Historic Preservation Commission 02/11/2026

0:00Okay, good evening everyone. I'll like to call the meeting today. February the 11th, 2021-6. It is 6.19 p.m. there and good afternoon. I'd like to go ahead and have everybody as review the minutes for the January 12th, 20-26 minutes. Is there any discussion or any type of comments or reviews? See none, here none. I'd like to have a motion for the passage of the minutes of January the 14th. I make a motion to pass the minutes. Okay, Ruby, you can start again. Second. Okay, and I'd like to take a vote for eyes. Any opposed?

1:09Your eyes have it. Okay, Ruby, I'll share my comment. Okay, Ruby, you can hang up your phone now because we can see you. Okay, great. Thank you. I just did. All right, thank you. All right. All right, I'm Francis Gregg. Everybody probably already knows me here. I'm filling in for the Honorable Mr. Franklin Robinson today. Chairman's comments there. I have none. Acknowledgement there. I do like to acknowledge Charles County. It's employees in governing structure there for acknowledging that they are on our the Skydaway Canoe tribal historical homelands there. So thank you for that. Personal appearances there. Looks like we have none.

2:12However, Jean Bailey is now joining us for the evening and decided to join after the agenda went through. So we will add her. Oh, okay. And is Miss Jean Bailey going to be having any comments? She may later when Ruby is talking about the ports. Perfect. Okay. Development plan review there. I see we have none as well there. Next item is going to be the landmark designation and historical work permit application for the Oakwell Cemetery at Parkland. That's you, Cal. Yes. So this is the cemetery that was discovered when the Parkland Subdivision off St. Charles Parkway was being constructed. The site has gone through extensive study survey and a preservation plan was

3:17developed. We're getting toward the end of that preservation plan. And one of the final steps is to designate that area as a landmark. There's already a plant that has been submitted that has a cemetery easement around the site. There's a 25 foot buffer around the site as well. And there's an egress access to the site. This final edition of having the designation as a landmark will permanently preserve this site even further and would require any types of alterations to that site to come through the Stalk Preservation Commission. But with this site, it's kind of already that most likely will not happen since it already has the preservation easement on it. So the current owner who's still the developer of that subdivision has sold out a landmark application and has submitted it to you all the Stalk Preservation Commission. That was

4:17added in the attachments that Amy sent out a couple days ago for you guys to review. In addition to the application, I also included the original preservation plan, which has all of the research that was done some maps on it as well. And I can show you on our GIS map. It's current location. So I can say this is off St. Charles Parkway, Parkland subdivision. So we'll play those over here and we're going back to St. Rosewick. Going back in. St. Charles Parkway. Currently, the site is protected by a blaze orange fence. The developer is fully aware that there should be no encroachment of any kind into this site while construction is happening. I know there have been a few inspections between staff out there just to confirm that nothing has happened. So that's basically where we're at at this point is for you all to review the application.

5:21If it's approved, it'll go to the Planning Commission for their approval. And if the Planning Commission approves it, then it'll finally go to the Board of County Commissioners for their final approval. And once they approve it, it'll be designated as a Charles County Historic Landmark. And remember, you guys approved the historic preservation plan several years ago. And I believe that Francis and Ben or on the commission at that point, Ruby may have been. I'm not sure. And Stephanie, of course, this will be your first round with this project. So is this the final process into this application? All this left is the landscaping, which is in the historic preservation plan, which you guys approved. This was one of this is like the next to the last step because we required them in the I think in the preservation plan to do a market.

6:22Yes, that's that's that's correct. I remember just now once Cal had just showed me the the the mapping there of this process there. So yeah, I do do remember that I'm unfortunate event there for the disturbance there. So we're looking at this as having a vote there to approve all the preservation plan. Well, the preservation plan has been approved. The sign has been approved. Correct. What you guys are approving is the application to make the cemetery a landmark. Like we did with JC Park's house, like we did with the store over in Marbury. This is going to give that the same protection. Right. And about the only thing that might change

7:22is if the sign falls over and they need to replace it. And you know what, if that happens, I'm hoping all of us have retired and we're not on the commission anymore. That is 25 to 30 to 50 years down the line and it's somebody else's problem. Yeah, okay. So I suppose we need here is a most important with the approval of the application here. If everybody has reviewed it and everybody has not had any comments or discussions that they would like to bring forth there. No comments, but we need an omit. We need a we would need to have a nomination before it. I move that the application be approved in accordance with our review. Thank you, Ruby. I'll second it. Hey, Ben seconds. And we will have a vote on this there. So any abstain, any objections,

8:30approvals, the eyes, just hand, thumbs. Eyes have it. Okay. This is cool. We have a new landmark. Yes. That's cool. Hopefully we're setting the tone and the stage and everything for future. Well, he's hope we don't have a worry about this in the future, but just in case here's the model. If we have to worry about this one again in the future, I'm sorry. I'm going to have a wrap. No, not this one. There's all the places in charge. That's my concern. That's all. Okay. Number seven, National Register 4 review. We have none. We have no new business. Looks like we have quite a bit of items. Oh, right. New business. Cal, do you want to talk about the comp plan real quick?

9:35Yes. So earlier today, I sent everybody here a flyer for the comprehensive plan. For those of you who aren't too familiar with that, it's a basically a master plan that the county is required to put out every 10 years. The goal is to look 30 years into the future to see what type of basically community we want the county to be. Where are the focuses on transportation, utilities, education, environmental, preservation, probably all aspects of a county is reviewed, looked at. For this plan, there's tons of community outreach input that goes along with this. So they're kind of in the be. They're just starting now to have the public outreach meetings. And Amy Blessinger, who some of you may be familiar with, she is leading this comprehensive plan project. And she just asked if I could pass the long

10:40that flyer that has all the dates for all the meetings coming up. To you all, that way you could take a look at it, share it within your groups. Basically just get the word out about the community engagement part of this project. And make your voices heard. Yeah, the meetings will be all over the county. So there'll be some on the west side, there'll be some over on the east side. Waldorf, I think there's one down here in the La Plata area. So they should be accessible to most of you guys. If Ruby ever comes back from Florida. I'm trying to get there now. Is the county going to be promoting this also in different formats there? There's social media page or anything like that as well. Oh yeah, I'm sure this is a big, big push.

11:43So I'm showing it here on the radio on all your social medias, hopefully in the newspapers and everything too. So I knew St. Mary's County, I think there are a year ahead of us. So they just put out their draft of their comprehensive plan. I'm not sure about Calvert County, but it seems like it's falls in St. Mary's. It's kind of almost on that same cycle. Okay. Now, do you see any role that we would play in this process? I know Kathy Thompson has talked briefly about using the comprehensive plan to kind of word this correctly. I guess designates certain historic districts that would automatically have them preserved. I'd have to get more with her on her vision for that, but I know there is that aspect of the plan. So yeah, but I don't know if you know too much about the process with that as far as how it

12:43relates to a store preservation. I think Beth went through it. She might be able to answer that question. You went through it the last time, did you? Yeah, I went through it the last time. I don't know. I'm wondering, I'm curious what areas she was thinking about in terms of like designating. I mean, Pamunky just was, I think, had the, is now a national, the national historic district. So I don't know if like they, because of that, like maybe they could show that on a map for the comp plan and have it carry a little more weight. Maybe that's what her thought process was. But yeah, we can certainly talk to her and find out more about that. But yeah, I mean, I think it's good for you all to be involved and just kind of follow along with the process and see

13:44kind of what the rest of the community is thinking too on things. And with you all being on the commission, um, certainly would encourage you to participate in any of the upcoming events since Ruby's on her way back. Yeah, and we're going to be giving out preservation matters, um, magazines at the, um, at the meetings. So, um, yeah, getting the word out about what we do. So, okay. Okay. I just want to be prepared. All right. Okay. So, um, it seems like that's going to be a lot there, especially you're talking trying to get a vision of 30 years out. Um, that's, that's, that's a, I don't know how far you can look into that, that, that, that, that looking glass of the future there and that far there because I, if I turn and take myself today and look back 30 years,

14:46it will be kind of hard to vision what we're looking at today. Um, so that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's going to be a heavy one there. I mean, I've seen quite a bit of changing and, and then if I go back now, I'll better stop before I start telling my age. Okay. Back to the discussion, items and updates there. Uh, let's see here. This will be, uh, guess it will be, um, Maria and Miss Ruby for the, um, middle passage and port, uh, committees. Good, good afternoon. And I think we've got Dr. Bailey joining us. Yes. Okay. Uh, I think she's muted herself. Dr. Bailey, are you on with us? Yes, I am. Hi, good afternoon. I am so glad to have this opportunity. Thank you very much.

15:47Okay. And Ruby, I see you're, you're getting more tan. I'm trying. I, well, just the, uh, the information of everyone. Ruby is a good friend of one of my colleagues. And so she said, oh, I'll arrange for a meeting. Ruby said, good luck. When, when I return back from the, all of the, the cruises. So that is so wonderful. So I hope you guys are enjoying yourself. Um, the, um, well, uh, just to bring everybody up to date and you up to date on with the, um, port project. Well, um, the port project was an initiative that came to us from the, um, from the, um, passage, um, mid, mid-Atlantic passage

16:50group of individuals. And they contacted us and, and we learned, um, through some research that we did have some ports in Charles County that, uh, were where, um, uh, the enslaved were bought. And there were like three passages, um, mainly, uh, ported back, not, not, not ported back, but mainly in the Nanjumoi, uh, area. And excuse me for a second. We, we just came into the hotel and my little doggy is acting up. So if you hear her, we'll bring, please forgive me. Um, so, um, as a result of that, we did a study and the study revealed that we did have, um, individuals that were bought through the Nanjumoi port. Uh,

17:51and then we had a discussion later to discuss where best to put the port, um, a marker. Uh, after much deliberation, we felt that it should go and put it back up. The ported back up was the, uh, original, um, county seat for Charles County years and years ago. And basically, it's where the port marker will get its most attention, uh, through the tourism that takes place in portabacco. Um, so we hired a person to design the, um, the display we worked with the portabacker community, historic conservation, uh, individuals to make sure that we got approval from them and putting the sign up and we got that approval. And the sign that's being designed, it will go in portabacco, um, to the designer, though, we, uh, I'm not sure if he's having some

18:55health issues or not, uh, but right now that's the status of where we are. So I got your email, Dr. Bailey, retaining to, it looks as if there is a registration or there's a, a nationwide effort, um, to make sure that the individual ports are in a directory. Um, so people will know where they are and, uh, and some information about them as well. Am I correct? Yes, I, you know, um, and chin and it's called the, the middle passage and port markets projects. So they have been, I mean, it's really doing a wonderful job of identifying all of the ports of entry along the, well, mostly from the, from the transatlantic slave trade mostly, but then also from the Caribbean, et cetera, that came into, uh, well, really the transatlantic trade from all the way up

20:02to in Canada. They, they did use, um, have Canada. There's a port of entry there all the way down to Galveston, Texas. So they have identified all the ports from there. The, for, for the state of Maryland, so far, I think they have identified 19, which had been certified or at least recognized by UNESCO, which is as based on, um, I guess they were inspired based on the UNESCO routes of enslaved peoples that was established in 1994. And by way, by the way, uh, it was based on the research of Dr. Joseph Harris, uh, who is, um, a resident of Maryland and lives in Annapolis. And he's currently 96 years old, moving close to, to 97, because he'll be 97 in July. And so, um,

21:08anyway, so, so based on that, when they began the project, they, in order to be recognized as a port of entry, to be certified by, uh, UNESCO, as, as a designated port and didn't have the documentation that there was indeed at least one, um, ship that came through from the transatlantic slave trade and had docked at, at each of the ports that was designated. And so that work has been going on. And they have identified just to kind of bring it home. 16 ports of entry so far are for the state of Maryland. And so that's what we are working on through the sister states of Maryland, the Maryland state archives and the Maryland Department of Tourism, uh, to

22:14bring all of those ports of entries together in a trail. And the trail, it's been recognized, uh, by the Maryland Commission on African American History and Culture. It's adopted and there, we're incorporating it, would be named in honor of Dr. Harris and would be, um, connected. And then also, um, in addition to, you know, what we would have for each, and we're hoping that port tobacco would be, uh, one of the first seven, we're hoping to do the first seven very soon. Um, we have, and I can get to that later, but in any case, so we do have, um, the 17, that we have identified six, the first six would be Annapolis, uh, Baltimore, uh, New London town. Well, I guess I should say historic solverly is first on the, uh, on the list. And then,

23:25um, historic solverly, uh, London town, Nottingham is a new one that we are going to have. And then Port tobacco. So we're going to have those, and so that's why we were very anxious to meet with, Ms. Thomas, so that we could get, and begin to discuss and get the permission of, for, for tobacco to be a part of the trail. So the trail will be connected. As I said, there will be tourism, um, that's associated, but we also will have the QR codes that will be connected to the research. And we have an online digital archive at, uh, a project that we're working with, the Maryland State Archives to establish. So there is a, um, a database where we will view the research that you, that each of the ports connect, collect, can be deposited at the,

24:29online, at the archives, and then QR codes connected, at least to our marker, that we, uh, that has been developed so that, uh, when tourists come to this, uh, visit that particular site, then they will be able to, as, you know, get information about the, and the shifts that came in, and maybe hopefully, um, more about the individuals who were on the ship, and they're, you know, just getting more information about the descendants, and it would not be limited to one, but all of the, the shifts that came in, uh, to that particular port, or to, um, uh, for example, port tobacco. So we would be working with you. I know that you guys have really, um, done a lot of research already, have most of the data, I know, a lot of people are doing research on, uh, port tobacco, so kind of pulling all of it together,

25:33so there will be an, in the, uh, Maryland Archives, and we're working very closely with them for that. And we did get funding, partial funding from the state to support that, uh, this whole work, and also, as I mentioned, the Maryland Commission on African-American history, has also, uh, is endorsed the project, is, is a part of our history. The other component that is very significant, is that I mentioned that, um, the, um, UNESCO routes of enslaved peoples was established in 1994, so they celebrated the 30th anniversary in 2024, and they have made a commitment, um, because the UNESCO routes, it's not just the US, but it's, it's global, and that was the significance of Dr. Harris's work, was that initially there was just mostly focused on the

26:40transatlantic slave trade, but he studied like the trade in Asia, the Indian Ocean, with the Bargrain, India, Turkey, so he focused on the global diaspora and the dispersion, people from the African diaspora, all over the world, and so he is actually known as the father of the, of the African diaspora, in terms of the study. So he looked, you know, he is here, he's participating, um, he actually, if you, I could share that, I'll send a link to that, but I hosted the, I'm a, now a member of the Maryland Commission on African-American history and culture, so I hosted the Commission in Montgomery County, and Dr. Harris came, and then we had a representative from UNESCO, uh, to also zoom in and talk about Dr. Harris's role in the, uh, UNESCO slave trade,

27:42and just tell more about the, the UNESCO Ross of enslaved peoples and some of the things that they're doing. Um, so that video is now, um, available from that, uh, public meeting, which was on December 1st, 2025, is now available, and Dr. Harris spoke, so which was quite nice because he got a standing ovation, where he actually gave a presentation on his work and the significance. So, um, the UNESCO in continuing, uh, to this, the importance of the remembrance and the recognition also wants to just not identify the sites, but in the spirit of the diaspora have more of the connections. So what they have done is to establish a new project, which is called, uh, the network of connected

28:43places of memory. And, uh, for example, the new museum in, in, in, uh, South Carolina is a part of that, and then there are, the museum enrichment is a part of that, the UNESCO Ross, uh, places of memory. And so the connected places. And so we have applied, uh, to have our routes of enslaved peoples, this network that we have established, to be a part of that, uh, UNESCO, uh, network of places of memory. And we'll be working closely with UNESCO to kind of help to publicize that and also connect. And one of the things that, that they also, which I think this is kind of inspired, Senator Ellis, is, um, is the twinning in the connection. So if you have, like Port Tobacco,

29:51is, um, has a, is a part of the network. If there's another, uh, city, country, like there are already Nigeria, for example, is a member of the network. Oh, and Ghana is a member of network. If you have partnerships with those, we can establish partnerships between Maryland or Port Tobacco and one of the, um, other sites and then do the exchanges and the connections. Um, because that's what exactly what the diaspora is. And as you know, for Port Tobacco, so many people are interested in the descendants, but what we would be doing and able to do now working with UNESCO is connecting back to Africa in, or yes, basically Africa. And then also to other places in the diaspora where, um, people of African descent may have been, uh,

30:57disperse. So it's a, you know, really exciting long-term project. Uh, so we were able to continue. So we, Port Tobacco, of course, is, is very important. I was able to attend the, um, the new, and when, and the ambassador for Mozambique, Mozambique is very excited about the new sister city partnership between Mozambique and Charles County. And, and I know one of the things that was on one of the, um, items on the attenuary was to visit Port Tobacco. So that, the connection between the cities and, of course, is what we will be helping to foster through this network of connected places and our heritage trail. And so our goal, we wanted to, we had sent a letter, uh, I'm not sure to whom. We sent the letter, but requesting your participation in Port Tobacco

31:58in the trail. And then being able to, for us to install a marker, we would be installing a marker similar to, and I can share a photo of the marker. Um, it's a way sign. So we call it with the specific information about Port Tobacco, or the specific site, as well as the QR codes that would link it back to the archives. Miss Bailey, the sign you're talking about would be separate from the one that, uh, yes. Okay. Because the one that we, we had talked to, uh, recreation parks and tourism about putting a sign in the park itself on county property. And they are still working on best practices for signs. So where the sign that Ruby and Maria are working on is going to go on the property that belongs to the society for the restoration of Port Tobacco, which is privately owned. And it will

33:03be at the birch house, which was the home of Washington, birch who, um, uh, Kellyn, I will be talking about, uh, in a little bit later tonight, who was, um, uh, one of the movers and shakers in the African community after the Civil War. So your sign, you're going to have to work with recreation parks and tourism. And I don't know when they're going to start putting signs up in the park, but they, it looks like they've got a very long, uh, list of things that they want to accomplish in the park area before they start doing signage. And one of the questions they have is, you know, how many signs should we put up? Who's responsible for the maintenance of the signs and things like that? So you would have to, uh, contact Ashley Chinalt directly, uh, at, uh, recreation park and tourism. Yeah. Yeah. So Kellyn, uh, her information for the chief of tourism.

34:04Yeah. Okay. They'll help you figure out where you need to put your sign on when you can put it up. We, uh, we just went through this process, which was with Prince George's County, uh, for their, yeah, net, well, order to knotty ham site. So that was, and one of the things that we, uh, through that process, um, we were able to, they, uh, knotty ham, well, not notty ham, but Prince George's County had decided that rather than having a permanent um, way sign or sign that there's a design that would enable you to have a semi-permanent that could be moved if necessary. And so our designer looked into that and we have been able to design a, oh, he has designed a, a way sign that could be either permanent or movable.

35:10Huh. So that is, she may be very interested in, in that, um, thank you so much for coming to talk to us tonight. I really, really appreciate the, um, the information and everything. And I'm sure you and Ruby are going to continue to work closely together. Yeah, it's, it sounds so cool. Dr. Bailey cared one of my friends to Africa with her. I just learned that a few weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. So that, in that twinning process and, uh, yes, so she's totally great. She knows so much of, you know, African history and she was so excited to go there. Yeah. So we're looking forward to getting together with you whenever you get back. But I know you're enjoying. I am so envious. I know it would be especially with the snow. But um, just quickly just to wrap up and thank you so much for your time. Um, I really do understand that it would be important for us to meet with the, uh, and I, if I can get that information about the, all the, uh, recreation director

36:18and the next steps, I would appreciate it so that we could get started working on it. Yeah, I just had it to you. Okay, great. Thank you so much. You're welcome. And I, and is, is, are there any other questions for me? If not, I will let you guys go on with the business. I don't mind, um, you know, staying around, but I know that you guys have, uh, a lot of things to do. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time too. I give us a, a briefing we truly do. Okay. Well, thank you for, and I'm so happy that you were able to not only call in, but also now to get on. I have to visit you. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Bye bye. Okay. Bye bye. Okay. Item B, the 250th there, uh, Simeisin, Simeis Quintinsensinal. That's about four right there. Yeah. That's a series there. Uh, who has that? Why don't I guess that will be me and Stephanie.

37:23All right. Yeah. We had our first meeting. Uh, and there's only two dates that we've have, have hammered down with speakers. The one will be May 17th, which will be at the courthouse. Uh, Peter Michael is talking, they had already, um, gotten, SRPT had already got him to come and talk. And so we're just going to make that one of the talks. Peter Michael does John Hanson. Who was the first president of the federation of, of states. And then September 27th is some guy named Francis Gray, who will be talking at the, at the HPC awards. And we thought that you could, um, you know, frankly, it already tapped you to talk about the native perspective on the revolution. And I've heard you talk about it on and off a little bits and pieces. So I'm looking forward to hear it all pull together. Uh, and then I'm going to be tapping Stephanie soon because I did talk

38:28to Michelle Waxman, Johnson, who was the head of the 250th committee for the state. They have given out all their grant money already. Those were cut off about a year ago. Um, but Michelle did give me some ideas about places to go, um, to, um, you know, to look for money and stuff. And she said to call her with any questions that I might have. She will be willing to help us. And Lucille Walker said that we should ask for a sponsorship. What we need basically is money for stipends and stuff like that. Uh, other people that we're looking at possibly our Dave Lasserman from up at, uh, Stone. Um, Linda is looking at people from the D.A.R. chapters to talk about women in the Revolutionary War. Um, Franklin is trying to get hold of the Hilda Brands. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of them. They do colonial music. Okay. Uh, and um, that's about all I have. Stephanie, was there something

39:32anything you wanted to add to this? Do you think I covered everything? Yeah, I think you have everything. I didn't, um, I don't see much more in my notes. Um, um, you did talk about Anita Gordon for women in the area. Yeah. Okay. We're not sure whether she's coming back from Arizona this spring or not. She's kind of spent. She's, she's a snow bunny too. So, you know, it's not a snow bunny. It's snow bird. So yeah. And but she, she does talk a lot about the women who lived in Fort tobacco. Um, also the other thing we discussed was if we raised money who's going to run the money because we can't really run it through the county. It'd be kind of hard to get grants. Sometimes it might be easy in some ways and not others. So we're just going to run it through SRPT, which saves us the county a big headache. And then, uh, refreshments will be tapping into Cal for his knowledge about how not to do it wrong

40:37in terms of the of the refreshments. And that's all I've got to report. So I'm going to try to have another meeting like in another week, like maybe the end of next week or the week after. I think we have one schedule for February 23rd at seven. Have that in my notes, but if that's not, hey, wow, you're more on it than I am. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Okay, is that it? Yeah, that's it. Okay. Okay, Mr. Cal, believe you're up there on some 2020, are we 2026 training? Yes, so we have our grant funding to pay for some trainings for you guys. Um, we have money for three trainings. Um, we've already picked those out. And we're, I just did the last three that were left over from the trainings offered by the Maryland Association of Historic District commissions. Um, so the three trainings are design review,

41:43law and procedures, and modernism for Maryland Historic Preservation commissions. Um, I was told to just let them know what dates work for you all. That's why I sent out that survey. Um, the most votes I got were March 10th, March 3rd, 12th, 17th, and 24th all of March. Um, I thought was maybe we do one in the beginning of March, one at the end, kind of break it up a little bit. Um, so I was going to do the third and the 24th if that works for you all, but it'll most likely be scheduled around this time in the evening. Um, on those dates and we'll ask about an hour and a half or so. So everybody is okay with good. I was like, finished, finished, finished, finished. I was just say, um, if everybody's okay with March 3rd and March 24th, I'll go ahead and schedule those two dates and they may we can do that the third class and some time in April. And what are the requirements for commissioners for taking trainings to the after-do one a year? Is that what it is? At least one, yeah. Yeah. So just remember you guys need to do a

42:48at least one training. Yeah. Are these the same subject matters that we had last year? Yeah. These are different. Um, there's about maybe seven or eight that's offered through that on their own association of his work district commissions. Um, I think we've already done about three or four. So this is the remaining ones. Okay. All right. Okay. Yep. So yeah, like I said, at that, uh, that third and 24th of March works, everybody, I will let them know that and we'll get those on the calendar. I'll send out an invite to everybody. Uh, it'll be virtual. I said similar to this virtual in the evenings, about an hour and a half. Um, and that is for these trainings that we already have funding for. I do have news that, um, we just got the notice to apply for. FY 27's trainings, which I applied for that already, uh, waiting to hear back, but should have no problem getting that funding as well. Um, since we're just about all out of all of the trainings offered through the mail and association of historic district commissions, um, they also suggested going to.

43:59The, uh, an APC, uh, we'll get up real quick. National Association of Professional National Alliance of Preservation Commissions. They also offer some trainings. Um, so want some of the train. I can send you all the list of available trainings for that one, but something I thought might be beneficial that we deal with on a monthly basis, um, section 106 review. That's one of the trainings offered. Um, there's reading architectural drawings. I know we had to do that a couple of months ago for Rich Hill. Um, and another one would be alternative alternative materials, uh, used for, you know, any type of historic renovation. So I'll send out the list. See if you guys have any preference. Um, and we'll go from there, but those are for, you know, in the future for next year.

45:00Um, so yeah, I think that's all I have as far as trainings. Thank you, Kyle. Blue crabs history day. Are we studying the history of the new crabs? Oh, yeah. I'm fun at the baseball stadium. Um, the, I think, like, media manager for the blue crabs are reached out to me on behalf, to be on behalf of the HPC, um, they're having a education at the park today. They're having one day for science, one day for history. They invited you all to join for the history day. Um, it's going to be, I asked today to clarify, but I believe it's probably going to be elementary school age students. Um, it's going to be on April 29th. Uh, they said gates open at 9.30 a.m. And then so probably about three and a half, four hours, but you don't have to stay the entire time. Um, they're just asking for a set of a table, talk to the students about, you know, the importance of history in Charles County. What do you guys do?

46:11Um, I've heard you talk to Esther. I think a good thing for them to do would be the archaeology lab set up that she has for the field trip students down in Port tobacco. Um, yeah, I've reached out to them to see if they have any other suggestions of things that might be entertaining for students that age that you could, but we could all do together, but I know the archaeology hands on stuff will definitely be a hit. So if anybody has any ideas of anything else, that would be good for students that that age, um, I'm all ears. Yeah, I already sent, I think I sent the invite out already for your account. If you need any additional information, just let me know. Yeah, we'll plan on do that on the April 29th during the day. Hey. Okay, next one is that's what it's going to be the Maconky one room screenhouse open. Now that's you, kill. Yep, I sent this around as well. Um, so it looks like they did some rehabilitation work on the interior of that one room school house that's over at the fairgrounds.

47:23Um, they're having like a black history month, um, open house type event and we were all invited to that as well. Here is the fire. That's on February 22nd from two to four p.m. Um, you do have to register for that. So just scan a little QR code on the invite that I sent around. Um, I plan on going at the Saturday or Sunday, sorry, Sunday. Um, I plan on going just to see I've, I've actually never been inside that building before. So it'll be cool to see, but, uh, you know, just for you guys to be invited to and help celebrate black history month. Yeah, and I'll be down for that one too. So I will tell you that once you do the QR code, you keep getting emails from those people, but you can on, on subscribe. So not not from the Maconky people, but from the people that run the QR code thing that register. So um, so. Okay. Uh, next on a list is, I guess this is going to be just another follow up on black history month there. Yeah, Cal and I met with, um, Cindy Jones, who is our media person. And what she wanted to do was to write some short biographies about some of the, uh, more notable African American residents of the county for black history.

48:49History month. And so what we settled on for the first one was Washington, birch, who's home, of course, birch houses in port tobacco village. And so I wrote up a really, really long bibliography. I mean, biography and then Cindy, Cindy did a wonderful job pairing down my wordiness to a nice paragraph. Um, and then the other place you can go for information from the county. Okay, let's see how my sharing, my sharing sway is opening is, is working tonight. Where is that thing where you can share other it is. Okay. Recreation in parks. If you go. Um, there they have a page African American voices. Uh, and then they talk about different places in the county. So you can see there's the birch house there. You click on it. It will, it will take you to their telling of this story. But we also have Alexandria Chapel.

49:57We have Carol Cemetery, a pulmunky historic district, Mount Hope Baptist. Yeah. So, and then you click on it. It takes you to, uh, To the different sites so you can learn some of the history. Here's here's Ruby cemetery. So, um, they didn't put another picture in here of it. So I don't know. Yeah, we're working on it. You're working on it. Okay. Yeah. And yeah, yeah. If you go to camp stand and you see my husband also. Right. It's all brown. That's my great grandfather in the Civil War. And, um, you got the church. You got, uh, Alexander Chapel. Um, so, yeah, a lot of great stuff. And I'm sorry. Go ahead. Don't forget, uh, also the, um, um, the, um, the video, the, the, the, the, the YouTube's on, um, uh, Africa. Um, what is it?

51:03Many, many branches, deep roots, many branches. And now what's, what Cindy's done for Washington, Birch does have the link to the Washington, Birch, deep root and many branches. But, um, there's several videos up about it. So, um, it's, uh, the Blue Jane Motel. It's Washington, Birch. It's, um, the Bill Wheeler story of the escape of the enslaved people from Charles County. Um, you know, so there's a lot, yeah, there's a lot of things that you can, um, click on to learn more about. And that's my only update. And I'll just, uh, preempt, uh, Francis by saying, I got nothing to say about archaeology because the ground's frozen. We're not doing anything. So, thank you all for there. I appreciate it. Um, community outreach there. Anybody have anything doing anything?

52:07I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. Of course. April the 25th, the commission will get an invitation to attend Nanjemoy African American ancestral day celebration. It's a celebration that coldenates a lot of work that has been done in the Nanjemoy area. Tell us a story and more detail about the cemetery. Tell us a story about the Carroll Farmhouse. Uh, there'll be some of the interesting stories there. It'll be held at Mount Hope Missionary Baptist Church. Uh, we have invited, uh, the county, uh, commissioners, the delegates, uh, Senator Ellis has been involved as well. He's been looking at what we're doing in the southern part of Charles County. I'm not southern western part of Charles County. So Mark your calendar March, sorry, April the 25th, 2025, 26 at 11 o'clock. And there's, there'll

53:14be an official flyer and an invitation coming up. Perfect. Thank you for reminding me of that time as well. Yes. Okay. Anyone else? That's it for me. Come on, Ruby. I know you have a whole lot more than anything. That's it. I'm closing my book. Oh, temporary. One thing that might have forgot to put on here was, um, just a small update to the Preservation Matters magazine for the 2250th anniversary. Um, I am still working with media. I told them that we would like to have it out, um, by October for the Preservation Awards. Um, and that we plan on having all of the articles to us and edited by the end of, I believe said June, July, by the end of summer. That way, that gives them a couple of months on their end to get it all put together.

54:16Um, Cindy Jones, who like Esther said is our media liaison for PGM. She is having a meeting with uh, Charles County media, um, to go over that plan to confirm that that's going to be okay. Um, I know we've already gotten one, uh, submission from Ben. So thank you for that, Ben. Um, if anybody else has any ideas for submissions, please feel free to add the four of them to us. Um, what anybody else know that, you know, you know, in the store community, if they have any ideas for some articles to submit, um, yeah. Yeah. Um, it looks like the date for the historic Preservation Awards that you guys said it at September 27th, which was the date we were going to have, uh, Francis do the talking. And that's a Sunday afternoon. So, you know, put that ahead. That's going to be in the same place. Hope it doesn't have to be relocated.

55:19No, that's why I'm making you go out to Sakaya for and walk up there so you can decide whether that's where you want to have it or not. You and Franklin. Yeah. It's been, it's been, it's been a few years since I've been up there. So I'm sure things have changed. Um, no, it's, it's parked. They're going up there, cut the grass and keeping it mowed. Do we know that? Yeah, I would find out too as well. No, Rico reached out to me, uh, about a year ago and we went out with Reckon Parks and we talked about the mowing and the neighbor has been mowing and the neighbor's going to continue to mow and Reckon Parks is going to do the edges with the bushwack, uh, once or twice a year to keep things from encroaching in our biggest problem out there has to do with parking and access because Cal and I have hot, have hiked out there. Um, and, you know, he's in, he's in good shape. I was okay. So I'm overweight and wheezy. So it got to me a little bit, the hike in there. Um,

56:26and Cal was very polite. I don't know whether he was wheezing or he's just pretending he was fine when we got out there. But for our, for elderly people, it's going to be, it's access is going to be a problem. So that's why I want you and frankly to go out there and I want you to talk to the neighbor and we figure out whether we can actually use this spot or not. Yeah, you know, up there, where Dr. King was actually having all of her, um, of students, um, when they were doing that survey, um, wow, that's been well back there. Um, you know, when you came, came up to the top of the houses to, to the left there. There's that was a couple of trees there off to the side where the field was. Um, that's where they parked their cars. We did a ceremony if they probably had about, probably about a good 10 to 12 cars there as well. I can't remember a slip since then to see

57:28exactly what that actually looked like when all the cars were up there. But that definitely would be a place for the, um, into the elderly, uh, to be able to park as well. Um, yeah, you just have to look what's down at the bottom, that bottom where that road is there. There's, there's not a lot. Yeah. So, um, definitely, uh, something to actually, um, look at there as we're going to be able to, and we're still coming off around five, correct? Yeah, you come off around five, you go on to windy nose. We thought we'd meet at the beginning of windy nose and we'll, we'll, we'll set that up when you come in. But as you can see, when you come in, you can see, um, can you see Kels? Yeah, so I can see his cursor there. So when you come in there, um, yeah, you know, you kind of like go around and like a little curve there to get up on top of that hill. Right. Well, that's where the house is. So that would be,

58:32that's back here, right? Yeah. So the field, the field that you see right there where there's a property line looked like that's inside the field. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, he is. Yes. So we would have a act film right here to that corner, that top left hand corner of the property line from the house you got your cursor on the house now. So right up in this corner here, would be the area where they would actually do some parking, but once again, it would have to be asked by the owner. Yes, exactly. So that's just something we're just going to have to have that conversation with. Yeah, you guys need to go out and actually physically see it and then you can work back to the commissioners and decide if that's what you want. Okay. Yeah, so the access and then if we do side of the site, we'll need, um, most likely tents. I would assume, uh, restroom facilities. So, um, as soon as we decide,

59:39as soon as we can plan. Okay. And I think that's everything that we have. Does anybody else have anything else before Francis sends us dancing on our merry way? Happy. Hey, well, next meeting is going to be March 11th there. I think Mr. Robinson is going to be possibly showing up. If not, I'll sit in the chair again. I don't know what this is. Yeah, he said it was his spring breaks that he should be available. Um, I won't be there. So you'll suffer under me. Sorry. So I think we've did quite a bit tonight there. So, uh, I'd like to go ahead and take a motion for a German so we can. You don't know how to hear there. I'll make a motion to adjourn.

1:00:42Thank you there, Stephanie. And anyone second? Thank you, Ben. And all those that are in favor of going on, uh, I can't wait. Okay. So is that thing so? Thank you, everyone. So thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone.