Hour 1 - Airing Out Everything

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3:04And Ick McCoskey is his last name. And we'll hear his have very interesting career in broadcasting. And I met him in a press box. He came up to me and said, hey, I listen to the show. And I thought that he was full of crap. Turns out he was a fan of the show. So check that out on the fifth hour podcast. Only available on the podcast. As we get closer by the world baseball classes get underway and opening days. Just a few weeks away. Now, an hour one of this podcast. Cowboys bowing out of the Mac. Crosby sweepstakes. Developing hot dot dot dot. What's this storyline? Tell us. If Dallas is pivoting to edge tray Hendrickson over Max Crosby. How big a downgrade would that be for the cowboys? And what stands out to you about the Washington football team looking to add. Wide receiver brand and Ick on a prove it deal. If he's let go officially by the 49ers. Well, cross examine all of those issues.

4:04Get to it right now. Here it is. Our number one. Everything. Everything needs to be out there. Welcome in. The beginning of another night of the Ben Mallor Show. We are in the air. Evry. Where? At all times. At all times as we warm your heart. Unless we don't coast the coast, border to border and beyond. On the vast end. Humongously powerful microphones of FSR. Amonating live. From the pillars. The pillars of the audio temple. Of sports talk.

5:04As we are side by side. The world famous Fox sports radio studios. Now Sean G. Who's an epic clipper guy. Big clipper. He did a documentary about Benoit Benjamin. It's on YouTube. How about that? Yeah. He reminds us that this hour made possible by our friends at Tyraq. For over 40 years. That's for how what and where they drive. Ship fast and free. Back by free road hazard protection. Which alf the alien opiner. Ferg dog and mallet prop guy. Like a whole lot. With convenient installation options. Like mobile tire installation. Tyraq.com. The way tire buying. Should. Be. And hopefully you're doing all right. We are back at it here all night. And we jump in with both feet. And then later on we'll do a belly walker. And as we do have mallet to the third degree later. Who am I game?

6:04Way down the line. We'll have sports jeopardy. And the comedy club. We'll open up. Yeah, that's right. It's basically bashing our friend Wheatman Hippie. In Miami, but it'll be lame jokes of the week. That'll be coming up in our number three. But opportunity knocks. We're going to start with the great fine. It is the silly season. And when it is the silly season, you must go on a rampage and enjoy every little nugget. That comes out. So we start out deep in the heart of Texas. The plot thickens. In Jerry's world. Have you heard the latest on this? Have you been following? No. Okay. Good. Good for you. Maybe not. So we've learned now that the cowboys thought. They assumed, you know what happens when you assume. They were close to acquiring Raider's age. Russia max. Crosby. That's max. With two X is not three X is max.

7:04Crosby. Via a trade this week. However, apparently that did not happen because he's. Crosby's at nine minutes rated. And other teams have been sniffing around. Trying to get in there. And so now. The offers that the Raiders have are supposedly greater than the cowboys offer. And I love that the reports said that the offers for Crosby are potentially. Potentially up to two first round traffic. So the cowboys. Again, this is the scuttle but have tapped out. They've tossed in the sponge here and pivoted to. Free agent defensive end or soon to be free agent defensive end. Trey Hendrickson who the bangles decided they didn't want to pay anymore. And so they got rid of him. Get out of here. You're done. We can have the NFL's worst defense without you.

8:04We don't need you. So that is a good jumping off point. Let us discuss. There's a lot to this. So the question. The reporting the cowboys are bowing out of the max Crosby sweepstakes. What's that storyline. Tell you. So my thoughts on this. I've got QVC. Madrid. And large yellow sticker. And we will combine all of these things together. And we are going to pull the pin on an audio grenade. Is what we're going to do. Yeah. I know. I know. All right. So A. I like to use the time test in Mallor Schneider's test. And do the old smell test. So I'm going to do that right now. Yeah. So smells like Jerry Jones is doing what Jerry Jones does best. He wins the off season. You can rip them all you want. You can say that what he does is a throwback to medieval times.

9:05But he wins the off season. The marketing circus. Under the big top. Fun for all ages. Come on. Come on. You're as great at it. Not just an owner. He's a marketing maven. An absolute marketing maven. The guide treats the NFL like QVC. Everything is a promotion. Everything is a teaser trailer. Jerry leaks out. Dallas is out. The shark starts circling. The debate shows start going on and on about the cowboys. Of course, Jerry. I have to say anything for the debate shows to talk about the cowboys. Everyone gets all worked into a ladder. And all worked into a ladder. And suddenly the cowboys are the lead story yet again. And Max Crosby right now is sitting on a folding chair. Somewhere out there. Maybe a table. I think maybe a chair sitting on a chair there. And the flea market is open for business. And the Raiders are walking around and Tom Brady's got his skinny pants on.

10:05Get the megaphone out there. Who wants an all-pro pastor? Come on down. Come on down right now. Do I hear two first round picks? How about two first rounds of second round pick? Now if somebody, here's my theory on this. If somebody met the reserve price for Max Crosby, then he wouldn't be in Vegas. And I just checked before we cracked the microphones. And he's still with the Raiders. So he hadn't been traded. There's no report of a trade happening. So that would mean that that report was wishful thinking. And they did use the weasel word. Remember, this is the time of the year. Pop goes to weasel. You got to pay attention to weasel words. And so when you use words like potentially. Potentially great weasel word. Really solid weasel word. Potentially. Yeah. It's just outstanding. So he threw it all together. And it hadn't happened. The trade of Max Crosby. Is it Jerry? Is it possible? Is there a world? A dimension in the multiverse where Jerry Jones leaked this out.

11:09And the cowboys. They stay in the headlines. And then it's the art of negotiation via trickeration. The old negotiation trickeration. Smoke mirrors and a couple of planted stories to useful idiots in the media. And the message to Crosby. It's like a dog whistle to Crosby. And we'll say, hey, listen, if you want to play in Dallas. Which is the Raiders with a different logo on the helmet. Then start raising a ruckus. In Vegas. You got to create chaos. A whole of blue. If you want that. Now keeping the theme going page two here. As we continue all night. On the Ben Mallor Show. So we are told the cowboys are expected to shift their focus. To instead of continuing to try to get Max Crosby to acquire when the newly year begins. Free agent. Trey Hendrickson of the.

12:09Well, he was with the Ben Gals. So let's pretend for the purposes of this mallor monologue that that's not some kind of squeeze play. And that this is actually the real deal. And that's true. So the question. If Dallas is pivoting to Trey Hendrickson over Max Crosby. How big a downgrade. Would that be for the cowboys side by side. So if you go side by side, if the cowboys do pivot for Max Crosby to Trey Hendrickson. I'm going to use a sandwich analogy, the Hogi analogy here. It's similar, but not the same. For example, Max Crosby. If you were to look not a list, but a big board, Benny's big board of sandwiches. A properly made cheese steak as the godfather of Fox Sports Radio, the great Tony Bruno taught me years ago. You got to have the provolone, not the cheese whiz on that.

13:09The right kind of bread, the whole thing, throw that together. That's a perfect sandwich. The cheese steak sandwich with the onion, the peppers and all that. That's the way to do it. He's a sandwich. However, he's like a spicy chicken sandwich that's been sitting out under a heating lamp at a 7-11 for the last 22 hours. Not quite the same. Not quite the same. A sandwich, but not quite the same. Now both of these guys get sacked. However, when the run game comes towards Hendrickson, he undergoes a metamorphosis. He travels through time to Madrid, Spain. He becomes a bullfighter, a matador. Ole, ole, ole, ole, ole. And running backs, they just go, woo, right by him. Now Crosby, when you look at his body work here, he's a Swiss Army knife. And he's able to play the run. And wants to play all the time and all that has been durable.

14:10And he's also a little bit younger. And in that business, obviously that's a big deal, but kind of a guy that is the centerpiece. Not that Hendrickson wouldn't be the centerpiece. The Cowboys have a bunch of no names and bombs on defense, flots him and jets him. But instead of a Swiss Army knife that has a little bit of everything, he's more like a switch plate. It doesn't have the other attachments, just a switch plate, that's it. That's all he's got. So Jerry is being a... It would appear, again, how much of this is true and how much of this is for public consumption. As Jerry likes to say, when things get boring around here, I like to stir it up a little bit. So it looks from the outside that Jerry is being a frugal shopper. That he's being a frugal shopper and budget's tight, you know. It's true that those mega yachts and Jerry's got a really nice yacht last we heard. And you need to have a bunch of people on staff for that. If you want to enjoy the South of France, you got to have the internet on there.

15:11You got to have the greatest chefs and the cleaning people and servants and all that on those mega yachts. And so if you spend a little more on Max Crosby, do you then have to get rid of your Butler, your second or third Butler on the yacht? That's a tough decision. I think we can all understand and relate to the dilemma that Jerry would have. All right, now last word to the belt way we go, a player that we have talked about way too much. I was thinking about this when I was coming into the studio. I was like, we have talked about this guy way too much considering how few impact moments he's had in his career. Now, who am I talking about? That would be Brandon Ayuk, the wide receiver, who I guess is technically part of the 49ers. I guess the new league year starts next week. So there is some chatter and we love our chatter. The commanders could sign Brandon Ayuk to a one-year prove it deal. A one-year prove it deal if the 49ers end up doing the release and which I assume we all assume that's going to happen.

16:18It seems like that's obvious and the Niners are pretty much said they're going to get rid of him whether they trade him or release him. Or likely you would just release him because why would you trade for a player who's going to be released anyway. So the question on this one, what stands out, if anything, what stands out to you about Washington, the team formerly known as the Redskins, looking to add wide receiver Brandon Ayuk on a prove it contract. So the first thing is rather clear. I think everyone, you know the person in the back of the room over there, the person in the way in the back of the warehouse is not even listening. They know the NFL motto is never give up on talent. Even when the talent, like in this case, is clearly giving up on their own frontal lobe. You just don't give up on the talent. You don't, you know, there's a wide receiver right now in jail who killed a young woman and her dog. They burned up alive because of him and he's going to get out jail relatively soon and someone's going to give him a tryout.

17:23That's how the NFL operates. That's how they do things there. Obviously, this is not that. This is much, much different. But Brandon Ayuk has a large yellow sticker that has been slapped on his back and it reads buyer beware, buyer beware, a dynamic separation merchant. An artist of separation who has also managed to separate himself from his teammates, his coaches, not his own ego though. He cannot separate himself from his own ego. And after that Frisco Fiasco, where he cost himself a cool 27 million, you realize in the annals of the NFL, there are only a handful of people in the history of the NFL that have blown 27 million dollars. There's a guy in jail that was going around robbing banks to go to chiefs games and to gamble. And that guy didn't get 27 million when he was robbing banks.

18:23This guy gave up 27 million, the steepest exit tax to leave California yet. And certainly an NFL history and he's now looking to have what make it prove it deals. That's what he's got, which even that, you're like, why does he even have that? What is he out to prove? He's out to prove what? That he's not some kind of high speed social media addicted powder keg. And that's it. What is it? They give the commanders and the commanders are in this weird spot. They came out of nowhere. They had sucked for years. They came out of nowhere, got to the final four. And then he got smoked in the final four had that magic playoff run. Jaden Daniels looks like he's going to snap at any moment. He snapped last year. And the commander is a terrible. And so if they pull the trigger on this, they can enjoy a nice lunch menu that includes their own sandwich, the knuckle sandwich, from the knucklehead in chief. And look forward to the two receiver set in Washington on one side.

19:28You'll have scary Terry McLaren on the other side. You'll have scary in maturity. I look and good luck. Good luck in Washington supposedly realizing that even if they got this guy, they still have to go get somebody else at the white out position. And so the reason you would have to do that is because whoever adds. The soon to be former 49er Brandon Iock knows that they are one or he is one bad ticked talk post away from a self-inflicted trip back to the dog house. And good luck. Now in DC, they'll learn the only thing more toxic. The only more toxic in DC than politics is a white out who sends communication via a cryptic emoji or a bunch of cryptic emojis and cannot stop cold turkey cannot do it addicted addicted and is so addicted to it that he's willing to give up 27 million dollars.

20:32At some point, if he's lucky, Brandon Iock will be an old man and he'll be sitting on a rocking chair somewhere and talking about his life and say, you know, maybe I shouldn't, maybe I shouldn't have done that. Maybe I just, you know, I could have been, could have had a little more money there. Leave the kids grandkids, great grandkids, whatever it is unbelievable. It is the Ben Mallor show. If you would like to be part, you can join us right now. Yeah, lines easiest time to get in is right now. I guess progressively harder as we go through the overnight. You know that though. You know, could you pay attention? You pay attention. So if you want to be part of the show, give us a buzz right now. 87799 on Fox is the number 8779966369 also on X at Ben Mallor. That's at Ben Mallor. If you want to be part of the show on the X machine, we read a lot of comments. You can follow. I typically don't read accounts that don't follow the show. So if you want us to read your stuff, you just follow the show on there.

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28:58It's a no win situation. The Cowboys are the Raiders with just a different logo and a little more popularity and just a similar very similar. Ferg dog writes in from that winter wonderland of Fullerton. How much snow did you guys get in that Blizzard Ferg dog? He says I'm still in complete shock that Max Crosby is going to be traded any minute now. Danny G and the rest of Raider Nation assured me that Max will be a Raider for life. If you can't trust Raider Nation, you can't trust anybody. You're trying to annoy Perito. I know what you're trying to do. And Danny G and Max Crosby was the guy that you hung your hat on with the Raiders born to be a Raider and born to leave the Raiders also. Yeah, absolutely. Supermarket Steve writes and he says are we sure that Brandon I just refused to play for the San Francisco 49ers because he was tired of the living in San Francisco with all the homeless and the drug addicts.

30:07He wrote nor I think he meant not. Yeah, there's an R and a T near each other on the keyboard. So I think the drug addicts were very friendly and welcoming while we were in Frisco. Yes, and I need any kind of fentanyl. That's the spot right there. I'm sure they would have loved to share. And the cool thing when you walk the streets of downtown San Francisco, it's it's like an obstacle course. You know, do you step over the guy who's taking a nap because he had too much and too many drugs or do you walk around them? It's you have to decide that when you're walking. I don't know. I do like that they pushed everyone over a couple blocks when the Super Bowl was there. So then people that were shuttled in on limousines like Pat McAfee were like, oh, I don't understand what everyone's talking about. Live the overnight radio life, buddy. Walk a few blocks over. It's an eye opening experience. Michael writes in says, hey, man, always a plus on the monologue. But it doesn't matter what you say. Tom in Texas will always hate you. How dare you talk about the Cowboys football or anything related to sports.

31:12I'd like to hear blind Scott have a fight with that a Gibroni. He says, yeah, all right. Well, there you go. All right. Anyway, let's see here. Now we do have someone that would like to do an octagon on the on the show. Let me see here. Let me go to him. Is he online right now? Is that is that I think so? Yeah. Okay. No, he is. All right. Let's go to Lucky Tony. Who is throwing down the gauntlet? Is this correct? Lucky Tony? Are you throwing down the gauntlet here, Tony? Well, if the guys online, if not, I'm just trying to entertain the masses. All right. All right. So here's he's always. Okay. All right. Well, he is online. So this is going to be it. We didn't plan this. We didn't plan this with Lucky Tony. You are. You'd like to get into the octagon with blind Scott. Is that correct? Yes, you're nodding your head. Yes, over there. Okay. So the verbal octagon, if you're new to the show, is three rounds of verbal sparring. And they go back and forth. Now the problem I have with this is Lucky Tony can't go more than 10 seconds without cursing.

32:22And if you curse, you lose points. And if you curse twice, you're disqualified. You lose. So I'm concerned about that. But if everyone wants, does anyone say no to this octagon? Does anyone say no? Any objections? I mean, I don't think it'll last very long, but. Okay. All right. Well, listen, I was ready on the dump. Okay. All right. And the issue here, Lucky Tony, is you do not like blind Scott. Is that correct? You have an issue with blind Scott? Would that be accurate? Okay, man. I'm just here to punch you. Okay. All right. I got you. Hold on. Put them on. Let's see if Scott's blind Scott. Are you accepting or declining the challenge of Lucky Tony in New York, California? Give me a couple of seconds. This is good radio. This guy's a piece of crap. He swears. He eats my radio time up. Tony, I got to tell you something. We haven't started. We have not started yet. We have not started yet. Okay. All right. All right. That's why we here. Here's the way we're going to do this on the fly. Here's your live coverage. We're going to workshop this. We're going to do this right now.

33:30In real time. So we've got Lucky Tony. I normally do this big introduction. We're not going to do the big introduction because this just popped up on my radar. So we'll just announce the verbal octagon, which if you've never heard it, it's three rounds of just insults. And you got to keep it clean and all that, which is always an issue here. We do these semi regularly, although we've gone a long time at times without doing them. There's three rounds. So the opening round, the way this is going to work, the opening round is only 10 seconds, which seems like no amount of time. But trust me, it's often too long. And then we'll go back and forth. Round two is 20 seconds. Round three is the bloody knuckles yapping. And we're going to limit that to 25 seconds. If we even make it to round three. So gentlemen, we're going to do this right now. Do we have a bell here? Do we have the boxing bell ready to signal the start of this battle royale? Do you want a boxing bell or a gong? Well, I know this is the boxing bell. This is boxing. This is verbal boxing. It is the sweet science. And we will go to the judges score card.

34:41You'll be able to vote on this. We'll have the vote of the people, the vote of the people on X. So again, three rounds. Gentlemen, I've just given you your instructions in this talk. Oh, Rama again, we must have a clean fight if we have to dump you. And we have to do it multiple times. You will immediately be disqualified. We will stop the bout. And the other person will be declared the winner. And that's just the way it goes. We know what you can and can't say. Gentlemen, good luck. Protect yourself at all times. Well, we're going to put 10 seconds on the clock. Round one verbal octagon. We start out with Lucky. This is blind Scott versus Lucky Tony. Lucky Tony in the Bay Area. 10 seconds on the verbal octagon. You're on go. In one year, the lipstick on is the number one Boston caller and the number one Boston sports fan. You're just a hillbilly bedneck panty weight. Jump. All right. That was round one. Now we go to blind Scott for 10 seconds of rebuttal blind Scott from the north end of Boston. Go blind Scott. Go.

35:50Tony, you're a piece of crap. I'm going to make you viral on how we turn you piece of crap. You redneck loser. You're a marine. Thanks for serving. But you suck. You're the biggest hack on the radio ever. I hate you. All right. All right. All right. There you go. Round one in the books judges. Make sure to take some notes on that. We head now to round two of the verbal octagon. We go back now to Lucky Tony in the Bay Area. This is round two. A chance to Lucky Tony to respond. We'll give you 20 seconds. You're on go. Blanc, Blanc Scott. I call your mom set soggy nipple. Savers call you Boston cream pie. You looked at more BBC than error Rogers. You ain't mafia. You're a rat. That's why they're all in jail. You choose with Chihuahua. Go up a rate. You go because no one's paying for a schoolgirl with big tails. All right. All right. All right. There you go. All right. That's round two. So far we have not had to dump any of these guys so far.

36:53We're keeping it clean. Kind of clean. I don't know. I was on the on the spectrum. I heard Knipples name. Yes. Kahn Knipple. That's allowed. This big fan of Charlotte Hornets. We're all fans of the Charlotte ones. We all love Kahn Knipple. Love a good internet. Yeah. Absolutely. Let's go back to blind Scott. 20 seconds blind Scott versus Lucky Tony. Listen to our live coverage of the verbal octagon. I'm Fox 4 3ds. Man. Let's go. Tony. You're the taste of the Intel movement. You never have sex with women. You look like you want to have sex with Ben Mather. You call him every night and swear at him. You're a complete homophobic loser. You never have a girlfriend. I'm better looking than any girl you've ever been with where women's face. You homophobic loser. Show me freaking. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Getting very personal here. Very personal from blind Scott. And now here's the round judges again take notes there. And now we get to the final round of the verbal octagon. The bloody knuckles where both these gentlemen are on the same time.

37:58And whoever's louder will be the winner. And 20 25 seconds. Oh my god. Here we go. Gentlemen. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Well, that's never happened before. Well, there it is. Round three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Everyone pause. Everyone. Everyone pause here. We will go to the judges score cards momentarily. And that was the gentleman do not hang up by the way because we will do the post fight interview.

39:05We're going to do the post fight interview here in a moment. You just listen to our live coverage of the verbal octagon with the coast of coast combatants blind Scott who was challenged to accept the challenge on the north end of Boston and Lucky Tony somewhere in the greater San Francisco area. So lucky Tony already hung up. All right. Of course, Lucky Tony hung up. That's fine. But we will. We'll go to the judges score cards. We'll also let you vote the vote of the people on X. I'll put that up in a couple of minutes there. And time now. But before we get to that, let's do the who am I game because great formatic here. And then we will go to the judges score cards. And then we will break it all down. And we'll slice it and dice it and all that good stuff. Yeah. Well, it's what's the who am I game is what it is. So my birth name is Deniston. I am known by my nickname. I am one of the more well known NFL players. My free game ritual involves Mountain Dew and chicken Alfredo before most games. And most of my career I've been on bad football teams. In fact, I just recently had my first winning season in my 11 year career. That goes all the way back to college where my teams have almost always been bad.

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43:26The audio content continues to check that out. Fifth hour podcast with Ben Mallor. Not Bill Miller. Bill Miller not part of that. But Ben Mallor is to check that out all weekend long new episode, including the mailbag on Sunday. Very popular. Nothing like ask Ben at all. So check that out wherever you get your podcast, Ben Mallor show podcast. Fifth hour podcast, subscribe. Thank you. In advance back to it. All right, back to what we go. Let's get to the judges score cards we just had and we'll pay off the who am I game in a minute. I promise, but we go to the judges score cards here as the octagon took place with blind Scott and lucky Tony. And you can vote on this if you would like on the X machine at the at Ben Mallor page there. There is a survey pull up, whatever you want to call it. And you can vote on who you thought won that. And we'll go to the judges score cards. I will go first.

44:27I thought round one. I give round one to Tony. I thought he obviously knew what he wanted to do. Scott was pretty much blindsided on this. I thought round one Tony was prepared. He had some material. They were obviously scripted lines. I thought they were pretty good personal assault lines. Scott seemed a little flustered in round one as he would expect. I think he repeated some of the material that if I wrote down my notes, right? I think it was round one. He repeated some of the lines there from Tony. Round two. That is where Scott really showed that he is a maestro in the octagon. It was a personal assault. It was vicious. It was below the belt. It was just Scott throwing haymakers and Molly wopped Tony. Tony was staggered. Tony was staggered on my my score card. So round one, I gave to Tony 10, 9, round two.

45:30I gave to Scott 10, 9. I thought Scott was really nailed it. He didn't prepare. I just went below the belt and nasty and all that stuff. Now round three. So going in round three, it was dead even. And then one of the greatest rounds in verbal octagon history that will never ever be matched. Somebody can try to do it again, but it will never reach the same level. Where Lucky Tony decided that he would just not allow Scott's voice to be heard by saying I believe he said jiggle watt over. He was singing like the word. And initially I was worried I didn't know what that meant. I thought well maybe that's something we shouldn't have on the way but I guess according the internet is from back to the future part two. So I didn't I don't remember back to the future of the region. I saw back to the future too, but I don't remember. I thought that was a 10-8 round. So I give the win to Lucky Tony.

46:31What about you, Lorraine? How did you see the fight quickly? Well, you know I'm not as good as you at grading this, but yeah. That's fine, that's fine. Lucky Tony, I could tell he was premeditated. He was sitting there all day like, what am I going to say in this verbal octagon that I am pre-planning? He did great. I loved it. I thought he was, you know. So you give the win to Tony? Well, kind of. Kind of? Yes. All right. So that was technically yes, Tony won for me. Okay. Cool. How did you see the fight here? Cool blue. I feel like you looked at my notes. It was almost exactly what I was going to say. Tony was obviously the one that called for this fight. So he was ready in the first round. Scott wasn't. But then like you said, I thought second round, Scott, you know, came through and did what Scott does, he killed it. He killed it. He did. But then the last round, I couldn't hear Scott. I could only hear Tony. So we got to give it to Tony. All right. So we have given the vote to Lucky Tony. If you would like to vote, the vote of the people, a lot of people love Tony singing. Ocho Texo says, I got to give the edge for Lucky Tony

47:33for successfully drowning Scott's voice with the, he said the jigger butt chant or whatever it was. JJ from Renton says, oh, my goodness, Ben, we need to do this segment more often. You should have seen how my co-workers were looking at me laughing so loudly. And just Josh says, hey, hey, oh, jigger watch. Yeah. Yeah, it was catchy. It was great. It was once I got past the thought that maybe we had screwed this up, but anyway, all right. So you can vote. You can vote real quick. The who am I game? My birth name is Deniston. I'm known for by my nickname. I played in the NFL for a number of years. My pregame ritual involves Mountain Dew and Chicken Alfredo to get fired up for games. I have mostly been on bad teams. I just had my first winning football season in my 11 year career going back to college in 2025. Who am I? Mr. Nice guys going with Caesar Sedanio. It's his answer. King Roy says our old colleague Doug Gottlieb.

48:33This is his answer. Who else do we have? Alan Greenspan, who's a hundred today? No way. Really still alive from late night drug tests are good for him. Dennis the Menace from Michael. Who else do we have a page down? Benny Hanna from Alpo, you're really enjoying that AI Photoshop, aren't you Al? I think some of my wife, the photo with the Pope, she liked that. Norm Peterson from Rob, the goat again. All right, who else? Page down here. Dumb and Dumber like the octagon from Scrooge in the Bay Area. Red Sox and joyous of the city of Boston doesn't recognize Blind Scott as a citizen. What say you, Lorena? I'm going to go with Mike Harmon, who just walked back in the studio. We love Harmon. No, the correct answer is DJ Moore. His real name is Deniston, DJ Moore. The Bills now. With the Venmo debit card, a taco in one hand and ordering a ride in the other means you're stacking your rewards. Nice. Get up to 5% cash back with Venmo stash

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