enough to play left field. He's gonna play center field Oh, no, I don't think he can at the moment he can't play the outfield which is which is your problem RJ have clarification from you for you. Is this Fred? The bleeper RJ. He just sucks up to Rick all the time and that's why people hate him Stop being a little guy be a big guy and handle your business What business? I don't think he sucks up to me all the time I think he rick told me an hour go right down the middle that I've been

49:06I've been sucking up today for the last hour or the last year to say RJ takes that advice and I don't know Goes at Rick Consolite. Well, I mean, I don't think he needs to go. I don't I don't think what he's saying is go at Rick I think the the email was just saying can we get a little more fairness from RJ down the middle? I think the the fact that both of you think that he's taking the other one over you I would say that I mean he's playing down the middle when we go to RJ as the Mediator he goes to to Rick all the time. I think I think we've picked up on what's happened here Fred Is Dave is a plant. Yep. Okay. They get a message across. Yeah I understand. That's fine. However, you want to use your website Well, it is his website. You know, and I can't with you It's not just gonna go hang out my business and we'll talk after the uh I work with ignoramuses stand up handle your business however, however, you want to handle your nasty website

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