Hour 2: I Love You

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1:02That's what it's about. Does that make you happy when you hear that? Of course. Is that her in that voice-tricked part? There's a rap. You were just doing it, too. Is that her voice just with a thing that- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's L. L. Cool J. I do not know. I had to ask because I was listening while watching and thinking, that's okay. Anyway, good morning. Thanks for being here with us. What do we have going on? Tomorrow is the first day of spring. Spring break is on all around the country and staggered. So it seems to be a month long event. Let's see here. And the heat wave continues and we now turn our attention to Mason with trash. Yes, but this is just a reminder that you can watch video clips from the Sarah and Vinnie morning show on our YouTube channel. You can just go to youtube.com backslash or is that foreign slash? Whatever, one of the slashes. That's reading to Alice, 973. And remember to smash that subscribe button.

2:05And of course, the Sarah and Vinnie show is presented by San Francisco Bay Coffee. So I told you that there is a big celebrity that is being accused of being bratty in Hollywood circles. Do you want to guess who this might be? She's itty bitty and she sings. Oh, it's our end of the grand day. Look at you. What? She's bratty? What? It doesn't surprise you. But she's a child star all grown up. What? Aren't they the most well-adjusted people on the planet? Good call. Good call. You're right. She is facing accusations of bratty behavior in Hollywood with insiders claiming she's become so powerful that studio executives are terrified to challenge her. I mean, isn't that the goal? Yeah. Terrify men? I mean, that's my goal. OK. A little fear is healthy, I think. I think that there's an album. I just told you guys, I was playing her music for my kid because she seemed to be grumpy for no reason. And so I put on problems. I was dancing in the car as I drove her home and then ended up putting on another one of her hits. They're great. The songs are super fun, super danceable.

3:07It's the one with Zed. I can't remember the name of it, but. She has a song with Zed? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know what off the top of my head. It's a huge hit, too. When you hear it, you'll go, oh, this is a huge hit. Anyway, she's got great songs. She was good and wicked. But I don't find her likable at all. And so I'm not so free. That is about you're right. That's my favorite one by her. Oh, you weren't here that day. It was I had gotten home and I was playing it at full blast trying to get my kid to pick it up a little. And as I pulled up, the neighbor kids, including my daughter, came running from the next door and just started jumping up and down because it's one of those songs. It's an absolute jam. Anyway, I think she's good, but I also would not want to hang with her. After seeing her, if I think that you're funny and after seeing her on SNL, I think she's got a good sense of humor. So I automatically like anyone who's got a good sense of humor and her impressions are so good. She does really good appearances. I've only seen the clips

4:08because I never stabbed till 11, even on weekends. But she does the late night shows and is great with Isab Allen, where she does the impressions. She is once in a generation talent and she has worked so hard to get where she is and she's been through some crap. I mean, she has a serious trauma, yes. So I mean, I think that deserves her a little bratiness. No, my only issue with her is her rumored behavior to steal men. Oh, well, that is definitely a pattern she has. Well, okay, maybe that's a much a rumor. I was trying to be polite. No, she definitely is a man's stealer. I mean, I get the argument that you can't steal a man. However, it's two sides. It's never just the dude. I think a woman is equally accountable. You know what? If Ariana Grande moved to San Francisco and had her eyes set on Susan, I wouldn't blame him for leaving me for her. That is such a cool experience to date her. For the plot, you know?

5:09Like, heck yeah, go for it. My ex left me for Ariana Grande. Can you imagine? You're about to be married to this man. Yeah, but like, well, they're talking to Lassie and break up and he'll come back and maybe I've had some fun experiences of my own. Maybe she wouldn't leave him at the airport. Okay, Bob is a once in a lifetime personality. I swear, I don't, I know you don't own him. I get that, but the idea that you would, like, I feel the same way. Which, if my partner for, you know, I'm married, and if she says, I really got my eye on this guy, I would say, you need to go pursue that. But we're done. My point is that I don't blame these men for blowing up their lives to have, you know, their weekend with Ariana Grande. You don't. No, I get it. And so you think the lady who'd just had a baby with this man who goes on, I think it was twins, wasn't it? I don't know if it was twins, but she just had a baby.

6:09What is his name, Ethan? Ethan SpongeBob. That's how we refer to him on the internet. That guy left his pregnant partner or wife. I don't know if you're married. Do we think that hot women are hitting on this man? Left and right? No, I don't. Ethan Slater. Ethan Slater, the guy in Wicked who plays Bunk. Whatever it is, he is a Bunk. What is his name? I don't know. I actually never saw a Wicked. You didn't? No. I feel like that's right up your alley. Yeah. I would think you saw that. I didn't see the second one. The first one was really good. The second one disappointed. I decided to wait and do a double feature. And then I'm like, oh, wait, seven hours of Wicked. I don't know if I'm ready for that. It disappoints in the end, in my opinion. It's Bach, which you're pretty close. I swear I say Bunk, whatever. I love his fifth concerto. It's a weird looking dude. I'm not saying he's the most noble, honorable stand up man ever. I'm just saying, I don't blame him. You have to stay together forever.

7:09If you ruin, blow up your relationship, your marriage, with a pregnant woman, I'm sorry. You got to stay with whoever you cheated on with her. I have a third of her. I do think we see these kinds of things. And we saw it recently with Sydney Swini. She was engaged to be married as her career was catching fire. Mm-hmm. And so she called it off and has since been dating. And I think she's with Scooter Braun and he's got a plane. And like the life she's leading does seem to be one of great adventure and great opportunity. And maybe that is the, you look at your life and you go, do I go lead a quiet family person life? Or do I see what this, what's behind this other door? I can see why people choose the excitement life of adventure. I can see it. You want a big life and that's gonna include some mistakes. Now if Susan wanted to leave me for Scooter Braun, I'd have a problem with that. Forget that guy.

8:09White Lotus is doubling down on NEPO babies for season four. They just came out with the most recent cast. Do you guys watch? I haven't seen everyone else have. Oh, it's so good. Oh, yeah, it's such a great show. The latest season's got Chloe Bennett. She looks mildly familiar. Max Greenfield, Field, Germain Hall, Kumall, Nanji, Nanjiani. Nanjiani. Nanjiani. I knew I'd put her in. Which one's her NEPO babies? It's Julia Louis Dreyfus's son. Oh. And then you got Schwarzenegger's son already on the show. You know, what's her son's name though? His name is, where is it? Julio, Louis Dreyfus. Yeah, that's right. We'll go with that one. It's not saying his name for some reason. She's got two sons that are apparently actors. Why wouldn't they be? I'm right. And also, it makes us care more. It's a good, NEPO babies are good for Hollywood.

9:11I think it's bad. So when I see some of, like, I didn't know that Ethan Hawks' daughter, Maya Hawks. Yeah, I didn't realize. And I go, oh, my thumb is right. And I go, oh, they look exactly like them. I make sense. Oh, so it's Charlie Hall and Henry Hall. And I recognize Charlie. He was on Veepe, which is with her show. So he was on that for a while. Oh, that's her kid. Yeah, okay. She is also someone from like a, money, right? Yeah, big money, like a billionaire, which is, we see this happen. The maras are also actresses who come from a fortune. And I kind of think it makes sense to pursue acting and do tryouts and be waiting tables. Any profession, any profession, it's about who, you know, radio, who, you know, retail. If you can get a leg up in any fashion, you do it. Well, but in this case, what I was trying to get at is they don't have, they have the money. Right. They don't, they can pursue acting without starving to death.

10:13They don't have that problem that a lot of others do. And Charlie is the one who will be on white lotus. So, okay. He's done some acting. He's, it's, you, nepotism might get you your first job, but it's not going to get you your whole career if you suck, right? Right. And a woman from the Coldplay kiss cam is speaking out against what if Paltrow? Now, I'm, I'm, I understand this and I am guilty of what she is complaining about, but she is upset with Gwyneth Paltrow's mock ad and just the, the broader publicity that she received being incredibly harmful, saying that she was on Oprah's podcast recently yesterday. And she said, I just don't think people really stop and think about the fact that there's real humans behind this and it is incredibly destructive. This is the lady who is on the Coldplay kiss cam that was having, not having the affair apparently, but also having the affair. Everyone thought she was having an affair. Well, the way they reacted is why we brought that. Right. So, that is on them. She was on Oprah's podcast.

11:14Yeah. So, she's talking to Oprah. Uh-huh. Well, she was even seen in a bikini and that was covered. I was like, okay, we have graduated into a new level of, of fame for people that you can have an affair, be blasted, be made memes. And then months later, she's still getting coverage. I mean, look at the Hock Toey girl. I mean, she, she, she, she got a huge podcast contract, but and it was awful at it and it didn't last long. But good for her. Yeah. Get that bag. Well, she had people grab her and monetize her immediately, right? Absolutely. Media and psychology experts say that it is not uncommon to obsess over other people's cringy moments and mistakes because it makes us feel better about ourselves. Yeah. That sounds about right. You know, that's one of those curiosities when that video showed and the way they reacted, you couldn't help but watch it 10 times because you're going, that's a grown man diving under a desk. Like, what the hell, dude?

12:15And nobody knew anything about them. So all of a sudden, and then I, I'll admit the way he said to the stadium, well, they're either shy or having an affair, that kind of. He leaned right into that. I don't know what to say about him though. And she's most upset, I guess, with Gwyneth Paltrow because she says that Gwyneth, whose company is founded on or framed around uplifting women and women's well-being. She doesn't need the money. She said, I don't know why she felt she needed to throw gas on the fire and get involved in all this, it just felt really hypocritical to me and unnecessary. In every part of media, I'm talking about sports like on ESPN, they threw back to the, to the hosts and they were doing the, the hug like it's, it was mocked and, and mimicked everywhere cartoons, everything. She's picking out Gwyneth. Okay. I get it. She, she's talking about her being a, you know, a woman's rights person and women's

13:16life. And at this point, though, too, you're the one that's keeping it going. I get you want to speak your piece, but you're also people probably would have forgotten ago if you just spayed it into the sunset. Taylor Frankie Paul's ex is breaking his silence on the domestic assault claims after the secret lives of woman wives filming has been halted. Okay. I absolutely had to like go on my head. Who Taylor Frankie? Okay. We talked about that at length yesterday because there were like eight stories that can't pop it on. She's big right now. Got it. Um, he, she also, she was on, uh, entertainment or what was she on yesterday, a couple of different shows. Good morning, America. Yeah. And she kind of skirted around the issue, not really talking about it. Um, but he's been talking about that this has been happening for quite some time. And so he knew that there was a possibility that it could all come out and he was not going to be the one to proactively do that, but now he's not shying away from discussing how it was an issue. I guess they now have a, uh, they're not seeing each other.

14:18They're not talking to each other. They have a no contact in place. This is a baby daddy. Yes. Which is the healthiest thing for them. They should have gotten that years ago. She was also on Kelly and Mark and they had a technical difficulty when she was answering a question about the domestic violence, uh, allegations and then it like technical thing and then went right into an ex question. So that everybody was like, uh, that's, I, who, they're saying it was, it was a normal thing. It happened. They're claiming, no, no, it wasn't on purpose, but was it live? No. No, no, they prerecord that. So they, maybe her team asked them to cut it out and they're like, sure, we'll cut it out, but we'll make it obvious that we're cutting it out because they could have just cut out the question too. Yeah. If they were cutting it out, weird. One thing I want to add about this Dakota thing though is there is a clip surfacing from about nine months ago when Macy and Layla, who are both secret lives of Mormon wives, were on Nick Vial's podcast and they were talking about how Taylor Frankie Paul was supposed

15:21to be on that podcast that day. And of course, anytime, anything good is going to happen to Taylor, uh, Dakota sabotages it. Oh, so that's so there's suspicion around this, there's a motive these, these allegations coming out one week before her season of the bachelor is supposed to premiere. People are saying, oh, maybe this is part of that pattern. Just want to throw that out there. If you're just joining us, Mason is in for Sarah, who's on vacation. She's doing trash. I'm speaking of new trash shows to get interested in. I actually sent Bob a couple of clips from this one. Have you guys heard about the new Netflix reality dating show called Age of Attraction? No. So it premiered on March 11th and it features 40 contestants aged 22 to 60. Oh, I did see this. I've heard about it. I saw the, the, the, the promo for it and it's creepy because yeah, go ahead, but it's very creepy. They're exploring romantic connections without knowing each other's ages and they seem

16:25to think that this is scandalous, but here's the issue. They all kind of look their age. This is not so this girl's like, oh my, they're breaking it to them. I saw the clips and she's like, I'm 22 years old now. It would have been like, yes, I'm not surprised. You seem 22 years old and this man seems 38. Yes. You guys are acting like this is ground breaking. He was an older woman who was with a younger man who's the same age as her son. I saw that in the clips and, and, and she's dig in the guy and like, they're all attracted. Realizes that he's way too young for it, but she's kind of like, yeah, whatever. I think you can see what they look like. So it's not like they're, they're doing love is blind and they're older and you find out, oh, she's 60. This is on Netflix. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. And so it's a hit. It's not debatable. They're trying to make it a hit. I mean, they're, they're grasping its straws, but they're trying to make this scandalous and it's, it's not really. They're trying something. They're trying.

17:25I'm not in to dating shows. I know there's a lot of them and, and my wife watches love is blind as I think one of them and, and has like 80 of them recorded, like just got the thing and, but she watches those when she's doing random. I do too. Yeah. Those, those are background laundry. There you go. Uh, in other trash reality television shows, the real housewives of Miami has been put on pause by Bravo following its seventh season, not technically canceled, but low ratings and potential cast changes looks like it's the second time that the show has been halted and looks like, yeah, might not be happening. Do you like that one? And not really. You like that? I haven't seen it. Huh. But the, the real housewives of Salt Lake City that are in town right now, I've been seeing a lot more clips of people catching them out and about and people I didn't realize they got this reaction when out and about people are treating them like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Oh my God, baby gorgeous. And how they're look over here. And I was like, really? It's the, the new celebrity thing is, is these people are accessible and you can find

18:31them among the, the people you're not going to find Brad Pitt walking around is too smart for that. He's not going to be accessible. So I think that's cool. We love our celebrities, don't we? I love you. I've never, thank you. That's very nice. It was. You and Sarah are pretty big celebrities. I don't know about that. I, the first event that I went to and people were, I was, I was amazed at just how beloved you got. I mean, you guys are an institution. We've been around a minute. Yeah. People were clamoring just to touch your elbow. I don't know about that. 800, 400, 3, 6, 9, thank you, though, Mason. Great. Great trash report. You're welcome. 800, 400, 3, 6, 9, 7 is the number you can text us at. You got any, Maddie? I got a couple here from 415. I saw the Oprah podcast. Gwyneth was just a small part of the discussion. Watch the podcast. You will feel very differently. Oh, okay. Oh, about this lady. Yeah. Okay.

19:31Well, she isn't accomplished woman in her own right in the business world. She was like a head of HR for a huge company. Yeah. And then one more from 650 Bob, I think every relationship should have a hall pass. My wife and I have a hall pass. And by some miracle, if I was running to those famous person, I get a freebie. I had that in my marriage. We had five. We had five people we were allowed. Oh, my. If we met. Do you tell which, which five? I remember hers more than I remember mine. Oh, we're hers. Let's see here. I think Ryan Gosling was one. The, I'm totally spacing on names, but you brought it up. Yeah. If you mind with some a Hayek and, and a few of our, yes, okay. I'm with both of those who, yeah, who would yours be even? I don't really have one. I don't really think like that. I don't think that I would, I, there was one, we were doing the show here in San Francisco. And there was a celebrity that was kind of hinting at hanging out with me, but I had a girlfriend at the time. And I was like, that's not happening.

20:32It was a hit. It doesn't matter. Sarah's definitely said who it was before I just forgot. That was fun. It was funny, but it wasn't. I'm not blowing up my life for a minute, for a passing minute. I'll let Ariana Grande know you're not interested. I'm not interested coming up and it, by the way, again, Sarah's out this week. We are live though and coming up in the news. Where is this one? Here it is. A patient refuses to leave the hospital, fully squatting in the hospital bedroom after these. Welcome to Radio Rental. This is the scariest stories you've ever heard in your life, all told by real people. And off we go. This wasn't a human being there, I saw. There's something here in this house, something out of this world. There was a woman moving through the hall. I stepped back and I was completely alone.

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22:35Sarah's out. Mason is in and we're going to do some news for you. The Sarah and Vinnie show is powered by San Francisco Bay coffee. The weather will continue to be scorching. So it's hot everywhere. You're not alone. It's ice coffee weather. Yeah. Yeah. Delicious. I went and saw the sea lions yesterday and they had the right idea. Just sunning themselves and then getting to the water. Diving in and out. And I was like, must be nice. Don't have a job. I got it. Well, you know, you use your hours wisely. You can jump in. Their job is to look cute at the pier and then make the tours happy. Jumping on over each other too. And they were like, oh, get off me. It was amusing. They do seem to kind of dog pile. Tomorrow is the first day of spring. And March Madness begins at 9.15 this morning. Actually, a couple minutes before that, you'll have a chance to win outside lands three day passes here on Alice. So be listening on your Odyssey app.

23:35Is that the out? No, that's not the Odyssey app one. No, no, no. That's the Bruno Mars on. This is take it to take it to RadioAllys.com. The code word at 9 o'clock. And you will be entered to win the tickets that are sold out. So three day passes to outside lands at 905. March Madness begins at 9.15 news begins now. And it's brought to you by jumpstart MD start your weight loss journey with jumpstart MD mentioned radio to get started for only $20.26 call 855 jumpstart or visit jumpstartmd.com. This I don't know why this gets to me. It's the whole squatting thing bothers me because I see people. I understand there are slum lords and that's a reality. And they take advantage of people and it's terrible. But when you see someone who's decided not to pay rent and stay in the apartment and no one can do anything, it just it aggravates me greatly.

24:36Here's a new twist on that one. A patient refuses to leave the hospital months after formal discharge. So there's now a lawsuit trying to get this person removed. Tallahassee Memorial Healthcare is suing a patient. It claims won't leave in a complaint filed earlier this month. They say the patient was admitted to the hospital for medical treatment but was later determined to no longer need any kind of hospital services. The formal discharge was ordered on October 6th according to the complaint. And this patient has remained at the hospital and continues to occupy the room as of the filing on March 2nd months. How do they eat though? I mean, can't they just lock the door and call a door to ask everything? Oh, maybe according to. I'm so good idea. My, I don't know. I mean, I think if they charge this person for their stay, it will really backfire on them.

25:36It will be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah, but there are ways that people would, I mean, there are people who would say, I don't have any money. So what are you going to do? Tough break. What are you going to do? I got no dough. Do you get arrested if you don't pay your medical bills? I feel like no. It just hurts your credit. Yeah, but yeah, if you're someone who's just got no dough and no plans on ever having any. And this is your move. When was credit even created? I mean, that's just a weird thing that just was made up one day. Somebody. I'm not, I'm not 100 was impositive on this. But there was a period of time where I had a lot of bills and I had to walk them all, like pick out which bills to pay and which ones not to pay. And I was told medical bills should always be put last because they either don't report in the credit or it takes them a long time to do that. Oh, the FICO, the standard FICO score was introduced in 89. See, credit cards, like the regular old credit card was invented in 1950. Yeah.

26:36And I believe loans are all the way back. Right. Barrowing and loans. Oh, that goes back to. A thousand years. A thousand years. Right. The beginning of time. I think that's who came up with the, the scores was the, the loan institutions trying to come up with a criteria of how to give you a loan payment. I could be making that up. But I think that's true. They continue to try and get this person out of the hospital who is just squatting in a room. They need for other patients. So I'll follow up on this as we get more info. But I thought that is just. It sounds like a storyline from the pit. That's so something that would happen there. Yeah. Are you watching that? Yeah, I just sort of season two last night. You haven't. Oh, I'm done. I've watched all. I'm, that is a show I never, I, whenever it comes out, I've watched a new episode that day. I've rewatched the first season. I know someone on that show. Kind of sort of. Which one? The internet friend. His name's Manny. He plays like an orderly. He's been in a bunch of different stuff. I'm like, I was all right out of you, internet friends. Oh, yeah.

27:36It's cool seeing him like any. It's a best show on TV. It's quite, I mean, how can you not? If you watched ER in the beginning with Noel Wiley, it's the same show. All the shows of all the shows you're watching, you're saying the pit is the best show on TV. I don't know about that, but I like it. Yeah, it's awesome. And you like it too. Oh, yeah. It's stressful though. I just got to episode two of Survivor last night. Just like I got home from this showcase that my kids were doing. I had to announce. Wait a minute. So you were out past your bedtime. And then you came home and watched TV. I have to catch up on Survivor. I'm like, and I was telling this to Bob, like the weekend. Last weekend, I'm going into the weekend and the misses goes. I'm going to be partying with my friends. So I'll see you later. And I was like, great. And then Saturday morning, she says, everyone left. You want to come hang out? And I was just like, wait, what happened to my? I thought I was bachelor weekend. It's just family. It's just changing times. Things come up.

28:36You go, okay, the showcase yesterday. I'm on it. I got to get to this stuff. I'm assuming you and your wife don't go, don't watch this without me. No, you never watch anything. No, that is, that is a Sarah thing for sure. Definitely not me. Anyway, I'm catching up on through. It's so good, you guys. Survivor is great. It's really good. Do they have multiple episodes a week like Big Brother does? Okay. But I'm going to get into it. Can I just pick it up this last season? I get to practice. I'm a big season because there's a lot of good players. So it's really good. It's so fun. And in your defense, episode one was three hours long. Yeah. I'm hoping you don't have ads. Yes, I was able to, you know, fast forward through that. Okay. So anyway, do you know what a flamper is? It's this story I like because when I brought up something that I had witnessed in my own home after moving in with a lady, it was one of the bigger things we've talked about on the radio and continues to be brought up to me years later. It's the chair in the bedroom that became the place where all my wife's clothes go.

29:41And it's the dirty clothes. It's the clothes she tried on that she's not going to wear out. And it's the clothes that she tried on didn't love for whatever reason that also lands on the chair. The chair. Everyone has the chair. Everyone does. Everyone does. Every woman has the chair. You need it because clothes aren't, I don't wash my clothes after wearing them one time. But maybe they're not clean enough to go back into the closet. Isn't that so funny that I'm having this moment as a man living with a woman and just watching this thing happen in the corner of my room, my bedroom, our bedroom. And as I brought it up, every woman said, yeah, what what are you talking about? The chair. Here it is. Do you know what a flamper is? It's a floor hamper. It's not the chair, but it's the place where people put their clothes after a long day. They're not really dirty. You might even wake and put them right back on.

30:43They call that the floor hamper or the flamper. They go on to say, does that mean the chair is the chamber? I don't know about naming it, but one thing I did get sent to me and this is why I was saying it continues to come up. I was sent this new chair where the arms are on a rotating circle and they're their clothes hangers. Oh. So the whole from that front, how do I explain this from the, so you sit in the chair and where your arms rest would be, those are clothes hangers and it goes all the way around the back of the chair so you can hang stuff over the chair before getting to the, the piling on where the seat should be a chair designed for the bedroom. The ladies laundry. Wow. That's innovation we need, forget AI. Would you want it though, if someone gave it to you, would you go, I don't want to go pro.

31:43Well, is it cute? That's the problem. I don't know. My mom makes fun of me because I really like decorating and I like everything to be cute and yet I'm also messy at times. And so it kind of negates the cute furniture when everything looks like a tornado. Has clothing hanging over it. Right. Yeah, you really need the chair to be bouclay so that even when it has your clothes on it, it's still in it. It's cute. Right. I'm sorry, bouclay. It's a type of fabric. It's that kind of texture, fuzzy, not quite fuzzy, but kind of like a dog, like a little poodle. What? You know it. You get it. She goes, you know it and gives me a wave. It's a very popular fabric these days for chairs on Amazon or benches. The chair really brings out my feminine style. Yeah, clearly. Anyway, so the, the flamper is, they're now, they've come up with a name. Looking for something smart, soulful, and full of hearts?

32:45I'm Jen Hatmaker, host of For the Love. The podcast where we talk about what really matters. Love and family, faith and purpose. Every week I'm joined by incredible guests for honest conversations that invite all of us to live with more intention, more laughter, and more connection. Join us on For the Love wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, speaking of names. So this is one of the things about Gen Z. I love is that, you know, they were like anti-titles so then they came up with 17 titles so that, you know, you can really specifically call yourself paying. I'm paying. All right. I mean, whatever. I've got all these different names now instead of where there was a pansexual. You don't know. Oh, sorry. Come on. You said titles. I thought you were talking. Mr. No, no, no, no.

33:45I mean, just I love these different labels. They're like anti-label, but in the process of being anti-label came up with 200 more ones. Right, right. All right. Gen Z thinks capital letters are just too intense. This is the latest out of my, what I love Gen Z. This is so fun. They developed all kinds of weird stuff, including work, minimalism. You know that one? No. Is that when you do the minimum? You don't do work. Yeah. You're anti-work. I have heard they're into that. And they're getting fired at alarming rate. Yes. What is socializing? Soft socializing. So were you run like errands with your friends or that's a great date, by the way. Let's go to target. Well, we actually saw a story about two people who dated at Target. I think Sarah did it. And it was one of those where it's a new thing like people hang out now. They do admin days. So hey, do you want to come over and make phone calls to Dennis and our insurance together?

34:46I'm into it. So the capitalization thing is something you've seen. I teach college and I teach a lot of freshman software classes. And I will say every semester, at least five students start to semester off writing everything without capital letters. And I have to write them and say, you are in college, college. You're a university. You capitalize your stuff. And it's just amazing. And I got to say, the students are getting worse. Many engineers claim that using periods and texts is aggressive. And this is the generation that now has decided capital letters are too much. No. They are too much. And you actually have to, I've said, I've said this to Sarah because she doesn't capitalize. But auto correct will fix anything that's, so you're actually going back and undoing whatever's been fixed. I don't know. For somebody who is a grammar crazy person like she is to not capitalize just makes me, makes me crazy.

35:46If you've ever texted with a Gen Z or you may notice they for go capital letters and again, you would have to go back and undo the ones that auto, or turn your auto quick job. I guess is what you do. Or your phone does get used to how you like to do things, right? Question though, because I don't feel like I'm old enough to be feeling this way. But I, I feel like Gen Z is next level obnoxious. No. And that, that's the thing that you're following, following right into a true, yes, because I feel like that kind of thing doesn't happen until you're older. Maybe I'm ahead of the curve, but I just feel like they're trying to change so many things that have been established. And I think some of it is good. A lot of change that needed to be done, but I think some of this is excessive. And it's a part of the issue why some people have gone so far in the opposite direction. There should be a happy medium. And I think Gen Z really has a hard time in the middle. My mom warned me about this when I was just a young, just a young kid, maybe nine or

36:4810 years old. She said, people, Janet, Janet, Janet, people will always say the young, generation are doing things wrong and that they're the more extreme and that we weren't that bad. Yada, yada, yada. And it is so proved to be right. It's a thousand percent. I think. Janet, Janet, you're completely correct. And some things are better, but there are some things that are just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. And that's youth. It's supposed to be like that when I listen to punk rock and, and skateboarded all day every day. That was my thing. And my dad would, my mom and dad would hear my music and go. That's not music. And it would drive him crazy. And now I hear YouTube from my TV or whatever my kids are watching. And I think that's not TV. That's some dudes hanging out. That's not what they love it. Now I get that. But like bringing your parent to a job interview, okay, I don't get that, you know, but that's

37:49not really a thing. It's happened enough that it's discussed. Your Gen Zier that you're communicating with is, is writing you without capitals. They're doing that on purpose. And they just believe that this is the, and they also say older people use capitals. That's for them. So okay. Now you know, eight hundred four hundred three, six, nine, seven is our text number and Maddie's on the show. We got a lot of text about the close thing and different, they have people with different ideas for what you call it. 707 close that aren't clean or dirty or clirty. Yeah. That's clever. I swear to you, when I came in truly just having observed something with someone I'm living with and mentioned it into a microphone, it caught fire. Like it was crazy and everyone was saying, how do you not know this? Well, because I, I've only lived with this lady, really. That's how I know. What do you do with your pants after you wear them? It depends. If they're, if it's denim and I'm not going to wash them, I put them back on a hanger

38:51and put them back in my closet. You would. What? I keep my jeans on the floor because I wear them every day like until they're ready to not be worn anymore. The one pair. Yeah. I wear that for you. I wore these yesterday. Yeah. And the day before. Yep. Okay. I mean, they do say that you're supposed to go like 20 some washes. That's what like the official leave us. denim is supposed to be just worn. 408. I have a lumper. It's a piece of luggage in my closet that I piled clothes on. Colleen and sack. Listening. Oh. A lumper. A lumper. Synthene. It's synonymous. I have a floor drob. Yeah. That's some clever listeners. 707. Halfway close. Go on the chair. Not clean enough to go back on the hanger, but not yet ready for the hammer. Right. 800, 400, 3697. You can text us all morning and Sarah's out. If you haven't noticed, Mason is in and she's going to do trash next. What's coming up? I've got a hot new couple of alerts after me. All right. Wake up. Wake up. They're great. They're awesome every morning.

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