Grid Down Warning: How America’s Power System Is More Vulnerable Than Ever

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1:02a brand-in-house television network. The Tamara Scott show. Tamara has served as the state director for one of America's largest pro-life, pro-family public policy organizations. In 2007, Tamara was named one of America's top 10 most influential King Makers by the Religion News Association. Tamara has spent years proclaiming and defending the values of a Christian World View that is the foundation of our Constitutional Republic. And now, here is your host, Tamara Scott. Hello, and welcome to the Tamara Scott Show. Today, I am your guest host, Nancy White. I am from Legislative Energy Action Foundation. And in past episodes, you may have heard me talk about the security of our infrastructure and primarily security of our grid.

2:03And for those that are unaware, I am in Texas. And we have had many grid issues in the past. And today's episode will be carrying that conversation further due to current trends in reference to time of conflict. And I do actually have a guest host with me today that I wanted to bring on. And this is my counterpart, Dawn Brown. Dawn works with me for security of the grid for the Texas, for the Texas sector, we're part of the Secure the Grid National Coalition. And Dawn, thank you so much for coming on today. And I am really excited to have you here. Can you kind of tell the audience out there a bit about, you know, your background and who you are? Sure. Thanks for having me on. My background is really in the technology base. I spent 20 years at IBM and 10 years at Dell. I have a degree in materials engineering and physics. And I've been in and out of the tech business for years.

3:08I retired in 2019 and have focused mainly on issues, local issues, and particular in Texas, the grid. So I became very involved in trying to get more activism on making legislation past that would help us to secure the grid. Yeah, thank you so much for taking the time to come on today. I'm very much excited about it. Yeah. And so with that, Dawn and I were discussing how do we get people to wake up to the reality of what we're dealing with? You know, far too often, it's very easy. The lights always turn on, the water's always flowing. And these days, you know, the internet fixed quickly. We do not have to worry about a time that the lights don't turn on. But there are multiple factors that have been in motion for decades at this point that are not being addressed. And one of those, and I think that really needs to be driven home,

4:11is current political stance, right? So for example, right now, we are in a partial government shutdown. And there are agencies that are not being paid right now. And an example of those agencies would be the Department of Homeland Security. Now, many may not fully understand what Department of Homeland Security does, but they are a frontline of defense, and they also fund multiple sectors, including our ports and our coast. So Homeland Security, make sure that our coast is constantly protected and our ports are corrected and are secure and safe. And we know in the past that has not been the case with our ports. For example, in Houston, Texas, there was a CCP military setup that had to be shut down. But there's also other issues of concern when looking at the ports. Don, you, I believe, know a bit about this, too. There have been connections to the port cranes having vulnerabilities of cyber connections as well.

5:15Is that correct? That is correct. Yes. You know that from our friend Joe Wise. Yes. And actually Joe Wise will be on with me tomorrow for anybody that's tuning in tomorrow. He's going to come on with me and kind of explain this in greater detail. But yes, the port cranes, you know how we get our imports and exports using the cranes to move those shipping containers. Those have vulnerabilities. If we can't have access to the goods and things we need, that is a huge impact to us as well. But additionally impacted and also under the sum of Department of Homeland is our cyber security defense, which is sister. And sister, Don, I always like it cyber security. Can you give me what sister stands for? Do you remember off top of your head? I don't. I know there are cyber defense for the nation. And I always like to let cyber security international. And I can't remember what sister stands for, but there are cyber defense for the nation is what it falls to. And one of the concerns that we have is Department of Homeland Security and sister are our defenses on our coast and on our infrastructure.

6:23And they are currently not being paid because our government is shut down. And the reason behind our government being shut down is because our Congress members cannot agree on how to handle members that are in our country illegally. And this just completely boggles my mind, the fact that we are currently in a government shutdown because there are entities that have broken our laws and our government instead of paying the people who defend us who make sure our ports are safer, our imports, our food, our resources that we receive are getting into our country to make sure that our lights stay on our water stays flowing. They are not being paid because we cannot agree as a country on how to handle entities that are here illegally. Does that make sense to you done in any capacity? No, no, this is, it is really almost an intentional effort to give us less security to really threaten us when it comes to the safety of the population.

7:37So we have, we have at risk, our infrastructure, we have at risk, our businesses, our families, and this is like a political blackmail that they're playing. And I think later in the broadcast, we're going to talk a little about Tom Holman and some of the statistics he's been giving in his, in the CPAC speech and also at Texas Public Policy about what that threat really is about. And what, what the job of ice, for example, which is driving all of this, this defunding effort is about. And so we can get into that a little later, but in general, he's making, they're making us less safe and at a very significant time when we're in conflict in the, in the Middle East and with Iran specifically. Actually, matter of fact, if we can pull that, that image, we have the image from sissa is specifically in reference to Iran on that issue.

8:39And in it, sissa put out a alert, a week ago from today, it was a week ago saying and a not acknowledging that we have known targeted attacks on our infrastructure right now from Iran. And they're targeting our wastewater systems, our energy sources, all the way down to the municipality local level. And whenever you go to their website, this is one of the first things you'll find on the sissa.gov website and they'll explain to you how they are exploiting our, our PLC, our communication devices within them. And that's a high point of concern whenever we're in a time of conflict with Iran. We are targeting their energy sources as they're targeting other energy sources, they are targeting to ran to leave in all these others in reference to their oil production, their gas production, their nuclear sites are they've been more than 20 sites, I think that have been hit already. And when we're looking at that, we also must look at the fact that Iran has been infiltrating our state infrastructure for at least 20 years.

9:49And it's been known and now we are sitting in a time of conflict right now with them as they are documented by our cyber defense for knowingly going in and targeting our water and our power. Meanwhile, that specific organization that is monitoring this is not being paid. And this is an important detail. When you're looking at protecting America, you're protecting the citizens, you're trying to keep the water flowing and the lights on from an adversary who wants to cause harm in a time of conflict. That is now we are in that right now and we must not we must stop looking at this idea that the lights will always turn on the water will always flow because the reality is that even in Texas, when you go back to winter storm Yuri, we were four minutes away, four minutes, 240 seconds away from losing our power sources. And that's not like a people you can't just go send them and have them reboot it. We were down for days, just in a brown out not even a hard shutdown.

10:53So when you're looking at these factors, you're not looking at a quick fix. This is months long fix minimum. And if it's because of a time of conflict, that can exponentially increase the amount of time of getting these critical resources back functioning, which will impact our life in the way we operate. And I know that that sounds like a lot of people like to call it fear mongering and it's scary. And the reality is, is that's a very appropriate feeling to losing power. It is scary and it's it's accurate to feel fear in that. But being afraid should not stop people from taking action. And what Don and I want to cover in this segment today is we want to make sure that when you walk away, you're investigating, you're asking questions. And you are getting educated on the truth and the severity of the situation, because when the highest ranking cyber defense in America says we are being infiltrated right now, it's important that we listen.

11:57So Don, we're about to go to our first break. Is there anything that you want to add before we go to the first break on this? Well, I would just highlight that it's not just cyber. It's physical and we've had we know what happened in Venezuela with taking out Maduro, but Venezuela has had a decades long decades long relationship with Iran. And they were giving Iranian Revolutionary Guards passports, Venezuela and passports and they were coming across the border. So we know we have we have cells inside the US today. I don't have specific confidential information on that, but we know from Michael Yon's videos that both Chinese and and the Iranians were coming across the border is identified by tattoos and other other ways.

12:58So we know they're in there and Tom Holman will get to that later, but Tom Holman said that we know for a fact that there were 2.1 million Godaways that came across the border. And we know that because the border patrol was so swamped with other, you know, taking care of the humanitarian side, that these Godaways took advantage of that through the cartels and they had them captured on camera and things like that, but they couldn't pursue them. They were too overwhelmed so that so that happened and out of counting that we have 2.1 million people that did not want to go through the border with the free plane rides to anywhere in the with the hotel rooms with all of that. So there are some we know there are some seriously bad people that have come across the border and we have to be really changing our mindset about this and and realize we really are in a conflict and we have to move from business as usual.

14:00So, you know, assuming everything's safe to a proactive how do we mobilize into a much more proactive aware and safe environment at the public level. I'm sure Homeland Security is involved and engaged on this and so is the Texas part, but from the public point of view, what can we do to encourage our legislators and others to move faster on this? To get them into a wartime mindset. So 2.1 million entities illegally in the United States right now as our government is shut down trying to determine how to handle these entities that we know are here to use us and to harm us in a time of conflict. So we're going to cover this in great detail for this next hour and we'll cover this more after this next break. Stay tuned.

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17:43grid down power up this is just the 14 minute trailer it's got Dennis quite in it and this is it's a very real scenario that many people need to go and get educated on. And it covers what that looks like in a time of conflict what that looks like and how we can be you this can be used to cause us harm. And Donna and I were covering you know we have a current government shut down where our department of Homeland Security are cyber defense teams are not being paid. As we know that there are 2.1 million at least in America right now that are illegally here that want to cause us harm and we know this from home and you know home and being our borders are telling us hey we have an issue. And so when we're looking at grid down power up and you're looking and you're going through this which there is an extended version coming out of that out very soon David ties has recently edited and that will be coming out soon so keep your eyes peeled for that one.

18:44But in that we want to be sure that you understand and you prepare yourself for such a time as this with a conflict where we know that we have entities illegally in the United States who want to cause us harm. And they want to do that by harming what we need to live and they will do this by causing what is called real world harm okay those words are significant because this is documented in state and federal documents that this the intent of this is real world harm. And what is real world harm look look like in America that's not being able to turn your lights on that's not being able to have clean drinking water that's not being able to stabilize food and keep it at a stable temperature. And so in that with the grid down power up we're not just looking at cyber attacks as Dawn said we're looking at physical attacks and done we have this chart that you provided and then this chart it goes over a bit of what those attacks are if we can pull that up and if you can explain what this chart is the it's going to be the one with the waveform.

19:49I apologize not this not the global inverter one but the one that shows yes that one thank you so much. Donna can you explain this to us. Certainly so there's there's a phenomena called EMP high altitude electromagnetic pulses and they can come from a variety of sources the two main ones that were concerned about is a solar flare which happens naturally. That's when the sun spot ejects as a coronal mass ejection and it ejects a huge amount of charge particles and if they just happen to be hitting the the earth then that can cause currents that that drive currents pulses into the transformer into the transmission lines and those pulses can destroy the trans the transformers. The second one is from really a nuclear explosion high atmosphere electromagnetic pulse and that really can send a very instantaneous nanosecond like pulse that is very high in energy.

21:02If 50,000 volts kind of per meter it gets into your electronics and when it hits the electronics it fries the electronics so you can see on the on the diagram on the left you see little blacks black marks where the electronics are those are the electronics being burned out by these high pulses that happen in nanoseconds you know microseconds. And then the other one is showing a transformer that is knocked out by this slow secondary or tertiary pulse it's called an E3 pulse and it damages the transformers through two different mechanisms over heating and harmonics the harmonics cause a heating inside the transformer as well. So both of these can be prevented and they're and they're very real the the natural one from solar is going to happen it's just a matter of time when we get a really big flare they've happened in the past multiple times and so we can protect these that's the good news and it's not that expensive in national terms to do these kinds of protections.

22:20But there's been real resistance by the utility industry to do to take action on it because they don't make money on they frankly don't make money on resilience they make they make money and have to be make money on reliability that your your grid is up but when it comes to resilience it's very hard to get a return on investment that you can convince the board and you can convince everybody else. That this is this is a worthwhile investment to make it's like an insurance policy and we're we're really running a lot of America without the insurance policy. And I think that that's important to emphasize further we know that there are vulnerabilities we know that they're in the transformers not just from solar flares but from components from foreign adversaries. And we know that these vulnerabilities exist but we have solutions to them we're not just here to say oh it's all doom and gloom it is bad but there are solutions and even then their American made solutions in primus is a prime example of that I know that sounded odd but in primus is actually an American based company that has the most secure transformers that one can provide and yet not a single one is being utilized in America.

23:41It's American made. Oh they've got a they've got three. Oh just three okay so there are three but in Texas or there there's not any in Texas. There's no other in Texas. I didn't think so there's so they're not in Texas but three in the United States. It's the E3 pulse that that that protects against that's the that's the slower pulse that takes out transformers that first pulse that high speed pulse does not take out transformers themselves it takes out. The electronics around the transformers that are running the transformers. Okay so this would protect the transformers and we know that there is at least I think it's up to 600 plus now transformers that are vulnerable at this time in the United States. Oh it's more it's many more than that. The in Texas alone there's some 18 1900 transformers just in the aircott area that are above 100,000 volts so.

24:46So we need to replace about 18 and 1900 just in Texas and well you could you could protect the top 100 200 for for you know less than a couple hundred million dollars. You know it's it's all these things are are doable that cost effective and they can be done. Which seems like a much better use of taxpayer funding when we're paying trillions and in some cases for unreliable energy and things like that we should instead be protecting what we have and building up with better stable actual energy sources would be the way that I would see that. Yeah and you probably you I don't know if you mentioned it but these are very hard and it will certainly mention in that 14 minute clip but these are very hard to quickly reproduce these transformers that the US doesn't have a huge transformer manufacturing based in themselves they're very heavy they're they're in the hundreds hundreds of tons.

25:46So they take special cars and trains to move these transformers and they take you know four to six years to replace a transformer. So these are these are custom made expensive and hard to move so when you you have an asset like that it's so critical to them to protect it. Right and what would that look like boots on the ground so we're right here we have known adversaries patent already in in America boots on the ground how could they possibly exploit some things such as a transformer like this. Well there's if you were talking about the physical attacks we've had physical attacks over the last you know 15 years the most well known one is Metcalf Californian where they had a team of you'd have you'd have to call them. Terror cells that came in and took rifle shots with rifles into the transformers at the Metcalf substation they were in and out within minutes and were able to damage the transformers and take those out there was a second attack that was just in the end of 2024 you know coming into 2025 it Duke out in North Carolina another rifle attack that was going on.

27:13So simple things to stop that could be just visual visual security around our substations that that blocks that block the visual accuracy of a shot so you can't see where to place your your projectile and so that's a very low cost fix to kind of give visual security ballistic security is more expensive but it's doable. Physical security again it could be drones that that are being used to attack any of these so there are things that were vulnerable to and from a physical point of view and then on the EMP it doesn't have to be a high altitude nuclear explosion to do this there are there are EMP weapons that you can put on the back of a pickup truck and take out a single transformer. And they may not know how what what knocked out the electronics on it for for you know a significant period of time they'll just not have the functioning of an automatic management system to manage the power through that through that substation so there are there are ways to you know attack these things there's a ways to monitor it there's ways to protect it and and the mindset that we need to urge our lawmakers.

28:40And our utilities on and ask them the questions of what are you doing I can drive down a highway and see these are visually you know these these transformers are visual I can see them you know what's stopping them from from being attacked if someone someone wants to do that that's a fair question for anybody to ask. Yeah so just a quick recap before this next break we have our government partially shut down not not funding our Department of Homeland Security not funding our cyber defense organizations and we know that I mean sister put out even a week ago that they're already attacking our critical resources our water and our energy this is documented by the highest level of intelligence. And then additionally we also have from our borders are home in himself saying that we have over two million entities boots on the ground here in America that are connected to these military entities.

29:41And we have like Don just said we have transformers that you can just drive a truck up to or these drones and you can harm them and there's like he said it wanted to 100 critical and if you hit some of the critical ones then you have a mass impact that cannot quickly be replaced. So before we go to this next break keep in mind these are very real very present and known vulnerabilities to our critical infrastructure and we'll continue after this break. Worldviewwater.net is your solution so that you can drink good clean water in fact I give it to all my three for babies all my three dogs I have one under my kitchen sink one of these filters as well as on my shower worldviewwater.net.

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33:26And for those that missed it i'm in Texas these are critical resources that we are lacking in right now in Texas we have a water issue we have a great issue and these these are significant matters that must be addressed. And so far we've covered the government shut down in the fact that those that are meant to protect our ports and our resources and. Our critical infrastructure at that from foreign adversaries are currently not being paid as we cannot determine and more more specifically our Congress cannot agree on how to handle the illegals that are in our country as our. Specific border czar and and that preferred call him that because I mean that's what he's known as he's very well informed on our border and that's home and acknowledges that we have over two million entities that we are known we know are connected to an adversary to a military adversary at that in our country right now and we. Have sister are very own cyber defense acknowledging that there are known vulnerabilities right now coming from Iran to our water and energy sources and then additionally dawn and I attended a hearing in Austin and business and commerce and this was April 1st you can pull it up on.

34:45The Texas legislative online website and you can watch it yourself it's about four hours almost five long and we were there the entire time and one of the things that I really found significant is how much or caught and public utility commission acknowledge the vulnerabilities. We have a chart this one has a lot of orange in it and and when you look at this chart if we can pull that up what you're going to be looking at in this orange graph like there's other colors in there but this significant part of the orange is that's inverters those are your inverters from China. And those inverters that are coming from China those are the ones that are communicating with the operational technology. And whenever if we're able to get that up that one is it's got 80% of our inverters come from China 80% and more specifically those entities are connected to the Chinese military company the people's Liberation Army or specifically to the Chinese Communist Party.

35:49So 80% like just for those that we're not like if you do go watch it what you'll see in the hearing is they specifically state orange is bad orange is bad is what they said in this hearing orange comes from China and specifically Chinese military companies that is who was providing our inverters right now for the solar and the batteries and the wind. So we're pushing these intermittent energies the solar the wind and the batteries and the batteries are the band aids and this is this chart right here is a prime example of why I say the batteries are our band aids but they're poison-laced band aids right here because we're putting a band aid that is coming from a foreign adversary onto a already broken system. And in this hearing not only did they acknowledge that 80% of the inverters come from China but there was a percentage in there that also came from Iran and one of the things that you would hear our Senators say Senator co-course with the one that said this to or caught into PUC.

36:56Due to the current geopolitical status under what circumstances do you think even 1% would be acceptable to allow Iran access and any capacity to our infrastructure and personally speaking the answer is none because we're not just talking about them having to infiltrate we're not just talking about them having to drive up to we're talking about they have access and control to reach into. And the thing that actually boggles my mind and don't I believe you're going to agree with me that boggles my mind at one point Senator Campbell asked them you know their recommendation to protect this was to add the Department of defenses national security company list and the states prohibited technology list to our loan star law the loan star law says you can't have any connections to China Iran or Russia North Korea. But yet we're allowing that and one of the things that she asked the gentleman from ERCOT will couldn't you do this without us telling you to have to do it legislation and the ERCOT individual actually said and this was the lawyer this was silly he said yes we can.

38:04Don didn't that kind of bother your mind a little whenever he acknowledged yeah we don't have to wait for you to do it we can do it but you need to tell us first it's a perfect example thanks for bringing that up it's a perfect example of the mindset. So if you up until this point while we're while we're you know quite vulnerable people don't see this happening and it's it's pervasive for all the institutions so you can see here's here are the people that are responsible for managing our grid. Overall here are the people that are overseeing it from a regulatory point of view sitting in the same room and they're not thinking proactively I don't fault them it's just they've been in this mindset of not thinking proactively what can we do if this was a wartime situation. Wouldn't we be dealing with this differently wouldn't we actually really be very focused with task force with with staff members with others saying what are the vulnerabilities well how do we get get this moving faster well how do we protect it what what kinds of technologies do we need to get in and how do we fund this.

39:15So all of those things are questions of of if it's business as usual you know the pet the bill that we just passed which was foundational and very important for Texas was a bill set of bill 75 that that looks at all these threats particularly EMP and cyber and studies them right and then by year five they're they're implementing them that's not what we're doing. The wartime mentality that's legislation legislation movement and that's not that's not your emergency orders kind of how do you focus on this and make something happen how do you protect the places that need to be protected as soon as possible why are we miss allocating our funds towards this something else versus putting it right on top of this why not why are we not allocating funds to making our family.

40:15And our business is more secure. Yeah absolutely and also in this hearing was Pablo Pablo is the president of Ircott and something else that he said that I he actually acknowledged there at the end that the reason we are pushing a lot more of these intermittent unreliable and he even acknowledged it was unreliable in the long term energies being the solar and wind and even the band aids of the batteries is because the market the market is funding it. So through our incentives I understand the big beautiful bill cuts it out in 2027 so next year. But in the interim Texas energy fund TF they're funding it through our state taxes and when we're looking at the fact that we're throwing these subsidies both at a state and government federal level and then also further subsidies through other aspects and it's it's benefiting these vulnerable technologies over once that what actually secure and protect our grid. A prime example of that actually when I was talking to Pablo once I was talking to him and what I presented is there was a situation we currently dirt thanks to your we have three filling generators in Texas and generators keep those fans blowing keeps the energy flowing right for those that are unaware of what they do.

41:32It keeps the flow think of it like a big box man it keeps it pushing it through and so we have three filling generators currently in Texas grid and when Pablo went to the public utility commission and said we need to replace these generators this can be 54 million dollars the public utility commission said no build more batteries instead. Well the reality is is that these these the reality is is that the grid cannot operate without the generators and that's something that absolutely must be addressed so with that said I think it's important that we really stop and we pay attention to the fact that it's not just the EMP or the drones or the trucks it's not just them having to hack in they also have. The market in their favor and the market is favoring entities that have control of that from the military and and don't before we go to this next break is there anything else that you want to add that really stuck out with you in that hearing as well for you.

42:34I think that that led into something we were at the Texas public policy of conference which is a conservative conference that that we were talking about grid security and one of the things that that became really clear is as they put in these renewable energies you you have that this paid purchase contracts that are put put in place for oil and gas for other industries for data centers and that allows them a discounted rate on renewable energies so so they get it they get a locked in rate which goes on to the back of us. So so the consumer so we're socializing that cost they get the credit for being an environmentally sensitive green company but at the cost to us so what else is promoting this is the ability for them to get that credit at a low cost.

43:43So they're getting all the cost and they're spreading the benefits so people are wondering around the country why is my electricity bill going up it's because these large corporations are getting the text are getting the credit from the investors from like black rock and black stone they get that environmental credit they can put it in their sustainability reports as we're green you know we're the good guys but they're socialized. They're raising all that cost to us because of that of the you know the purchase agreements that they have in order to get those credits we're paying for them we're paying for those for that socialization and that drives our our energy prices up. And it and it continues on more green stuff more green stuff because we're making money and utilities actually make money on it because the utilities make money when it speak every time the electricity prices up spike there they will make money on that.

44:50So the economics are also a big problem and how this is this is happening. Right it's a multi layer problem for sure and I absolutely feel like there are multiple layers that need to be addressed from the funding to the components to the security of all of these aspects for sure and we're going to wrap this up after this next break and I really just want to I want I want us to really focus and once again I know we said it a lot and it's really important that we we send this home. We must stop looking at this as if it's a normal day it's a normal normal legislative issue it's a normal there's nothing to be concerned about we are presently at this very time and a time of conflict with entities that are in our critical infrastructure and they're already targeting it so after this next break we're going to emphasize that and stay tuned. But with Brandon it's it's always cutting edge stuff happening in the world and it's not just from the political angle because you can get that on other platforms but it's always from the biblical angle.

46:12So you're dealing with a guy that loves Jesus you're dealing with a guy that's very intelligent you're dealing with a guy that is cutting edge conservatism and you're dealing with a guy that wants to be biblical all at the same time and so from that for that reason alone I hope many many people will not just lift up his ministry in prayer. But we'll also financially get behind it because he from the angle I'm trying to describe he really is the only game in town and we desperately needed in these last days can I get an amen to that. Welcome back to the Tamara Scott show I am your host Nancy White for today and I have my guest was with me Don Brown and on this last part we've already covered again the components the woods in the ground from the illegals here but I want to circle back Don I want to circle back to where we began discussing how we have a partial government shutdown right now that is keeping our.

47:19Our defenses from being funded Department of Homeland Security and Sissa for example our cyber defense and you and I discussed this briefly briefly and I'm going to give the definition and I want us to go through this Don and I were discussing we really need to bring the topic of treason back. treason really needs to be discussed again and the definition for those that do not know the full definition of treason it's the crime of betraying one's country. And for clarity that's the art that is article three of the Constitution and this is further defined by adhering to to emit enemies by giving them aid and comfort okay so treason is by giving aid and comfort to enemies by loving war against them on top of that. We are currently in a time of conflict where our defenses are currently not being funded they are not being paid to protect us which is a huge part of why we pay taxes is to make sure we are protected in our resources that we need to live our protected and the reason they are not being paid is because our federal government is stating that they cannot agree on whether or not entities should be here illegally.

48:35That we must give them comfort and aid for xyz reasons and while we're doing this and we're giving them you know snap food benefits xyz whatever it may be and they're here comfortably there is also documented documented evidence from home in himself saying over two million of them are here here as sleeper cells they are here to prepare and use our land against us in a time of conflict. Done we've gone back and forth over this what are your thoughts of this applying to treason that our federal government is currently arguing over this as they're making us more vulnerable in a time of conflict. Well I think it's a reasonable argument that should that should come out more we should we should be having this because these things really are facilitate facilitating the bad guys and we'd now you know designated the cartels as terrorist organizations we are identifying other organizations that are funded in this country as terrorist organizations tied to terrorist networks and then when you have members of our own government.

49:46That are actually facilitating this process I think that's a very valid question is that these are these are really treasonous actions they're aiding and abetting the the enemies of this country in not removing them. If anything they should be increasing their the amount of resources to remove these people Tom Holman in his statement said since Trump came in they've removed 800,000 people out of that 450,000 of them were public safety threat meaning they had they had safety like violent crime criminal record so 450,000 they're. They've been focused on top priorities they're trying to remove everybody so he's he's committed to remove everybody but those that that are here that that people are saying protect those people are here many of them are tied up by the by the cartels in either sex trade sex slavery or forced labor and so you know kids were brought in 300,000 couldn't be located.

51:02And now of those you know many of them were put into forced labor or into the sex trade. Holman is located out of the 300,000 the the ice has located 146,000 of those children so they now know where they're at but they came kids are the hardest thing to locate you know they don't have a digital footprint they're they don't have social security they're not they're not being long. So they there's they're hard to find and so we've got a remaining almost 150,000 children that have not been found they're still in this country and all the people that came through you had a 30% of the of the women that were coming through there was 30 31% of them were being raped reportedly as they came across the border so stopping this immigration was a humanitarian thing it is the most humane thing that. You can do is really to stop this crime and then the further crime it comes into this country and to cut off the funds to the very people that are only following the law that the that Congress put in place on immigration they're following strictly the law what is that to me all that ends up to to being arguments towards treason on some of these.

52:31It's really treason on some of these they're doing harm intentionally to this country yes and in turn allowing and opening up greater harm for more people and and all for the argument of they need to be here for aid and comfort it's for them that we're allowing this to happen while we're exposing our own country to further vulnerabilities because to think that an enemy would not be able to do that. We do not use this point of weakness to cause harm to us is just absolute insanity honestly of course they would and then I'll give you one more example of this being the escalation of threats on ice agents is up the threats on ice agents is up 8000% since they started calling the ice agents Nazis and trying to demask them and trying to you know expose their family members and things like that. They're attacking federal officers they are facilitating the attack on federal officers so they're just using they're using the the people out there that will get program to do that they're using them as a weapon against our own federal officers it's outrageous it's absolutely outrageous absolutely agree and you know we're coming to the top of the top of the hour and we wanted to make sure

54:01we got the message across about that we're vulnerable we've been vulnerable for a very long time and this isn't just an everyday vulnerability that's been in place that's been building up we're now seeing the fruition of that plan come into play and we're getting much closer to the potential loss of those resources especially when we know that they're already being targeted with that said don't come into the top of that hour is there any final words you want to give to the audience and make sure that they receive well yes I would say that that much of this is in Christ's hands that that we need to pray pray constantly be thankful for the for the energy that we have the the infrastructure that we have we also need to be vigilant and used a pray for discernment on how to move forward on this as a population as a family as a church you know this is this is so important in our DNA of this country you know that we really need to bring Christ into this and and be asking for guidance on this and praying for those individuals that are that are in our public service in our companies that are that are brave and standing up and trying to move this forward.

55:21I agree and especially for the prayer for discernment to be completely honest with you it just because it always has doesn't mean it always will be and I think it's really important that it isn't fear mongering it isn't it isn't theoretical it isn't conspiracy these are clear and continue documented proof of these vulnerabilities and we must stop looking at one piece and start looking at all the pieces. And we really need to start praying for something to be done because the reality is we are vulnerable and 240 seconds 240 seconds is the difference of what it was that Texas nearly lost all its power and there was no backup. We would have to repair it and we don't have a quick fix of connection to outside sources 240 seconds was the difference of time. That Texas nearly lost its resource of power which would have impacted food and water and more. You can help by the way make this conversation known to to many people we gave you some some resources the 14 minute video is is excellent some of the other if you follow Nancy on X.

56:34She is constantly exposing she's the media side of our of our equation here she's constantly exposing what's happening and where you can get involved so follow Nancy on X. Yeah, my ex is Nancy for thinking or you can go to my website legislative energy action foundation calm and you know we're just we're here to try to make sure that you're educated and informed. We're not going to try to tell you what to do we have solutions the problems are very prevalent but there are solutions to them so being afraid is half the battle the next half is what are you going to do about it. We can be mad all day long but at the end of the day we're responsible as we the people of this constitutional republic to make sure that those that we pay our taxes to that those that are meant to serve we the people are doing their job. And right now i'm seeing a very glaring problem that we're currently shut down and not defending and funding those that we paid to do this and we must stand up and make sure that our lights stay on our water stays flowing and that we hold them accountable at the end of the day.

57:45So I know that this was a very heavy episode and tomorrow we're going to bring in an expert Joe Wise is an international cyber expert he's going to break down he's going to go over the details of those operational failures the actual attacks we've already seen and he's going to tell you more about what you should know to make sure that you fully understand the depth of these vulnerabilities. So thank you again for tuning into the tomato Scott show and we'll definitely see you next time.