Haleen Said NO to EMI

Radio Detox: Haleen on Nostr, Ivy Lumi, and Music as Vibration

Heather sits down with Ashna and Kathleen of Haleen, the ambient duo first introduced to Radio Detox by Seth from Zap Cooking. Seven months on Nostr and everything changed. They talk about rebuilding their studio, mastering Ivy Lumi's new single, and why no traditional music platform has ever been designed with the artist in mind. We also getting into why they said no to a deal with BMI.

In This Episode

Haleen turned down a BMI deal years ago and never looked back. They sold their studio gear to survive. By the time they found Bitcoin and then Nostr, the dream was nearly over. Seven months in, they have more real connections than in all the years before combined. Ivy Lumi found them through that network. Now they are mastering her album.

Heather brings her yoga teacher perspective to the conversation. ASCAP and BMI will come after a five-person yoga studio for playing music on a speaker. Fountain and Wavlake let yoga teachers pay artists directly and cut the PROs out entirely. That is the pitch she is taking to every yoga teacher she knows.

Ashna played support for Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Whitesnake in a past heavy metal life. The music changed when the energy did. Now it is ambient, healing, and still making people cry at live shows for entirely different reasons.

Chapters (for the video version)

00:00 Haleen Is Here

01:45 Mastering Ivy Lumi's Blunt Knife

03:00 Seven Months on Nostr Changed Everything

05:14 Music That Wakes Something Up in You

07:00 Yoga Teachers and the Music Rights Problem

13:00 How Haleen Found Bitcoin and Nostr

16:00 Turning Down BMI

17:30 Selling the Studio to Survive

22:00 Nostr Is Made for Humans

27:00 SoundCloud Took Their Streams and Paid Nothing

28:00 No Platform Is Built for the Artist

32:00 Post Once, Show Up Everywhere

36:00 Explaining Sats to People Who Think Bitcoin Is $77,000

39:00 Ashna's Heavy Metal Past

41:00 AC/DC at 13 Changed Everything

47:00 Geyser Helped Rebuild the Studio

48:30 Kathleen Is Back and New Music Is Coming

49:00 Bitcoin Film Festival Warsaw

50:00 Seeing Haleen Live Is on the Bucket List