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well we've been waiting and waiting and waiting and the day is finally arrived the

people are packing in we are in heaven brick welcome to heaven welcome to heaven

yeah pickable heaven pickable heaven beautiful iPad sweatshirt looks nice thank you I got here

plenty early you guys were very concerned yeah yeah I didn't even stop and get myself a cup of coffee

oh we're awesome we got the breakfast sandwiches we get to go I told you we be this is heaven

this is heaven whatever you want this is not Iowa and if it doesn't if it's not here we'll

make Jefferson go get it that's right yeah we have a you know what I'm noticing there's a lot of

people from the station here there are like that they have made this into a very big event

it's it should be a big event it should be I mean we got cameras we got lights you name we got

they got Brian like up from Florida lights that they wish we have we have lights well I mean

yes big giant TV and Thomas Edison would be so proud would you please stop today I watched a lot

of college basketball my home almost came completely um completely down yeah was you North Carolina

no no no I think a North Carolina loss he could have dealt with yeah blowing a 19 point lead in

the second half no he was so funny the game ends and he wanted to say something terrible he goes

I hope Hubert Davis I hope Hubert Davis I hope his glasses break that was a you tell him Alex he

don't want to get yelled at you tell him he didn't want to get yelled at they start blaming me

it's your fault he goes this is all your fault I said what did I do he goes you you said it was

over I said I didn't say it was over I said nothing like that I said up 11 with four minutes to go

you guys are in pretty good shape he goes yeah you jinxed it I said I didn't jinx anything you

team stinks see no real chance anyway they're in the tournament no no no no without Caleb Wilson

but you lose the first day though oh I mean that's the first day they make it through the night

that's tough yeah that's terrible I had to get a scare that was woof it got sketchy yeah

they were down to 11 I think see on a shot like 23 and a half percent in the second half yeah well

do finally became Duke but I don't know if you heard the interview with Malik Brown at the end

of the first half to like you know what what happened there he's like well we kind of took them

for granted here and we didn't really play a very good first half and their defense which is

their calling card was absolutely awful and it was a really really bad performance from from Duke

yesterday but like Jim and Valin said you know years ago surviving advance in that thing well you

can spend that however you want to spend it though right I mean it's your it's your first game

you've been I mean there's the number one seed in the whole turn right right they've been one

like the best thing but I told you then not right they're not healthy well they're not right but

also I mean it's your first it's your first game so you're playing a sienna team you're the one

seed in the whole tournament there are 16 I mean there's the tendency that hey maybe we take

them a little bit for granted you go around you play with your food and then all of a sudden before

you know what you're in a game because now sienna believes they can beat you that's right so I mean

it could be it maybe just what they need right I mean to be able to do what they do

I don't know come back I'm sure there were nerves and then you get down and it's like oh crap

what the hell's happened I saw stats from teams that are I don't so the same thing like one

seeds that they win by less than seven points I think one of them has gone to the final four

that's correct so I remember I remember back in 89 Georgetown that famous game against Princeton

where they almost lost 16 against the one and it was 50 49 I think it was 80 I was a long

time morning I forget the year I made was 88 but they they and they didn't do anything in that

tournament well I have a good coach they have a shower is terrific right so he's a good coach

and they have a star player booster right so they said I mean they they settle it down at half time

figure it out find a way to win you can use it as a positive you can focus on the negative but

I mean they survived in advance that's it's it's it's hard man to get through this thing it really is

you watch some of these teams I mean high point unbelievable by the way here you'll love this and so

this is I looked at high point this morning I think we've talked about this before it's a private

oh they they they they have classes and like how does yeah all sorts of wild stuff it's known as

the premier life skills university yeah yeah do you know they have like five star restaurants

well because business deals are done at restaurants but they have five star restaurants on campus

and they have classes and it's like all right you over-stake you talk to your professor and figure

out a way and I guess there's like stages you can pay the extra 20,000 to get this or the extra

30,000 yeah well they're basketball team one yeah who's a good team uh Wisconsin's a good team

apparently it I mean that's how'd your bracket do uh not great not good enjoy my pool I didn't

have time oh stop I didn't do his bracket who's I got yeah I got RJ texting me he's putting pressure

on me RJ put a lot of pressure on me yesterday yeah John and then a Johnny's to know what my name

is on the thing right I got the same thing I got a copy of the URL let me ask you this so I get

this accusatory very accusatory from RJ hey uh John wants to know what your bracket name is well

D-Roth is what's my John couldn't figure out that I was D-Roth how many D-Roth do you think

are floating around here I was only told in the directions like the 15 directions that I got

with do this this and this and then send you like I emailed you you are a lot by great yeah I'm

copying I'm pasting I'm emailing I know and then I get one what's your name I was like Tim Cook

yeah John I say first of all tell John that you're not his personal assistant we just had a

we have John reaching out yeah we just had a 15 minute face you know what that is

the reason John just just I like that face him I thought it was good but John believes that he's

better than our yes and he he held he pinned him down like verbally pinned him down yesterday

so like I'm gonna have RJ I'm bigger than you yeah and I'm more powerful than you and my

pants are continuously tighter than yours and for that reason and more you're going to find out

if they joined rub my glutes yeah text them and then rub my glutes I'm the I'm concerned about

your glutes my I have a serious issue going on well that's that's turning I have Jefferson

Robert here's the here's my issue though yeah I mean look at these look at these guys over here

we got some ringers at this thing you think so look at them they're already warming up it's say I mean

it's six what are they going to do what even they're already warming up I don't trust that one

in the red right there see him yeah he looks like a real problem yeah I talked to Don who owns the

play yeah and he said he feels very confident our abilities today okay well that's fine I mean

if we're playing Gabby and Jordan again I feel great about it yeah that was that wasn't even like

a really a match no not really well they're not they're not all that destruction is what it was

I'll play in the program today I'm telling you right now with you let me know how that goes I

get Brian's gonna play with me okay good you and Brian can can play I want people to see this guy

no he's unbelievable he is unbelievable but the thing that's so disconcerting about that guy is

the lack of effort he puts into it like you look at him and you don't think to yourself boy that's

going to be a a world class football player that's the beauty it's the beauty of pickle ball though

it's the beauty of pickle ball but it's like the bouncer in a bar that you look at you like I

could take that guy and then like you know with his thumb he yeah eradicate all of a sudden you're

in a cross face chick and we can get a check the years if they got the cauliflower you're cauliflower

you stay away stay away yeah or like Lord and Taylor were like I was like no I could kill you yeah

like you probably any almost did so how much college basketball did you all of it all of it yeah how

how is that possible well I didn't watch all of it but I mean all the guy had all the games on

like all three TVs we're going so you had like Islanders going last night your ranges going

last night you college basketball checking on the savers for our jade making feel good because he's

on this high right now that was him as a fricking wagon what they went five nothing last night they

just changed the GM nothing else that's it well maybe maybe the Rangers it's all they did this

suit they just changed the GM all of a sudden now they're the best team in the league mix that's

tonight oh that's a big one oh yeah that's a that's a really playing for some wins here but yeah oh

yeah no that's stink they're trying to do exactly what they're doing yeah well half the NBA is trying

to do exactly what they're doing right Milwaukee is now shutting down Yannis and you want he's

refusing though Yannis will he wants to play yeah he's becoming a giant crossbee of the NBA is a

giant pain um but we're not focused on that so we're focused on what what are we focused on we're

focused on us today us this is about us is about us yeah we didn't by the way we didn't even tell

each other that we were in the pickleball heaven sweatshirt and we both wore the pickleball heaven

sweatshirt I like we're at well that's because we're you know we've melded together I like we're

we're really good coupling we're going to be on a string today I can feel it you know it's we're

thinking back well I felt like last time we played well yeah we played fine I thought we played

well yeah I think we could play better though concerned about my my calf though yeah listen I think

now I think that I'm going to try to figure out the tequila to you know performance ratio I need

today you're going to start drinking tequila at this hour probably soon yeah oh great I don't

want to peek too early though did they tell you don't start drinking during the show or that

was never mentioned as far as your concern is probably just going to be orange juice uh-huh

but but the concern with me is that I'm going to start drinking have the problem I don't have a

problem right right I don't have a problem I have the major drinking problem yes you're the one

that has the issue we know that and we'll curtail it and you are a drug addict I mean we saw

that on the uh drug addict you were yeah texting RJ from space I was near space you I might have

been had a problem I might have been closer to the moon the other day than I was the atmosphere

great great great great text me yesterday and he thinks you need day you need to have a talk to

what can talk you that's what Ray said Raymond that ask Raymond what do you mean Raymond is back in

the shop Raymond you texted him and said we need an intervention for me there's there's concerns we

have concerns you had people believing that Raymond had a drinking problem for like three months you

guys told me that we said he had fun at the bar mitzvah that's all we said if you and you turn

where his dad calls was like Raymond do we need to have a talk here you're back I got people

thinking I'm an alcoholic because the dirty rumors you spread bad guy I didn't spread any rumors I

was told that you were out of control the bar mitzvah that's what I was all because we're all

upset we didn't get a candle that's really what came down here we go oh we want to was a candle

that's it I texted RJ from space yesterday from space yes that sounds like a guy that's

got a problem is what it sounds like you know it maybe maybe you're right yeah as long as you're

good today that's all it matters I'm gonna be good today yeah you guys we try to get this bag get

that by it this bag yet I'm gonna be good to that the goal is to be good the goal is to be good

everything yeah I saw the t-shirts too the nice t-shirts to say yeah guy we we lost to DPH

right we beat DPH so I was wondering why they made that many t-shirts that said we beat DPH

yeah I like that I just like that I was like we hopefully don't give any of those away that's the

goal how many matches in in a two hour span do you think we're gonna play I have no idea how

this is gonna work I imagine quite a few because 12 15 we got Santa Clara and Kentucky I don't

mean that's about me yeah but I don't think that's a big issue for us for me well we can play here

and watch the game on the TV how do you think I'm gonna concentrate with a game right in front of me

it's not gonna go well you're a you're a terrific pickable player I think you could do both okay

we're starting at 10 o'clock yeah at 12 15 I'm still playing pickable people want to take it

I don't know I don't know if that's already got games going on right now people are

dialed man this is gonna be serious Brian's been playing pickable every day are these guys involved

probably oh they look good yeah this is gonna be an issue we need Gabby and Jordan to know we

don't to beat up on first yeah warm up match I think that would be appropriate yeah with all

their heckling and talking and all that can't be falling although like that was fun though uh yeah

don't watch me get me trying to dive don't yeah that was that was very cute very adorable no

remember when Jordan melted down on that third game yeah that was great we mentally we yeah we just

yeah that was the best part she's like Jordan why do you make so many mistakes I am so bad that

was my favorite yeah that was great well because you could see you could see like you could see it

they're visually we're coming right you could see after game two that they realized like we have no

chance now which was great yeah well you played great well thank you I appreciate that um have

you seen what Senka has done um in spring train I have uh he has been phenomenal right he's been

the anti-miniose so far and uh well I mean let's not let's not forget what Senka was before he got hurt

too oh he was awesome he was unbelievable that was the day we went to the game right no that was

yeah publicans and you're like we got so many guys we did at that time we did yeah right I mean

we're griffin canning we had Senka little little that I know that by saying that every starter on

the meds rotation would would get injured well that's the real concern with him right it's just it's

it's how you have to handle him right I mean he's he's better with extra rest so how does that

affect down what you want to do with Peralta and McLean and then at what point does he get hurt

that he's just one of those guys that needs everything to be so he's going to get hurt it's only a matter

of when does it get hurt well I mean it feels like it or something's going to be bothering him and he

he's not willing to fight through it there's just guys like that I told you I had that one guy that

would did self-assess himself when he got in the training room right the guys like how do you feel

he's like well my left shoulder's like 62% my right one it's like buddy I mean either we're playing

or not like I don't need a full assessment of like every body part here can you play or not

well I don't know so look at my tuxa share the other day right there I'm texting you from space I'm

doing pretty nice that's the support of wife yeah but I she was excited to learn that I was in

space as well what does she think about today does she feel like we have a real chance today um

she's hopeful is she gonna watch uh she's in Florida yeah but she can watch I think it's gonna be

live live stream that's what he said yeah I think so she'll have a long day of sports then she'll

have our pickleball match and the Ben has two baseball games yeah so well I mean listen she's a

I will say this though as crazy as you are yeah and as but much of a handful as you are so you

you're really truly like deep down find me to be a hand I think everyone here believes that you're

a tremendous handful RJ I think that's a nod either way tremendous handful yes as I was

seeing RJ how would RJ know what I'm like his husband he doesn't know this is it we've never

been married he has no idea he's with you for he's with you 20 hours a week we know you are a lot

and she's there every step of the way every step of the way every step average I mean four

o'clock in the morning she wakes up to say goodbye I mean that's a that's a woman yeah it's a woman

I mean she does I look at you that wasn't nice oh I mean as I say you look great oh thank you

yeah so I mean she's lucky too yeah I don't know that she sees it like that but I'll take all the

compliments I can get so go back to the meds rotation so you you trust McLean yep you trust

parolta trust parolta although there's this I think misconception and I don't want people to to

to take this the wrong way like parolta is not going to be a seven and a third inning guy

parolta's like a five and a third and then hands it over to the bullpen because he's a lot of strikeouts

a lot of pitches and you will wind up getting a good performance more times than not but I don't

know that you're going to get tremendous length from him every single time and I don't want people

to go into the season expecting well six and two thirds and why did he not go do that you're

going to get five to six innings from him consistently good innings from him right which is I

mean the word you just said last is the most important word consistent yeah I mean last year I

think our biggest struggle ended up being is that we didn't have outside of Peterson really

anyone who's going to go out there and give you a consistent start it was or length so now all

of a sudden you know what that does during the course of a season now is you put so much emphasis

on your bullpen that they start to get worn down and now all of a sudden the bullpen isn't as good

as it should be and and the whole thing just kind of fell apart but that was I mean that was a real

concern going into last season you try to feed me the whole I mean I trust David Stern I do trust

David Stern and Frankie Montas is a good signing I mean it was it was it was kind of it was kind of

sad a little bit what my take or yes or the sign just I mean the I you know that Frankie Montas

wasn't going to be good I had belief in David Stern's I didn't I thought he was going to be okay

because that's how much I bought into David Stern's now I'm a little more some buyers or more

so I'm a little more hesitant of my belief of Stern's but what did he do in year one that didn't

lead you to believe that he's a really good I don't I don't know if we can even use year one

right like I don't know if that was I mean now that you see what he's done to this team it's clear

that he didn't believe in that team either that was kind of like a magic carpet ride right with

grimace and hockey all the different things that won a OMG like they caught lightning in a bottle

I will say though that that might my one fear going into last season was David Stern's not really

prioritizing what he had in that clubhouse right when you find yeah when you find that mix and

it's a good mix and you see like the amount of fun this team has happened and everything else

I would be hard pressed to try to move off of that especially if it's not for big-time money like

it's not big-time contracts we're talking about but they did they bring in Soto who's just naturally

going to be a big person like he's going to yeah of course well he's going to suck the air out of

the room it's going to be his team right I mean 765 million bucks 15 year deal he's going to

suck the air out of the room and he has a certain way he wants to do things Lindor has a certain

way he wants to do things then you got Pete so it just I mean the clubhouse was obviously an issue

last year I make nails of a pain right I mean yes they they completely I mean you look at any team

in baseball do you think there's a lot that have made as many changes as the meds your first

basement is new yeah your second basement is new your third basement is new center fielder is new

I mean I you're right fielder you switch your right fielder to to a left fielder I know you

right fielder now he's your property yes he got two off of positions right you got you two

corner positions in the infield you got your second basement yeah there's a lot of change you

close there's new you set up guys new you're you're your ace or or or other ace is new what the

DS the DS loss ah the DS loss which again for I mean was it 3 million bucks yeah makes me sick

to my stomach but it's I mean what exactly happened to Devin Williams last year right I mean was

it I heard he had a baby was that part of it and then you also heard like hey this is New York and

it wasn't something that he necessarily love he's like why are all these reporters in the locker

why I don't know because it's New York and you're on the yankies that's why right like it's a

different kind of pressure oh yeah Milwaukee is Milwaukee welcome to New York right but this is

going to be now it's not the Yankees but this is going to be a similar amount of of pressure

coming off 83 wins replacing Edwin Diaz like this is actually going to be pressure

man is pressure right especially because every match fan is much like we pay attention

on what the Yankees are doing so like you know what Devin Williams did for the Yankees he

crapped himself exactly right yeah like it wasn't good so I mean Kenny bounce back

hopefully for us and we were did the same thing yeah right weaver was then thrust into that role

he was good until he wasn't so I don't I don't understand like if you told me there were two

evenly matched guys yep I would want to take the guy who didn't have the ties to the Yankees but

Stern seems to not worry about that even a little bit like he had no problem going after

the Yankees back into their bullpen in the offseason right but you can look at it one of two ways

you can look at it as hey these guys because you've seen weaver be really good I've seen

Williams be great too well but I'm saying in New York yes like you saw Luke weaver be a really good

yes so he's had success in New York that's the I mean that's the one thing that you don't know when

you start going outside of of New York can this guy make it here right under these and I would say

like right now my my instinct is that Devon Williams you don't like you're not a fan of Devon well no

I mean he got better but that wasn't as the closer right he's going to be the closer to this team

that's what they mean that's what they told him when they signed it right which may be part of the

reason that that didn't want to go on but I guess they didn't even that was part of it too like

they didn't even tell I understand but still for three million bucks right I don't I don't yeah

I can understand them I can understand them oh as much as they'd hurt you that that Pete was

gone because you fell emotionally attached to him so the one that hurts you the most is is

Diaz right one that makes the little the least amount of sense and it hurts the most to

for me it hurts the most well I think I think offensively they're going to be very good I think so

too but I think a lot of people like really like Pete a lot of kids like Pete he was a polar bear I

understand he had a chance to be the so is that what you're trying to do are you trying to just

curry favor with the fans and have a a forever no no I'm saying what are you talking about what hurt yeah

yeah like you said Diaz but I'm still talking about on the field no but I think that Pete I mean

for what they brought in it wasn't like they brought in a good first basement that

addressed like defensive knee no no he's never played first base before is he is good enough

offensive players Pete is no you saw what I mean you saw Pete there with the with soda on that line

up right so I mean that you have to replace that power I mean listen but she's going to be a good

offensive player like he is a he is a legitimate professional hitter star I don't I love his

defense at third base but I think you'll hit good enough we won't have to worry about that but

there are questions at first defensively um and does that end up becoming Beatty's position

because Beatty's a really good job right I never lock on top as your everyday D8 what version of

Viantos do you get I mean the fact that Viantos went from what we saw they sent down Maurizio yesterday

all right but I mean Viantos is the one that was what one of the trajectory was what was one of the

most frustrating last season it's like what exactly did you do is that they figured you out or was

it like you thought you arrived so you didn't put in the work right because what we saw like I was

just I was convinced because usually in that second year you know as as guys get to see you know

your tendencies they're going to adapt until you adapt back right they've kind of figure you out

but you'll watch them in the postseason he was unbelievable in the postseason right so it's like okay

like going into the postseason into series you know the way that they break these guys down they're

going to try to I mean they're going to try to they're going to try to take advantage of all your

weaknesses and they couldn't in the postseason so like it's how in year two they're going to do it

right at the level of pitcher you're singing the postseason is better than we say regular season is what

leads me to believe that he probably probably was feeling good about himself and maybe didn't put in

the appropriate over the gas a little bit yeah all right well if he bounces back I mean it doesn't

really feel like it to me but baseball is here I mean next Wednesday the Yankees next Thursday the

match not neither on a non-streaming service by the way right but we're less than a week I mean we're

less than a week away I know I can't wait I know I can't wait it's nice to but I mean it's you get the

you get the like the high of the WBC and he had a couple minutes kind of all right take a step back

take a breath I was I was I was you were really that upset like no I wasn't I was upset but the way

the game I mean the way the game was played it was kind of like a I'm off of pitching in defense

but I mean the U.S. no offense did nothing no offense whatsoever it wasn't even exciting it was like

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guys busy busy making paninis that's what he's done my ipad is just connecting no it's not

connecting he he he froze it that's a coffee for you right there that's that's i understand yes that's

very nice yep um he froze my ipad now i can't get in to see what what callers we have i believe

there are callers and i and now i can't even see them i'll do it okay i'll do it thanks a lot

RJ blame john blame john this is john's fault because john's the one that made you get the ipad

that's right and i get this beautiful gorgeous do you see this thing john this is top shelf ipad

it's funny though because your your video yes they did not seem nearly as nice as my video

uh that's what i'm told yeah that's what i'm so i don't know what kind of ipad you got

you see what kind of is it refurbished no it feels like it feels like it might be refurbished

so you're taking a shot of my wife now she bought it for she bought it for me

listen i would never take a each shot at your wife unless you ask me to no i would never ask you

too that's something i would i would want to have like a little treat for

she'd be like wait uh go ahead you'd be like it's already there go go go go

uh let's have it on nice what you just did there's not nice what what i did is not nice

there's front of all our friends like that what oh yeah well how about that i i was not nice to him

the insinuation was not nice oh sorry so sorry let's go to our dear friend the great Joe and

ocean gate Joe good morning you're on ESPN new york

hi good morning guys i just call into you know wow i wish you guys the best of luck today don't

take anybody lightly no and let the let your let your buttery smooth hands you will to talk in

today that's the goal the hands will be fine since you couldn't figure out that you can't have

porn in florida so you should know you can you can you can you can he should be well-rested

specific site is not functional in florida it amateurs what you are uh hum you got to go you got to

have options you went with one option it's a bad plan um it got very cold here all of a sudden uh

Joe what did you want to talk about today besides our pickle matches well i mean i do i do love

obviously always love talking about the giants but i know with the marksman that's going on i'm in

some great games yesterday and i'm i'm sure your son is just devastated devastated devastated

absolutely devastated but i really just wanted to call with you guys walk in uh i think we can

and uh and sixty five or sooner go and show sixty it's not a guarantee though it's not a

guarantee you're in a guarantee yeah you should you want it it's only an expectation it's a

guarantee yes all right it's a guarantee sixty five or sooner yeah guarantee it's gonna happen

and it's gonna it's gonna pain Raymond that i know if i should mark it down it's a guarantee that i know

oh it's gonna pain him he may go missing he may you know what he may retire and go just do the

whole coffee bean thing um yeah it's possible just bean up no sorry little dried mango bean up

i mean that's got that could be his future yeah and then watch his Dallas Cowboys right serious

question now if the giants were to win the Super Bowl would that cause you tremendous pain or

everyday everything Rick said is on the table everything Rick just said or would you think to yourself

you know what my friend is so happy no and that's that's the true gift of friends you don't need

to be happy a fifth time it's fine right but you're not a good guy though that's the problem people

don't rally around you because you're not nice i'm very nice you are nasty you know what to Raymond

you're here and here and if this happens if this sixty five or sooner comes to pass yeah he'll be

that much nasty yes you're a nasty b and you should be treated like it's a nasty cuss yes that's

how Raymond feels about well i mean i i have been a a trapped lion for a decade it's like i'm i'm

in a cage and you're and they're complaining to me bananas i'm a lion i need meat is what i need

you're complaining to me what what am i i'm sorry i hear not probably not the person i should look

to if they've been feeding you bananas what about what i haven't i don't feed you anything nothing

they give you like a starving uncrustables you know okay that's not a terrible tree and who was it

that recently was taking the crust off the uncrust the crust off the uncrustables a couple

of things it's a basketball player yeah yeah that's i think it seems like a waste since there's no

crust on it to begin with so um seven and a half was the giant's number you just think it's an

absolute impossibility you do not expect this team to to win a Super Bowl this year no of course

not this year like well what is it what is the potential upside for the giants this season i think

the potential upsides could be i mean i i i would feel comfortable going over the seven and a half

eight nine maybe so they could be an eight win team well here here's the thing okay is

it doesn't just happen where rookie quarterback has a good first year and all of a sudden that's

a guarantee that he's gonna have a really good second year right i mean Jake Daniels went to the

NFC championship game and right between injury and everything else right a great

second you see Brady taking shots at him um no i didn't yeah Brady took shots i saw i'm taking

i mean they took shots at him he's like he hasn't played and then he said well you know

something about his mother like yeah Brady is being very aggressive with the shots he's taking

his Regina's in front of the show a through mail through mail via mail me as well as Regina um

no i saw him taking shots at uh is it Logan with Logan Paulie what the fuck yeah um

so it's no guarantee and then you got Malik neighbors come back off a serious injury we see what

that looks like so i mean there are questions right but i got to imagine that your confidence and

a lot of giants fans confidence comes from the fact that last year there were very winnable games

that because of poor coaching that you lost now that that's all cleaned up the pieces that you've

added right a different way of doing things you're one of john harbaugh more accountability more

discipline harder training camp that i could understand why you're so excited now 65 as soon as

a little bit crazy boy why why five years five five years it's not like i'm saying next year

the year after i told i laid out my plan for you an eight or nine win season next year is that

a realistic possibility i think it's realistic okay competing for the for a play like i want to

get into the playoffs year two realistic i mean if you don't think in your in year three with

dark i know i understand that but i mean there are so many things that can go wrong like you have it

like this that's not how i mean that's that's not necessarily how the NFL works well that's what i

want and that's what i need to have happened i mean john harbaugh is not a young man it's not like

john harbaugh is only one that you act like john harbaugh won multiple super balls in Baltimore he

couldn't get to a super with the marjacks i understand now he's all the sudden gonna step into it

this team that really won two games but four and all of a sudden like being the super role with

Jackson dark i don't think right away dark dark well i just i mean that that's what you're telling me

though i think within the reason why the reason why john harbaugh is your coach is because with one

of the most talented teams in the NFL he couldn't get to a super bowl but now coming to your team

that's not even the most talented team in your division in five years i want a super bowl i mean

they went to the fc championship game and they hosted it and they lost two the Kansas City Chiefs

was you saying super bowl though i understand right like if he had been to a super bowl

he probably still the coach of the Baltimore Raven maybe so right although bashad he said after

last year's loss in week uh seventeen you went from the marjacks and to jackson dark yeah jackson

starts going into year two jackson dark is not the marjacks and and he couldn't get his he couldn't

get to a super bowl with the marjacks and and Derek Henry and all the other talented players on that

team so i mean could it happen yes i wouldn't guarantee that it happens you know you don't have to

i have to and it's going to happen so again next year seven or eight eight or nine somewhere in

that range and seven to nine wins you look at that i gotta hear here's what i'll say okay i have to

imagine now that you've you found the coach obviously and you believe you have the quarterback

you should have the ability to compete every year now to be at the top of the division

like there's no reason not to believe yeah and i was reading something recently it says

i mean harbore builds to win throughout the NFL but the real way he builds his team is to be the

Eagles is to match up to beat those teams within your division that's what he said he said

right now the Eagles of the class of the division we have to figure where to beat him yeah and i

actually believe the Eagles are not tremendously but a little bit on the downswing as well yeah i mean

they lost they've lost a lot a lot of pieces this off season they got a figure what's going on with

their quarterback and i would not will maybe a j brown maybe a j brown right feels like they want

a lot for him um well of course you can ask a lot i mean they're going to wait till after June

anyway right mm-hmm it's like you just saw jalen wildo go for a one in a three i like that trade for my

i we talk about not understanding what if you're really close you don't love that trade no i don't

understand what is my me doing why like i understand strip this down strip this down strip this down

and then paid that quarterback that much money but it wasn't but it wasn't it's not like it's a

tremendous amount of money but if you want to be pretty decent right but if you want it to be

really bad then i mean if you don't sign my league will so you go with uh what was it quarterback

last year the rain when yours when yours yeah you're you're gonna be a three win football team you

could probably wind up with the number one pick in the draft so i'm not eat it for one year no

that's what i i mean i i thought that when they made that deal for willis that what i had heard

is because waddle was named those mentioned quite a bit last year is that they they believe that

waddle in h-hand were kind of their two foundational pieces and that they would move forward with them

and then i guess you know the deal was too good to pass up they'll draft a rookie wide receiver

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ruf dr healing that's where i wanted that's where i want to see train yeah right i'm like rocky

with a side of beef there and then i come here and it's like oh now look at the glory that you

get right you don't want to i don't want you to get soft no you know what i mean like this is like

oh look it's like lapeluxery let's have lunch left have a couple cocktails i don't need you drinking

i need you focused raw eggs i'm very proud i'm a little concerned about you and the hamstring

today i'll be all right i'm gonna probably just have for you a bottle of adville i'll be good

i also want to see rj play today i can't wait to see this little nugget yeah yeah i think there's

a separate court for his size no i think you play maybe you play a half court rj like you just

use like the one side rj you play on a normal high score right like you're considered a normal size

human you know what the hard bar does what the hard bar does all these people think you're you're

good guys i'm a great guy you're not i'm a great guy well okay let me ask you this one i did you

good what did i what did i do where did rj stay last night he stayed at uh jakes 58 long long

right do you think that did i get a text message oh you know there was there were gatherings

i got no text message i don't know what time you didn't i didn't know time you're showing up you

decided to take a nap all i need it was a hey on my way see here's what he needs and i have

learned this over the years dawn is very much the same way they need the invitation so they could

turn it down just say no yeah how dare you that's exactly right was with me last night we would

have come seen rj i find that very hard to what do you mean we were ready we were ready to mingle

last night there was a whole gathering of us there was like eight of us but who is there i don't

know anything about this well you just weren't invited so i wasn't invited but rick would have

been invited but wasn't invited by proxy who is the ringleader what happened did it get wild

it did not get wild why i mean Jefferson might have wild rj had a presidential suite what multiple

televisions two TVs yeah but it looked like you had to kind of like configure yourself in a certain

area so you could see both TV there was only like a like a four foot radius where you could see both

TVs clearly yeah but and the lake games weren't great by the way by the way yeah i didn't want to have

to bring this up but because he's such a nasty little guy okay i was i was watching um a podcast

the other day in watching a podcast well you can't it's you know is that does that seem crazy

that you can watch it with that's i knew exactly right okay so they have the video portion of the

actual podcast right yes so darren peng you remember the goalie darren pengar yes black hawks exactly

right yes so he was telling a story when he was taking the bus back in juniors so they went to a

hotel right after a long bus trip didn't have enough hotel rooms for everybody so we had to sleep

on the bus what do you think that darren peng's up on the bus he slept uh in the carts like the overhead

the luggage the rest the overhead my first thought was me be a good soul to offer the air

greater than rj no oh no rj's like two inches tall than there really at least yeah i think the

pengar's like five five really yeah it was amazing you're pushing five eight yeah close really

that's not terrific i'm so i'm very pleased to hear that what why you laughing because you

you talked to me like i'd like i just made a good life choice or control this i still think we

stretch his legs out that's on the table no i thought the guy the other day did it he's like six

two now i don't think it ends well well he still he doesn't walk right do they have 40 years of

research with this if they did it would extend you you don't want to be extended you're fine the way

you are i think you're terrific we could make your legs as long as gabby's if we wanted to i think

we could do it i don't think that would end well for me i think well it didn't end well for

life before i could say that i told you right now that you lose a year of life yep but you are

six two oh yeah you would take a year of life away oh yeah do you know what he would be at six

two he'd be a weapon what would he he couldn't use it for good anymore he's a dirty marry he's got

a child another child on the way he'd be a man missile if he was six two but he can't he can't

tell you right now for good it could only be yeah right but evil at this point yeah but i mean

just moving forward right i can have all kinds of cool things i guess you can get to pick up

basketball game and play power forward i could probably do things you could do i could probably

don't he could don't you probably could i mean and you wouldn't be able to keep your hands off of him

yeah but that's that she'd be like oh look at this tall man problem now by the way i heard

i heard john was giving all his uh his advice to those he was giving rides back and forth yeah

and he was listen here's what you want to do if you want this money get here's what you do it

it's great you know what yeah if you should be a story some kind of a like a i don't know a class

class yeah a program i feel like if you drive in his car you're pregnant like so i would say

that i would i would probably stay away from the vehicle um so you would give up a year of life

to be six two yeah yeah really who would you give six six pack i'm i'm no he doesn't want to see

doesn't want to six pack six pack abs rest your life he doesn't even want that now that's

totally overrated no i don't i don't don't you want to give something back to Sherry at some point

yeah well not not my life she could have George Clooney and she got stuck with you i mean there's

they they they but i'm not giving up years of my life it's only a year if i have 20 now i'm

giving up one giant giant super bowl oh here we go that's different giant super bowl and six pack

abs i don't need the abs gotta give up two years of your life two years of my life one super bowl

yep what year you want to get to peto well here's the thing am i a drooling vegetable thing in

like if you're feeding me through a straw how you like manage you like manage any you're 96 you

got a girlfriend i go nine i go 96 you're going to guarantee me 96 yes i'll give up a year very

healthy still playing pickleball too really pickleball haven't yeah good years right here good years

you got love oh this is the the great indoor facility and the standard you know yeah but you

got to give up one of those years one year yeah giant super bowl now i lived to 95 yep yep yeah

and you've already seen four of them that's an amazing part yeah but they you wouldn't understand

something like this they never get old like the they are unbelievable i imagine it wasn't meant

to be i imagine it's like if if you're marrying for a second time yeah you're excited about the

second marriage right are you really you don't think people when they get married for a second time

are excited about that marriage what do you mean no i guess in the moment yeah does the excitement

go down just a little bit every time right like is this a great idea right maybe i'm just not

great how many how many times have you seen the cat was with the super bowl i've seen them when

three times in my lifetime what was the third one amazing it was fantastic okay right but you

did a super bowl is differently getting remarried yeah i think it's a little different how what

mean how i mean do i need to list the with the ways of helping because you can sell it because you

can celebrate i'm not even kidding if you're for john is super bowl oh my god over almost anything

i think you would take the super bowl well he i can celebrate i can celebrate all the no no no i

could celebrate all the super bowls together as as you know as a joy thing i can't celebrate two

or three separate marriages to celebrate just their individual moments of life it's like saying oh

RJ you have Antonio you're gonna have another baby it's just you lump them together you can't lump

them together they're individual beautiful moments i guess we've already said you didn't want

Alex i mean this is going now i'm happy with him or he's not happy look how that turned out you

didn't want him and now look how that turned out and we couldn't be closer although i was very

unhappy you didn't seem too close yesterday i yelled at him yesterday to lacrosse game i

how about this i left my home during the college basketball to go watch out explain it as

scrimmage wow that's the level of parenting i'm working with right now i mean it's such a low bar

that you just you just jumped over and it's just son i wasn't happy with how he played so he walks

into the house after the game and he's like hey dad hey Dylan i was like what do you want

is like what do you mean i was like what what's going on what's what's the issue here so between

being chastised by his father and the North Carolina being knocked out of the tournament

you're going to come home your key's not going to work today right no it's like that i scored two

goals i was like yeah my expectations of you are higher than your expectations of yourself

yeah but you knew going into yesterday they had a he had a big North Carolina game you couldn't

talk to him up a little bit i don't i don't care no listen with the amount of time she's so

sergeant trained you know what it's like the great centini i have expectations of what i think

he should be able to do and if he doesn't live up to them i'm not going to sugar this guy took

his shirt right off yeah he really did let's go how about that that's my kind of party and at that

no your kind of party would be if she took her shirt oh stop stop then it would be the play stop one

of it stop Jefferson clapping he's a great audience have i like i'm a big fan of Jefferson i think

if we did things proper like everyone else heard that line and they're like uh Jefferson like

yeah just like that yeah it's like yeah that's right he really is a true i think you just heard

this you at least Jefferson who you would have been looking for on the way to a first marriage yeah

he's who you would have been looking for i see that working out really well yeah yeah everybody

went their own way last night back to the room da da Jefferson for all the here i'm in the floor

he said he went to the casino and he was gambling at the casino and didn't understand how to play

and lost quite a bit of money yeah that's how you know but he's insane but he's comes from wealth

yeah it's fungible so what's right right so if you have that much like i don't even need to learn to play

i'll just i'll lose some money to be fun it's just it's fun it's like arja says fun cute

that's all it is you're in two weeks he know where he's gone he's going to guess the right yeah

it's gonna have some pimento cheese sandwiches but you don't find that a little bit strange that he

was gambling and didn't understand the parameters he loves the thrill yes but he didn't even understand

what the thrill was imagine the thrill got you you got it you got an ace oh is that good is that good

is that not good but imagine when the hand is complete and now you see well they take my chips

or it's a fair point he doesn't know take my money play my cards that's pretty much what he's doing

you know what he reminds me and he's kind of cramer-esque yes you think i agreed yeah he's kind of

got that that cramer thing going it's funny you said that i was watching bloopers last night so

like for whatever reason across my uh what were you watching my timeline my algorithm which is not

great is somehow in it with bloopers and they were showing signpost bloopers remember the

signpost episode where cramer decided you want to start smoking pipes in the hallway and it put

then he pops in a jerry's well you look like a catcher's mitt oh yeah that was the bloopers from

that right just he couldn't keep a straight face the entire time i've seen it a million times he's

like they took away my twinkly yes i mean it is unbelievable uh i could show that was

arjit the best arjit do you believe in my 65 or sooner no no can arjit speak i'm sorry i can speak

for arjit like he said my little puppet well i don't want to be the puppet i'm joking no not yet

no not yet well i you know i was i was on the way over here this morning listen to a podcast

and you aren't watching the podcast no i wasn't watching yes i mean seriously

but we may fight before we even play pickleball you don't want to hurt me before i don't

like a ball slap you hard these these unnamed people who i think know what they're talking about

we're actually talking about one of their favorite lines right now on the over underboard is giant's

under oh really under the seven and a half yeah okay i that's the first time i've heard that

because most like we're watching this piano today what i'm like seeing is very ballad this

the team is going to be one of those teams that doesn't make the put that finishes last

in the division and makes the play the hard part is you're talking about only winning a superball

like my team's been as close as anyone's team over the last ten years that's the thing

getting better it's like it's so easy i never said it was easy yeah you're making it sound easy

no one's four games mazi i think you could win the division or you could win playoff games

but if the line is super baller nothing then that's hard it's hard to take for anybody that's not

the chiefs really it's it's better balls ever one the right one i think i've seen four

i've been to five why would i accept anything rather than winning the whole thing i understand

i'm not this like you know fan of a team it's like oh just getting all the messed up questions

is it is it what you meant is a shot in here for you to talk about like that he takes it like that

at least addressing me if you're gonna talk about it that sounds like a shot i'm sorry your mouth

is it 65 or sooner because harbors only signed for five years yes that's okay so that's why yes

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i just i don't think it's crazy to think within a five year span this team has a real chance to

in the super bowl and and that's an expectation and i would be highly disappointed if they didn't do

it and stand by it right but here's the thing though i mean you're starting at i don't think you're

starting a grounds here i don't believe in the quarterback i don't believe it but he's going

into year two okay so right so let's have a can we see what he looks like in year two because

there've been plenty of quarterbacks most i mean most recently jaden daniel's who go into year two

was i mean the expectations couldn't be higher right and it i mean they won i mean between injuries

and everything i stand up one in five games right now he was hurt i understand that but that

happens right you're also talking about a quarterback that's all we talk about is can he stay healthy

so i mean can he can he modify his game a little bit but why why would i choose when i finally

have a glimmer of hope like i said like i'm in the ton i'm like wait a minute is that light at the

end of this thing and the answer is yes why would i choose well if he stays healthy i know what can

happen i understand but i just i i'm happy that you're excited i just think that when you put such

high expectations on it you're going to set yourself up like there's so much pressure now that you

put it on this whole thing okay which is fine i mean there is a privilege i want the pressure okay but

so point i'm trying to make is this before we go to break is giants won four games okay if you want

to count the last two but in saying that you also recognize that there were plenty of like there

were a handful of games that they should have won right they probably should have won six or seven

games last year right but when you look at just the NFC right now how many teams would you say

are further along in the process i'm not saying your division i'm just in general uh i mean i

don't off top my head you have to walk me through right i mean i think i don't want to do on the other

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are not as ex i don't want to say excited because that's not fair but i i think there's this this

belief that this is going to be an awful awful team and maybe no i don't think it's i don't know

well let's get into it after the break but i don't think it's an it's an awful team i think it's like

what are we exactly doing uh i think that's fair and i think also it's hard to get excited with a

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