Hard Decisions with Weezy WTF

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2:04What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings. When you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you, I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious mind games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to mind games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ooh, we go author. Some people say entrepreneur if they want to talk to me about other stuff. Most people say podcasts if they want to pod about stuff, they think it's whatever you want. I'm comfortable with all time. Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose revealed the common threads that bind them all.

3:06So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what we've been trying to get to for almost 30 years. From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records, our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms and the community we create. Welcome to Naked Sports, I'm your host, Carrie Champion. Hey everybody, welcome to another edition of Naked. I appreciate you all being here. I haven't been in the intro in a very long time, but there is a reason. I am doing an intro. So today's guest is not necessarily an athlete or a politician for that matter, but I do believe that she lives in the intersection that this podcast tries to live in. And that's just culture, deep in the culture. It may not be your culture, but I would say it's culture. She is one half of the very popular podcast decisions decisions. It used to be known as horrible decisions, pronounced decisions decisions.

4:10She is an entrepreneur. She owns, if you were in New York area, trap house fitness, I don't know if you've heard of it. And if you are in LA and or New York and you are a podcaster or someone who uses TikTok and you rent studio space, she has WTF media. Her name is Weezy. I say all that to say in the beginning of the pod, we're like, well, what's your title? I'm like, let's do all the multi-hyphenets. I love how you think, I love how you move. My intention of interviewing her today wasn't to make this a podcast about sex, but of course, we talked about sex, but I am genuinely curious about her curiosity when it comes to having sex. And I'm also just really amazed at her liberation. I am amazed that at 35 years old, she talks about sex in such a positive way and she encourages women to feel the same. When we live in society and in a culture that says to us, no, no, no, you're not allowed

5:13to feel that. No, no, no, no, you're not allowed to do that. And it's really hard being the first in many spaces, staying sex positive, talking about it so freely, using your personal life as examples. That's an incredibly vulnerable thing to do. And it's even more courageous, in my opinion, to share. But when you share, people often judge. And she is finding herself in a very beautiful space, while I do love what I do. And I created this niche podcast about sexual freedom. I do want it to grow. I do have two scale in her words. So I think not only is this an interesting podcast about who you are, but I think it's more importantly interesting about the business behind who you are. I hope you enjoy this version of Naked Sports. I'm excited that you came on the podcast, but I want to start with a story. You have a very popular podcast, horrible decisions, but now it's called decisions, decisions.

6:14Why did you change the name? So Charlene gave us a book deal, No Holes Barred. And Mandy and I were concerned at the time. And I think PR was that we wouldn't be able to get on Good Morning America and all this stuff. If we had horror in the title, we would have been so burned over the last decade for how many things we can't do. I mean, even calling them out, Carrie, I tried to volunteer for Planned Parenthood. And they wouldn't let me do it because of the horror title and the word. It was meant to be funny and funny. And it just really hurt us and damaged a lot of our retention with ad revenue and stuff. We were actually at a long time, one of the biggest loss leaders on the Black Effect network because we had amazing numbers, but the ads wouldn't come. So we were great when they were pitching the sales teams, like, hey, we have this demographic of Black women and this is their age, but they couldn't sell it. So it was just strange. People listened, but they couldn't make money on the show. So we're like, you know, let's change it. And then once we changed it, we still couldn't go nowhere because what happened when you Google us? How?

7:14You know, I tried to let them know I'm not a whore anymore. Why the title? Why do you and Mandy come together to say the podcast should be called Horrible Decisions? Why? Where did that live? What was the pun, the funny? We were maybe having a conversation. I came up with Horrible, she came up with decisions, but it was like, you know, it doesn't matter what you do. You get a boyfriend, you wear a tight skirt, you're an extroverted, liberated, you're free spirit to grow up. You're the girl that likes to go to a party. They're always going to call you that. You know, one of my homegirls just got a BBL. This is a side track. I'm not joking. She's 48. She's having a low life crisis and she said, I got a BBL girl. I got to be sexy. I said, what you want to get? So she was walking down the street and she said, someone just called me a bird. And I was like, really? And she's like, oh my God, but like, I don't even do anything, birdish. Like, I have a law degree, I'm retiring young, like, what the hell? And it was just such a reminder of the title for the show. We just felt like Horrible, it doesn't matter what you do.

8:16If you talk about sex, that's what they're going to call you. So we just decided to say Horrible Decisions would be us talking about sex and kink and different things. And I've loved this title. I feel like Horrible is a staple for podcasts. It's been around a long time. So I've actually, I've been grieving it. I was going to say that when I listen to you talk outside looking at it and I'm a little older than you, but I love how sex positive you are. I love how liberated you are. It is something that I am as well. I just don't talk about it in that way, obviously publicly, but with my girlfriends, yes. But one of our very first times we hung out. I was like, tell me more about it. I'm naturally curious. I wasn't judging you. Tell me about experiences with three thumbs or another woman or I genuinely am a curious person about it. I remember Scorpada. Yeah. And you know, Terry, it feels really good to hear you say that because you're a woman.

9:16Everybody loves and respects. And when I say everyone, I just mean like the internet men, especially I had an episode or if you saw the clip, but Sarah Fontaine, something, she's a popular podcast, her Christian values and very loud about them. And we had a great time with her. And we were going back and forth a lot about marriage and desires and marriage and prioritizing. And I said, I'd put myself before my husband all day, you know, and she was like, yeah, you ain't ready to be married. Whereas we're talking, whatever, the last two weeks have been really difficult for me, seeing comments from people, Jezebel or a guy had something where he said, I need to throw holy water on her. And I was like, damn, because I put me first in the irony of my man asking my ringsides a few weeks ago and seeing that clip with me, Terry, and being like, you damn right, you put you first. Who the hell are you to me? If you can't be good, who the hell are you for me? If you aren't first for yourself, I want you to be putting yourself first.

10:19I choose to put in first on occasion, like maybe when I cook, maybe I'm a serve in first, but I'm going to be first. A lot of other people that follow the Bible or Christianity felt that I was wrong. When my partner watched his clip, Terry, and you met him, he was a sweetie. He was like, he said, I don't want you doing things that make you uncomfortable to please me. My boyfriend and I talk a lot about, he believes because I have a terrible relationship and have my little whole ears, and he'll say it's the whole part, but he's like, yo, you needed to go learn yourself and feel confident and be sexy because I don't know if I would have passed by you in the street the way that you talk about your mindset years ago when you were heartbroken. But I have been attracted to you if you would have been so down on yourself, like you became a woman that was spitting for me, and he's like, and I became that man too, right? Over time, the partners that we end up meeting, I really believe those years while we're alone,

11:25we're building for them. Like I was so negative, I was very like, niggas ain't shit, oh my god, like when Glow really came out with that song, I'm f-r-e-e, if it was out when I was going to do my face, it would have been a problem. But like, I think all of that ties into choosing me first. So being in love, knowing I'm headed toward a road of marriage and family and children, whatever, yeah, I'm still saying me, and I want to say it honestly. I think people look at you and judge what they don't understand, but there is a part of you that is so liberating that people can only aspire to be. But that's why I love you so. I love that you live in this space where you're like, all right, this is me, but you know what the best part about you is? If it hurts your feelings, you say it too. I love you so much for that. Thank you. And it's, I'm glad that you said that I talked to a friend of mine today, and I said, girl, I really want to have an episode where I can want to vent about how some of these things

12:27hurt me. So they could think that their words hurt, you know, I'm not a robot girl. Like, I'm mainly talking to my audience. Nobody's ever calling me a whore in my YouTube comments. So they're like, we too did for a fun story, right? They want the extrovert. They want the nastyness, the kinkiness, the wrongness or whatever of me. Even if it's a story about me having a moment of promise to you. But to see those that aren't in my demo and how they view what I call liberation, and they're like, this is, this is a blanket statement to, you know, to be nasty, to live without boundaries, to not take care of them. Those people, those people have never had an orgasm. This is me saying to you, as someone who is older, your liberation frees me and the more that you stay sex positive, the more encouraged I am to be myself. I don't have to be exactly like you.

13:27I do know that you allow people, whether you're trying to do that or not to be curious to ask questions, and to me, that's only this world can work. I do want to go back to the thought of you're not ready and someone telling you you're not ready. I am under the impression that when most people get married, they are not ready. You figure that out at what your partner likes while in marriage. It isn't because you are choosing yourself over your choosing your mate. You are still being honest about who you are, and then as you guys grow together and get married grow together as a couple, those things evolve, everything changes, and it could be, you could one day wake up and say, I do put him first in certain categories. Yeah. The answer could be evolved. It doesn't mean in this moment, you're not ready for marriage. I know plenty of people who got married, which church did the premarital counseling, said the right things, and did all the wrong things. And so your honesty tells me that you're married for a commitment. That's what your honesty says about who I am and where I'm at in my life.

14:29And if you're a partner who you're with chooses you, then he chooses you because you're being so honest. You know, you just said the word commitment. I believe people don't think I'm ready for marriage because of how our commitment looks. You know, we are sleeping with people together. We are very open and sexually free, and I believe because that does not resonate with other people's lives, they think that freedom is not non-committal. I tell this story. Oh, I feel like your listener is going to be like, whoa, who is this? They'll be like, I love her. They'll be like, I love her. I love her. I love her. Yeah, they don't be like, I love her. I approach every single interview like, everybody's rooting for me. Everybody is rooting for you. They really are. Oh, that is such a, I must tell that everybody's rooting for you. Everybody. Thank you. I feel that energy for the most part. I think, I think that, oh, sorry, I have 80-D tip for everyone who's listening. The moment that I knew this was it for me and commitment went really like, my partner

15:31and I went on a date with a woman from field, which is an app for nominogamy. We had sex with her. We had fun. She woke up. We woke up. It was like 9 a.m. And my mom's calling me like, get up. We got to see your dad. My father lives in a nursing home. My dad's 90 and I'm only 34 by the way, 35 weeks. So we're in the car dying carry. We was lit. The girl to get in the Uber home, we tied. By the time we got there, my boyfriend was so locked in with my dad. We're playing checkers, playing his favorite game, backgammon, and we're just engaged and we're having a great time. And it literally, let me know like, whoa, this is my husband. I'm doing everything I love in these 48 hours. The frivolousness, me playing games with my dad, you could give me a million dollars or one last day or my father to play games and that would be it. I would take the games, right? And I was just thinking of the duality of my relationship.

16:33That is commitment. He didn't want to get up and leave the bed, but he did. He showed up for me and my family. You know, he is a great person and the fact that we can lock in and do this and act as though that didn't even happen. That is what I want my life to be, fresh open experiences and family and fun and loyalty. So to me, that commitment is above all. That is the highest patina what I could ask for in love. But because we did that, somebody is going to think I'm not ready. And it's just the truth. I do believe that we are in a very interesting phase of this, the universe, the Zai guys, whatever you want to call it. I know that traditional relationships are fleeting. And I think that people are determining, especially early millennial, Gen Z, who knows what Jed Alpha is going to do, right? But everyone is determining how they want to be in a relationship. And some of us, even as we get older, like I'm telling you, girls in my home, girls are

17:36like, who've been married at the house, have the kids, they didn't get any divorce. They're like, yeah, no. I think I like being by myself and I am comfortable in my own space. And I'm hearing it more and more, relationships are what they look like are changing. And so I think once you 100% settle in, like, this is, and define what your stuff looks like, no one can rock that. So you change the name of the podcast, make sense. If it's affecting dollars, make sense. I'm right there. I'm a business woman. You're an entrepreneur. You understand what it looks like. You want to make money. Do you regret that decision? Yes. A horrible decision. A with an age. That was for me. I, my co-host being, I say the same. We've had conversations about this a lot, carry two. And it hit me that she might be aligned with me. I had on a woman named Tierra Dull. Oh, y'all is about to get dirty.

18:37We, Mandy and I live in different cities. So I flew to Atlanta. We shot three episodes of horrible, three episodes of decision decisions during my trip. Tierra Dull walks in with a man on the leash, a white man on the leash. And she goes, oh, I just wanted to use him as a footstool or if you guys want massages. You ladies do what you want to do, you know? And so the engineer for the day, we're like, are you comfortable? Is everybody comfortable? And they're like, yeah, we're good. Tierra starts telling us about how she's a dominatrix, how she sells her farts, how she beats men up for money, how do you white man be paying up the dollars. And I was sitting there and the guy on the ground. I said, can we interview him? She said, sure. He was like, yeah, I grew up in the church, you know, but I knew I had something a little screw loose. And I'm just so grateful to like not be a weird to y'all, to be weird to everybody. When they left, I said to Mandy, like, I didn't know how much I miss people like this. Real stories like this, real lifestyle like this.

19:37Now, to me and my man be walking around all these things up, no, but the mindset of sexuality, knowing these two people knew they were in a safe space and I didn't say something weird to them. I just love the exploration of like, kink and what people do, how they want to live their lives. I love other people's lives. I'm nosy. And I thought, this is the most exciting I've been in two years to interview somebody. But that's your space. That's where you live. Why do you think that is? Where did that come from? That doesn't happen overnight. Or did you always feel that way since you were a kid? Like I'm really into, I'm not, and then by the way, it's not even a defined term because when kids are kids and they're exploring bodies, like I know dudes would never say this, but I'm pretty sure you guys have some kinky sleepovers. Like when you seven years old, I know you touch your homeboys, y'all gonna lie and see it. Oh my God. But you did. You were my gay friends. I was touching. It was straight men too. The serpent. Yeah. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Like people have say, when did you get into your super power, but when did that curiosity

20:40come? I, one of the first lines in our book, Nohold Bard, I said, I was in a computer class, maybe under 10 years old, like a keyboard class, and I heard the dial up sound, and I thought I was getting ready to watch porn. That Freudian like, I was like, oh, is sex going to pop up? That's what I associated the internet too. And that's when I knew, okay, I'm a little cornyer than most people. And I didn't, I didn't have a weird uncle or anything, y'all, nothing crazy happened. I was just born this way. I felt like I'll see some doctor who marks lips where he's like, something happened to the sexualization. If you grew up, like if you're a heating, somebody touched you, no, it didn't. I grew up with a little bit of an affinity to women at the time. My mother told me she knew because I would be very jealous when friends would hang out without me. And she was like, it was almost too much. Girls would come over and be like, we won't sleep over, you won't sleep over. She was like, I knew it. I said, my kids go be gay.

21:40And I think because I knew I thought differently, that's where that came from. The journalistic side of it, I didn't understand what happened, but when a horrible decision started, it was supposed to be Mandy and I talking about our own little sex lives with no video, just being anonymous. And then I had other friends that did some weird stuff, a married couple of mine. I know that the husband's by, sometimes he sleeps with other men and the wife is like, whatever. And I was like, yeah, I got to interview y'all because I believe nobody else would believe this. But these people exist. And so to uncover that, to give them this safe space, to not be shameful, it feels really good. How I knew I was doing a good job at it, people would come on our show. And later, if someone found the internet and like shunned them for it, they'd be like, please delete it, please delete it. I spoke too much. I got to comfortable with you. And it's really just because they're kind of my tribe. You know, like much as I imagine an athlete would feel talking to you versus like TMZ or gossip love. And I think knowing that I created that space for black, kink folks feels good.

22:46When I walk into a sex shop sometimes, and there's a black, like employee, that's the first thing they say to me, it's a very weird connection, and my boyfriend jokes about it. He's like, you don't get stopped all a hundred times a day, but when you do, it's an intense emotion from that person. You're like, I learned the pop, pop, pop, I didn't, I'm like, I was supposed to go see you're in a master bedroom or I didn't know that, you know, you could do XYZ or I found my boyfriend on this website because you brought it up. I didn't know there was a group of people like me and he's like, oh, they feel like they owe you something. Like I opened this weird door in a way. So just knowing from discovery and bringing on people that are like, mind it, it's just that part of it. I felt like it was ripped away from me when we changed the title. I feel like I just have a dating show right now and I don't care about it. That's what I feel. What do you mean you don't care about it? I don't care about it. I feel like that's anyone that wants to make like a dating and romance show. It's just like, oh, I want to make money from this thing. I feel like it's like I'm not putting effort in, even though I am, you know, we work very hard to create decision decisions, but I feel like that's the output.

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25:58What if mind control is real? If you get control of behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, NLP, might actually work. This is wild. Listen to mind games on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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28:04Here's something that's interesting. When you talk about this, there is a joy and an excitement that you have that I think only is fitted for passion for people who are passionate about what they do. You said something that I want to explore. Why is it odd or what is the connection that black people who are interking or listening to horrible decisions? What does that try feel like to you when they interact with you or connect with you? Well, the horror high, right? So how I started this episode, how I was upset with those people leaving comments. I know we were all pretty much raised the same way. You think or you got on a crop top or you want to talk to somebody you fast, right? We heard period and my white homegirls like my mom, that's my boyfriend sleep over. Not us. You know how dare you. It's the Obama thing.

29:04He had to be the best president in the world. You can't be black in this, you know? And so I see it. I see it with horrible decisions all the time. You cannot be black and kinky. You cannot be black and permissioned. You cannot be black and polyamorous. You just can't. There's no room for it. My partner is Nigerian, right? The brothers, law, medical, you know what I mean, education. He was like, nah, I'm not really feeling this. Think I'm going to invest. How dare you? You know, you, I come to this country and now you want to be an investor. Like. So true. So true. So true. You have any African friends you already know? Is this true? You could do that too. Oh, yeah. And I think that's really what it is, right? Is that we all grew up the same and we were told we had to follow this way. So to kind of be black and alternative is just the thing that kind of like really gets me. I remember going to like braves and stuff like that when I was young, sneaking out and

30:04I saw a black girl there, I'd be like, oh my God, we're like one of a kind. Like it's us, sister. It's just us. We're the only ones that work the house music. And so I think when it came to black king spaces, that tribe, what they mean to me is knowing we're all the rejects in a way. I like misfit energy and it feels very good. I love somebody saying something crazy and no one going ill. But what if someone does, as you talked about in the beginning of this episode, when people make those comments, it's still you, what does that feel like when someone says ill or judge you? I think for me, the only reason I heard is because it was by the thousands this week. But you're like the value of it all. I don't know what you want, the volume of it. But there's always going to be one that says that, but it doesn't matter because I'm not even going to see the comment here, they're going to be like, no, we have these out here for the girls. Like we're that community, right? We're making each other feel safe in our choices. However, I think that's what I know that we brought to each other.

31:05Like we do a live episode of horrible every month, right? The onions, they're Mike, it's just fans in it with me and Mandy, just like on zoom. Someone onions might like, oh my God, so my boyfriend and his boyfriend are going to come over tonight. And so what I'm telling my girlfriend is, and we all just sit there like, yeah, right? And it like, it's crazy, but is it crazy? That for you. That's right. Not for you. Not for you. Not for you. You're trying. And no one that we have that with each other is so special like my, on my fourth date, my boyfriend three years ago, we went to a place called Last Lap in New York to staple black bar in the lower east side. He knew I had a podcast, but he didn't understand. And his girl comes out to me carry in tears. And she goes, we easy like, I, I haven't had sex in four years, I've been going through so much trauma in an abusive relationship because my husband slapped me during a sexual act I wanted to try.

32:05And I wanted to do something kinky and he was like, yo, like, you are pretty much an abomination. Like where did you get the ship from? She's like, he told my parents, he made me feel like I had no relationship to God anymore. Like it was just, he really messed with her head emotionally too. And she was like, and last night, she's like, I feel like God brought me to you. Last night I had the most amazing freeing sex. He made me feel special. It was romantic. I got to have a rebirth. And my boyfriend's sitting there like, what the fuck did this bitch do? What is this podcast you do? And it's so basic, right? Someone is going to listen to this and be like, girl, all you do is talk about what I was like I did. But the point is, there's something that made this girl feel seen. And if I did this for 10 years and all this strife with for that girl, then that's what I did. Like I don't know how she felt normal. I don't know what episode activated that in her. But like, nah, like that's the thing that gets me excited. And it's not the decision's decision isn't special because that also is.

33:07I think it's that I've been doing something for so long. I'm learning a new thing. What in that new thing would be if you had to describe it, just you're learning to what assembly we're referring to decisions decisions. What is this new thing you're learning? I'm learning how to scale. I'm learning that that niche show that I had at the end of the day. That decision's paid was maybe 50% less than my down payment on my home. So then anyway, when you want to click and do a little stalking and you know, Carrie, but you don't know me. Here's some key for you. She bought a beautiful home in California in the hills with oranges. I was all on a page. And when I said we're all rooting for you, when I tell you we were so happy for you, we all felt home when you bought a home. I felt that energy. I actually ran into a girl at Trader Joe's who was like, oh my God, I've been shouting from the view that she would have been a neighborhood girl. I'm so proud of you. It was so sweet. And I think we feel that like when we see someone grow, my followers know I've been bringing

34:09it and it was the struggles at the beginning of the show. I moved my mother, you know, my mom lives with me now. My dad's nursing home is nine minute. I moved his place. So we're all together. Decision decisions had such a big check the first year of the name change that it was literally I was like, oh, I can afford to buy now. I've had to make so many other businesses y'all might know me from like trap house or the podcast studio that like now my biggest venture, however, everyone knows me actually made me money. It was making me feel sad and happy at the same time because horrible decisions to me is more important to the culture. It is more reputable is not reputable. It's more recognizable as a brand. It's more popular. I get less listens on decision decisions for more money than I did when it was horrible. It's like a sell out in a weird way. Hmm. Or is it? I don't think the fans think it is because they want Mandy and I to do well because they've been around so long, but like, yes, it is.

35:11I'm called her daddy, but poor. The call her daddy girl, the snake tofu friend and her talking about sex and being these cool white girls that blah, blah, blah, and now she interviews Kamala Harris. No, I want to say something about that. The life of a black woman, a black or a brown woman marginalized, we are not allowed to have certain joy in society at scale. Like a woman, a woman like I interviewed Jane Kennedy, a legend in her field and she's 75 years old and she's essentially, yeah, her career ended because a sex tape came out when you have someone like Kim Kardashian who is a billionaire now because of a sex tape. Or I can list a bunch of women that I work with who have tapes that are not black, that have allowed them to be curious about sex and it's not viewed as something bad. It just isn't. Unfortunately, Joy, I think Joy is taking hits for no reason, right?

36:15I think people have been, and we don't even know, that's conjecture, that was a loss, so we don't even know what's going on with it. They don't even know. It's none of our business. Most importantly, but if she's not able to take this moment and flip it and become a billionaire, like somebody else could, right? Like for instance, black women could, like, I think of Kayla Nicole, I'm going to do her part tomorrow. I think I look at her and what happened with Travis and while they were together, he couldn't stay faithful, but then he flips and he gets this, he gets tailor of all people, right? The biggest star we have and it's a different, he's a different human, he's moving differently, he saw it differently, and she has to, and a good to her credit, I think she's trying to make that moment happen and make some money off of it. She's trying to scale. Oh, yeah. I saw that Super Bowl commercial. I think she's scaling that moment. I'm not going to comment. I know she ain't give a fuck about it. Get your money. She didn't care. Get your money.

37:15So I think what you're saying is a direct reflection on the archaic ideas that we still have in society about black and brown women. And Kari, can I tell you, Kayla is a phenomenal example. The day that we found out Travis was dating Taylor, a mutual friend of ours that called me and said, what you doing? I'm about to go to Kayla's house. Do you want to come? And she's like, I'm bringing flowers. And candy. And I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, have you spoken to Kayla? She's like, really upset? And she's like, girl, it doesn't matter. Do you know what they are? And that's about to do on her page. Do you about to feel they about to find out who Kayla is and she's going to be on the white blogs now. This one that morning, she's like, it is beyond the shape of Kayla, but they get it from everywhere. Four days later, Kayla texts me. I need to come to WTF. I need to record something. Because I need to get this out. And that was that little, I don't know if it was maybe 10 minutes or six minutes or whatever

38:17she did where she was like, dear black girl. Do you remember that? Yeah. I do. They're calling her. Let me tell you something. I think about Beyonce and I think about Kayla because Beyonce basically made the Becky with the good here thing and let us all know you can be Beyonce and get cheated on. And then Kayla makes me realize, you can be the bad and black girl online. And they're still going to tear your ass up. What is there wrong to say about this girl? She's nothing. She's a cutie. She's college educated. No. Come on. But she's feeling what you're feeling too. While at the same time she's learning the skill, there's a part of her that wishes that she didn't have to withstand the judgment that she shouldn't have to withstand. Neither should you. This is your choice. This is what you love. This is your niche podcast brought you joy. It is a special place where you have created a culture for people to feel free. And that is a special thing to do because everybody can't lead by example. And that's what you were able to do with your show. You am Andy.

39:18And in my mind, I'm all like, don't lose that. I get, we got to make our buddy because this is what we got to do in this crazy world. But don't lose that. And for Kayla, don't lose that. Like, yeah, I'm, we, honey, you won. The people who matter know you are. The people for you. Tony Braxton. But she won on the traders. She literally won figuratively, not, I mean, literally not figuratively on that damn show. And you know what? I just spoke about her a few days ago. I'm shooting in L.A. I'm one of the producers of the show. I was like, let me hit Kayla. She ain't been in a hard way yet. He was like, how many more clips can we take of her talking about Travis? And I'm like, first of all, oh boy, Kayla goes on a show, they go ask her, do I give a shit? I actually would do everything not to talk about him. You're gonna dance around it. Girl, I'm sorry. I'm gonna talk about them. Yeah. Okay. I'm all set. We're all set. Like, but I get why Kayla and people will say in the comments, I'll hear she go again. Do you think she goes, she goes on a show and be like, let me tell you guys about my

40:20answer. Of course not. Of course not. She's trying to take this moment and move beyond it. And sorry, y'all had Kim do it. Y'all had Kim flip this sex tape with Ray Jay's ass and now she a billionaire and y'all buy it on her clothes. Stop it. Let her go by. Let's see, Kayla have a come up just like that, and I do think this is a good question to ask you. The reason why we talk about names, I came up with naked because I wanted to have people who are completely honest. There are only so few people who live in that space and you live in that space. I think you should do a pod where you talk about it, hurt your fillies because it's hard to be the first. What it comes with is a lot of expectations, responsibility, misunderstanding and judgment. And if people are judging you for what you like to do in your bedroom, then that's on them. I didn't even get into your boyfriend when I went on your fourth day. Was he into this world? How do you know me? I am so curious. But how does one get a man and be like, oh, because if I am my mind, I know a man would

41:21be like, dope. I hit the, okay, I hit the ladder. Yeah. You think she want to bring other girls. She don't mind if we do this, like we get, she don't care how freaking we are. I've laughed so, like, I would think. Carrie, here's the thing, it's the lottery when they just want to put it. But those men don't necessarily want to be with a woman that enjoys sex with multiple people. That just is crazy. I remember the last person I had really been in love with was a bartender. I hope he never hears this, but it was something that I was very in love with him. He was so smart. He was so cute. He was so groy. He was, we weren't compatible, but the moment I knew we weren't compatible, he was at work and talked about how these girls have flirted with him. And I was away in Mexico. And I was like, you should let one of them taste it and then it caught me and told me what

42:22happened. And I was thinking, I was being cute. And he was like, he didn't reply and he called me on the way home and said, I don't like the two of you just want me to treat me like this sexual thing. Why would I want to do that? I want to be with you. And I was like, I don't know you want to be with me because like, you tell me you want to be like, well, I'm gone, and then I wanted to have a drink with just no girl I liked that I thought was cute. That was in town. And he was like, yo, you desiring other people doesn't turn me on. And that is a version of love to him. I don't give a shit if my girl wants to bring a girl in the bedroom. You want somebody else, right? There's a thing called compersion. I don't know if you've ever heard this word and maybe a lifestyle sex people turn. But it's the joy in seeing other people happy. Everybody felt compersion for me when I bought the house. Compersion is the joy of seeing a partner happy in every way and it has no limit, right? I did not know when meeting my man that that would happen.

43:27I think the first date, I felt a sex, sex, the energy are kinky and then we talked a little bit on the second and third or fourth, but the way that I knew if there was real compatibility in it, because I've never really met a man that didn't want to freeze him, is when, oh, he always told me, we got an argument the first time he went to the sex club, right? And this is advice for anyone listening. You may get a little worked up in this episode and say, fuck it, let's try it out. Let's try it. So we went to this sex club and we didn't really have much talk about what our boundaries would be, what we would do, what would make us feel respected or not. I came out of the bathroom or a conversation with somebody and basically saw him talk into this girl. I felt like it was too long and I left. And when he called me, like, where are you blah, blah, I'm like, oh, you're not fucking right now? And he's like, hold on. You think I'm coming to the sex club for new pussy, like I needed that bad? I came to the sex club to experience something with you.

44:30I don't need new pussy, I'm a grown-ass man, like this is where my focus is. If I was talking to someone or playing on that energy and you don't want me to talk to someone while you're not around, I would have respected that. You don't need to leave me. You don't need to walk away for me, he's like, and even the, for you to go walk out the door and think that you not being in a room would make me feel like I had this freedom to fuck. I don't need freedom like that. I want you, I want to have an experience with you. And I was like, okay, wow, now we're in alignment. Because open relationships for a lot of people are women being taken advantage of because men want to fuck multiple women. That's true. I'm poly. No, you're not. Maybe you just got other hopes. No, you're not. You're poly, everyone, away from your head. I saw it. No internet. I want to be on an open relationship. You know, I like this floor, but I'ma come home to you. No, and then the woman ends up getting into this thing because she feels like that's all she can do.

45:30She feels like that's men today. That's not okay to me. I encourage monogamy because I don't think there's lifestyles for everybody, but that is the moment when I knew like, okay, we're into the same thing because I always felt like the desires that I had couldn't be shared with men because they would just label me with a scarlet A or the way I'm hearing that story. You can tell me if it's wrong. I heard, I really care about this, dude, and he's trying to connect with this woman on a level that I don't like if you see him talking to someone, talking is a whole different vibe. Like if you can get my mind, it's a wrap. You had everything else. Oh, yeah. Right? What happened in that moment, actually, if I could walk back to the feeling, I thought, I actually, to this day, don't care if he's talking to a woman without me. I just thought he wanted to do something separate from me. So I thought, oh, he's going to have to do something where I don't need to feel like today. If I come back and my man is even smiling and talking to a woman, yes, a different thing.

46:30Like, you think I think he about to give her and leave me now? What advice before I let you go? What advice would you give to women who I believe don't understand their sexual freedom or are comfortable with their sexuality or are comfortable with desiring sex the same way of man desires sex? I'm about to get dark a little bit. That's okay. I have a friend who's sick and she is married. We got drunk. She's not even supposed to be drinking during chemo, but she said to me, why did I never teach him how to eat my pussy, sweetie? And I said, what do you mean, even when you're like 12 years, I was like, you ain't never told him it wasn't good. She's like, I just want him to be happy, you know, I'm happy in my life, we got the kids like, I'm just happy. What I'm about to do? Guess I'm new dick. And I'm like, girl, no, you tell him what you like.

47:34You tell me it's been uncomfortable and weird this whole time. And where am I advice? You asking me this question may have been different six months ago. We haven't this experience with her, has been lingering with me, Carrie, because I'm just like, don't make this clip, by the way, because I don't want her to relive this moment. But let's let this sit, which I'll listen to, GP will do. I'll say that's the only time. This is someone that's in their 40s. That's going to leave this earth, we never have an orgasm in that way with her husband. And I, and I literally said to her, bitch, you gotta say it tonight, and she's like, no, she's like, I would rather die without thinking, he fucking shit out of me. And we laughed together about that moment, but I would. I think we are all too young. We could say 60s old, we could say whatever's old, but when they die, we say they died too young. I really don't think we're living for ourselves. I think we're living to make things not awkward sometimes. Can't tell you how many times I've worked with somebody I don't like, and I never tell them today face, or they do something I don't like, and I just talk shit with my home

48:37girls. Sexuality is the most intimate, personal thing in the world. So it's like, if you aren't exploring your kinks, the things you like telling someone, leaving the open door for it, I would say this, even a more direct way for those of you in a relationship. If you're not all the way pleased, and you don't know how to spice it up, and there's a particular thing you want, the easiest advice, you gotta send it in the link to a porn. That's what you gotta do. You gotta be like, ooh, this looks crazy, this looks fun. You gotta grab a hotel first daycation, and for some reason, everybody gets turned up like that. Whatever it'll cost, if you can get a rope, $100, whatever you do, just get it out of the house. For some reason, that really helps people with breaking those inhibitions down. For single people, I would say this, ladies, if you're looking to meet your husband, and you're looking to meet the most amazing person, Hawaii, whoever, you can still enjoy yourself. You could still have fun. You are not giving nothing up just because you chose to have sex with someone. You gotta stop looking at this.

49:38I'm not gonna give him that. He don't deserve it. You deserve sex. All of the people in my life that be acting like that, I'd be like, you ain't had dick in like months, but you're saying he don't deserve it, but you also need to get it. So what you're gonna do? As long as you're safe not hurting yourself or compromising other people, why are you so worried about that? Why do you leave? Why is it a walk of shame? Why don't we leave a nigga house and feel bad? But I don't, and I used to do it too. The only time you should feel bad is Alfie. But I'm glad you should be enjoying it. You don't have a whole friend, less than a horrible decision, because I'm a celebrity, a whole sheet. But I can give you a homelike, why are you doing that? And I hate that I took my friend with cancer. Now I'm gonna have to call her. I told her, I said, yo, I'm letting you know bitch. You're about to be my excuse. Mm-hmm. She was like, oh my god, oh, hey, you ain't dying today. Are you gonna be my excuse today and end it till the end?

50:40And I'm telling you, it really has been teaching me a lot, like, to watch someone young in reflection and sex is something they reflect on is just very pivotal for me. Amen, amen. Follow Weezy. How do they follow you on all your socials? I know we, I'm gonna talk about trap house because y'all want to do, you got to do Pilates. You could do it in LA. Do you have trap house in LA? Did I make it? Oh, I need it. Okay, you have it in New York. Okay, you have it in New York. Lower East Side. People swear by it. You didn't even know my makeup artist went and she was telling me, she was like, it was the best experience she ever had. Oh. WTF media. You can, you can, she's the entrepreneur. This is the entrepreneur side. You can run out all of her spaces. You guys did a white side. I think that's dope. Yeah. You want to make a podcast? If you want to just do a little TikTok clips, I have podcast studios in New York in LA, trap houses. Pilates studio, the place, trap house music. Those are my two favorites. See, that's the little alternative black group. It's like, I want to see future in New York. I need to see a Calvin Harris. I don't know. You can have all the things. You can't, you can live in so many spaces freely and you are a living example of that.

51:43It's women's history month. We've been shot out to the women. Are we not giving them up to the women? Weezy. I love you so much. Thank you. I know you're a ride. And that story stuck with me. I'm sure you're liberating some folks. Decisions, decisions, y'all. In fact, not work, but make sure you'll follow her or do the paywall horrible decisions, right? Five bucks a month and you get all the dirty stuff. That episode I talked about by the way with the man on the floor, I'm going to put that on decision decisions with this week. I have to. I have to. The people, the needs to remember what you do just a little bit, so you know, just to tell you, if you ever want to have a seat, you know, I do. You know, I do. I was waiting for you to invite me. I was waiting. I have lots of stories. I have lots of stories. I like to share a story or two. I don't know how to talk about how I want to talk about what it's like to be a woman in media and how these men be treating you actually. Girl, you just said something that I thought was really interesting. You said, we're not living to be free, we're living to, we're living to be not awkward or not have awkward moments. And I get, that's, that's going to be the name of the whole pod.

52:45I can tell you all my awkward moments that I was living through. Not anymore. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I still do it. I still have that same issue at CNN. I really do not know for it. Sometimes it's just, is it worth it? Like, I usually take that approach now. It's like, is it worth it? No, I'll leave that there. You know, or I handle people differently because it doesn't affect me emotionally because I'm so sturdy and who I am now, but it took a while to get here. That's it. It's like, if I know it's not going to bother me, I won't bring it up. No, no, no, no. It's like, that's what it is. Yeah. So the moral of the story is tell everybody how to eat your kuchi. My friend wants to end it at the end of the day. Thank you, weezy. Have a good one. Well, that's the moral of the story, right? Make sure somebody is pleasure in you before you leave this place. Jeez, that was heavy. But true. Having said that, I want you guys to don't forget, download, subscribe to my podcast and my new latest project with Jamel Hill is called Fliggered and Funny and it is so hilarious.

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