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This is the Alien UFO podcast episode 221, and I'm your host Simon Bound.

You can enjoy the extended version of this episode at free, along with over 200 hours of extended

episodes on Patreon. This week, I'm talking to Peter Curry about his alien encounters.

Peter is an experiencer whose accounts have become associated with one of the most widely

discussed and scientifically examined UFO abduction cases on record. A pivotal event in Peter's

experiences occurred in 1992, when an encounter resulted in a strand of alien and blonde hair

being left behind. I'd Peter, thanks a lot for coming on the podcast.

Why should I have me, thank you. But I wanted to talk to you about all your UFO experiences

and alien contact. So if we could start off, could you tell us what happened when you were 7

years old on the roof? I did grow up in Lebanon on a coastal town. My mum and dad came from

neighbouring towns. So we grew up. My mum's town was known for its seafood and fishing and my

dad's town was known for its beaches. So I had the best of both worlds. I was there till about

the age of 7 and a half before we migrated out. In the summer of 1971, a bunch of kids, my cousins,

friends and I were playing on the road. Summer there was like three months, school holidays.

So you had a lot of time on your hands to, you know, parents wanted you out of the house and playing

and you know, doing the thing, staying out of their hair. So yeah, we'll play in and one of the

guys called out, let's go play on the roof of the building across the road, which was owned by

the Umar family, which translated sort of means Moon family. All it does mean, Moon family.

As we ran across the road, my little cousin, she was younger than me, probably a year and a half

younger than me. She was running behind me and I felt bad, so I let her get in front. I slowed down

and let her get in front. As we ran around the side of the house and then walked through a doorway

and up the stairs and onto a landing on the first floor to get onto the roof, there was a security

door, a steel security door that was hinged on a metal frame and it was about three inches off

the ground. It was a solid frame, holding a solid steel door and usually any time we played on

those roofs, on all our roofs, like all different, you know, houses, roofs and on the coast and

Lebanon, flat roofs and you grow vine trees and cubby houses up there and a lot of people spend a

lot of summers there. So it wasn't like a dangerous thing that we were doing or, you know, it was

something dangerous. Usually when we ran onto this particular roof, as you ran through the door,

one or two people might get through it and then all of a sudden from its weight,

it'd spring back to clothes and whoever was running, you'd have to put your arms out in front of

you and push it out the way. So it swung back and then it'll come back again and you know,

someone else would have to push it. On this particular day, I noticed that as all my friends and

relatives and cousins ran onto the roof, I was keeping an eye on the door. I could see that it was

it stayed open. As my little cousin ran through it, I was, you know, worried that it's going to

come back and hit her and it probably knock her out. So she got through and the door stayed open

and then as I ran towards the door and stepped over that frame, I had my arms out in front of me

so I could push that door because I was sure that door was, you know, any time it was going to come

back and close and it closed really, you know, it's solid because it was heavy. But it didn't,

it just stayed open and as I ran past it, I remember looking back towards it and thinking it's still

open. As I turned around, took my gaze off the door and I turned around and looked over onto the

roof. I noticed that all my friends on the roof were like frozen, like statues, like mannequins in the

shot. No movement whatsoever. They took, you know, some of them took maybe four, five steps,

passed that door, some of them maybe a couple of steps passed the door, but they were, you know,

spread it out in a group and I noticed not one of them was moving, they were all just statues.

I thought it was a game and you know, I was the last one on the roof and they got me, I mean,

I've got to, you know, be the joke of the day sort of thing. So I walked up to them and I started

trying to tickle them and I couldn't get a reaction. I tried to tickle them around their ways

under their arms, you know, under their throat, like on their neck, couldn't get a reaction at all.

I didn't even see them move. I didn't see them breathing. I didn't, and I keep repeating this.

I didn't see a glider in their eyes. It was like they weren't. There was nothing there.

I was expecting their eyes to move or then to giggle or something, nothing, I got nothing.

There was another kid who was older and taller than I've so I went up to him and I went to tickle his

throat as I looked up and I tried to reach up to his throat as I looked up towards him, above him

I, oh, above our soy sore, egg-shaped object, the silver object. It was on a 45 degree angle,

say, imagine the wider part of the egg on the bottom and the horny part up the top.

And there was a really big oval-shaped tinted window that covered most of the front of this

craft. But the craft was silver. It was probably the biggest of VW Beetle, the older style VW

Beetles. And that particular family had that exact same car. That's what I could compare it to

something I could compare to. There was an egg-shaped object hovering above us and it was hovering

about 30 metres above us. And as I'm looking at this thing, I see through the window, I could see

two figures, the silhouette of two figures. I couldn't see any features at such, but I could see

that they were thin, tall. All I saw was like the shadowy figure in there because of the

tint of the window, I guess. But there was two of them and they were sitting, unlike our pilots

in helicopters, would be sitting down. These were leaning on the 45 degree angle and they

were sort of sitting leaning forward. And what I noticed, they'd look like they were confused

at some point because the one closer to me, like the one sitting on the left of the seating,

would look over at the guy in the right seat and they'd look at each other, they'd

look at each other and then look back at me and they did this really quickly. They'd look at each

other, have a conversation and then look at me. I don't know if they were freaking out that I wasn't

frozen like my friends were. I couldn't tell you, but I could tell that they were having a

discussion and then the object dropped about five metres. It got closer to us as I was trying to see

if I could see what they looked like, their features or more so on the object. I didn't see any

rifts on it, I didn't see any landing gear, I didn't see any propellers. And we used to have

Israeli or say Israeli because that's what we were told is kids, but I'd say they were maybe

Lebanese army helicopters and they would drop propaganda, they would fly low over the town.

You could see the sole just sitting on the side hat on the doorhank with his legs hanging

down onto the landing gear, they'd throw propaganda and we'd run around and collect all these

different colour papers, didn't care what was on the papers, it wasn't political, but

yes and we were accustomed to seeing helicopters all the time. This was definitely no helicopter.

So as I'm looking at it, it dropped another couple of metres so it was so much closer to us at

this stage, started off being about 30 metres and now it's just around the 20 metres and I'm

actually thinking after that it did it the second time, I was thinking this thing's going to land,

like it could easily have landed on the roof, it was plenty of room and I was thinking this thing

might land. As I'm looking at it, the next memory I we all have is that we're downstairs on the

ground floor, in the entry some of us were sitting on the steps that led to the roof and some of us

were standing, standing around and we were questioning each other as we were sitting there,

you know, young kids, like we were saying each other, like our last memory was being on the roof

and we were playing in or you know, we just ran on the roof. The next memory is we're downstairs

on the ground floor, we were asking each other how we got there and like we were saying each other,

how did we get here, we were up on the roof, we had no memory of how we got there and as we were

doing that our parents we heard our couple of our parents calling out to us in the street.

Someone, you know, one of the kids stuck the head out the door and said, oh we're here, we're here

so the parents come in and they were really ropeable, they were so upset and I was like, where have

you guys been? And we were like, we were up on the roof and as soon as we'd say we're up on the

roof, whoever the kids that belonged to those parents would get a smack on the butt on the back

of the legs, you know, parents demanding we tell them the truth what we were doing and I assume,

you know, they might have thought we were up to something, naughty, been kids playing some games

or something but we just didn't hear anything or anyone calling us. So every time they'd ask we

repeatedly say we were up on the roof and then at one stage they were like a few were up on the

roof. Why didn't you respond? We've been looking for you for over two hours, we've been screaming

your names out. If you were on the roof, you shouldn't have responded. Now we didn't tell them why

I didn't tell them, oh, they were on the roof and they were frozen and I saw this object and

it didn't happen that way. It wasn't, you know, an era for it and I wasn't brought up in that

environment at all where, you know, talking about UFOs or aliens on that in the 1970s or early 70s.

We just didn't discuss stuff like that. That was an experience that I had and I've always

remembered it but I never let it affect me or let it drive me and I have to go and find out

what I saw or anything. It was just there. It's an experience I had.

What did they look like? Were they like graves or did they look different to that?

Look, I couldn't give you a description in detail of their features because I just saw like a

silhouette but they were very thin, very tall. Their heads were oval shaped but not very large.

They would definitely would look at each other, communicate, have a discussion, then look back at us.

They did that a number of times so I don't know if things went wrong, didn't go to plan

and they were concerned about something or another but yeah, so the next memory I have from

being on the roof and trying to tickle the other kid and seeing this object is where downstairs and

there was no no discussion about the actual egg-shaped object or then freezing in time. We just

didn't discuss that. Do you remember if there was sound or did you have that thing that some people

report in that sort of situation? It's almost like you're suddenly in a bubble on its silent.

Well, it was very quiet. I'm not going to pretend like there was. Yeah, no,

it was quiet. I didn't hear much sound. My recollection of it is pretty, pretty good like I

remember details. I remember a lot of the things and yeah, I didn't hear any sound. Not like the

object made any sound or I didn't even hear bird sounds. Then you've got to understand the house,

the roof that it happened on was across the road from our family's home and there was a

on one side of it was a vacant lot which still vacant to this day and then behind it,

there was just fields. It was like you know a wheat fields or whatever and no housing. There was

no housing behind it and I've got a couple of really pictures from recent satellite images and

still you can still see how many years later now and you can still see that behind this property

in the street where my parents were lived in. There's still fields behind there. There's still

vegetation growing. It's not like full housing. There's a lot more houses in the town but still not

in that area. So it could have been easily, you know, easily an object could have been there and

not too many people would have seen it. That was one childhood experience I had in Lebanon

and it stuck with me. Have you talked to the other children now that you're all adults? Have you

asked anyone about it? Look, I went back to Lebanon in 2000. A couple of my cousins were around

that were there on the day and we sat down and we sat down in a big circle. All my cousins came

from you know Beirut and so on and we're from North Lebanon so they came over and spent a couple

days with us and we talked about it. I like I mentioned it and I said what happened to me on

that neighbor's roof and because I think they were all my friends and cousins were switched off

and they were like mannequins and didn't get the sea or move. I don't think they saw much at all

but I was sitting there one of my cousins who wasn't involved on the day. She wasn't with us on

that day. They lived in Beirut and visited Turing's sort of family functions and so on. It wasn't

like a weekly thing where they turned up. She was sitting down and she relayed the story to me. She

just burst out crying and relayed the story that her and her friends were driving in a car

and on a in this you know field or like a dirt road. She was looking out the window and she saw

an 80 and standing while this and the way she described there was standing and her arms were

like lower down past his knees and the way he was hunched over and that and she said that she

started crying and just screaming telling the driver to get back because she thought it might have

been the hurt creature that's been hurt and it needed help and that's that's a feeling she got.

She said a couple of minutes later they stopped chucked you, turned, came back and she couldn't

see anything there but she was in tears about it. It just came out of me filled, had nothing to do

with the story. I was telling it was just her story but no I didn't get the opportunity to a couple

of the people who were overseas, living overseas and you know I haven't spoken to them. Maybe

when they hear me talking about this now that they might trigger something or might they might

want to have a talk about it but I don't try and force the issue.

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Also, did your mother talk about having an experience and sightings when she was younger?

That was a real shot to me in particular because I grew up in a Lebanese Maranite Christian home and

not overly. I'm not being overly Christian that we went to church every Sunday and

prayed every night for I went to bed and so on, but I went to church on Easter's, on Christmas's.

My mum was Greek Orthodox, so she'd taken me more to her church, which is a church I ended up

getting married in. I'm Maranite, my dad's Maranite, but I got married in a Greek Orthodox church.

Yeah, she never ever discussed anything like that. It wasn't something that we discussed even once

in my life. One day in 2004, UFO researcher and scientist Bill Chalker is an Australian author.

He was interviewing my family because he was going to write the book, Here are the Alien,

about my other experiences, 88 and 88 experiences, 992, where the evidence came from.

As it was talking to my family, who's speaking to my brother more so in my dad and asking my brother

what happened to me in 988 experience that I had of my parents' house, my mum looked in the room

and she was like, what are you guys talking about? My brother said to her, he's investigating what

happened to Peter in 988 experience he had. We had a lot of activity around my parents as I'll

get into it later. My mum just said, oh yeah, when will we younger? We always see those things

they call sources of flying plates. Our parents and their elders always told us they were Israeli

spy planes or Israeli technology or whatever. Anyway, she said in 1964, she said

I'll never forget this. Her words, I'm quite in her and unfortunately my mum's in the nursing home

now with dementia. I just wish we audio recorded video recorded, you know, her testimony or

would have had that as evidence to back it all, you know, it's proof. But anyway, she said

in 1964, when Peter was 22 days old, now I was born in April, so this is May. That three o'clock

in the morning, my mum was breastfeeding me and she said she saw an alien at the window and it was

milky white skin, it was wearing like a Stevie rolled up like up to the neck, very, very

fierce, flawless skin, milky white skin actually she described it as, nice face with big blue eyes,

very piercing blue eyes, wavy blonde whiteish hair, that was a short, shortish hair, you know, just

not a crew cut or anything, but just to the bottom of the back of the net. And wavy and she said,

she noticed that it was combed from over the ear, wasn't like a comb over because it was here there,

but it was split at the site, right above the ear. And she said that it was looking at her,

breastfeeding me, but she made it clear. My mum doesn't speak like this, you know, it's just,

yeah, it was, I don't know how, even the words she was using, she said, he was looking at my son,

he wasn't purving at me, he was watching my son, she made that clear, he didn't feel like she was

being purfed on or anything. And she said, what woman in 1964 wouldn't freak out, especially in

Lebanon, you know, say, you know, white person and I'll be no looking or, you know, milky whites

in, looking through the window, through a glass window, and I'm doing, it's just standing there,

not moving or anything. She said, like, you would freak out, you know, you would jump out of bed,

said, but no, I just felt really calm. I put my son down, laid him down, sleep, I laid next to him

and I slept. Like a baby, she said she got up the next morning and asked my uncle, because he

was, he was one of two security guards in the town. She asked him to look for any ships as we

have two ports for Gray and white segment and they come and cup and leave and she was wondering

whether there was Western ships and there were white, you know, white blonde people or white

head people in the town, wondering around at three in the morning. There was nothing, there was

no ships in a docked in town at all. That blew me away because I've never heard my mum talk about

that. I heard her specifically say, you know, she knew I was 22 days old at the time, like she

didn't forget how old I was to make the point that she wasn't scared, she wasn't afraid.

You know, I'm a male, if I see someone looking through the window, I'm going to react, I'm in a

brigade, I'll be in a react and go and see what's going on. She, she's shocked me to say the least

coming out with that. Well, I wanted to ask you about the 1988 event.

Ninety-eight, February nine and eighty-eight on actually the four days on

Valentine's Day. My partner and my fiancée at the time and I, we were sitting in my car in a

car park. I had my back to the driver's door, she had her back to the passenger door. We just

sit in the front seat, the car just talking, you know, something just said to me, I had my window

open and something just said to me, look up in the sky. So I bent my head back and I tilted my head

back, looked up into the sky. I saw a baseball size white, like super, super white, bright light,

that wasn't emitting any light around or anything, it was a solid, solid circle of light and it was

moving from the northern sky, heading south. And when it got to the southern cross, the highest

star on the southern cross, it was moving rapidly and as it got to that point, it stopped on it,

like it stopped on a dime. It shocked me how quick it stopped. So I said to her, you've got to come

out of the car and see this, so we jumped out of the car, we started looking up and we could both

see it with the naked eye just looking at it. All of a sudden, like it hovered there for a few

seconds and then all of a sudden, it shot this beam of light, I'm talking, it was in the distance,

as you can imagine, if it was close to the southern cross, but this beam of light was ticker

a roller, for example, measuring a roller and probably as long like 30 centimeters, but it would

have been much, much bigger. What it would do, it would shoot a beam of light and it would appear at

two, it was in the triangle of formation. So the three points of light in the southern cross,

they formed a triangle, it was on the top one, then it would shoot a beam of light, appear at two

places at once, this is from point A, shoot a beam of light, this would appear at two places,

this would appear at point B, shoot a beam of light, this would appear at points and then disappear

at C, it was just, but it was doing that erratic, it was doing it in a million miles an hour back and

forth, always in the triangle, I formed a perfect triangle of formation, this lasted probably a minute

and a half, close to two minutes, we watched in or I got a cardboard box, I rolled it up and

used it like a telescope to see, you know, just to tunnel my vision towards this object,

my parrot-ness comments at the time where it's a wall with the stars, I said to one,

no, it looks like it's searching for something, because I at the time thought the beam of light was

like a search light, but it was traveling so queued that it appeared at two places, it was

traveling on this beam of light, I don't know what sort of physics that was using, but it was

traveling on a beam of light and it was traveling so quickly you could see it at two places,

and then it always disappeared from that point of origin where it shot that beam of light from,

it did that for a while and then it's, when it got to the top star where it started, it stopped there

again, few seconds and then it just tilted and shot up into the sky, it's such tremendous speed,

it was gone in, you know, a second or two, we both knew then we saw something really, really

strange and we thought that it was about eight, maybe, you know, between eight and eight thirty at

night on a clear night, really a clear night, and we actually thought hundreds of people in Sydney,

near South Wales in Australia are going to report this in the morning, we're going to read the

papers, we're going to be listening to the news or radio, and we're going to hear people reporting

this from everywhere, the next day, you know, obviously we went and got the paper, we've got

local paper with this in the radio, this into the news, nothing, there was nothing, not one report,

and in saying that, we saw it, we thought it was spectacular, yet we didn't report it to anyone

either, we were hoping that we would hear reports by other people, I don't know if anyone, maybe

thousands did see it, maybe we were the only ones to see it, I don't know, six months later,

I had just moved back home, when, when Vivian and I went to school together, went our separate ways,

and when we decided, we made contact with each other, we get indecided, and you know,

get engaged, get married and so on, I moved back home with my, in my family home, and I was there,

but I had six to nine months, say, that's when, yeah, it was probably six months in actually,

you know, I just moved back home, so I didn't mind my privacy, but I had an opportunity to sit

down and watch a movie with my dad, it was about 11 o'clock at night, sitting down in the TV room,

lounge room, watching this movie with him, because I didn't really spend a lot of time with him

throughout my life, you know, he wasn't around when I was growing up, he worked there to see,

so I hardly saw him, but anyway, I was sitting down watching this movie, it was probably about 10 minutes

into this movie, and my brother walked out of my bedroom, where he was already asleep,

and he came into the TV room and he said to me, go watch TV in your room, I want to sleep out here,

that was my oldest brother, so I thought, you know, okay, I don't mind my privacy, I'll do it,

but I was disappointed because I was sitting there with my dad, so anyway, I went into my room,

you know, people can say, he woke up, it was sleep paralysis, it was a dream, it was a nightmare,

people like to think that, but when they're confronted with the reality of what happened,

even with my experience where I retrieved the hair sample, people still suggest that it happened

at night, it wasn't sleep paralysis, I wasn't asleep, I wasn't, you know, woke up out of this thing,

I went into my room, I sat on my bed, between my bed and the wall, I had a little coffee table

with the color Toshiba television on it, as I then bent down, hit the TV button to turn the

arton, and you know, I laid back and I went to class my hands together behind my head,

I had my right leg crossed over my left, and as I went to lay it back on the bed,

before my hands and my head hit the pillow, I felt something grab me around my ankles,

you know, it felt like anyone grabbing someone around the ankles, it felt like could have been,

you know, the index finger and the thumb, the area, but to me, I think it might have even been

some sort of device or had a device connected to his hand or something, there's a soon as he

touched me and as soon as I felt that pressure around my ankle, I got pins and needles called up

through my legs, all the way up through my legs, up my thighs, through my torso, all the way up

to my face, my face was like, you know, ants calling from my scalp and my face, it was like

thousands of ants, and it was more so static electricity, I become paralyzed, I can't move,

the more I try to move, the more I realized I couldn't, the only thing I could do luckily for me,

my eyes were open, so I could move my eyes from side to side, but I couldn't move any part of my

body, and I'd say if my eyes were closed and I was asleep, I would have thought that, you know,

it was a dream, I was asleep or something, but I wasn't asleep, and as I'm trying to figure out

why am I paralyzed, you know, what's going on, why am I paralyzed, I looked down at the foot of

the bed and I see a creature, a bean, wearing a like a monk's robe with a hood over its head,

a big hood over its head, this creature was about three to four foot in height, it had

wrinkly, like white, forward, deep wrinkles, high-reached brows, rounded, deep-set eyes, white

nose, like a gorilla's nose, for example, and my description would be it looked like a gorilla

wearing a monk's robe and a hood, you know, big lips, darky-skilling color could have been black

or darkish like a little shiny or blue, depends how the light hit it, it looked terrific, it looked

really frightening, you know, I, yeah, I did, I thought it was evil at first.

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Anyway, as I'm freaking out thinking, what is this at the foot of my bed? The corner of my

and my right, I noticed there were two more exactly the same as that same first figure.

Wooded, short, same features, and they're right at my side, and I'm started to freak out.

I'm freaking out now. Now, they were between the television and the bed, so they were very,

very close to me. But I couldn't do anything. I couldn't, I've trained in martial arts and that,

so I couldn't even get up and fight or kick or push or try and get out of the, you know,

the room by opening the door. I couldn't do anything. So my thought process at the time was,

oh my god, you know, I'm, because here I am at the same time. I'm trying to call out to my father

and my brother who were in the next room, and it was frustrating because I could say the words in

my head like I could say their names. I could say, you know, Dad or my brother's name Sam,

but it wouldn't come out of my mouth. So I'm, I'm thinking, you know, I'm screaming,

but there's nothing coming out. And that was frustrating. Anyway, once I realized,

I'm paralyzed. I'm not thinking still seeing these things that I'm not thinking aliens or anything.

I'm thinking, oh my god, this is evil. This could be the devil. And I'm paralyzed. And I'm

going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life. I'm going to be in a wheelchair. My family's going

to come and wake me up in the morning and realize that I'm in a wheelchair. I'll never walk again.

That's how I was thinking. As I'm thinking there and I'm freaking out and I'm stressing and I'm

sweating, you know, and I'm claustrophobic, right? The best of times I'm claustrophobic. So if I

am restricted, if I'm restrained, I've got, I've got to move. It gets me. I get anxiety from it.

But in saying that through my work, I've been involved in a couple of armed robberies and so on.

I've got chuck under my head. I've had three different weapons to my head at different times.

I handle that. You know, I handle it. It doesn't scare me. I can deal with that. As I'm freaking out,

and I'm thinking, oh, my God, I'm not going to walk again. I'm going to be in a wheelchair.

With the corner of my eye, I noticed on my left side between the wardrobe and the bed were two

totally different beams in the first three. These ones were tall, goldish in color. I'd say

seven foot tall, and I was lying on the bed so they probably look a bit taller than I might have been.

I'm saying, you know, I could have been almost tall as a wardrobes up to the ceiling or most,

you know, not quite. One was the one closest to my shoulder and my head was male,

and the one closest to my hip or my side was female. I could tell because she had bigger chest and

also just the features or just somehow tells she was feminine. They both had surgery for masks on,

but unlike our surgical masks that are like four fingers, they're about four fingers wide. We know

when we have to cover your nose or mouth, well, their masks were only about two fingers wide.

When I give the description, you probably understand why. I didn't see any ears on them. They were

tall-ish, they were goldish in color. They had oval-shaped heads coming down to a point or not

not a point as in sharp, but a pointier chin. They had just the slit as if you drew it with a pencil

for a mouth. It wasn't like you saw lips, you know, teeth or anything. You just saw this line and

you didn't say, I didn't say it move. The nostrils, the nose, the nostrils were standing almost

like upright and the nose was in the reach like us, but you could probably almost not see it,

but there was a slight reach on the face and massive, absolutely massive black eyes and the

instant I connected, when I looked at the bean closest to me the male and I looked into his eyes

into his right eye first. Honestly, it felt to me like I felt in the black void and he just

was like hypnotized me or something. He just looked total control of me and I felt there

and then that this bean just knew more about me than I knew myself. I thought that there was a

history there where this bean knew me. The female that was standing on my side, she had the surgical

mask actually on her across her mouth, she was covering her mouth with a male had it under

his chin. He wasn't wearing it and that's why I understood it then that he and I probably had

interactions and he had no, you know, it wasn't concerned about diseases being passed on between us,

you know, which makes sense. But anyway, the male that's closer to me, all of a sudden in my head

telepathy, like when someone tells you telepathy, I'm not talking voices, I'm not hearing voices,

I'm not hearing a voice of any particular person or evil thing or something, it's more annoying,

it's more an understanding, it's more like a feeling, it's like it's when you think about something

that's telepathy, it's like that but you can understand what the other person is saying, you can

you can hear what the other person is thinking that's where it is and yeah, there is like it feels

like a voice but it's not, it's more annoying and you know, a feeling of knowing and straight away

I was petrified one minute, you know, I was freaking out looking at these other creatures and in

all of a sudden I look in these being's eyes and I'm totally calm and this is where he follows it with

calm down relax calm down, we're not going to harm you relax, it'll be like the last time

calm down relax, we're not going to harm you, it'll be like the last time relax, it's more like a

hypnotic thing but I'm thinking after the second one, I mean, but what do you mean last time?

I freaked me out a little bit but you know, at the time I just sort of was dealing with the whole thing

and as he's saying that to me and I calm down, we're not, we're not going to harm you,

I see in his hand, he was holding it with like three fingers but it was like a tube almost like a

syringe so you know like a big syringe and on the tip of it it had like an optic fiber cable

and on the tip of that it had a little tiny bright white and he bought it down and he put it on

this part of my head, I felt like I felt a machine, I felt the pressure of it but I didn't feel

any pain and I felt it go in and I black out, I don't remember what happened after that but

but since I'd been fighting this paralysis for so long I've been trying to get up and out of my bed

and you know call my brother my dad, when this was all over and I came too, I sprung out of bed,

it was just one leap, I was out of bed and I opened the door, walked into the TV room,

tried to wake up my dad and my brother and I couldn't so I went up to my brother and I just

slapped him across the face a couple of times, he woke up and he didn't make a comment that he

felt like he had been switched off and he said that in Arabic, in Lebanese and anyway I said to him

look, I've been trying to wake up dad, I can't wake him, I think he's had a heart attack so we both

get up, try to wake him, my brother tells me, go get a glass of water, you know, we splashed

that face, my brother slapped him a couple of times, I slapped him a couple of times, my dad comes

too and instead of you know, say asking us, whoa are you slapping me, you know, what's happened,

did I have a heart attack, did I have a stroke, nothing, just look at us and he goes there,

it's on a sleep and laid down and went to sleep, didn't even question anything,

so I asked my brother, I said to him, how long has it been since I've been in my room and he said

I reckon about 10 minutes and I thought it was about 15 minutes, so we looked at the TV, now when I

left the room, my dad and I had just started watching his TV show, when I left the room,

when I went on talking to my brother, sorry, we look at the TV and we can see that there's

just a blur on the TV or like a test pattern, TV station had closed, so a couple of hours had gone by,

I've got no recollection of anything or being taken anywhere through that, but

my brother was, when the research about the book was made by Bill Chorker, my brother

commented that he was sitting in the chair and that chair, the back door and the front door line

up perfectly, so if you're sitting in that chair in the TV room, you'll be able to see right

through the house, he said he saw my body being floated out of my room with three beans, one in front,

one on either side and taken and floated my body out and he thought that it was my soul and that

he'd never seen me again, he actually thought that I might have died and that's my soul they're

taken away and that petrified you, but anyway I asked my brother, I said how long has I ever been in

my room and he said 10 minutes and I thought, you know what, I'm going to grab a glass of water,

I'm going to put it next to my bed and if I get up in the morning and this glass of water,

so on the bed side chest and something happened and it wasn't just a dream, so yeah, of course in

the morning I get up and the glass of water is there, so a couple hours later I had a shower,

I had to go and pick up Vivian on fiance from work, I had a shower as I was drying up on my

right chin, I felt a real burning sensation on the right in the middle inside of my right chin

and when I had a look, it looked like someone had put a cigarette and let it burn my skin,

it was like five millimeters in diameter, about two millimeters deep, it had three

prong marks in a triangular pattern, it was red draw, it was like a cigarette burg and I knew,

you know, I thought that must have been from when happened last night but didn't nothing too much

into it and then six hours later I went to pick up Vivian, she gets in the car and the first thing

she said was, oh my god, did you have a fight with, and I said no, no, I looked something happened

to me last night, I don't need to speak to someone about it, I may as well speak to you, so

as I'm telling her what happened, I pointed to the spot on my head when I said I inserted

something in my head and it was dry blood under my fingernail, so she has a cloak, so look and

she says to me, oh my god, you've got a doughnut hole and it's inflamed and there's dry blood

in there, you know, she goes, it looks bad, I said yeah, and there's this mark on my leg and I lifted

my jeans left shower and it was healed, when I say it was healed, it looks like a bullet wound,

but the redness, the soreness and the redness was completely gone and this was like a scar,

healed scar, six hours later, all that you could still see, you could put your finger in it and lose

half your finger in there almost, it's that deep, but yeah, so she said, look, you better go and say

doctor, so I went to a doctor I had seen for 10 years and when I told her my story, she laughed

at me and I got really pissed off, she'd known me for 10 years, no, I would never ditch, you know,

makeup stories like that, her reasoning behind it was that I hit my head on a nail at work

and made up the story about it and you know, I said the last couple of times was I've stepped on

a nail at work, I come get a technic shot and I move on, I don't make up a story like this,

and if you think I'm crazy, you know, refer me to a psychologist or psychiatrist but don't laugh

at me, never went back to see her, unfortunately, 10 years as a good doctor and she lost me, but

yeah, um, that was, that was sort of my big, big punch in the face when it comes to

eight-end abductions and realizing that oh my god, this could be something, you know, I don't

understand bigger than I could ever understand and um, I went on a search, I went on a massive

search and I just wanted to know what was happening to me, so I'd call this psychiatrist and

psychologist and I wasn't calling you FO groups at all because I didn't know, I'm calling all

these counselors and so on and as soon as I'd say I, something appeared in my room or you know,

I had a presence in my room, no, we don't deal with that, hang up, don't even refer you to anyone,

just hang up on you, so I was talking to one psychologist from Queensland and he mentioned that

he had heard a lot of people talking about this and it was UFO related and so on and

I got involved with the UFO group in Sydney and it was one of the best experiences in that

they were happy to, you know, looking lights in the sky, discuss lights in the sky from the

1930s, 50s, whatever, but they really didn't want to go near any of this eight-in-adduction stuff,

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a coordinator for the support group or you know, sorry, it wasn't a support group at the time,

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until but Hopkins came out to Australia, he was a pioneer in the field of your

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this is you know, these people trusted me with this and if they wish to give you that information,

they can do it themselves that I'm not going to give you anybody's information,

decided to go out on my home with the colleague Paul Jayney and his partner and my partner

and we founded the UFO Experience Supporters Association in April of 1993 and for about 16 years,

we dominated, we held film nights, conferences, support group meetings, Professor John Mac

attended one of our meetings, workshop, I was pretty impressed here and I became really

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I wanted to ask about what happened with the advert for the book Communion.

Was it that you saw the cover on it?

Was it a bit of a shock?

That was a crazy thing on its own too.

I...

I was driving in the car.

I believe it was in our area where both our parents leave.

It wasn't too far from there.

And as we're driving, we saw it in the bus shelter.

It was a massive black advertisement.

And it said, there was white riding on it.

It just said, they're here.

Sorry, they're coming.

And in two weeks later, the same spot in the same advertising bus shelter.

There was another black post that at least on the riding said, they're here.

And we're just looking at each other thinking, what is this about?

You know, we couldn't figure it out.

Two weeks after that, I picked her up from work.

And as we're driving, there's a couple of buses stopped on the bus stops.

And as we're stopped at a set of lights, red lights.

This bus starts moving.

He's got the green light.

The busses, he starts moving.

And she looks over and she goes, oh my God, and I've looked over in turn.

We see the big black poster.

But now there was the goldish colored, large eyed alien on the,

from the cover of the book, Communion.

That was all headshot in this massive poster.

And she said to me, oh my God, that's exactly what you described to me.

And I was like, yeah, that's exactly what I saw.

So we didn't know what it was about.

Whether it was a movie, whether it was a book, we didn't know.

Then one day I'm driving, it was probably a couple of days later, I'm driving.

And I had to stop to have some lunch.

And this is while working.

And as I'm sitting in the car park, I hear an interview on radio by Brian Uri,

who used to do the weather on television.

And also radio station doing an interview with, with the streamer.

And as I'm sitting there, I start hearing the descriptions.

I start hearing the story and I'm like,

man, this sounds like very similar to my case, like this is freaky.

So I sat there for 45 minutes and just listened to this whole interview.

And I was riveted.

And I couldn't wait to get off my phone and call Vivian and tell her like,

I know what this book is about, you know, what those advertisers were about.

And so I listened to the interview and it was like a checklist for me.

It was like a lot of things I could relate to, but there was a lot, lot more that I could have relate to.

And I like, it happens in the cabin.

He's shooting at them.

They appeared. They disappear.

They're all these stuff.

I didn't experience any of that stuff.

They were in total control in my situation.

And I had to find the copy of the book communion.

And I went and bought the book communion and Vivian read it before I did.

And I got a picture of her walking in the front day, front entry of my parents' house.

And she's holding the book.

And I went to take the picture of her holding it and she actually bought it to her face.

And the cover is actually covering her face.

Anyway, she'd read the book before I did.

She read it before I did.

And she'd read it on the train.

It into work.

And then she'd get to work and she'd pick up the phone instantly and call me.

And she'd be like, Peter, you've told your story to someone.

You've said your story to someone.

You've trusted someone and told them.

And they've gone and told someone that someone's written your story,

made it into a book, whatever.

And I'm like, you're the only one I've spoken to.

And the doctor, like, that's it, you know?

And so, yeah, it's...

The thing was, she'd read the book and ring me every day.

And tell me all these little scenarios that are going on.

You know, that are similar to mine.

Then I get the book to read it.

Although she had already told me what was in the book.

I struggled to read the book.

I read maybe one or two lines the first day and I put it down.

Took me a couple of days to pick it up again.

And I struggled to read a half a page.

Then, you know, I forced myself to read a page.

And it was a time where I couldn't get myself to turn to the next page.

You know, I found it really difficult.

But I thought, you know what?

I don't need to rush.

I'll do it at my own pace.

And it'll probably help me understand that better.

Instead of rushing through it, running through it and trembling.

You know, you'd stumble and fall and get hurt.

I thought, I'll just walk through this.

And I started reading the book and I realized,

oh, you know, shake.

There are other people out there experiencing something similar to me.

And I want to connect with them.

I want to, you know, I want to find out.

I want to hear their stories.

I want to see what's going on.

And that began a search where now I've got, you know,

over two and a half, almost 3,000 books on the topic amongst other things.

And I've read most of the books there.

And yeah, it's just the never ending search now.

And a thirst for knowledge on this.

And it's because I've been abducted and had many experiences.

It just doesn't mean that I know everything.

And I don't think anybody in this planet knows everything.

People know bits and pieces, but no, not one person knows the whole whole story.

I think it's best that way so they can keep it controlled.

But yeah, hopefully things are changing and we'll see what happens.

But yeah, the most significant experience I had was in 1992.

So I don't know if you want to say anything about that before I get into it.

Yeah, that was just going to ask you that.

That was my next question.

Can you tell us what happened in 92?

So I went back to the bed.

And then I got under the quilt, you know, I put the quilt over me, covered myself.

And it would have been within seconds.

I had this, I felt like a cat or a dog had jumped on top of the bed.

It caught my attention because we didn't have any pets.

And it felt like it might have been a cat jumping, but it was a bit heavier than that,

because I felt a deeper indentation on the mattress.

But anyway, it did catch my attention.

So I sat bolt upright.

And as I looked, as I went to sit bolt upright, I saw my astral body,

my soul, whatever you want to call it.

I saw that sit up.

And I could see silhouette of me, like a great spirit image of me.

And through that image, I could see this female.

And then as I became one with my soul again, as I, my physical body sat up,

I looked and I saw her and then she, she joined the fingers together,

I put them at the back of my head and pulled my face into her breast.

I buried my face into her chest.

And I put my hands against her body and I pushed away from her and I was able to.

And then she pushed me a second time with a bit more force.

And I tried a bit harder, a little bit harder to push away.

And I was able to push away slightly.

And then the third time she just buried my face in her chest and held me there.

And I was trying to push and move.

And this time I just could not.

She was just a lot stronger than I thought she would have been.

And I could have pushed away from her.

So here I am.

My face buried in the chest and I can't breathe.

And I'm claustrophobic and I'm panicking now.

Thinking, I can't, I'm going to pass out.

So a lot of people do make comments about this and go,

Oh, what type of person is he?

He beat the woman on and it wasn't a bite.

I didn't take a bite.

I wasn't biting into an apple.

This was more a defensive thing where I used my teeth.

Just as you would pinch with your fingers,

I pinched with my teeth against a flesh.

Because that was, I thought I couldn't get her off me.

I thought if she gets hurt, if she feels a bit of pain, she might let me go.

So I've done it.

And as I've done it, I was able to push away from her.

And I looked at her face and I could see she was in total shock.

Her eyes were so huge.

I say they were two to three times bigger,

but I'd say they looked that big because she was just in shock.

A chair to eyes open like she didn't expect anything like this to happen.

As that happens, I feel something hit the back of my throat

and I thought it might have been flesh from whatever I'd be.

But then I looked at her body in that area and I couldn't see any blood.

I couldn't see, you know, any grazers or cuts.

I couldn't see anything at all.

There was not hardly a mark.

There were two females involved.

One was Asian looking.

She was on the side of the bed just monitoring or watching.

The other one was completely straddling me now.

They were both naked.

She was straddling me.

I was no longer under the quilt.

I was on top of the quilt now.

So she was on top of me.

You can use the imagination and think of what could have, you know, where it led to.

But I've got two children.

It's affected their life, especially this aspect.

I don't talk about the sexual aspect of it.

I haven't.

Let me get to the where sample came from.

And then people are also shooting me down about that.

Why didn't I take a photo?

Anyway, as this is all happening,

I get really burning sensation again.

Look down.

I start coughing.

I look up and they've vanished.

They're gone.

Just as quickly as they arrived, I don't know how they got there.

I don't know how they left.

Then I had the urge to go to the bathroom and pee.

And I walked into the bathroom and, you know, as any man would know,

you get a bit of buildup, then you release.

And as soon as I got that buildup, it felt like my private area had been slashed.

With phrases like, I mean, slashed.

There was just excruciating pain.

And when I actually thought it was all over, like, it's slashed all on the outside.

I thought, I'm going to look and it's going to be like laser cuts.

But when I looked, I saw two hairs.

One was like half, like around.

And then the other one was down the shaft and in an S sort of shape.

And they were embedded into my private area.

My eyes were watering.

I had so much pain.

It was excruciating pain as I pulled these things off.

And then straight away, once I got a month with teas running,

I went and got a sealable bag.

And I put them in it, sealed it, made a note.

Well, it's been fantastic talking to you.

Thanks for giving us so much of your time.

Maybe we could do this again in two or three months or something.

Sure, not a problem.

Let me know.

And I've had people say to me, we'll send you the question so you can prove you.

I'm just, you know, throw them at me on the day.

I'm happy to answer and made.

I've got nothing to hide.

Great.

Well, thanks again for coming on the podcast.

Pleasure looking forward to hearing it.

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