
About this episode
This week, the Hivemind team is joined by Guy Young, founder of Ethena, to discuss the launch of their $360M ENA vehicle, the structural challenges in altcoin market flows, the evolving use cases for stablecoins, and why Athena’s yield-based model positions it as a more scalable solution than USDC. They also unpack the impact of the Genius Act on U.S. stablecoin regulation, the long-term overvaluation of L1s like ETH and SOL, and how the market structure is shifting toward revenue-generating apps like Hyperliquid. Enjoy!
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:27) Ethena & its New Treasury Vehicle
(8:26) Competing with Other Stables
(18:38) The Genius Act & Its Implications
(35:18) ETH & Treasury Vehicles
(40:20) The Future of Altcoins & L1s
(42:24) Ethena & the Futures Market
(44:16) L1 Valuations
(52:17) Pump.Fun ICO
(1:10:10) Final Thoughts
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