Hour 1: Derek Carr and the Jets?

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1:01you call me rise and shine with 8 a.m. this is drop time we provide highlights from your favorite teams got David Rick making plenty of picks at rule 76 oh yeah oh hello DNR with you ESPN New York as we roll along on this well thought of football Friday but it is in fact the Friday and the weather is starting to get a little warmer and baseball you can smell that in the air and you know I don't see you can smell and I mean this in a positive way my friend my compadre my compatriot the great grossa good morning Dan grossa how are you I hope it's not a a foul stench no you get smell me no I met that in like like pheromones like pheromones that's what I'm gonna go leave the most positive of ways not odoriferous emanations no no not a little bit how are you my friend I'm good I'm good yeah there you go little sniff sniff yeah things are good little crummy this morning out there with the weather you know when that happens when you get over an inch of rain but

2:02things are good how about you uh things are good yeah enjoy the Friday I enjoyed the the roast of the Friday I enjoy the place of the week on the Friday and I I enjoyed the weekend so so here we let me tell you something about this roast yeah all right I'm not gonna clog it all up you know I'll give you the one I can easily come at you with two or three today including one that happened even on the drive in this morning just just today just today wow like I mean think about it I've only been up for I don't know what a couple hours already something boom something is something has happened yep I think RJ would back me up on it too because he knows about it did RJ have to experience this no no no no no no RJ are my arrived in your annoyance because you told him yes because I think that RJ can can get the hint of what I was getting got you yeah got you I actually had a roast locked away last Saturday last Saturday incidents incident happened and as

3:04it's happening in real time I'm thinking to myself there it is there there's the roast can I be honest with you this is why it's like it's spooky like the similarities my roast last Saturday as well really I'm why would I lie why would you lie why would I lie the only the the only thing I'll say and Matt it just imagine a world if it was the same roast no I couldn't it couldn't possibly be creepy I mean if it was then then I'm just getting up and leaving because then it's it's too crazy but I even said to my wife when it happened I said you know what this is the roast and I said the same thing to my wife this is the roast this is on and I mentioned it to the guys on Monday in passing but I don't believe they remember it nor should they and I will bring it back at 745 so we got a lot to do there's a lot of things little things to get into at the end of the show yesterday you would you would have been so proud of me yeah stood my ground I got attacked by two of the three people on the show why I'll tell you why because I said

4:10and I'm sure they don't have the audio because that'll be buried you'll never find that now I said I can't wait for agency gets rolling on Monday and Rick Monday and then get rolling on Monday it gets rolling on Wednesday in that Monday Wednesday and then Raymond chimes in yeah it's Wednesday it's not Monday and then they looked it up and then they had to eat some clothes they're like oh it starts on Monday sorry Dave I'm surprised at Ray like Rick there's no surprise at all but like Ray because Ray's a football purist like he knows as much as anybody as you as me that by the time you know what high noon hits on Monday or whatever the tampering period answers you're gonna have you're gonna have deals already not official but you're gonna have deals right because all these deals have been carved out for the last however many weeks whether you know conversations at the back room of St. Elmo's at the combine where agents meet with GM's and so on and so forth like this this is all in the works it's all in the works but in fact by the time you get to Wednesday right there's nothing right it's like if you go to to the turkey after

5:14Thanksgiving's been happening for five hours this little bits left maybe maybe get a little bit of white meat maybe your forced to have the dark meat maybe it's a leg available but it's not a full not a full bird at that point right the leftover Thanksgiving meal on on Sunday night for dinner to end the long weekend like that's that's what Wednesday Thursday is why I I felt very vindicated I felt somewhat embarrassed for those two guys because you should are I mean do you even understand football Dave like it it gets started on Wednesday I was like no no you know it's fun like you could make an argument like the two most important days are Monday and Tuesday not even Wednesday and oh I don't even think there's a debate not even a clue and not even a debate so um let's start thinking into it RJ told me something I haven't even talked to you about this yet no but RJ mentioned how do you know that we haven't talked about this yet because I don't think you and I have spoken probably and at least over a week maybe two maybe last I saw you you you last RJ last I saw

6:14him he looked looked like he just lost a family member poor Dan Grasso last I saw him all that's right was how many weeks he was that he that was last week was in his car for four and one half hours making his way into the studio and if he like if you didn't I believe that was true but if you didn't believe it was true when you saw what this man looked like he when he walked through that door RJ you knew that he had just spent a good amount of time in his car well I was I was trying to get some of the shake down because I I obviously wasn't here that day so I was talking him about and and that's it this will be up to him you weren't here this that day uh I don't remember he was he was he was oh that's what you were stuck on the turnpike he and I use air quotes he was stuck in Florida everyone was stuck wherever they were at on that day but continue RJ and that leads into one of his his perspective roast I don't know if he'll choose this but I was trying to get the the shake down on what actually happened with the tunnel that day maybe there'll be a 30 for

7:1730 on it and here the hard part this happens there'll be a four hours for four hours this happens in New York sometimes with a tri-state sometimes you just don't move and you never really find out why yep but so you think it'll be one of those like I had tremendous traffic I missed half my show and I don't really know why well yeah we don't know why were you were you be honest now because I've been in the situation this is a terrible thing to say but I'll be honest because I'm an honesty broker were you hopeful at some point you would pass a mangling I like where where we're like oh like oh look at that car oh look oh yeah because you want an answer awful like you want a reason for it right and not just I'm sitting in park for two hours like tell me why that you have no real idea no of why it took you four and a half hours to get so much so how about this the guys even like reached out to Debbie traffic Debbie yeah yeah I just to find out like if there was anything reported nothing nothing how what was total commute time four hours and what

8:20it was like thirty four hours I've I've never heard of that no literally on her for 20 maybe right when I walk in it was a little after that like eleven twenty five yeah from a general tri-state location to another one I've never heard of and again Dan for the record I do not believe that you were you know did anything wrong but I have it in my I'm going to be 53 next week I lived in North Carolina for five years yeah so in my forty eight years of living here in the tri-state I I can confidently tell you it has never ever ever taken me four plus hours to get on any trip ever and not only that I would say not even close to four hours no you mean both and I mean I'm talking getting in and out of the city when there's legitimate like you know congestion traffic destruction you know we're shutting down one of the lanes on the helix we're shutting down a lane in the tunnel well you know with late at night you know you crawl you know that's a little bit like not four hours no no close no I would leave the station and it would take me a long time

9:26to get home it would probably take me I know two hours like a long time coming in at that time a bad day bad like at that time driving in is an hour and a half and that's a bad day right if I would have told you two hours ago that's some trip right four plus no it's unheard of well I mean and that day you know how long it took me to get home I think door to door yeah uh 52 minutes 28 minutes that's what I mean I love that and I was documenting it along the way like I was taking pictures of me like not moving and cars and break lights all around and sending them to John and everybody we work with animals and RJ I don't even think you heard this there were people at the station that were not really believing of your traffic situation and then we're mocking you and saying you know what's happened here he's behind parked cars he has gone in a lane where he's behind parked cars five lanes of them and I was like no the guy's not an idiot yeah I don't think he's behind I could have just easily stayed home and just said yeah I'm going to do the show from

10:27home now what and what I do and I and I do want to get to the jets because I have questions for you but what I do not understand is what and John was trying to explain this and it really didn't make sense to me maybe you can explain it because you were in the in the battle right why at any point did you not give up turn around go home and do the show from your house because it was physically impossible unless I had like a Jetson's vehicle or a Transformers vehicle and I could press a button and all of a sudden the tires disappear and then like you know the propellers come out and my car then gets up literally in a parking lot on the road and can fly you had to at some point pass exits like I was saying I was dead stopped for two hours go this is back in Jersey this is literally like five minutes from my house on a normal day five minutes just to try to get on the turnpike and I was on a two lane road the left of me was sender blocks so you can't go through those right you can't the dividers right can't do that then there was the right lane and nobody was moving

11:28in the right lane so where was I going yeah I just think if you would have gotten off next exit turned around and and gone home that maybe you would have made it but it doesn't matter made it you made it you made it you made it it you know it's great and I don't know if you realize this yeah because I was listening to the show on my way home and at one point in the 12 o'clock hour I believe you uttered the phrase well this show is rolling along today the show was the easy part show was the fun part the activating part was over bar to treat by the way huh oh yeah he tried he tried to numerous times he tried to get me to fall for one of his hey go here you won't get in trouble I was like uh it's bad enough that I got to do with Rick every day I'm not I'm not falling for this with you now and then the ironic part is the next day he had issues connecting wherever he was and I was the one that was he because the next day obviously there was no problems getting in of course his fate would have it like it was like every other day just came in no problem I was going to have to hold the show down

12:30so and I'm sure you did it beautifully so I'm talking to RJ before the show and the more I read the more people I talk to the more I believe that the Vikings and Kyler Murray might wind up being the fit which I don't think is all that awful for the jets anyway tell the people because I was surprised by this tell the people who you would like as the jet start in quarterback on opening day I don't think I'm married to one okay in particular but there's like a couple that I that I wouldn't mind well RJ told me and I was given maybe some misinformation no I don't think the cracks he said you are in the Derek Carr camp of that's who you want the jets quarterback to be yeah I'd take a flyer on that I would take a flyer on that because ultimately you know in a perfect world whether it's this year which looks weird things happen you can never forecast stuff in the NFL right this year next year if indeed he gives way to whatever young quarterback of the future is ultimately going to take over I don't think you're going to have a problem you know I don't think it's going to ruffle any feathers in the locker room right I mean he's he's you know he's coming out of retirement

13:33literally he knows this is like you know his his last chance just to kind of like you know be involved again um and I think he realizes if you look he's still he puts up these numbers he's still a productive quarterback now as far as we remember we haven't seen him in a minute right absolutely I mean I don't think he's lost at that much from being out for a year now remember what forced him to retire was he had a bad shoulder injury so you got to hope that I don't know if he had the surgery to fix it or to clean it up or whatever but remember like that that's what forced him into retirement so he has to check all the boxes there you know that but guys like if you could swing a deal for somebody like Jacobi percent I wouldn't mind that whatsoever I like percent I think percent is I'll say what I think he is I think he is a great backup quarterback in this league fair enough if I have Jacobi were set as my backup quarterback I feel really good about it and if I have to go through a season where he's my starter and a season that I'm okay like not not being a really good football team and I think here's the disconnect and here and lies the problem and it is if you are the jets the coach needs to win games correct the GM

14:41is probably okay not winning games but if you bring in a Kyler Murray I don't think Derek cars in this realm but maybe he is I don't think so if you bring in a Kyler Murray are you now too good that you're going to win you know if the jets do well in free agency and and the jets draft well and they don't take a quarterback and they like four picks at the top 44 they get some real talent and you bring in a quarterback that's like a Kyler Murray are you a seven win football team see it's funny to say too good with I mean what's Kyler Murray ever one he's taking the car onto the post once okay but he's a with the Cardinals but that those teams under like you could say they underachieved remember the Kingsbury teams they got off to great starts the first two two and a half months and then whittled down the stretch the team a couple of years ago that absolutely embarrassed the jets when they went out there and like early November that looked like a team that was poised to do something they faded down the stretch so I like I kind of chuckle when you say you know too good what when I say too good I mean seven wins I mean do you do you if

15:43if one of these if it's more if it's sellers if it's you you know if it's archman you you name it right if that guy has a sensational year in college football and comes out are you gonna win seven games and be able to get anywhere that's the problem well I mean what then what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have to get creative with your draft capital because you got the three first rounders now you don't ultimately want to use those to maneuver up or down the board right you want to be a man how about when the Giants picked what was it fifth a couple years back sick whenever they had the Middle League neighbors pick right yeah and there was all those quarterbacks in that draft and they desperately wanted either Jay Daniels or Drake May and they made big offers and they just couldn't get them it depends on who's picking at the front of the draft right right well right but my point you know you know it would eliminate all and I don't know if you could do it like I don't know if Jets fans would sign up for this I don't know if you can do it I know if the owner will if you wind up and I don't think the coach can afford it and that that becomes the problem if you wind up winning four games and you get the first or second pick in this draft now you don't

16:45have to worry about any of that that sounds familiar by the way then it's not familiar because this is the same conversation we had last year about the Giants going into the draft and the season the season rather right they will needs like what are they going to give way to Jackson Dart you have Russell Wilson you have James Winston but the coach needs to win games right coach needs to win games yeah it's the same exact conversation we had a year ago but the Giants see here's a difference the Giants had that ace in the whole of well even if things go poorly which they did with Russell Wilson who was terrible outside of that you know a blip during that Cowboys game they had the guy that everyone was clamoring for and when you saw that guy he was terrific right now if the jets don't draft Thai Simpson and they get like here's the problem you cannot for the well draft Thai Simpson sit him for a year and then let's see well how can you do that how can you draft Thai Simpson sit him for a year going to next year is draft with a pretty good pick and a quarterback rich draft we think and have no idea what you've just drafted you can't do that no you can't do

17:48that one of two things are then going to end up happening it's they pull a Giants 2004 to where let's say if they play inspired football for the first eight nine weeks yep they're going to have no matter what you're moving on they have to yank corner and and put in Eli Manning or you have almost a repeat of what happened this past year that they're just are got awful with whatever veteran quarterback it is that at some point Thai Simpson or whatever rookie it is becomes this year's version of Brady cook and then he just plays the last five six games of the season right I mean listen you have options but the thing is it doesn't feel like everyone's pulling in the same direction no definitely not and you know like I love it and I hate this time of year you would agree right just because it's like all these rumors all these rumblings all these possibilities like I'm more I'm more love it than hate it but I understand your point and that's the cool thing about next week like once we get into free agency like that's going to help solve some of these riddles a little bit because we don't know what's going to happen right like we have we can sit here and speculate well this guy to this team this guy to this team like that quarterback puzzle some of those

18:51things are going to be answered here by this time maybe a week from now oh absolutely right which which will clear some things up like for example you know with the jets with the mock drafts like what do they do with 16 you know like there's some people that are advocating that they take that guard from Penn State who's the best interior lineman in the draft and okay they have a live here with Tucker and John Simpson is free agents of both of those guys are ex jets by the time the draft rolls around then you got to lend credence to maybe taking a guard with that system right right this will be it won't it won't finish the puzzle but like if the giants were to land Rico doubt or Kenneth Walker I think it eliminates any any option of taking Jeremiah love in the draft right correct I don't like that anyway but that's going to be a speculation like if they don't do much or anything at running back now because they they want and this is not a smoke screen they want running back right they want to improve that running back room they want to be a ground and pound football team well if they if in free agency they get that running back all right so now you know they're not going to go Jeremiah love right so you can have some answers

19:54even though you won't have all the answers you know when you do a puzzle guy I like a good puzzle sure arts you know it like you get the outside the edges of the puzzle done yes I think next week is the edges of the puzzle that's fair that's fair because look I mean nowadays we we see moves and things that happen into like May June for example you know like for example you know you don't think the Aaron Rogers saga is going to drag into like mini camp again like it did last year doesn't it have to of course it will right doesn't it doesn't it absolutely you know so things like that yeah we which is fine I mean that's just the NFL world now that we live in by the way we haven't talked about this so like right now on March the 6th 619 in the morning 5th pick in the draft what do you want sunny styles I am with you how do you not I liked him very much before the combine after the combine then you read about him and it's like he was the leader of that defense I would be fine with downs like I could live in a world where it was Caleb downs I want sunny styles you might have three guys from that defense going to top 10 and think about it and and

20:58and the receiver to and the receiver and and that's why like even though he didn't put up gawdy numbers that night like that also was another feather in the cap I think to Fernando Mendoza that he beat that you know he won a slugfest he took a beating and he made some really good throws and remember the first or what it was at first or second play the game but I did yeah that was the almost the almost the end of them and those are so isn't isn't nice start I like this quick time out some breakfast until you want to know about Kodiak frozen power waffles and flapjacks are built for busy mornings heated eat it and you're out the door no long prep no complicated game plan they're packed with 12 to 14 grams of protein per serving a good source of fiber and crafted with 100 percent whole grains not refined white flour so you're getting something that actually fuels you and there's depth on the roster buttermilk and vanilla blueberry chocolate chip even gluten free options breakfast that delivers snack that delivers find Kodiak frozen waffles and flapjacks in the frozen aisle at your local grocery store they're the ones with the

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23:23espniarch is taking over Kalandra's Italian villages all the well New Jersey Wednesday March 18th then join dhr that's Don Hahn and Rosenberg live starting at three o'clock with a special happy hour stick around for the Rangers and Devils watch party with a seven o'clock pop job how cool is that you watch with the voice of the devils reservations recommended to book your table 973 226 8889 it's 973 226 8889 see Don Hahn and Rosenberg live at Kalandra's Italian village in Caldwell, New Jersey Wednesday March the 18th starting at three p.m. So we have a lot to get into today we got some Ian Begley sound which I don't understand Raymond is like excited by this sound excited oh I know why because he and I were texting yesterday and I and when I look at the slug here I think it kind of goes in line with what we were texting about okay but we'll get into that we continue

24:24with the NFL free agency which which drops on Monday can I tell you this to about the NFL and you may or may not agree with me but like I think we're both in the same vein like we love football oh I love it and like it's to me growing up and again this is a pre-internet world where we didn't have you know countless amounts of media and coverage like we do now right all you have to do is like snap your finger and you get you're inundated with it the NFL offseason to me felt the long it felt like an eternity when you were kid when I was a kid it felt like an eternity and you would take well it's the by far it's the longest offseason by far the longest and remember the season ended earlier then the super balls were always in January right I mean when we were kids we're not we're talking about this there's no there's no buys no but no 17 games and if your team was garbage like your season was effectively over in December or you don't get back at a till September right so like it was always so bitter sweet to me like the night of the Super Bowl I remember it was just it was awful but you would take any crumb any newspapers and anything like for football and so to

25:27me point being I can't believe we're here ready at free agency like it is flown to free agency yeah I don't feel I don't I don't feel like you don't feel like that no I mean February to me and I've said this numerous February to me is is a death month as well maybe because we got so much stuff going on other stuff going on but it's I can't believe we're in March already because remember the Super Bowl goes and you know what first second week of February I will next year balls like February eighth now yeah and we had the Olympic stunk super ball basketball is just starting to heat up I know you had the Olympics this year but I'm not Olympic sky outside of watching the hockey so I don't know well the football I mean the hockey in the basketball keep us busy you know we we do that and you know I'm watching the college hoops regardless so oh I love that's different I mean I think it's fair to say you meet Carlin biggest college basketball fans at the station and for some reason and I'm not quite sure why Don and Michael they they mock the

26:29college basketball that's a good promo for their big east show next what is it next Friday right well well you know I'm a Georgetown fan how could you be a joy you didn't go there I'm like not well that's I mean that is that mocking college basketball or mocking people who mock are they not are Jay well they they just they they think anybody that's really into college basketball if you didn't go to that school you don't really have that right and now that's weird yeah well divide doesn't have a team if you went there you know I didn't go to the divide I'm saying to some people to do though well I don't I mean who who are they I don't know to judge who I root for and don't root for do you think the old I would probably say and that's okay because I think the overwhelming majority of fans root for schools slash teams that they did not go to school at I would say mo I mean you went to Rutgers so that's a natural I don't think Raymond's really college basketball fan Argy went to Brockport I'm sure division three he hopes the Brockport team does well but are are Jesus Syracuse fan I'm a I'm a Georgetown fan because when I'm nine years old I watched

27:32Patrick Ewing and Georgetown take on Virginian Ralph Samson and I I fell in love with the hoys I don't play me I mean that was a super power back then the Georgetown team was like my one of my earliest college basketball members yeah and look and look what they are now look look at how the mighty of falling I'll tell you Ed Cooley has a lot of enemies in the sport like he's not the most popular guy and I didn't think it would be this difficult form for a couple of years and he knows my sister his his his previous gig providence that's going to be an opening here in another week yes Kim England is on the way out but but no one I think most people don't probably want to hear about that anyhow we do throughout this is what this is what they want to hear what are you hearing Jeremy about when it comes to Kyler and to a Minnesota Vikings I know he is in their first batch of quarterback options that they're looking at I would call it tier one there will be a second team that gets involved eventually will it be the jets could it be the Atlanta Falcons who need a bit of a bridge with Michael Pennex still heard coming up that knee issue then you got two a tongue out by Loa this one's a bit more clear cut because of the 54 million dollars on the books it's just going to be near impossible to trade him in fact the dolphins might need to give

28:35up draft picks just to facilitate a trade at the end of the day they could take that 99 million dollar cap hit as a post June first cut yeah if they decide to do that and then look I think they'll have a bridge option somewhere but due to the lack of arm strength compared to some of these other options he could have some trouble being at the top of the heap in this pecking order so you don't want to right you can't envision him on the jets truth be told I was not paying attention to what Jeremy was saying because Ray and I were exchanging comments so let me ask you this yeah you you knew that we were playing a cut from Jeremy but but to be fair what do you mean what do you mean what do you mean no well no I knew we were playing it right so did you not think when we returned from the Jeremy Fowler cut we might discuss what what he said there's a very overwhelming strong possibility but but like let's say if I was in the car and I was listening to this I would tune out well then because like I don't really care what he's saying and and then like to give it context Ray and I were having a legit conversation about Montclair State basketball because they were undefeated at one point they were and they were number one in division three and I actually brought that to raise attention a couple times but not but not but not right there right

29:40like that's a difference like yes I think that's good conversation I would have been happy spending a couple minutes on that at any point during the show just as we were playing Fowler coming back to react off that I find that to be an interesting one I heard the tail end of it and I heard the two apart and then you set it up and I can give you an opinion on two in the six days you know six days of the week twice on Sunday if you want you don't want any part of it I mean there now again here's where I might get myself into trouble and I'm gonna give you a layup here maybe Jeremy Fowler mention this it's so bad and I blame Ray as well no don't blame Ray he's his own person on my own person I made the choice to engage conversation I blame I blame both of you no I blame you leave Ray out of it I blame you and I also blame Ray because Ray should have said to you hey listen like the teacher in class like listen pay attention you know what he should have slapped you right on the wrist and said hey gosh you should blame yourself me because you're going to brought this conversation since it's a it's a forefront who did so to say we were I was a pain

30:42attention to college basketball I didn't even brought up the D3 bracket now it's mentioned it's a damn you know what the fact that you the fact that you could possibly put any blame on me it's all your for this it just it just shows that you really have some I don't think it's on you at all but outside with you on this one how in the how in the RJ how in the world is that my fault this would never have happened if you hadn't brought oh my god now Rick is typically the great deflector I even think Rick would own this one you're gonna blame me not that this is a minute's prior I brought up college basketball I accept no blame whatsoever there was actually seconds prior you know there was an old Rutgers walk on who was now starring on that Montclair team oh really yes I might explain a couple things there you go and apparently seven the time of his life in Montclair having the time was like still in Jersey everything is you know near each other is you know how how could how could Ray how could you blame me very easily how I want to hear how I just told you you brought the conversation to the forefront all I was doing was you're having a bad you

31:45haven't a bad you didn't wow you dismissed you totally dismissed me in the in the conversation you were just having you know why I didn't mention it because you don't like college basketball it's still my school days you have no you have no engine but no you don't like college basketball no he doesn't like I'm not I'm not big I'm not big on the heart is pierced the hardest he's really interesting car basketball he is a football guy I know you could be so my purest and that any any any checks it at the door that's it yeah don't apologize just like I'm not apologizing for this now let me ask you questions is a terrible attack do you do you want to move on or do you want to hold on one sec let me look at the screen okay it was 37 seconds now you're going to have to subject the audience to 30 so I'm not planning again I will I will not know why would I do that that's it's because the two of you have your own agenda the full comprehensive Jeremy no no no no no I will not do that I will not subject no I will not do that do you want

32:47an unsolicited opinion on the two of tongue of hello I don't care apart from what Jeremy Fowler said sure all right here's the thing everybody and their mother in the NFL knows that the dolphins are going to cut them right yes because like what moron would trade for a guy in that contract no more nobody I mean it was it's argue it might be the worst contract in the NFL right now and and I knew it at the time when they when they signed them I was like well this is not going to of course because it's a gimmick offense and the way the team was built down there the conditions have to be proper and and the new people in charge there now know you can't win that way and that's why they're remaking this team being a little bit more physical you know knowing that hey we're not going to play games where it's 75 and sunny and we're going to have to play ground and pound and smash mouth football to win games especially late in the year anyway if they actually find a taker for that contract it's so bad there's talk that the dolphins might have to kick in like a high draft pick along with two uh yeah but they're not gonna do that I know they're not going to but I'm saying that's what it might take yeah Jeremy Fowler mentioned that or no yeah he did yeah

33:49no I didn't I see I think that's why I said I gave you a layup I gave you a layup of course he did he said it's so bad I think he actually I think what you just said that RJ verbatim man I can't what I'm going to do RJ RJ might not have been paying attention to Jeremy Fowler no I was what I'm going to do because I'm a little nervous because he was it truth be told I would like to try to get Shaftar or Fowler from Monday or Tuesday why why would we have him because I mean we'll ask questions to Jeremy Fowler and then no one will send the answers that's a fair point I'm thinking of and nothing against Jeremy by the way I'm thinking of just opening the door proactively saying listen Jeremy this may get back to you this does not reflect the view of everyone we care for you and we're sorry now there's care like I legit care now nothing against him at all it's just that moment I'm going to talk to college master you produce the show you're the adult in the room you didn't think to tell the two of these guys who are chattering away hey listen to the cut I thought that they would they would multitask I have faith

34:52in them to do so apparently a choice was made how do you feel about Raymond's attacking me for them not listening to the cut well I think I think Raymond is more so just lashing out about something different we you disregarded his school he took that personal I said it was like college basketball yeah but like he said it's his school but I started with you on the Fowler situation I'm troubled by it I'm saddened by it I don't think I'll ever come on the show again I come on the show it's been a couple times well that that's over we definitely have had him at least I can call that much Jeremy feller I don't know if you know this from the appearances on TV because I saw my jet camp once no what I'm going to say what I'm going to say you're a loose cannon like you're replacing Rick doesn't mean you need to act like Rick I'm on a lot of cold medicine today buddy so anything might come out no very surprised first time I met him at training camp when you're like obnoxiously tall what's obnoxiously tall like a lot taller than you thought that Jeremy Fowler would be he's and that goes back that goes back to my my argument I've made

35:53for years you can be too tall yeah I think I want to say and I could be wrong it's been a few years I want to say six three six four all right let me bring this up quickly we'll break come back get to your calls get to more NFL jets giants all of it if I offered you right now you're you're what's the wait I just brought up somebody's height like I can't wait for what this offer for a second okay yeah and I'll tell you you're 19 years old you're 19-year-old Dan Grouse your seven feet four inches tall you're taking it not seven four not see give me seven you take seven feet tall yes seven four like those extra four inches I'm telling you equals like major major like foot problems in your life foot problems I mean the blood can't get to the brain what's what I'm saying well I mean it starts all there but then like and then it's gonna end your career prematurely so you can if you can take the advantage of it and then you're gonna have like a nine year 60s right so you would take seven feet oh the right not be able to pay for the best funeral

36:55known to man that you're not gonna be able to even enjoy be one hell of a casket but how I mean how like I don't know how special does that have to be I'm not I'm I'm I'm I'm capin' out I want anything above six three I wouldn't want to be one of these like six seven people but like we always joke about and look I'll I was watching the game last night okay college basketball game and I saw a dude and he's like pushing seven feet built like a freaking Mac truck not good at best I say may have an answer for you by the way I've got a I've got a video of Jeremy standing next to Kevin O'Connell yeah Kevin O'Connell is six five and kill who's Kevin O'Connell the coach of the the Viking doesn't need a jet at one point wasn't he a jet quarterback at one point I told you that I didn't see who is this Kevin O'Connell you're talking I didn't sleep less no boy I really don't know how he he's on he's on par with Kevin O'Connell so he's at least six five he's at least six five there you go at least six five I didn't expect that and you know what he's like on the thinner side

37:56so he's like wiry he's like he's very like lanky like almost like a Lincoln minus the top so he's too tall and you won't listen to what he says I you know what maybe because he's too tall I can't hear what he sings it the words take a while to disseminate you know what all right if you don't talk what he's talking also that would help if you're ready for an oil change trust the professional parts people it'll Riley auto parts to recommend the best products for your vehicle right now get five courts of valveline full synthetic motor oil and a wix filter for $35.99 and receive a $15 O'Reilly gift card after rebate upgrade to a wix xp oil filter for just $2 more limits apply see store for details stop by your local O'Reilly auto parts store or shop online at oReillyauto.com when was the last time you felt in control of your business finances expenses tracked invoices sent taxes ready that's where found comes in found brings your banking bookkeeping invoicing and taxes together in one simple app manage expenses invoice clients send payments and prep

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40:59that's done that's done i come already that's that's done Justin feels gone if you want to lose i mean if that's your plan already to like tank and lose games and okay then just like if you're looking for game what there is to do let's do that Justin feels is you will you'll never see him in a jet's uniform again yeah things kind of sourdent stretch as well is that because of what's been going on with with the owner things like that or that is basic ability i think there's a lot there was some things happening remember like late in the year um you know those comments that he made about you know they asked him what would you be open to maybe in some sort of going in is like a and with a gadget type package and he was kind of sourd on that and they kind of thought that maybe he right you know and i got to be honest with you i mean they kind of i think there was some sort of a new and i don't know this to be true i'm this is just my own you know two cents i think there were some sort of a mutual you know handshake behind the scenes agreement hey just tough out the year we won't put you in front of the firing squad because guess what once you got bench pretty much like you never saw him in the locker room the rest of the year i think he may have

42:00done one informal press conference he wasn't even out there talking on on baggy day at the end of the year but already even if you you would want him back in the mix for another season he was it's only for then it's only four games you don't have to go pay other people like you're going to bring what you're going to bring to it in here right or whatever Murray or whichever guy do you believe in high sense in your son oh i have no idea are they trapped in them at 16 don't know i probably not but i don't know if not them see anything else my dude then if you do he's your dart if you don't then you got to go out there and get mad Jones you got to go get somebody because then you are tanking that's what our result you if you look right now i who's got the best chance of getting the number one pick who's getting archmaning it's three teams it's the jets it's the carnels and Miami what do they have in common no quarterback they're thinking they're getting rid of their quarterback and they're going to bring them to us then i don't do that if i don't draft high sense then i go for archmaning so all right they're taking a call

43:05all right well so so he's saying and now i would not do it with Justin Fields but he's saying if if i'm not drafting the quarterback that i'm going to be able to see and watch and grow and develop i want the worst but again this is the the problem you have in this man Aaron Glenn cannot do this no Aaron Glenn cannot go in and say guys three wins archmaning on the other side let's go you got to win game got to win games now now i don't remember with already i already was one of the guys who still was like i think was really like even when it was like bleak as you know what like still a backer of Justin Fields like for for whatever reason even last year like when he lost his job watching Justin Fields try to play the quarterback position last year was up was painful on the eyes after week one right right week one week one there was so much optimism right right right and then the at the fleeting moment in Cincinnati there was so much optimism that people are like how are the bills like five point favorites against the jets in a week

44:07two yeah and then they these big and then them and everyone else then smash the jets moving right and then fields was not even all there that game too because he was no kuku because he got got hit so you know we have the concussion god i can't i could you imagine calling up sports talk radio show me like yeah bring bring back Justin Fields to be the quarterback i'll tell you what it's it's it's it's the point now with Justin Fields that how many more opportunities does he get in the NFL to really compete as a starting quarterback yeah that's what i'm saying i mean think about how many more stops the any how many more you know and i look i like i've said it so many times i liked them personally i really and truly did i thought it was a very but then you need to separate you know of course in the locker no look chat with on a Thursday i i mean i'm not making any you know kind of secrets or like he's yeah he's not the guy he probably is not on this team and i think it will be best for both parties if he's not on the team you got to move on i mean let the he can't be on this team i mean record aside you know bad last year was you know bad it was was awful

45:11i could sooner rat my arms around draft high simpson and have tyra Taylor play the role of Russell Wilson until simpson is better just uh i mean again but all this like he brought up mac Jones like mac the Niners are not training mac Jones they let it be known and if they and maybe they're just saying they are i think you could get mac Jones it's gonna cost you what right but but oh but that thirty third pick is going is going for him guess what though if you trade for mac Jones though he's not your stopgap you're trading for him because you actually think he's going to be your guy for a few years maybe longer which which is insane which isn't i don't just say Jones hey rock parties out i can go to mac Jones awesome awesome and the Niners are not stupid i simpson i can pop in mac Jones because simpson is having a bad game or he's a little banged up great mac Jones is my quarterback for seventeen games no way i mean thing about it the Niners they have a you know super bowl caliber roster you know they've been knocking on the door for a championship

46:12i don't know how many years what's the one thing to tell them back injuries and the quarterback has not been able to stay healthy they look at mac Jones is a valuable insurance policy they're not just gonna give up on him even if it's gonna make it enticing why why in the world would you give up on him by the way um i have a little bit of i believe you could say um vindication for you for me yeah for you yeah um Debbie do haim sent an email she said um i guess this is today six o'clock in the morning little after high arch it was Dan on the jersey turnpike north going into the jersey turnpike extension towards the Holland last Thursday and RJ responds i believe so that's accurate yes it was a third it was Thursday right yeah i think so she says um you can let Dan know there was an issue with trucks exiting on the Newark Bay extension at 14 a on the njt that morning can i tell you some that's the bayonet exit

47:18and when i finally got to that point i don't remember how many hours into my journey it was i did take notice that all those monster trucks because it's like a downward exit they were all kind of spilling back onto the main road which was only a two lane road so i could imagine rush hour volume those giant trucks tying things up that's why we weren't moving debbie's finally good fight and she said it had a ripple effect on the mainline of the new jersey there you go well yeah can i can i say something yeah this might be frowned upon mm-hmm this does us no good now Debbie no it does i mean no no no no it doesn't know this would have been really effective Debbie Thursday yeah not a lot of Thursday it would have been helpful this is almost like you know like a police investigation it's like we need like time to analyze the dna and the evidence and all this stuff like why didn't that why wasn't that information available like a week ago like or like for example like that day when i was searching everywhere the internet social media for anything that would explain the the backup i'm not blaming Debbie i'm just

48:21playing like information in general i think we go after Debbie in a big way why would you do that though because well it's been the case for me like you said because people hurt her job her lot in life her job is to hey traffic this is what i do well where was she last week had you hurt i mean think of the ripple effect this thing had had she said during a traffic update hey turnpike north holland tunnel stay away maybe you don't have to deal with the four and a half hour commute in and guess what maybe i don't have to do half of the next show when i called into the show that day i was not even at that point yet that she was referring to i'm so annoyed at Debbie i wouldn't be annoyed at Debbie well i'm i'm i'm i'm i love her so much but i'm so annoyed more annoyed at Debbie or more annoyed at ray for what happened earlier with the college basketball stuff with Montclair i'm annoyed at both of them i'm i'm not interested it's vindication for me because you said that there were people here that actually thought that i woke up that morning and and came

49:24up with nothing better to do than just come up with a lock up and at like 8 45 you know i better get into the show no i think about if i woke up at 8 45 it got if that's what happened okay i'm just doing the show from home i'm not like because i'm not a fool to think that if i woke up at 8 45 given the rush hour traffic that the normally is that i would really make it in time for teklon did you feel did you feel guilty for me like for what you put me through yeah because you didn't have to do that because look i've i've i'm doing this show today do this show a lot i wake up this early if i wake up at four in the morning the last thing i want to do is stay on the air an extra hour because i'm pretty much on fumes by 10 o'clock anyways yeah well i i did an extra hour and a half of the show her someone say heroic oh absolutely i mean the metal of honor i think that you're a nominee the highest honor you can give to a civilian oh you know by the way i i think that puts me right in contention for a car me next year

50:24right right that like i think i'm a finalist before anything happens i think i think i would have to be hey you know what you play your cards the right way good things can happen um speaking of i don't know this doesn't make sense good morning one day i'll Robinson i think one day i was happy about that traffic shout out good morning one day i'll tell you it's going to be happy to be one day of Robinson's banker and yeah yeah 19 million a year uh and not with the giants i don't we're slobbering and Rosenberg live from the Irish exit at Moynihan train hall next friday march the 13th before the sevy final round of the biggest tournament stop by before heading into the garden or before you decide to head home on your commute dawn honn Rosenberg live from the Irish exit Moynihan train hall starting at three next friday march 13th brought to you by sweeps above the rim refreshment feel the madness and refresh your game with a sweepseltzer

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