Hour 2 – Deeper Dives, Jim “Bones” Mackay

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3:00We'll check in with Phil Mickelson's former caddy, Bones McCoy. Now, join us, we'll talk about, is Tiger going to go to Augusta, and is he going to try to play? We also had a report from TMZ about 15 minutes ago that police found hydrocodone pills, treated for chronic arthritis and pain, found that in Tiger's pocket at the time of his arrest when he overturned his SUV. We don't know any other information, it's been pretty tight-lipped in Tiger's circles, as it normally is, but I'm curious if he will be going to Augusta next week. He does have a golf project that he is heading up his design company, and he's also expected to be, or a hope he'll be, at the Champions dinner, as well. 8773DP Show, email address, dpatdampatric.com, Twitter handle at dpshow. Good morning if you're watching on peacock. Thank you for downloading the app.

4:01We say good morning to our radio affiliates as well. A lot of conversation, not only about Tiger in the first hour, but also the Danny Hurley moment after the Braille and Mullins shot with 410s of a second to go. I want to thank the Yukon Basketball Sports Information Office, because I wanted to know, has anybody talked to Dan Hurley about this? Can he give context to his relationship with Roger Ares, who is the official there, veteran official? And what was the conversation? What were the words exchanged? And I'll read what I got from the Sports Information Office. I don't know if he said anything publicly. He meets with the locals this afternoon. I'm sure that that will come up. I think what Roger Ares told Seth Greenberg tracks with coach's perspective. I can confirm that he was telling Coach Hurley that he was looking at the clock,

5:01and it was extremely loud in there. But yeah, I'm just curious about it because it feels like Dan Hurley, who was he ejected or got a technical? He made contact with an official, I believe, earlier this year, and got teed up for that. Marvin, does that sound right? That tracks. Okay. And I think there were a lot of people who were saying, oh, is he getting away with something? I don't know why in that moment you would try to intimidate or say the thing to an official. You just had one of the greatest moments of your coaching career, one of the greatest moments in March Madness history. And I don't know why at that moment there would be any kind of confrontation. Does feel like the official Roger Ares was going to the scores table because he wanted to see you got to make sure you set or reset the clock. And I think that's what he was doing. And maybe said to Hurley, I'm going to check the clock. Hurley may have said something back to him. But, you know, I just heard from a college basketball source who said,

6:03let me get this right, because I did not think of this. I would expect it's possible the basketball committee discussed the matter during its officiating selection call yesterday, and may have opted to keep Roger Ares out of the final four to avoid any distraction or question regarding this assignment. In fairness, it also wouldn't be unusual for the official to contact the committee and request to be removed from consideration, so as not to be a distraction. All right, so that's from my college basketball source who also said, Ares worked three Yukon games each of the last two seasons and officiated Yukon's championship game in 2023. He also worked 114 games this season, seventh most in men's basketball. He's worked six national semifinal games, one national championship game.

7:03All right, so just some background there on the official who was involved in this, Roger Ares and Dan Hurley. See, update the poll results from our one if you can, please. Yeah, we got two of them up there. How present will Tiger Woods be at the Masters this year? Your options are he'll play there for some events or won't be there at all. Okay. Won't be there at all currently has 74% of that vote, about 10% of the audience think he'll play. We also have up there Dan Hurley and the ref, big deal, not a big deal. We might play big deal, not a big deal today. Okay, really short. Not a big deal currently has 63% of that. Okay. A lot of people have an opinion on it. You may not think it's a big deal, but it's a deal. I think it's odd. I think we can all agree. It's odd in that moment to have that kind of, I can't even, I've got to come up with the word.

8:04It's not an altercation. Is it an engagement, an incident, a moment of a run in? I have no idea how to describe that. It's not a headbutt because the headline writers are going crazy with the headbutt from Dan Hurley with the official. Yeah, Paulie. Dan Hurley was ejected from a March 7th game at Marquette for making contact with official John Gaffney. Okay. All right. Some phone calls here. Do you have a poll question for hour two, Satan? We're going to go in. Yeah, we're going to keep those up there. Okay. All right. It sounds good. Fred in South Carolina. Good morning, Fred. What's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan and Danette. It's got a couple of things. I think the I team needs to get on this with Marley Matlin because I've looked at that video. I don't see his lips moving at all. I mean, look at it and watch his lips. So I think it's just a macho thing of, hey, wasn't that great or whatever. But I think you're right. Maybe that referee should recluse himself and say, let's not even continue this topic.

9:09Another topic for you. Many times we can do some more research on this. But think of all the men's and women's teams in the 1816 elite eight. I mean, we've got Yukon, men and women. We've got Dupman. When men and women in Texas, UCLA, just a lot of good basketball out there. I'll leave that I team thing and you got guys talking to Marley and wait for your results. Have a good day. All right. All right. Marley Matlin. So you have famous actress. Did she win an Academy Award? I think she got nom. I think she won. I think she won an Academy Award. Yes, Paulie. Best actress 1986. Children of a lesser got. Okay. Yeah. Back to you. Marley Matlin. Thank you. Luckily I had her bio up. I didn't think we were going to talk about Marley Matlin today. Not my notes. But I'm glad that you had that ready, Paulie. Thank you. That sounds like a fake name of a movie, by the way. There was a movie and in the movie, there was an award show.

10:09And the award goes to Children of a lesser God. It doesn't even sound real. Matt in North Carolina. Good morning, Matt. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, boys. Steven. I had a quick question while Roger airs or a statement. I had the fortunate pleasure of being court side for a few of his games. And he really interacts great with the fans, kids. I think his brain might have court circuit in along with Hurley with that shot because it probably was one of the greatest pieces he's ever seen. And as being a little league umpire, I got a stick with him for baseball that we'd lose have to stick together. So I think it's much about nothing because everyone who saw that shot was in stunned amazement. And I think Hurley's brain just completely went haywire. Yeah, it's almost like an out of body experience that he was having there. But thank you for the phone call, Matt.

11:09Red in Georgia. Hi, Red. What's on your mind today? Quickly, Dan. On Dan, Hurley, man. Whatever Dan do, whatever y'all take from it. Enjoy it. Cause he great for college basketball. Hey, Dan. Put this Luca, Dan, man. You got to play like Luca. His office is his deepest. I don't want Luca to get top playing deep. And take a break. Hey, I want you to score, Luca. I'm going to put you on the worst score on playing on the team. You go on him. If you run passion, I want the other players to just step up it and take his flag. That's what you do as a team for Luca. Hey, Red. It's a fair point. I've said this before that you still have to guard me and odds are I'm going to be out scoring you. You make sure that Luca's not on a great player where you're going to expend a lot of energy at the other end. But I agree. You still have to guard me. And chances are I'm going to outscore you. Yes, Paulie. I'm sure Lamar Jackson can play defensive back if need be.

12:11And I know it's a different sport, but nobody cares about Luca in defense. They got four of the guys who got to pick up the defense. Well, I care about Luca on the defensive end. I just want him to try. I think we know what it is at this juncture. It's like we pick and choose with this topic. We do. It drives me crazy. Because if we're talking about both ends of the floor, then give Wembee the MVP. Because if you talk about the most complete player in the game, you're talking about he's an A plus on the defensive end. And let's say he's an A minus on the offensive end. Let's average this out. If I give SGA an A plus an offense, and I give him a B minus on defense, if I give Joker an A plus on offense, and I give him a C plus B minus, I can just average it out if that's what you want to do. And that's, you know, the lazy approach that analysts have, and I don't play any defense.

13:11James Harden didn't either. Mike's the rare guy. The rare guy who was not a seven footer who was playing defense, you know, at an A level, when you're MVP and defensive player of the year, let that sink in. That's the amazing part of, and a guy who did, he'd like playing defense. But Wembee is going to be MVP and defensive player of the year really soon. And the fact that those odds have gone from 225, I think, plus 225, 225, plus 225 in the span of about two weeks. Yes, Marvin. Is Wembee's lack of postseason success holding him back from being a real candidate for the MVP award this season? Yeah, probably.

14:12Your postseason success determines your regular season MVP award. I think that we like to see what you're going to do. And it's like, we need to validate your greatness by what are you going to do in the postseason. Then the following year, we can give you an MVP. Yes, more. The Joel and beat MVP award is aging like milk. Yeah, but that's big perk on NBA today. Because he led that charge with like two weeks to go. He's telling the voters, you guys are going to make a big mistake giving Joker another MVP. It should be Joel and beat. And look, Joel and beat's been through an awful lot. And he's put up some really incredible numbers. But he wasn't better than Joker. He wasn't playing simple. Oh, I know and beat. I'm sure he was a lockdown defender. He played great. But when we start to pick and choose,

15:12then make sure you use it across all platforms with all players. If that's what you're going to do and you want to factor that in great. But nobody did that with James Harden. I never heard, we haven't played defense. Yeah, but he plays offense at a really high level. Yeah, Paulie. The Spurs are two and a half games back of the Thunder right now. The Thunder have six games to go. The Spurs have seven games to go. They got a little work to do. We talked about this. Did they play each other? Checking. Okay. But if the Spurs have the best record, then Wembee should win MVP, correct? Correct. That's what we've been basing this off of. Best player on the best team. Yeah, Paulie. They do not face each other. But they could be facing each other in the playoffs. The Thunder faced the Lakers twice. So that will get national TV play. Let's see. Mike in Sarasota. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today? Hey, D.P. How you doing today? So yesterday, you guys were talking about the favorite sports moments.

16:15So just real quick, I got a favorite one. First time seeing Mike Tyson live on pay-per-view. And it was against Buster Douglas. So. And then secondly, the reps for the Oklahoma City Game. Do you think they're going to call the same way in the playoffs that they did last night, as far as going to overtime and things like that? Yeah, but that had to be called. Like that was embarrassing if it wasn't. It wasn't a flop. But once again, I really think this is incumbent upon the officials and the NBA. Do you need, I'm sure they've discussed this, of how are we going to call this player? Like with Shaq. Like they had to confer to go, how do we call a foul on Shaq? He got fouled every time down the floor, just about. And I mean, true fouls, like it was, you know, Chuck Norris type of, you know, I'm going to chop your arm off if I can. But I, if I'm going to add him silver, I want to make sure that I don't let SGA

17:19go to the line 29 times or 25 times. Because I don't think it's a good look for the NBA. Yeah, smart. And speaking of push offs, we can talk to Reggie about pushing off. Whoa. Whoa. Sorry, Reggie. He admits that he did. Yeah, he pushed off. But so did the greatest player in maybe his greatest moment. Mike pushing off in Utah. I didn't see that. Yeah. Boy, I did. Oh, I got early World Cup odds. Let me take a break here. These are T's worthy, I think. That's a huge day, by the way, for your Italian squad. They got a big qualifier today. They got a win to get in. Well, they got Jimmy Skungel and Tommy Kalamari. The chances are they're going to be in good shape. Both. All right. We'll take a break. I'll give you the early World Cup odds. And then we'll talk to Bones McCong. The great analyst friend BC and former caddy for Phil Nicholson.

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22:28The story of the sport's most consequential driver strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom and was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career, a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both. He started getting all this attention and he may be started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no grip on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. More phone calls coming up. Everybody has an opinion, not only on Tiger. We just saw where TMZ reported that Tiger had hydrocodone, a couple of pills in his pocket. And they saw the police report. And it goes back to, here's Tiger in an accident and you're waiting for the police to arrive.

23:28And he leaves the pills in his pocket. He could have discarded them. And we still don't know if he's going to show up for the champion's dinner, if he's going to try to play or not. And also everybody has an opinion on the Dan Hurley situation as well. 8773DP show, email address, dpdampatric.com, Twitter handle at DAP Show. He's Jim Bones, McCoy, NBC Sports, on course reporter, former caddy for Phil Mickelson and Justin Thomas. How you feeling today, Bones? I'm doing great, Dan. How are you? I'm good. How many miles do you think you've walked? In your career as an on course reporter and a caddy? It's a good question. A guy came up to me once at a tournament. I think I was at the open championship. And he had done some math around some, what's caddy said? Done. He told me I'd walked around the globe twice with a golf bag on my back. So my knees still hurt. So if that's any indication, I've walked a lot. Have you had a game time decision,

24:29whether you were going to be able to caddy for Phil or Justin? Certainly traveling around the globe and doing certain things. You've run into food poisoning and things like that. I missed a couple of days over the course of 30 years of caddy. But I've never had a major injury or anything like that that kept me from working. Before I get to Tiger, I want to ask you about Phil Mickelson, because we haven't heard much from Phil either. And I don't know, is he, do you expect him to be at the Masters? Is he still wanting to compete on a high level? Yeah, I think Phil's a guy that would think he could win the Masters into his 60s. So it's just the way he's built. He's, you know, back playing competitive golf again now on his tour. So I would expect he'll show up at the Masters and he'll be intent on winning. What's it like, though, for a caddy and a player? Let's say this time, you know, leading up to the Masters. What are you doing? What's your player doing to get ready? I think watching, you know, it gets back to what we're talking about today

25:34with what the incredible Masters app and what's available out there in terms of watching previous Masters and picking up, you know, breaks on greens and wins on 12 and things like that. So there's so much you can delve into now, especially again, once you get into the Masters app, which is a award-winning and the greatest app in sports, if you ask me, that you can learn to help you out there on the golf course. But are you playing, are you going to Augusta a week before? There's real rules in terms of what the caddies can and can't do. You can't, you know, just go out there as a caddy a week before and walk the golf course a number of times and roll balls on the greens. You can only do it once your players showed up to town, so to speak. The players can play as much as they want to, but the caddies really don't get a chance to get a crack at the golf course until tournament week. When's the last time you played Augusta? Last November. How'd you do? It's getting away from you a little bit. I'm at that age now where golf and I aren't getting along that well.

26:36But I did all right, thank you. IBM and the Masters are unveiling a new AI-powered feature. This is what Jim was talking about. So this is an immersive way for fans to experience the Masters, you go Masters.com and tell me more about the app of what fans can experience with this. Well, you know, you can get out there through the Masters app and you can see every hole, every shot, every player in real time. It's an amazing thing. It's an award-winning app and it's a must-have in terms of keeping up with what's going on in the tournament. If you're not on property and it's got a couple of additional features this year, it's got the Masters vault search, which enables you to go back over 50 years and just type in Tiger's chip shot on 16 and it'll bring it up and show you great moments in past Masters history or Jack Nichols' amazing putt on 16 and 1975 on his way to another win. It's just an incredible way to immerse yourself in the tournament and get ready,

27:38fired up for this year's Masters. I was surprised how healing when I first went to Augusta back in the early 90s. People don't assume that it's going to be hilly in Georgia, Augusta. That's really surprised me and the elevation, the changing and elevation, that's why, you know, when we talk about these guys have to walk this course. You don't get cards, you've got to walk it and that's what, you know, when you're looking at Tiger trying to be able to play in previous years, maybe this year, that elevation takes its toll on these guys. Yeah, you're exactly right. It's what, you know, first-timers say without, you know, question the shocks and the most about being on the property is, you know, walking up eight or, you know, walking up the, even the first spare way, if you will, to your T-shot. It's rigorous and it takes its toll on your body and not only does your golf game have to be in good shape but you have to be as physically as well. What do you expect from Tiger next week? Where is he going to be in your opinion?

28:38Oh, man, it's such a tough question. I hope he's there. I certainly hope he's at the Champions dinner. You know, be great to have people rally around him there. Whether or not he plays, I don't know. I'm sure the events of last week may, you know, affect whether or not he ultimately does tee it up in the tournament. But wherever he is, I hope he's got, you know, his friends close by and there's a lot of people out there that are there for him, so to speak. What was it like, though, you're there with Phil and Phil's going toe to toe with Tiger and you're the caddy. Is there a part of you that's competitive with Stevie Williams, you know, Tiger's cat? Like you, you have to, this is my guy, that's your guy. You know, how did the caddy's kind of approach that rivalry? Yeah, there's a little of that. Certainly with, you know, with Steve and I, you're competitive. I was actually pretty good friends with Tiger and still am.

29:39And certainly you don't want that to become a factor when you're out there trying to win the Masters on a Sunday. I'm out there doing my thing with Phil, but, you know, those guys, you know, we're obviously on a different page for most of their careers in terms of, you know, how they went about things and their relationship itself. So I usually, you know, kept to what I was doing with Phil. And, you know, if you had a moment, you might have a conversation with Tiger about this or that. But, you know, usually you, you know, those guys got paired together late on a Sunday. You're trying to win the Masters or some other huge event. You're, you're, you're just, you know, clawing and trying to pick up every shot you can. What is it like now? You're a non-course analyst. But when you see the live players and the regular PGA tour players interacting. Like, is it, well, you tell me if it feels like forced a little, you know, they can't, are they buddy buddies still, even though they're playing on rival tours? I think it depends on the player. I mean, you know, you look at a guy like Dustin Johnson. I mean, he's still, you know, a lot of people love Dustin and for good reason.

30:41He's a, he's a wonderful guy. And, and I think when he left to do his thing, he, he did it in, in the appropriate way. Um, I, I just think it depends player to player. What, what, where, where some other guys might have left in a different fashion. Tiger at his peak, Scotty Sheffler right now in the embryonic stages of his career. Um, can you make any comparisons between those two? I can say that I never thought in my lifetime. I'm 60 years old that there would be another player that I would say, hey, my gosh. He's entering that conversation. Is he as good as Tiger? No, he's not. Tiger is by far the best player I've ever seen, but I didn't think I'd see another player this good, uh, in terms of what Scotty Sheffler is accomplishing on the PGA tour. What's your signature moment? Uh, I guess that conversation with Phil and the trees at number 13 in August 10, 2010, when we had a little back and forth as to what the best, uh, the best, you know,

31:44strategy was out of those trees and, and of course Phil wanted to go for it, you know, from the moment he set foot behind the ball and saw that there was a gap in the pines. And, uh, you know, I, I, it's not that I try to talk them out of it because he was insisting on going, but we had to get that club selection right. Uh, it worked out nicely and, and, uh, on his way to his third master's victory. But how does that work where you have to have an opinion? He gives you the opportunity to have opinion. What happens when your opinion does and coincide with his? Well, he's the boss certainly and, uh, Phil was a, uh, you know, was in a, a very opinionated, um, you know, strongly. He had, uh, he was, there was no self-taught there with Phil and that was great. He made it easy to work for him and, uh, so, you know, usually when his mind, he had his mind set on something, you know, you know, he was going to go ahead and go and do it, you know, and I would, I would say my peace and can kind of back out of there.

32:44But, um, he, the thing that's interesting about that shot out of the trees was I worked for the guy for 25 years. It was one of only two occasions where we got ourselves into a bit of a pickle where he told me what he was going to do before I even gave him the yardage. So he, on that particular shot, he had his mind made up and, uh, he was ready to roll. Yeah, and it turned out great for both of you guys. Uh, tell us one more time how people can access all this, uh, data AI from, uh, masters. Yeah, it's just available through the master's app. You can get it there on your phone or on your, uh, on your, on your device and it's, it's just an incredible thing to have and, uh, to be able to keep up with this year's tournament. And, uh, it's the most amazing app in sports that I've ever come across. Good to talk to you, Jim. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Dan. Take care. So, uh, bones, Mackayne, you can see him on NBC. They're on course reporter, former caddy for Phil Mickelson and Justin Thomas. I remember when Stevie Williams was talking about the Wii with Tiger, like,

33:45we've won all of these tournaments and we've won all these majors. And I talked to bones and I said, how many tournaments have you and Phil won? He goes, I didn't win it. Phil won the tournaments, you know, and, and that's, I, now, do I think the caddy plays a role, a large role, it depends on the player, but you would have thought that Stevie Williams was, it's, this was a 50, 50 partnership. I could have caddy for Tiger, I think, and he would have won a few majors. I just don't know if I could have carried the bag for days. Yeah, Paul. You know this. I don't really do the caddies play the course days before to get yardish. No, they don't. No. Okay. No, they just walk it. They walk it. But now they have booklets that give you all that information. And that used to be your yardage might be different than somebody else's. But yeah, they had, now they have booklets that they give you and you say, how far is it? 128, 129, I remember somebody gave, I think it's VJ Singh, his caddy.

34:49He said, how far out are we in this caddy said, 155, 156, he goes, which one is it? They need the exact, exact number there, but masters.com to get all of that good stuff there. He's not sure if Tiger's going to be there. I'm hoping the champions dinner. I can't imagine that he would be playing, but hey, it's Tiger and how many times if we said I can't imagine that he would be playing. Oh, I teased this, the early World Cup odds. Okay. All right. Who wants to guess who has the best odds to win them? I'll go to our resident soccer guy, Marvin. Oh, Germany. Okay. Who has the best odds right now? How about Spain?

35:49Spain is correct. Who is second? Paul? Portugal? No, they're down a little bit there. Todd. The French. Third. England. Second. Then it's France, Argentina, Brazil. Portugal. Germany. Netherlands. Norway. Italy. Italy. They're not even in yet. Belgium. Colombia. Morocco. Morocco. Probably saying where's the United States? Yeah, Morocco is nasty. They're really good. They're really good. Right after Morocco. Early World Cup odds. USA plus 6,500. USA. USA. USA. USA. It's better than when they're not in. Yes, Todd. There's no way that country is going to win, right? They're just all the way down at the bottom.

36:51There's no way that could happen. Every four years, Dan. I won't make that joke again before you. I like it. I do love when Todd slows down the delivery. Just for those who might not be smart enough to get it. That joke got a Chile reception. Oh, thanks. It's going to help me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could explain it to you better. Oh, okay. Pretty much something to learn. Not bad. Spain is your favorite. Followed by England, France, Argentina, and Brazil. Yes, Marvin. I can't wait for when the World Cup starts. If Russell Westberg plays soccer, how good would he do it? Like name your starting five. If we had our best athletes, if LeBron is goalie. Could you imagine Victor Wimbenyama as a goalie?

37:51Wow. I don't know. Too many holes there, Seaton, for somebody that big? Possibly. Yeah, possibly. Okay. Five hole. Yeah. All right. Yes, Paul. Sports radio shows in France will be using that Wimbenyama. Yeah. Discussing that one. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Kyle in Austin. Morning, Kyle. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. I would just want to piggyback off something you mentioned earlier with Tiger. It was heartbreaking for me to see him go through one of these situations again on someone who battles with addiction. And I had a seven to eight year span where my life was just really kind of falling apart. I mean, on paper, I had, you know, everything going for me. I've got great career, three kids, amazing place to live. And I just, you know, I was going through life lying to myself and lying to my wife and lying to my kids. And I had to finally, I'm sorry, it's kind of emotional. You know, you have to take that personal accountability. You have to want to change.

38:51And so I remember being in a position like Tiger. It's not an accident or something. It ain't negative. But that mindset of, I've been in control. And so now that I'm through that, my testimony is a beautiful thing because I, you know, I'm accountable to my kids. I'm accountable to my wife. I've acknowledged my past mistakes, the lying, the sneaking around and the non-accountability. And so, you know, I use that as a testimony to raise my kids to be aware of the pitfalls. You know, addiction can be genetic. It can be by choice. But it comes with that desire to want to change. To want to be a bird person. So I just want to share that. My prayers go off the tiger and his family and everybody else that has to go through that. I love your guys show. Have a great day, fellas. Thank you. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, you can have it in your family tree. I remind my kids all the time that it's in the family tree

39:54on both sides with my wife and myself. And you just have to be aware. But you have to be willing to be honest with yourself. That's all with tiger. You know, you have two of these vikers in your pocket. And you don't have the wear with all to take those out and throw those away at the scene of the accident. And if you have it in a bottle, in a prescription bottle, if it's contained, that's one thing, but it's in his pocket. This is vikadin. And vikadin does what you want vikadin to do. Makes you feel better. You get that warm feeling. You don't want to feel anything. And who knows what all the surgeries that he's had. Like how much pain you wake up every single day. And then how do I get through the day? And he's not able to play competitive golf anymore. I mean, you can make an appearance at TGL.

40:55But nine swings is not walking four days at Augusta. And you wonder later in his life, like, what is he going to do? This is all he's known. He's been in front of us since he was two years of age. What is he going to do? Not going to be an analyst. Are you able to play in the senior tour? They'll give him, you know, a cart, but I don't know if he wants to, you know, do you want to play? How badly do you want to play? Do you want to play? And you know, it's going to hurt. So there's a lot going on with this story. This is... But it's a microcosm of what's been happening with Tiger. People got to be honest with him, man. But he's got to be honest with himself. Because I remember trying to put somebody into rehab. We basically had a palace coup. And it was tough, you know.

41:55It was tough love. But, you know, what? I look back and we saved somebody's life. We did. Save somebody's life. But they have to be willing to be honest with himself. All right. Well, take a break. More phone calls coming up. Reggie Miller. Reggie keeps sending me all these topics. He wants to talk about the MVP. He wants to talk about the Duke Meltdown. He wants to talk about the Dan Hurley moment. Reggie's all fired up with... Now he's sending me topics. Normally, I send him topics. He's producing some stuff here. All right. We'll take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the IHARDS radio app, search F-S-R to listen live. Are you one of the seven percent of adults in the United States who are searching for an alternative to sleeping in a bed? Then let me introduce you to Z-Cliner, the revolutionary recliner designed by FlexSteel. The Z-Cliner meticulously engineered with restful sleep in mind,

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47:00Judd and Toledo, hi Judd, what's on your mind today? Good morning Dan, first time caller. You know what Tiger, obviously he is going to have to face this addiction problem just like you were just talking about with bones, both legally and even more so in the court of public opinion. But it's just not me thinking that we should talk about the entire man as long as we're going to talk about the mistakes he's made behind the wheel. And I'm not trying to condone that whatsoever. But I do want to take into consideration for what this man has not only meant to the game of golf with 15 majors and 82 wins, but what he's done to help kids. He started his foundation with his parents back in 1996. They've raised about 200 million dollars. They've started these Tiger Woods learning labs.

48:00First one in Anaheim where he grew up. Second one in Philadelphia. Third one will be in Augusta, Georgia. And the fourth one will be in Atlanta. It's a great public private partnership where they identify a school. No, I know. Look, Judd, we understand all of the things that Tiger has done and accomplished. What if he killed somebody driving? This is separate. All the stuff, the philanthropic stuff, the greatest golfer of all time. All of that stays. This is now. That's what we're talking about. It's now. He had Tiger Codone in his pocket. He rolled his SUV. He's done this a couple of times. I mean, he's lucky to be here.

49:00So you can bring up his resume and open up the scrapbook. That's great. But he's going to throw it all away. That's the point we're trying to make. We're not trying to denigrate him. We've acknowledged his greatness. We've acknowledged all the things that he's done. But now we got to acknowledge what's happening right in front of us. There's a big difference in that. Michael in Fort Wayne. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind? Hey, good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. I had a realization this morning as we were talking about Dan Hurley. He is the Todd Fritz of the coaching world. Some people love him. Some people hate him. But you can always count on him to do two things. One, he will make content. And two, he will make it all about himself. And Dan Hurley is the fritzie of the college basketball world. Is there a small compliment in there somewhere? I don't know. You got to really dig for that one.

50:00Similar hairstyle. See, all right. He's just piling on now. It's pretty close. I'm a little crazy too. We all know that. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. David and Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind? Hey, Todd. I'll make you feel a little bit better here. I think what Dan Hurley said, and this is the Utah. His favorite Bruce Springsteen saw him on that three one down. Hey. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, all right. Thank you, too. I think we missed the punchline. You're at least a portion of it. Rhonda in Texas. I Rhonda, welcome back. Good morning, Dan. The Danets. Two comments. First, instead of the day, when VP had a season high, 41 points and 16 rebounds while collecting the fastest double-double in NBA history, last night, the San Antonio Furs, one they're not straight, defeating the Chicago Bulls, 129 to 114.

51:00When they had 10 points, 10 rebounds in its first eight minutes, 31 seconds on the court, that was his 10th rebound within a one-minute and 55 seconds in the second quarter. The second fastest time that's ever happened in NBA history was when Jim Washington, of the St. Louis Hall, had a double-double in nine minutes against the New York Knicks, on March 6, 1966. That's the stat of the day. And then also, I have a suggestion for the Las Vegas NBA team. I know that NHL has the Dallas stars. And yet, what do you think about the Las Vegas stars since the city is filled with celebrities? Thank you, Dan. Alrighty, Rhonda. Thank you. Thank you. Isn't there a minor league baseball team? Las Vegas stars? Does that sound right? Am I making that up?

52:02What about Las Vegas strip? Did we decide? Yeah, your name on that? Sounds like a name. Okay, all right. Reggie Miller. He's ready to go. He'll join us in about 25 minutes from now the final hour in this Tuesday, right after this. Imagine never having to buy gas again. It's true. It's real. And it's here right now. EVs are as easy the charge as your phone and they're perfect for everyday life. You can drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. And most Americans drive about 40 miles a day. And most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. EVs, they have fewer parts, fewer repairs, fewer headaches, and with hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. Trust me, the way forward is electric. Learn more at electricforall.org. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F1.

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