Hour 2 – Larry Bird Debate, Roger Bennett

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3:01If you would like to watch all of this unfold, you can with Peacock, the NBC Sports Network, and of course our radio affiliates. I heart radio, Fox Sports Radio. Roger Bennett, men and blazers. One of our favorite guests. He has a book out, new book out. That'll be a number one New York Times best seller. It has to do with the World Cup and Reggie Miller, NBA on NBC. He'll join us coming up as well. Each seven, seven, three, D.P. Show operator. Tyler is going to take your phone calls coming up. Email address, D.P. at Dan Patrick dot com. Twitter handle a D.P. Show, Seaton. Pull question results from hour one, and then we'll look at hour two. Yeah, we got up there. Who would you rather watch a game with? You could watch football with Ross Tucker, soccer with Roger Bennett or basketball with Reggie Miller. Ross Tucker's got 53% of that vote followed by Reggie Miller or respectable 33. Okay. For sure. Yeah, absolutely. And then Paulie sent this one in. Who would you follow? Who would you follow in a fire? Follow. Follow in a fire as in the places on fire

4:04and the five of us go in one different in different directions. Who are you following? Dan Paul, Seaton, Todd, Marvin. Well, not Todd. Well, he's an option. Yes, not Todd. I don't know. I think Todd instinctively is going towards these safest places fastest humanly possible. He would go to the safest place. It would take him longer to get to the safest place. Therefore, it might not be the safest place by the time he got. But I could bring it to your attention and point to where I'm trying to get to. You guys can just speed ahead to that. That's kind of like the, you don't have to outrun a bear. You just have to outrun the person you're with. Strategy. Yes. Got it. Yes. Got it. Because yesterday, Todd was quick to leave the building. He left faster than Elvis left the building. Once the fire was raging out of control. And the big German put it out. I know my limitations. I wasn't going to be able to figure out what's going on. I had to put it out so it might as well just save myself. No, and I respected that. You weren't going to help. And you made sure you got out the door.

5:05I think I did say, guys run. There's a fire. You might have done that. I don't know if that's helpful. While you were running. Yes. We didn't hear you. Your voice was trailing off. From the parking lot. I think he said run. But you know, we've survived an earthquake here. A couple of like six years ago, we survived the fire. It'll be known as the fire of 2026. But we were good. But thanks. Thanks. Once again, to the big German who is a may certified firefighter. And he was ready with his equipment. And you know, if we had to break down the door. He had an axe to do that. Others have axe to grind. He has an axe that he would use just to free me from this side of the potential disaster. All right. So Roger Bennett will join us coming up. We have our poll question for hour two. We had a caller at the end of last hour talking about Duke is not a blue blood basketball program. Because you have to have like I'm going to paraphrase here.

6:08At least two coaches at your university winning a national championship. Because Duke hasn't had that yet because coach gave us there for 40 years. And John Shire has come close, but he has not won a national championship. But if you're going to sit here and tell me UCLA is a blue blood only because Jim Herrick won a title. And to couple that with John Wooden, I'm not buying that. Joe B Hall won a national title. Of course, eight off for up at Kentucky. I don't know how many pro because there might be a couple of sneaky programs at one titles. But you wouldn't think that they were blue bloods. Yes, Paulie. I've got a few definitions here looking this up. Some are obvious elite historically dominant. D1 programs with multiple national titles. Regular final four appearances over generations. Kentucky, North Carolina. Duke, they started kind of in the late seventies being good. But they've been good for 45 years. Great. Basically. Yeah, they were good when coach K got there. UCLA wasn't great when coach Wooden got there.

7:11They look at UCLA as a blue blood who isn't as good as they used to be. But they are considered a blue blood. Kansas J. Hawks, of course, the Indiana Hoosiers, the past 20 years, not great. But they had a long run. Yeah, but they only won with Bob Knight. So that doesn't make him a blue blood. If you don't have another coach who won a national title, according to one of our listeners. I like to call Yukon a new blood. Because Yukon, since 1999, is the most successful college basketball program. Men's and women's, but men's. Yeah, but the women's is not a blue blood because you've only had Geno there. Right. According to this definition, which I don't buy into it, Yukon, men's and women's blue bloods. Should it be years, not amount of coaches? Yeah. I want pro-longed dominance, consistency, high level basketball or, you know, it could be football as well. Yes, he. But I see the point, though, that you can have, you could be consistently great for 40 years.

8:12But if it's only with one guy, then it's really the guy that's great and not the program. Yeah, but we're giving UCLA credit for, you know, Jim Herrick winning a title that made him a blue blood because they want a title. And John wouldn't want all his titles. Yeah. No, I know. Maybe I shouldn't. Yeah. So what we're saying, UCLA, not a blue blood? Obviously. They're a blue-ish, like a light blue-ish blue blood. Yes, Marvin. Villanova, Raleigh Massimino and Jay Wright. Yeah. I'm not sure if you would call them a blue blood, but they're blue blood-ish. They've been really good for long time. Well, with this definition, once again, I don't buy into that. So John Shire wins a national title this year. Oh, now Duke's a blue blood. The Duke blue blood. Yes, he. There are some that obviously pass this new smell test, right? Kentucky, for sure. North Carolina, for sure.

9:13Yeah, Kentucky's had three coaches when national titles. Kansas. Ford, Marvin. Rupp, Joe B. Hall, Patino, Calipari. Patino won an actual title at Kentucky. In 96. Oh, that's right. I was there. I'm sorry. I'm old. Yeah, I was actually there at that game in the locker room afterwards. Okay. There's no other school that has four coaches to win national titles at the same school, do they? Yeah, Paul. Yeah, Kentucky has Rupp, Joe B. Hall, Rick Patino, Tubby Smith. They got five. And John Calipari. Dang, Tubby. Tubby. Tubby. First year after Patino left. I won with Patino's players. Technically, he counts on his tab. Oh, apologies. Dang. It's a tough instant. Okay. Well, it is the blue grass state. A bystander. Yeah. All right. Five coaches. That's as blue as you can be.

10:13Yeah. Kind of interesting. I'm sure this audience will chip in with a few others there. I love listening to Jeff Teague. Jeff Teague has the Club 520 podcast. And he wasn't a great player. But he is an honest broadcaster. He was a good player. You know, he's a guy that you remember the name and maybe you saw him a little bit. But when it comes to giving opinions, he is elite. And he talked about how Larry Bird would do in today's NBA. Watch out. And y'all think how good, y'all could just... How good you think Larry Bird would be right now? Larry Bird. He would be a small four version. You think he would be like one of the best like... Yeah. Larry Bird would do this night and night. Sometimes I used to watch older people play. I used to be like, man, yeah, Florida can't do this. But then when I watch y'all, it's just like, he's walking around. Yeah. Like it looks so stuff.

11:13I'm like, Larry Bird play right now. Like Luca and y'all could just be walking around. Larry Bird. Larry Bird. Bernie. For sure. 18. And these guys are right. We get caught up in all this guy couldn't play now. Bird would be... He would have the green light to take 10 three pointers again. Because back when he was playing, you might take two or three. That was it. It'd be really rare if it took more than three three pointers. You know, as far as passing, rebounding, scoring, he would be a smaller version of Joker. And I think Joker is the best player in the game. Because when he goes out there, he has the potential to give you 30, 15 and 10 every single night. And it used to be unheard of when you would put up those kind of numbers. Now, I know we're scoring more. But these are still elite athletes. And he makes it look really, really easy. And it's not like he's going to slow down because he can't get any slower.

12:14And Bird was more athletic than Joker. He could lead the fast break. If you look when they played against the Lakers, the Celtics are running a fast break on Showtime. But Bird would not have any... I mean, would he have problems? Yeah, he would. But he would be great. And, you know, he might be able to prolong his career, better conditioning, help his back. But Larry Bird would dominate. He would be a great player. And I go with LeBron's best year ever. And Larry's best year. And I think they were around 29. And Larry was a better player than LeBron. Like on the offensive side, better player. And I don't know. I think LeBron made a few old NBA defensive teams. But I mean, he was more and off the ball. Just like Bird played the passing lanes. He would be guarding anybody really. Yeah, Paul. At the end of that riff, one of the guys says, Bird these days, he'd average 30, 10, and 8.

13:15His last year before he heard his back, he averaged 30, 10, and 8. And he'd be shooting, like you said, twice as many threes. Yeah, he would still, you know, once again, having been there and watched it at a very, very high level. It's like, oh, would magic be able to... Yes, magic would be able to be. You know, Rick Barry, who's one of the most underrated players in the history of the sport. These guys were all great. They know how to play basketball. Yeah, see. What if Larry Bird started putting up all those shots and missed a lot of them and then his legacy was significantly diminished? Or he was then considered overrated. You can look, he can't shoot threes. I take my chance on Larry shooting threes. What if all this and what if it didn't work out for him? And that's why he only took threes because he wasn't really that great of a shooter. Well, when you have people say if your life was on the line and you wanted somebody to take a three-pointer, your actual life, limited window really to see. It's really very small person. Yeah, Larry would be great. But if everybody knew he was that great of a shooter, then why didn't they let him shoot?

14:18It wasn't part of the offensive philosophy. Yeah, but if you have this kind of shooter and you're like, man, this dude's knocking them down like crazy. Why don't we just let him rip? Well, they didn't do that for Reggie. Yeah, why not? That's the offensive philosophy back then. It was about getting the ball inside. It was still, it was an interior game. Yeah, Paul. It's a really fair question. Why didn't Larry Bird take eight threes a game? He took 2.9. The most he ever took in a season. Like you said, the sport was just totally different. That would have been too radical. It's almost like Dan Marina. Why didn't Dan Marina happen a decade earlier? The sport hadn't morphed yet to have that opening. Or have a coach that would push for that. Yeah. And you see basketball now, and you know, I always bring up Loyal to Marymount. What they did, even go back to Rick Patino's team at Providence, and what he did there using the three pointer. That wasn't a good team, but he made them a great team because he had an offensive philosophy. And I think Paul Westhead with Loyal to Marymount,

15:20to have that creative, you know, even with football. You know, when you're running, if it was the West Coast offense, or you're running a pistol, or whatever, you know, June Jones, who was the other guy from Texas? It was another coach. Houston, Mouse Davis? Yes. Yes, Mouse Davis. You know, these guys were innovators. But the NBA was pretty boring, conservative. The ABA brought out the best in the NBA, because except for the red, white, and blue ball, which I'd be fine if they brought that back. I've watching that ABA documentary. Man, I loved shooting with that red, white, and blue ball. Just getting the spin. You know, it's just, you can see the rotation, as it went into the net, Marvin. Oh, no, I get you. Oh, let me ask you a question. Okay. A bigger ego. Everybody on Earth or Rick Berry. That's my question. But he was a killer. He was great. He was great.

16:20But he'll tell you about it. He will. Yeah. Rick Berry was great, just asked Rick Berry. But what he did with that golden state team, and they won the NBA championship, and that was Rick Berry. Now, he had a great assortment of players, role players. But the other player that he had was Jamal Wilkes. I think Silk Wilkes was there. But they didn't have, you know, undersized guards. And Rick Berry, he was, he was a great player, great player. Yes, Marvin. Is he in the Moses Malone category where you don't talk about him enough, or the general public don't talk about him enough, the way we talk about maybe Magic and Michael and those guys? Well, there was nothing, you know, I talk about Moses that artistically stylistic, it wasn't pleasing to watch. He was just relentless. Like his, his jumper was over his head and a little off balance.

17:21It wasn't a good jumper, jump shot. But on the boards, he's probably the best that I ever saw offensively and defensively combined. Now, we can put Wilton Russell in there. But I'm just talking about modern day, and Moses was great. But he came along, came out of high school, went to the ABA. And, you know, they maybe you missed some of that early career. It's like Dr. J. I mean, Dr. J. God, his best years in the ABA. He was just different. He was different than anybody else. But this gives you an idea, and that's what I loved about the ABA documentary. It's a lot of interviews, a lot of guys still alive that they talk to and they're very enjoyable. They brought back a lot of memories. The fact that I'm watching the Kentucky colonels in person, and they're playing the spirits of St. Louis. And you got Dan Isle and artist Gilmore. And then you had Marvin Bad news Barnes.

18:22I think Fly Williams on the team. I think Bob Costas was the broadcaster. He was. Yeah. Marvin Bad news Barnes sounds like a boxer. Wait, he went to prison. I played it Providence with Ernie D. Gregorio. Dude, who's like the Phantom weight. He was not Bantam. He was six nine. He was Bad News. Marvin Bad News Barnes. I did a story when I was at ESPN. I visited him in a California lockup. And that was surreal because you do the interview. Obviously in kind of the general area. And people thought he was getting preferential treatment. Like they were just yelling. I'm trying to do an interview. And yeah, that was to see him that he had fallen that far that he was in prison. And I think outside of San Diego. All right. When we come back, Roger Bennett. Men in Blazers and his book on the World Cup.

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22:33No purchase necessary, VTW Group, voidware prohibited by law, CTNCs, 21 Plus, sponsored by Chamba Casino. Got a book in the mail the other day? Realized it was from Roger Bennett, and I said Fritzy. We got to get Mr. Men and Blazers, the media network now. He's got an empire, he's Roger Bennett, he's the founder, CEO of Men and Blazers, media network, fully British, but fully American as well. It's called We Are the World Cup, a personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. Great to have you back. Oh, damn Patrick, it's a joy to see you beautiful. How are you? How's morale? I'm alive, Dan, which is better than the other option. But only just is the honest truth in every regard. These are the best of times, the worst of times, 100 days out from a world cup. And the world is making it quite complicated, I'm not going to like it.

23:33Okay, if you're going to pitch to somebody 30 seconds and you're going to say you've got to watch the world cup, how would you use those 30 seconds to say you've got to watch this event? Oh, tell them to buy my book because it's a magical telling of the power of the men's tournament, which I've come to realize, Dan, it's like a solar eclipse in golf, the entire planet for its duration. Who doesn't want to be part of that? I think that was even less than 30 seconds, sir. Well, you know, time is money, Dan. And you know, you know that when the Boston Red Sox played the Oakland Athletics, it's a fantastic game of baseball. It's like chess with chewing tobacco. But when two teams take their nation's shirts onto a football field, their nation's history, their nation's politics, their nation's cultures, take the field alongside them. It's a mirror to humanity. It's a mirror to our world. I think what Whitman, if he was alive today, he'd be a big football fan.

24:34He'd say it contains multitudes. And then the only other thing I'd say before we get into this, in our dark world, a world of chaos, the World Cup, 200 million people watch the Super Bowl max probably, at this point, 5 billion people watch the World Cup. And so it's the last thing that completely, electrically, globally connects us in, please go the positive way, and we really need that right now, huh? Yeah, but you don't shy away from the geopolitical portion of the World Cup and certainly what's going on now, teams that are countries that are going to be in, like is Iran not going to be in, and then who do you put in if Iran's not going to be playing in the World Cup? You know, who quite possibly could come in if Iran don't get in, because they're already 36 hours into the weekend's darkness, the head of the Iran Football Federation said, yeah, we may not be able to play in this World Cup in Los Angeles and Seattle.

25:34It would be a rack, Dan. Oh, wow. Yeah, to your question, it's why I wrote the book, which starts in 1978, the first World Cup, I remember every four years, it's the spine of my life. Spine of so many Americans life now, this incredible tournament that is so rare, and almost like, you know, Dylan albums for Dylan Eficionade, the World Cup is an alternate way for me of re-examining my biography, and again, millions of people around the world feel the same. I've always felt the joy of football is that it is a mirror to the world that surrounds it in all seriousness. It's always been very beautiful to me, you know, when the World Cup was in South Africa in 2010, Mandela, South Africa, and we got to see a whole continent rise and seize the world spotlight. It's very, very profound, it's very, very beautiful. We come to realize in modern times

26:35that the mirror stays true, even when the world becomes chaotic and ugly. It's kind of where we are right now. And as you say, the geopolitics could not be more complicated. It's fairly unprecedented that this situation, not just the US situation, you know, Mexico, the violence there in Guadalajara, a World Cup city. Let's just say Canada as the third host, looking pretty bloody good right now. You look at the US team, and it feels like in a different generation with land in Donovan and Tim Howard, like we knew them. This team, I don't know if they're going to be more talented, I don't know if they're better, but it doesn't feel like we know this American team as much as we did that team, you know, from a few years ago. Isn't that crazy? Because football has never been more popular in the United States than it is now. The economist, a couple of weeks ago, revealed that soccer is America's third favorite sport, just pushed out baseball.

27:3610% of Americans say soccer is their favorite sport of choice, baseball at 9%. I was laughing, I went on A-Rod show, and he kept asking me variations of the same question, which was like, when's soccer going to take off from the United States? I was like, A-Rod, it's just edged out your baseball, baby. I felt like, I felt like I was saying, the world is round A-Rod and you are a flat earth. So the sport's never been more popular. We have a young audience that's grown, World Cup to World Cup across this nation. And the crazy thing that's happened is, in the olden days, we used to cheer the US team just by default, because it was like what you had. But now this young audience, they cheer for Liverpool, they cheer for Arsenal, they cheer for Paris and German, they cheer for Barcelona Real Madrid. They are watching 24-7. And you're right, it does feel like the US team has almost gone into a bubble. And I do hope as one of the storylines, because we've never had more talented male players individually than we currently have right now playing on bigger teams

28:37and bigger games and bigger tournaments. Our women kick ass and take names and actually win things. But the men's team need to make some noise at this tournament to make our nation really care. Does Christian Policic want to be the face? Does he want to be bigger? Because you have to put yourself out there to want to be the face of US soccer. You will have to get Christian Policic to answer that question himself. He is a... We've tried, he doesn't do much. Who doesn't say yes to debate this game? I agree. I agree. Get Fritzy on the case, man. I mean, I'll say, I first interviewed Christian when he was 16. He is the most talented, the most accomplished young male football on nations ever produced in terms of playing at the biggest games for the biggest teams consistently scoring. Clint Dempsey is the most remarkable in terms of his,

29:38you know, thriving in Europe. What Christian has done is without a doubt what he can do with a football is without a doubt peerless. And he's also incredibly quiet. He's also incredibly introverted. But he's also the gentleman who's cursed early by a reality TV show at a porn store where they were trying to explain how much a Christian Policic signed jersey should be and that the porn shop owner goes, oh, dude, like the LeBron James of soccer. So that's kind of cursed him. And he is the commercial face. You'll see him in every ad. The ones that David Beckham is going to be all over our World Cup. But given the choice, does he want to do it? The honest truth is he's made it very clear. He doesn't. He loves playing football. It's where he speaks. I mean, you know athletes like this in the NBA and the NFL. They like to do their talking on the court. That's who Christian Policic is in his heart and so. Policic reminds me of Mike Trout from the Angels.

30:40Mike Trout, you know, it's like we're waiting for him to show his personality. He's not going to. Hey, you got to be the face of the sport. It's not happening here. It's like, you know, western McKinney might be the guy that people focus on and go, all right, that guy, you know, he wants to be maybe a little bit more. Yeah, I mean Chris Richards who plays in the Crystal Palace in the Premier League. The Premier League, this child of Birmingham Alabama who has made it to the Premier League. You have not really acknowledged. I bloody blown away. Damn, in your arc. Can I just say? I mean, I tell a story in the book about how I started a do morning joke in 2010, way ahead of football really taking off here. Joe Scott, which is love the Premier League, would have me on. It was crazy. Like they'd be doing like stagflation. The recession in the economy with Mike Bloomberg. And then they'd be like, and here's what you've been in. And I'd be like, you're. So I drop in. And the second time I was on Tom Brucker,

31:42stopped me and goes, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. And I said, what Tom? And he goes, why are we talking about soccer? On money when we have baseball and young Americans love baseball. And we should be talking about baseball. And he went off on me for five minutes. I didn't get a word in. But in my own head, I was like, I can't interrupt Tom Brucker. It's like the queen. You don't interrupt the game. And he just, he danced on my graves. You know, spat me out. And I walked off set without getting a word in. I felt like that big. And they said, come on next week, Roger. I was like, really want me on after that man. There's just a masculinity. I mean, and every time for two years, every time he was on set, I'd be like, get Brucker off. They'd wheel, they'd wheel Brucker off. They'd wheel him off. Like, you know, off you go, grandpa. And then two years on, they had him on. And I was like, get Brucker off. You're going to go on. Going live. Three, two, one. And I started. I was like, you know, Manchester and Brucker. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, what Brucker? What do you want, man? And Brucker goes, I used to hate soccer.

32:42I was like, I know you scarred me for several years, Tom. And he goes, and now every Christmas, I go with my son-in-laws to England to watch four or five Premier League games. And we fly coach. And I realized when we've got Tom Brucker in our football camp tomorrow night in Houston, we're doing a live show with J.J. What, you know, that child that Wisconsin, who grew up playing hockey and Grida in football. When we've got Brucker, and we've got J.J. What, and we've got Dampatric dropping names. I think we've kind of made it. Is this the moment football makes it in America? So Roger Bennett, the founder, CEO of Men in Blazers, media network, and his book released today. We are the World Cup. A personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. But you bring up an interesting point of, you're building a brand in a country, soccer, men's soccer, trying to build a brand in the same country here. And the challenges of being able to do that, it feels like you've been more successful

33:44than maybe the U.S. men's team has in building that brand. Well, yeah, it's the story of my lifetime is coming over here at 1994. The last time the men's World Cup was here, going into the World Cup, there was a study release. That's how this story in the book. When they said soccer is the 67th most popular sport in America. Track to pulling is 66. Again, everyone taking a dump on soccer. They were like doom saying, like this going to be a disaster. No one's going to go the games. I went to the game in Chicago. I didn't have any money for a ticket. Just to mill around in case no one turned up to try and look like a third cousin or wedding. Just like to make the background in the photos kind of feel a little lighter. It was mobbed. Americans love a circus. They love an excuse to daytime drink. Still the best attended World Cup ever. It will be broken. Please God, this summer. And it was meant to make America a football living nation 94 like space to Captain Kirk. The final frontier was what the U.S. was.

34:44But it didn't happen overnight. Instead, it's happened organically, authentically. Instead of soccer becoming like a yo-yo or a hula hoop like an overnight sensation of fad. The roots have really deeply beautifully. It's been the story of my life than watching young Americans are audience. You know, 18 to 24 fall in love with soccer, men's soccer, women's soccer. There's an enormous Hispanic audience in the United States. And Americans love the best. You're drawn to the best, the NFL best in the world. Sorry Canadian football league. The NBA best in the world. And the complicated thing for soccer, Dan, is that the best in the world is played in England, the Premier League. And ultimately, that's where the audience has really been captivated with the rise of streaming, the rise of cable, being able to see games live every week, follow along via the internet. That changed everything allowed young Americans to connect to these teams from Los Angeles as if they were in Liverpool. And that's what's kind of driven.

35:44The connection, what's amazing is that young Americans have now fallen in love. Young Americans like Tom Broca. I've fallen in love with the sport. What's amazing is, and it's not discussed enough. The Premier League is now owned, majority by Americans. The most, you know, over half the teams have American owners. Not just the Red Sox, Tom Werner, John Henry, running Liverpool. The Dodgers, Todd Burley and his group running Chelsea. Manchester United. The Buccaneers group, the Glazers for good or for bad and so on and so on. It's incredible. Like, you know, America. We are essentially after this World Cup going to be taking football again. It's complicated for good and for bad into the American age, which is, which is crazy. Give me the best case scenario for this United States team. Oh, Dan. I mean, football, if it's not about optimism and hope and delusion, then I don't know what it is. And I do a dream of these boys, you know, Tyler Adams.

36:46This young guy from Wappen just falls New York. He drove six hours every day for five days a week for seven years to train in New York City. I mean, the sacrifice, the dreams, the hunger. I dream for them. I really do. I mean, the bottom line is, it's crazy. Oh, women kick ass and take names. Oh, men in this nation where we put a man on the moon. We invented the Krona amongst other things. We've won one bloody knockout game in the, you know, going back to George Washington in the World Cup. That's crazy. Morocco got into the semi-final with joy and birth and audacity. We've won one knockout game in our nation's history. You're still trying to know what is the best case scenario here. What am I going to say? We're going to win it all. That's what I dream of every night. That's the best case scenario ever. I think that's it then. That could happen. I will take that bet on the, from you, Dan, if you believe that. I hope that happens once in my lifetime, Dan.

37:47That's, I don't ask for much, man. I don't ask for much. It looks sweet. What if England won? Oh, that'd be unbearable, won't they? That'd be unbearable. That'd be unbearable. What if England win? America get ready for the sight of growing men bending over. Well, I can say, firing fireworks out of cavities. You did not know it was possible to fire a firework out of. It's crazy, man. You've just asked me the equivalent of what if Charlie Brown can kick a, a field girl with Lucy holding. I mean, England loses. England self-sabotages. England creates trauma. That's what England does. England wins. Is anybody better at losing than England? Why did the Chicago White Sox just pop into my head and you caused me pain? No, no. I mean, above my head, I have a book, which is a biography of English World Cup campaign. You also had the Tracy Chapman album over your shoulder.

38:48Tracy, come on my show. You're the one guest we've never had. She was a soccer player at Tufts, three goals to assist. Just come on. Come with me. No, you know what? I have that on there. Because when my team, I support Everton. We're very bad at football. When we lose, which is often, I put Tracy Chapman fast car on. And I realize the agony I'm feeling is nothing compared to the pain that Tracy knows. In the epigraph of my book, I used a line from the Uruguayan poet Eduardo Galliano who said football is a pleasure that hurts. So England, they hurt the nation. They raised their hopes. They shattered them. The book I have above my head is called 40 Years of Shite. Am I allowed to say that on the other side? Which is just kind of captures up where they are. I support America now anyway, baby. So I honestly don't care. He's Roger Bennett, founder, CEO of Men and Blazers Media Network. And the book released today, we're 100 days out. We are the World Cup, a personal history of the world's greatest supporting event.

39:48Pleasure to talk to you again. Good luck with the book. Danny, thanks for having us. I love you. I love your team. It's a really a joy to be with you again. Thank you, bud. We'll come back. We'll get phone calls right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the IHARDS radio app search FSR to listen live. Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stock, bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one-of-a-kind index, and lets you backtest it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's.

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42:50Oh, I mean, the back row is going to lose this one. Yes, yes. I don't think it's because of me, but it might be. I would follow the back room guys. That included the big German and his brother. Oh, okay. Yeah, I should throw the, I should throw the BRGs in there. Yeah, right. Dylan might be able to figure out a way to get out of the building. I mean, there's a lot of doors here. What are the results so far? Right now, 47% of the audience would follow you. No. Then the front row, then the back row. Yeah. People are going to want to try to keep me alive at least for the next two years. Stato the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading card to the Dan Patrick show. A couple more phone calls. Andrew in Washington. Hi, Andrew. What's on your mind today? Oh, good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Well, you know, that left turn as far as blue blood, you know, programs in the NCAA tournament kind of got me going.

43:50I'm a big blue, blue devil fan. They do put blue and blue bloods. You can't have, you know, as far as top four in national championships. Top three in tournament wins. Top two in number one seed to ever. 11 championship games. 17 final fours. Doesn't matter who's coaching. It matters if you win. You know, you're talking to two coaches for a program, NC State, Ohio State. They're blue bloods. No, I don't think so. Florida Gators maybe, but they're not quite up to that upper echelon of consistency. And Duke has five double digit wins over ranked opponents this year, which is the most by any program. Since 2001 or 2002. So there's my argument. Stay in your lane. Don't argue about. No, all right. All right. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you. Yeah, I just want sustainability. That's all. I don't think you need to have another coach to come in and win a title. And then you become a blue blood, you know, Tubby Smith winning another title for Kentucky. Doesn't change my opinion of Kentucky.

44:50They're a blue blood. Absolutely. Louisville basketball. They had two different coaches. Great run. Not as of late, but you know, when Danny Crumb was there. Man, when, you know, they had Darrell Griffith, Dr. Duncan Stein. Golly, were they a fun team? When Louisville played Houston, was that the semi finals? Yep. Oh, my goodness. That was just up and down. They were doing things that, you know, maybe a tenth of a per one percent of people in the United States playing basketball could do. Maybe even less than that. Yes, Paul. That was the semifinal Houston won 94 81 in Albuquerque. I keep the dreams on the team. Clyde Drexler is on the team. I mean, there's some star power. But because of the result of that game, nobody thought NC State could beat Houston.

45:52Because, and back then, they didn't have a shot clock. And Jim Valvano outsmarted Guy Lewis. He outsmarted because he was like, we're going to take the air out of this. We're going to make every possession matter to you. And every time you get the ball, you know you better score. You better make your free throws. And Valvano won a national championship. Yes, Paul. Houston came out of the tunnel sporting five slamma jamma warm up shirts. Is the first time they've ever worn them. They dunked 14 times in the game as a team. Yeah. It was something to see. It was, that was, that was. I've seen a lot. But that's one of those games where you go. This is being played at a different altitude. And it was because it was literally at a different altitude. Yeah, Seaton. Is there a portion of the population that reacted negatively to that many dunks? I don't remember that. It feels like that's one of those moments where it's like, this isn't basketball.

46:54That's not pain. Well, okay, maybe a few grew up in the fifties. Well, I mean, that would have been the generational split, right? Yeah, babe. That's not the game I grew up watching. What are these guys doing jumping? Yeah, fundamental. They don't just place it in there. You shoot it. Yes. They're dribbling behind their back. What are they doing? Yeah. It's not the game. Who told the announcers to sound like that back then? Does all the announcers sound like that? Was it Hollywood? I'll have half a pound of ham and some cheddar cheese. Hey, that how you order your... I recognize that voice. You're the voice of the New York football giant. No problem. I said, we've got that coming up right before you. I think it was Hollywood that created that. Was it the newsreels member you go to a movie theater? Yes. And they would do the... And the Titanic's on this day. I found a lot of those and they have that tone. It was just...

47:54They're like doing like war updates and stuff. Yeah. Go get them boys. What? Go get them. This is how we find out. Like, what's happening in the world? You go to the movies? I know. Going to watch a picture show. Let's get an update on the front lines of Germany. Go get them boys. What? That's it. Go get it. They started the 1910s newsreels during movies. And they were big in the 30s and 40s. Yeah. Are we one? Yeah. Are we in for the right white and blue? Yeah. Yes. Don't mess with us. Final hour on the way. Reggie Allowish's Miller Jr. The third will stop by. More phone calls as well. Fritzy, Seaton, Marr, Paula Ears, truly in the backroom, guys. This is Chelsea, handler from Dear Chelsea. After the big game like most people, I kept thinking about the commercials. And there was one that stayed with me. It was from the Blue Square Alliance against hate. And it wasn't loud or flashy. It showed a Jewish kid being targeted at school

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