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On Friday, August 28, Mora Owens appeared at the Maricopa County Superior Court House

for a settlement conference in her criminal case.

The question was, would she plead guilty or would her case go to trial?

Finally, we got an answer.

How do you plead to count one fraudulent schemes in our offices, a Class 2 non-dangerous felony,

committed on or about May 17, 2023 through an including June 10, 2024?

Guilty or not guilty?

Guilty.

Laura pled guilty to four felony counts.

Two Class 2 felonies of fraudulent schemes and artifices,

one Class 4 felony of perjury, and one Class 4 felony of taking the identity of another.

After months of uncertainty and delays, the most surprising thing we could have heard

was Laura admitting guilt, not once, but four times.

Is everything that was said on the record true and correct?

Yes, Your Honor.

Court Finds Defense Police is knowingly intelligent and voluntary made as a factual

basis for each count and the plea, the plea is accepted in the end of record.

I'm Stephanie Young and this is a special bonus episode of Love Trap.

I'm going to walk you through what went down in Arizona on Friday, August 28th.

I was there in person for the whole thing.

So let's start at the beginning.

Before the hearing started, I ran into Clayton, Greg Woodnick, and reality Steve outside

the courthouse. None of us had any idea if Laura was going to take the plea deal or not.

Clayton hadn't been given advance notice.

Like we said in the last episode, Clayton believed she'd take this to the bitter end

and bring this case to trial.

The courtroom doors opened early so I made my way inside to find a seat.

Here's Woodnick.

The hearing was scheduled to start at 230 and we went a little bit early,

anticipating that the county attorney was going to want to talk to Clayton about the status of

things and there was a short meeting with the county attorney privately before the hearing.

After we met with the county attorney and the investigator, Clayton and I walked into the

courtroom anticipating that the hearing was going to start at 230. It was delayed, not super

uncommon, but this court runs on time so I was wondering what was going on and it dawned on me

that I hadn't seen Laura. Usually, at these hearings, we bump into Laura and her mother or

father and the hallway. That's always awkward in any case, not just this one, but I hadn't seen them,

so we were wondering where she was.

I took a seat in the fourth row, directly behind Clayton. There was a strict no cell phone policy

inside the courtroom. That means all the interview tape you're hearing happened after the fact.

The hearing was supposed to begin at 230, but 230 came and went. Laura wasn't in the room yet.

Everyone began looking around anxiously. We were all wondering what was going on and if the hearing

would start. The prosecutor kept coming in and out of the courtroom and having quiet conversations

with Woodnick and Clayton in the front row. I was sitting next to reality Steve and he overheard some

of what was said. I started hearing some things and rumblings that a plea deal was probably going

to happen, but Laura was waffling. She was sick throwing up. We were hearing terms like that.

I couldn't see Woodnick or Clayton's faces, but I knew something big was about to happen.

The county attorney let us know that Laura had signed the plea agreement, which is great and it was

a huge sigh of relief, Stephanie, because this was a big deal. She acknowledged and writing that she

had committed these crimes. But a signed plea agreement doesn't do any good unless it's put on

the record in the courtroom. And there was a comment made that she was having challenges or struggling

to come into the courtroom and address what she had signed apparently on the record with the judge.

I overheard a snippet of this conversation. The prosecutor saying Laura was about to sign the

plea deal, but I still didn't believe that it was about to happen. Laura hadn't come into the courtroom

yet and the tensions were rising. So we waited some more and eventually it felt like maybe 15 minutes

later. She came in very quickly and had a seat at the table with her attorney Christian looters

and within a few seconds the judge came in and the hearing began.

This is CR 2025 007905 state versus Laura Owens time set for settlement conference.

Can I get a parents please? Good afternoon, your headlighter and behalf of the state.

afternoon judge Christian looters and behalf of Laura Owens who's present with me at the defense

table. So Miss Owens have been handed a plea agreement that indicates you want to resolve your

case by pleading guilty to count one fraudulent schemes and arvests as a class to non-deadress

felony count six per jury a class four non-deadress felony count nine fraudulent schemes and arvests as

a class two non-deadress felony and then count ten taking my identity but not there a class four

felony non-deadress. Is that what you want to do today? Yes, sir. So just going to ask you some

questions make sure I understand what you're doing. Have you taken any drugs? Alcohol or

medication last 24 hours? No, you're wrong. What's last grade in school that you have finished or

completed? I have my bachelor's in college. Okay, so you read and understand English correct?

Has anybody forced your threatened jury in a way to make you plead guilty? No.

Has anybody promised you anything regarding your sentence that's not written in your plea agreement

to get you to plead guilty? No. Because Laura is pleading guilty to felonies, it will impact

her civil rights. She won't be able to vote, serve as a juror, hold public office, or possess a

firearm. The judge then moved on to discuss her plea agreement with the state. Okay, so let's

talk about your agreements with the state. As to count one, which is a class two five, there are

no agreements as to sentencing. If you are placed on probation, it will be supervised probation.

As to counts six, nine, and ten, you'll be placed on supervised probation, no contact with the

victims. The state will dismiss counts two through five, seven, and eight, and eleven through fourteen.

Is that your understanding of your agreement with the state? Yes, Your Honor.

Under the terms of the plea agreement, Laura agreed to plead guilty to four of her fourteen

felony counts. For three of these counts, she faces supervised probation, which may still carry

mandatory jail time. Sentencing for the final felony count remains open to the judge's discretion

at sentencing. That carries a potential penalty ranging from supervised probation to up to 12

and a half years in prison. In exchange for her guilty plea, the state agreed to dismiss the

remaining ten charges. From there, the judge handled a few more administrative details.

In forming Laura, she was officially giving up her right to a trial and couldn't appeal the guilty

plea. In order to take advantage of the plea agreement, you got to waive your trial rights because

you're not having a trial since you're entering into a plea of guilty. I'm going to cover those

rights with you. You'll be giving up the presumption of innocence. You'll be giving up the right to

remain silent. You'll be giving up the right to have a jury determined guilt and aggravating

factors. You'll be giving up the right to confront and cross-examine the witnesses who are called

to testify against you. You'll be giving up the right to present evidence in your defense. You'll

be giving up the right to testify yourself and you'll be giving up the right to file a direct appeal,

but you would have the right to file a petition for post-conviction relief. Do you understand all

those rights? Yes, Your Honor. And you want to waive those rights so you can take advantage of this

plea agreement. Yes, Your Honor. Then we got to the part where Laura had to respond to each charge.

As I looked around the courtroom, everyone seemed to be stunned. Her mother, Jan Black, was sitting

across the aisle on the other side of the courtroom, but I could see her face. She was completely deadpan

and emotionless, watching her daughter plead guilty. How do you plead to count one fraudulent

schemes in Arvices a class 2 non-dangerous felony? Guilty or not guilty? Guilty. How do you plead

to count six perjury a class 4 non-dangerous felony? Guilty or not guilty? Guilty. How do you plead

to count 9 fraudulent schemes in Arvices a class 2 non-dangerous felony? Guilty or not guilty? Guilty.

And how do you plead to count 10 taking the identity of another? Guilty or not guilty? Guilty.

Laura admitted guilt on four felony charges. There was a charge for every listed victim.

Then she had to provide a factual basis for each count. That means she had to admit the facts of

what happened so the judge could confirm that a crime was actually committed. Laura's attorney

read them on her behalf. Factual basis please. Your Honor is count one on her about

the 17th, 2023 and through June 10th, 2024. Within Maricopa County in the Squirtz jurisdiction,

Laura Michelle Owens pursuant to a scheme where artifisted to fraud knowingly did obtain a benefit

from Clayton Ray Eckhard by means of fraudulent pretensees, representation, promises, or material omissions.

As count six within Maricopa County in the Squirtz jurisdiction,

Honor about June 10th, 2024. Laura Michelle Owens in regard to a material issue and believing

it to be false did make a false sworn statement to wit claiming that's me showing my pregnant stomach.

Come on again in Maricopa County in the Squirtz jurisdiction. Honor between July 1st, 2021

and August 17th, 2022. Laura Michelle Owens again pursuant to a scheme where artifisted to fraud

knowingly did obtain a benefit from Gregory Gillespie by means of fraudulent pretensees,

representation, promises, and material omissions. And finally, at count 10, in Maricopa County

within the Squirtz jurisdiction, Honor about August 6th, 2021, Laura Michelle Owens knowingly did

take purchase, manufacturer, record, possess, or use any personal identifying information or

entity identifying information of Stormy Lynn Mitchell without consent with the intent to

obtain or use the identity for any lawful purpose or to cause loss to a person or with the intent

to obtain or continue in form it. Is everything that was said on the record true and correct?

Yes, Your Honor. Quirt Finds Defense please knowingly intelligent voluntary made as a factual

basis for each count and the plea. The plea is accepted in the end of record.

After that, the judge moved on to scheduling the sentencing hearing.

I'm good with the 23rd. You're good the 23rd? All right, Mr. Lyre 23rd.

October 23rd works for both victims and the state.

Sentencing was set for October 23rd. That's where we'll find out if Laura will face prison or

jail time for her crimes. Anything else from the state? No, we are. All right, thank you. Anything from

the defense? No, thank you. All right.

The hearing only lasted 16 minutes and I felt like I was holding my breath the whole time.

I was told Laura left through a side door. The rest of us filed out into the hallway.

Clayton came right up to me and gave me a big hug. During the proceedings, we'd all been keeping

our emotions in check. But when we got outside, they all came rushing in. I started recording.

I want to hear in your words what happened. Laura accepted the plea. She took a minute to come in

there. We were told that she signed off on the plea but that she had to walk in and accept the crimes.

And she did. That's a big moment. I want to say like Laura, I am proud of you for taking the first

step towards accountability. That's genuinely how I feel. I don't want Laura to have a lifetime of

suffering. I have become stronger through this. I've become more resilient. I wanted to be held

accountable. We still have a sentence saying I'm still going to look to have her put in prison

for some time because I believe that's how you begin the healing process with Laura to make her a

better person. But this is a huge step today. She took accountability and that's something we have

not seen since I first met Laura. When did it finally hit you that this was real and that this was

over? For me it's like once she accepted the charges we then went into a side room and

kind of shook hands and thanked the prosecution and talked about next steps. But then when we walked

out of the courtroom and I saw you, yeah, I saw you. I felt like a wave of emotion overcome me.

I felt like on the verge of tears because like this really truly is finally feeling like the beginning

to the end. We are on the right step towards full justice and obviously we still need to have

sentencing but it's not lost upon me that her being a convicted felon is huge. It now it's up to me

and the prosecutor to look to get jail time or prison time tacked on to that. To me that's now

my responsibility partly and if it's meant to be we'll get that outcome. But I was okay with the

plea being agreed upon and and we got that so that's a one and I can thank the court for that

and say they've done a great job. I got in my car and finally looked at my phone. I had dozens of

missed calls and text messages. I thought I was going to drive away but I was feeling an unexpected

rush of emotions myself. So I recorded this voice note. I just left the Maricopa County Superior

Court House after the settlement conference on August 28th, 2026 where Laura Owens accepted a

plea deal in her criminal case in Arizona. It was extremely surreal to be in the courtroom. She had

to say that she was guilty to all four counts that she pled guilty to and I have to be honest after

following this case it was emotional to hear her say that for me and it's because I've lived

all of the moments with these men for the last 15 months of them recounting their stories

and telling me what happened and to see that there was accountability taken today was emotional.

And when Clayton walked out of the courtroom I was already in the hallway and I locked

eyes with him and immediately gave him a hug and just told him congratulations and that I was

proud of him for sticking with this and continuing the fight and he told me in that moment that

that's the first time it kind of sank into him and he got a little bit emotional and that

that was also a really powerful moment for me. I know I haven't followed the story from the very

beginning. I started in June of 2025 after his family court case had already been adjudicated but

I've been in this immersed in this for the last 15 months and to see him finally get justice today

and all of the other victims listed in this criminal case was extremely impactful and I am

grateful that I was here for that today.

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After the hearing, I caught up with Greg Woodnick. He didn't have to be at the courthouse,

but he spent almost five years in litigation with Laura. And he's personally invested.

So we sat in the front row right next to Clayton. Hearing Laura say the word guilty four times was

a little bit surreal. I remember thinking to myself, holy shit, that just happened. And this has been

a long road. And I remember kind of nudging Clayton on the leg. I mean, that was like the moment

that it was over. He knew it when he heard it as well. It was a big deal. I was a really big deal.

If you remember from our last episode, Woodnick predicted that Laura would take the plea deal.

He credits her legal counsel. Listen, I'm so glad she chose to do the right thing and plead guilty.

I tried to think about it in terms of if I were representing Laura and I'm grateful I am not.

I think her current attorney has done a great job representing her. I think Christian

looters just saved Laura from Laura. And entering this plea agreement gives her an opportunity to not

spend a significant amount of time in prison. And someone is committed to their craft of lying as

Laura was. It's probably hard to convince them that this is the best outcome for them.

Laura may have thought up until that moment that she said guilty four times that she could go to trial

and lie her way out of this. That didn't happen. And that I think was the sigh of relief I had

when I heard her say guilty four times. Knowing what I know about Laura, I asked Woodnick if there

was a possibility Laura could change her mind. Can someone backtrack on their guilty plea?

People back out of plea agreements. I don't want to say all the time, but there's a way to get out

of the plea agreement. I don't anticipate that's going to happen here. I think Laura got really

good legal advice from her attorney. Laura's decision to plead guilty means there will be no trial.

We won't see all the evidence the state has been collecting for the past two years.

I know there's a lot of people that want this trial to go forward. And I think the people wanted

the trial to go forward to find out the depths of the fraud that Laura has committed over these years.

And of course, there's a part of me that would have liked to see all that exposed. I know a lot more

than the public does having been involved in this for a long time. And I can appreciate why people

would want that all aired publicly. But I've always thought the right result here was for her to

acknowledge her guilt so that people could move on and she could be appropriately consequence

and healing could begin. I've had so many people ask me if I think she's going to get jail time.

The truth is, I don't know. It will be up to the judge at the sentencing hearing on October 23rd.

Woodenick plans to be there and I asked him to make one more prediction about her consequences.

I think incarceration is going to be part of her sentence. A lot of it is going to depend

on how Laura presents at sentencing. How she approaches her culpability at sentencing is a bigger deal.

Really saying she's guilty and fully acknowledging that guilt and what she's going to do to make

sure this never happens again is really a conversation for October 23rd. That's when we're going to hear

and see what Laura really meant by the words guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty.

A lot of the content creators who've been following this case from the very beginning weren't in

attendance. No one knew what to expect and no one really expected that she'd plead guilty.

But reality Steve was there and I caught up with him after the hearing.

I was still in amazement that the word guilty came out of this woman's mouth four times.

After three plus years of covering this woman, it was just bizarre to hear the woman admit it

and I hope she sticks by it. I asked Steve if there was anything that I missed that day.

One of the things that we were hearing in the courtroom that day and I didn't hear with my own

two ears but there were rumblings that quote unquote Laura just wanted to sign this and move on with

her life which is basically what we've been saying for three years. The only reason people

keep talking about this which in turn upsets her is because she kept it going and so when I heard

that I was like great but actions speak louder than words and if you admit to four guilty counts

stand by it. Stand on all ten toes and say yes this is what I believed I did wrong. Here's why

she doesn't owe us anything. I think all of us that have covered it are still curious as to the

wise behind a lot of this stuff. Maybe we'll get it from her someday. Maybe we won't.

As someone who's been following Clayton since the rose ceremony from hell,

Steve's been impressed by how Clayton handled the whole situation.

When we were standing there and Clayton came out he gave you a hug and I think you asked him how he

felt. I just remember him taking a good probably ten or fifteen seconds before he can answer

because I think he was a little emotional about it and when he finally said like hey it's just

amazing that this is the first time she's ever taken accountability this is the step in the right

direction. I do not want to see this woman suffer. I want her to be able to have a life and not end up

as a statistic essentially and I thought that was really empathetic for a guy who's literally

been tortured by this woman for the last three years. It shows you what kind of guy that Clayton is.

There were two more people I wanted to talk with to hear the reaction to the news. Mike and Danielle

Mara-Cheni. I was not shocked. I mean the evidence was overwhelmingly against her. I think it was

the only logical choice for her to do was to plead guilty but I was not shocked that she took it.

I was shocked. I was the opposite of Mike. I really thought one it was fake news and I had to

like double check with handful of people to figure out that it was real and two it felt like a

cop out to me frankly because again she's doubled down so hard on these narratives for so long.

I've had mixed emotions about it because part of me feels relief that she did take accountability.

The other part of me is that I want her to face the maximum sentencing and I don't know what the

sentencing is obviously going to be but when you take a plea it's usually a much lighter sentence

than actually going to trial. The next day my phone started blowing up. In a group text with

Mike and Danielle they delivered some big news. News Danielle got mull away on a quick trip with

their daughters. I was actually in Disneyland with my two kids on a rogue best friend trip and I

was laying in our hotel room in the pitch black because my kids were napping and I got two

texts from him that just were Danielle Danielle and all caps and a screenshot of the TEDx website

and then below it the caption said it's gone the video is gone. Laura's TEDx video about Mike

Mara-Chini was finally taken down. I was laying there in the dark and my daughter was laying next to me

then I just started crying like silently because it was such a relief that it's finally gone.

I mean people have watched it and told me about it and have said oh I don't believe it

but I think in the back of everybody's mind there was like doubt of whether or not it was

true or not and so the moment that I found out it was just we were ecstatic.

It was unbelievable to see that actually happen. I feel like it was the biggest win to date because

this video has been up for years and it's such a heinous video and I'm just so angry that TEDx

actually kept it up for this long. I felt immense relief when the video was taken down and I

broke down and I know I say that quite a bit but it's something where I always felt like people

had watched the video before talking with me and so now knowing that that isn't the case anymore

is truly just such a great feeling. Laura's set in Zing and Arizona is currently scheduled for

October 23rd. We'll be back with another episode then. In the meantime Mike and Danielle are

still waiting to see if Laura continues to pursue her appeal and her domestic violence restraining

order case in California. In light of Laura's guilty plea I asked Danielle if she thinks Laura

will back down from pursuing her appeal or filing a new DVRO against Mike. I don't think she's

actually remorseful is what it comes down to. I think she was caught red handed in the act and

she was forced into a corner. I don't actually believe that she thinks she was in the wrong.

She's trying to do what's in her best interest and I think that's the worst part of her pleading guilty

is because I know she's not sorry. We've known she's not sorry this whole time while she was

filing appeals in California with 14 felonies against her. She didn't care. She's had no mercy

on any of us and now she's asking for mercy. Get out of here.

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, try to leave.

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