Gorton and Denton goes Green

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1:01Sometimes you've got to take a distance journey to make a really bad take. You don't have to make the journey. I can do it right from this very studio. Yes, there we go. Not when I'm around. Playtime's over. Yes. The cup right is out there. It's beautiful outside. It's beautiful. And an RAF base was hit in Cyprus or the runway. I'm going to do that with someone more qualified than these two later today. So we'll post that video later. Unless you want to, well, do you guys want to hazard a guess about where Cyprus is? That could be. I know exactly why Cyprus is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Do you know? Just that there are some places that you're not sure of, like the Cheg or Silence, but... Well, they're not. I know, it's exactly where they're at. I don't know. I check on them out. Oh, it's good, it's good, that. And... I've grown with the audience, you know? We're going to talk about something that we're actually qualified to talk about as reform voters. Yeah. Patriots. I wouldn't even say I'm qualified to talk about it still.

2:03We're going to talk... Well, no, I'm an exception to this policy real life, I... You are. Yeah. Being a member of the former... What other countries are there that used to be in the empire, but aren't coming well? Yeah, see, I just don't want to start using this podcast as like a vehicle for us to start, like guessing things. I think... I think Barbados is one of them. Oh, sorry, you're actually talking about Commonwealth. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I thought he was still on site for us. No, no, no. Because they can vote here as well. But they won't. Yeah. Well, they won't be allowed to. Well, they won't be allowed to under a form of a new plan. So essentially, what I wanted to talk to you about this morning, what we want to talk to you about this morning, is the Gordon Adenton by election, and there were accusations of family voting. Family voting is when more than one person enters a booth, and there is... I didn't see that. Well, so it's gone then. Family voting, as defined by the democracy volunteers, which is this organisation that decided to break this big story after polls were closed,

3:03not until anyone, until such point. Family voting can be, if men were related, and before I go to the booth, I go, I'm voting Labour, and then I go into the booth. That's the same category as if men you go into the booth together. I've got to confess something, fellas. I have been family voting. You know, I was reading it. I was thinking, I'm fairly sure relatives of mine have done things like that in the past, or maybe not just before going up to the... I think I've asked my mum for a set of way before. I think I've had conversations with my sister about who she's going to vote for as well. Lobby, they're relatives, you know? Well, not the relatives, or if the relatives aren't so politically active or clued in, they'll ask the person that they trust with politics. There was this way. Yeah, absolutely. This all came about because firstly, there was the family voting accusation by... What were they even called? Democracy volunteers. Democracy volunteers. In the press release, they were like, in our long ten-year history of votes,

4:07we've never seen anything this bad. Ten years, isn't it, actually, that many years? I've never heard of them before, and I get a lot of press releases. So do you? Have you ever had a press release from democracy volunteers? Never. I would have just thought that that's an occupation. I wouldn't have considered it a group. Right. Like the people that cross you off when you go up and say, this is my name, I'm here to vote, that's a democracy vote. I would have thought so. I'm particularly interested in this because there was a clip that then circulated of Sam Cotes, who is Skye's deputy political editor. Very early in the morning, I actually watched it live. And when you... Yep, and then the clip then went viral of him talking about Southeast Asian families, and he said that when he was in Gorten and Denton, he had spoken to women who said, my husband deals with this. And when he had said it, my eyebrows were raised, because I thought to myself, I feel like that's something I would say if I didn't want to talk to a officer.

5:09Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And my husband looks after that. I'm not being naive to that there are families where there is influential voting. There is people who are pressured into voting by their spouses. Do I think it's as grave as it's being made out, or racialized as it's being made out? No, I don't. Well, I couldn't take it that seriously. Richard Ties reform's next leader. So this is the worst sectarian vote I've ever seen, and it's all the worst. I think the Rochdale by-election was objectively worse. Like, they reform candidate Simon Dunchuk, the predator. He got death threats, because he wasn't Muslim. Like, objectively, that was far more sectarian than this. And I just... Yeah, I just think it's really difficult to sell like a white blonde woman who... What's for a gay Jew? It's for a gay Jew who supports trans people. You're bang on, Andy. He lies, drugs. Yes, I don't. It's not very, isn't it? That would be the most bizarre sectarian voting incident.

6:09But is this... Is it just the family vote and aspect of it, and the fact that a lot of the Muslim community engort and intend to be voted for the Greens, that they're saying that this is a sectarian election? Well, I think... As well, the Muslim people voted for... Because in 2024... Like, isn't the swing something like... Labour are down 25 percent. The Greens are up 27 percent. So if anything, then in 2024, a Labour were the sectarian vote. Well, that's... Well, that's the argument for making... Well, the other side of that, as well, is that you could then say, like, the anti-Muslim vote is also sectarian. So to vote reform is to be sectarian, because you don't want to advance the needs of the Muslim population of that area. Would the right wing line... Don't think it works. It doesn't work. Like, all Irish people are sat here going, am I a fucking joke to you? Calling this sectarian, so... Yeah. You lot have been voting along religious lines for... Tyna no more, you know. Absolutely. You fucking love it. And... I mean, they were putting out the Green Party were putting out videos in Erdo,

7:10which was contentious on Twitter. I think the Modi thing was peak. What did they do with Modi? They just... I don't think they found the way to... A little picture of Modi would start, which... You would be surprised that... He's not a friend of the Pakistani community. Yeah, I believe was the implication. Spice, sauce, love it. I don't necessarily think that it's a bad thing to be... It's campaigning. Well, this is... Yeah, it's like... Clearly, they saw Zaramam Dhani's foreign language campaigning and some digital comms guy. The Greens was like, yeah, that's class. Let's do that. I don't think it's... I don't think that's... I don't think that's the right thing. Yeah, I think the Modi thing's peak, but campaigning is only fine. Well, you're just trying to reach a community that is eligible to vote. So, I don't really understand what the issue is. And I think it's probably just that it's new that a lot of people are looking at it and going like, oh, I don't know about that. But then, didn't they follow it up with one that was in Bangla? Yeah, but she... She spoke Hannah Spencer, the new grandpa,

8:11clearly struggled with Bangla more, because she only said, like, one phrase in Bangla in the video, but she got like a few lines in her due. So, she clearly enjoyed the OD language more. She in fame, though, it's like them campaigning in English. Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly the same. It's exactly like that. It's like them campaigning in Ulster Scots. Okay. That's what it would be. I saw a video the other day. This is an old video as well, of a former UUP MP that was doing his... You know, the way there's some... Like, I think Claire Hallett did it, or maybe it was Colomies with the... Someone from the SDLP, anyway, did their Pledge of Allegiance when they were being admitted to Parliament in 2024 in Irish. There was a UUP MP, not this time round, the last time there was an election that did his in Ulster Scots. Thanks. He's just speaking English. We're very... I swear, I swear.

9:13So I do... I am... The kind, so you do. So, then this... So, after this family voting allegations, oh, by the way, one thing I would say was rather interesting was Nadine Zaharri was on Sky over... over the course of the by-election evening. And he kept referring to Islamist voters. And I don't know if it was a slip of the tongue, where he doesn't understand the difference between Laura and I were bitching about it, actually. Yeah, we were... What's that bitching about? Whether he didn't understand the difference between Islam and Islamist, two different things. The argument being, he was making this argument that a lot of Islamist voters might have come out in Gordon and Denton. The Greens were appealing to Islamist voters. Now, look, I don't want to sound too right-wing here. But I do think if the Green Party had been going after the Islamist fundamentalists... They would have lost. I don't think that the campaign would have carried particularly well.

10:14Right? Well, yeah, again, on the thing of the gay Jewish leader, white woman candidate, like an Islamist would not vote for that person. Well, also, Sidi Khan was pretty upset when he was called an Islamist. Because he's not a fundamentalist. I think it's like a complete... They're doing this knowingly, you know? He must have won, like, the means of how he knows exactly what kind of... I just did a quick early life check of... Yeah, he was brought to a liberal Muslim family in Iraq, like... Yeah. A Kurd, I think, he is. I was being slightly facetious, but, you know... Well, no, but that was a good point. He's a Kurdish Iraqi, it is. Like, he's off that world. He knows what language he is using and who it's... Infernocy, forgot to pay his taxes, so you might have forgotten that. That's true. I'm going to start very... He is stable, though. He did not. We... But you know what? That's the thing about this country, right? That's the thing about the right wing, right? If you forget to pay your taxes, it's fine. If you fund companies like Palantir, it's absolutely fine.

11:16But, my God, if you treat an animal badly, you are going down. That's why I hate rugby, though. I can't. We've seen the bed... The program of the far right and people who love dogs is a circle. Oh, yeah, I know. That's a... Rupert Lois shot his dog. I hate him for that. He shot his dog. Yeah. He put his dog down. But, like... Well, if he... No, he didn't put it down. He didn't send it to a vet and then he sent his groundskeeper to execute it. Right. The dog's name is Kroma. That's turned me off from him. I can't. He's... He's a man that would have a dog call a Kroma. Why do you shoot his dog? Maybe I can put that in the piece I'm doing this week. I think it's quite well documented. Yeah, but maybe it would be interesting as a little bit of flavor in the piece. If the dog was sick, like... He wasn't sick. He just couldn't run. Oh. Oh, was a greyhound. I don't know what kind of dog it was. I should... I should find out. You should probably find out. Yeah, you... You probably climbed down a lot from... He shot his dog. He did shoot his way around. He paid his... He goes made away... I just think we're going to say someone shot their dog.

12:17I think we should do. Absolutely certain that they did do. He ordered the death of his dog. He ordered the death of his dog. He absolutely did. All right, can we just... That is absolutely correct. Can you just sit there and look that up and find it? I've said that... He would have sued me by now. I've said it on a lot of outlets. All right, great. But, you know, Rupert Lowe, avid listener. Yeah. How are you, Rupert? Good morning, Rupert. Good morning. I'm going to start saying that you're an IRA voter. Why? If Nadeem Zaharwe can say that there is a list of voters, why can't I just say that? I can't offer it to be angry. The great shame of this country is that I cannot vote. What have you pulled up there, the matcho? The Eastern Daily Press. Oh, can you find something else? What's wrong with the Eastern Daily Press? No, I'm sure, but can you just not find a subsidiary of Reach PLC? Yeah, I think you can. All right. There you go. That'll do. There you go. Make some progress. I don't hate local journalism. I'm just saying. I don't want to be sued this morning.

13:18All right. Maybe later. Rest in peace, Cromwell. The dog only. Not the guy. Yeah. That reminds me of you, Cromwell. You're saying Rest in peace is a right reminder move. Did you see that video going around? That was like, Rest in peace. My granny. You got here by her. That's OK. Every time I get there, who can? You know, it goes, Cromwell. Cromwell. Well, in Bahrain, there was a video that came out. Let me play the audio. No, he just... It's just going to be such a letdown when I says, you know, he just says kaboom and it made me... I thought that was amazing. Oh, so it's not the song playing? No. What was the one in... Do you remember... there were people in Lebanon, in Southern Lebanon, when Iran was doing the last strike on Israel. This is Bahrain air defense crew intercepting incoming the song. I'm not really meant to even have this video.

14:18This is for someone... Yeah, I'll tell you who sent me that. Oh. Oh, is that someone that shouldn't be sharing that kind of thing? Yeah. I think... I think that's pretty verified. It might be verified now. Well, it's a source. It's a good reliable source of yours. It is a good, reliable source. This is not the same thing, but, you know, that chaingill is a bit of who he was cheering for during the war on terror. And it was... You see videos of guys in Iraq and Afghanistan with, like, an RPG that are attacking an American tank. And it's so rare that they actually have success in that. That there's shock more than delight when they blow up a tank. The videos are like... ...spang kaboom. But then the Americans... Yeah. The Americans... ...jash bang wedding.

15:19Tens of people dead... ...clean. And then that's... Yeah. That was pretty good. I've never seen this bit. And chaingill is surely... Surely you guys have seen this. I've seen chaingill. I've never seen that. That's the spicy debate Saturday night on Five Live. Okay. I thought I said something quite reasonable, which was I don't think you should shoot a bomb school children. And they said, no, the IDF has... Right, the IDF got... It's a bomb school. You don't know that they did it intentionally. I think it would actually be remiss. I think it would... I think the IDF would find it really offensive. If we suggested... The accident. The accident did something, right? Okay. Those boys work with precision, okay? No, no mistakes. I just said... I think that I just seen bombing a school where 40 children are. I don't think we should just knock that off as a casualty of war. I think that's...

16:19That's a really bad thing. Like me, the blowback I got from that. We even got a cooler. Someone rang in. Someone rang in. To say to me, it's actually just a casualty of war. Just say, all right, come back to me when your child's dead. Like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't think. Well, there was that thing. I think Channel 4 were important on it yesterday, where there was a spokesperson from the Israeli... Either defense or foreign ministry that was stood outside a... A section of a school that was bombed. Fire less than 80 casualties. I think maybe less than 10, actually. Really? Yes, at least, at all. But is standing in... Unsuccessful pursuit. It's a good idea. It's standing in like the crater of a missile. Being like this disgusting, this disgraceful, this is a war crime blow-up lab. The Channel 4 journalist says to him, yesterday, you guys killed 80 students in Iran. He's like, it's a casualty of war. Right. This was a war crime. That was a casualty of war.

17:20We should be allowed to do these things. Yeah, I did actually hear a breaking news. Well, no, it was in the bulletin, I was listening to it the weekend and it was like an Israeli woman has died and it was like Can we also mention the one hundred people who have been killed, you know There's this thing on Twitter. It's quite funny. It's From all the tweets from all that the paid Israeli government influencers That sounds like a conspiracy theory. They do actually pay influencers to Twitter and the bar And Who's Mike now? I know I'm not I'm Andy Could you look that up as well? Could you look that is legit? That is legit. That is legit. I don't need to be fact checked on everything I say This guy just opens his mouth and you're like, can you just check that? But anyway The influencers they're shooting dogs Nothing he was right. Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna let everyone starve These these they they have a Cleveland herald wrote it. I'm telling you now What's that account that's like um Uh I saw it on the onion

18:23Carry on Andy go on um they had all these tweets from like when they were bombing girls and people were complaining about those who were going like Don't complain about a war that you started and then they're all intrigued. I mean the bunker I'm shaking now over the last couple of years and I thought that was Well, do you know what they've had a terrible time of it at the Dubai International Airport? Have you seen these guys? This this the guys and girls who couldn't get their luggage back for eight hours Oh, it's class if you're not seeing this on tech talk. It's like all it's like like proper influencer types like you know like the proper like The you know, they've got the Instagram face So you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm talking about and there's They're like doing videos see these people in real life, isn't it? Yeah, so you shouldn't see them in real life It is really just orientating. There was a woman of love island who I once saw in real life And I genuinely went oh my god Because her proportions were so come tipped by Whatever she'd done whatever she'd done to herself. I was like oh my god. Like what have you done to your face a similar thing

19:24Can I make this point about? Yeah, yeah anyway, so so there's this influence and she's like We tried to get into the BA lounge, but obviously like all the first class passengers are already in there and we're all delayed So we couldn't get in and so now we just found this sea. Oh my god, look and I'm looking at the plane They're obviously just you know trying to like you know push it down the line a little bit We all know we're not flying. So can we just have our luggage back? I want to go back to the hotel I was like honey and then I looked at the comments and it was really life-affirming which was just like the comments Sorry, there's a war The bleach your report app is your destination for sports right now the NBA's heating up March manness is here and MLB is almost back every day. There's a new headline a new highlight a new moment You've got to see for yourself. That's why I stay locked in with the bleach your report app for me It's about staying connected to my sports. I could follow the teams. I care about get real-time scores breaking news and highlights all in one place

20:26Download the bleach your report app today, so you never miss a moment Hey, Sam. Hank what's going on? We haven't worked a case in years I just bought my car at Carvada and it was so easy too easy. I think something's up Shoot tell me they got thousands of options Found a great car at a great price, and it got delivered the next day Sounds like Carvada just makes it easy to buy your car. Hank. Yeah, you're right. Case closed Buy your car today on Delivery fees may apply You're a moron I thought it was an awful is about oak shop obviously talk TV's international editor and part-time propagandist for perform UK lives in Dubai She lives in Dubai and she tweeted this thing. I'm trying to find it Um here is the spirit of Dubai in one act. My daughter has a severely disabled teacher who gives her extra lessons that weekends

21:30He's wheelchair bound. Today. We expected him to cancel yet. He's taking a special special vehicle across town to get to her Loveheart I emojis. That's how we are Dubai flag Um, that's actually been edited. She edited um, it was public transport before and then she changed its special vehicle I think if the spirit of Dubai is you're making your really disabled teacher come across in the middle of a war zone to teach your daughter lessons That's not a great spirit. Yeah, to be honest I don't think it's actually quite characteristic of Dubai from what I actually take umbridge with you. I would say the all transport is a special vehicle That's because I enjoy a train What's your favorite train ever? Any any vehicle can be special if you see it's beautiful Every time you get on a train, it's like the poke touching down in the middle of a train Well, you know, I'm a violent claustrophobic and now that we've moved I have to get the tube to work And so I do every time I get off the tube. I do never hope she's the ground I did think that that was going to be quite triggering. It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible

22:33About that. Yeah, so now how is it? It's really rough. Yeah, because you're talking. Well, no that train is I can get that top train if it runs and it doesn't run very often It was a tube today if I'm right. Was it two tubes? You got fun tubes fun tube Well, I actually did three tubes because if I break up the journey then I bet that the least amount of time that I'm on Specific tube the better. I can mount I can I can Sometimes I could get through like six seven minutes if we're getting into the tens I'm not good. Right. That's when I come in here in a fluster. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, would you be taking breaks in between if it's like 15 stop tube get off get the next one. Yeah, I feel about the Elizabeth line Well, that's close to training. It's more a train. I call that. It's more of a train and see again It's like No one trainer. I'm fine. Actually circuit district. I'm fine on Elizabeth. I used to be fine on and then then people got stuck in it one time for three hours And I haven't gotten on it. Yeah, that was that was out in like

23:35Reading or something. He's not like in I'm not good Don't tell me how to be claustrophobic and then um the one one I am very good on the top train that goes underground. That's a fantastic train. That is the top train that goes underground Yeah, if you've never seen that you you do the other platform at hybrin islington You know Victoria likes on one that the other is a top train Is a top train that goes like all the way to Cambridge? Well train top train. What the for the top train me? I'm probably like a big train like a like a like a like a like a train. Yeah Top train It's the top part of it. It's not like an old like a train that's yeah, but not the overgrown crucially It's not a subterranean train It's not no Amazing. It's got like I know the way you're talking about it. It goes down to Brighton But it'll do like back to bright black fryer is one of the bridge. Yeah, yeah, that one doesn't go to bright Eating you the time. That goes up to it goes up to like Ken or a six right. Yeah, I think you have the temslink

24:36It is the temslink This is a this is a the temsunk. This is a this one goes to no, it's a great northern railway. Oh Sean's talking about the temsling because that's the woman. Yeah, I was talking to him now Yeah, sorry guys. Sorry about that. Anyway, sorry about the train break there Too do perform. I actually do want to talk about reform So the whole that we're getting to the actual meat this now. We're getting to the nugget to the meatball right The nugget and the meatball. Yeah chicken nugget beef meatball corn do both That's right. Yeah reform or corn Sorry corn corn reform have they put out a press release late Saturday evening and it was followed up by Words in the mail on Sunday and the telegraph from night or forage and it's about where they see voting if they were to get into government So the policy that has been announced is that if you have Commonwealth commonwealth de facto citizenship you will no longer be allowed to vote in the united kingdom under a reform government Interestingly, they picked up two countries from the Commonwealth

25:39um neither of those were um white white yes So so they they they didn't they neglected to mention people from Australia can vote Cyprus can vote kind of the can vote uh Who was it? What were the two countries that they went after Andy? I didn't get the press release. Oh Performed to have me on their press if you're listening you can add me. You've got email So there are two countries that are named in that press release. It's Pakistan in India They were neglect to mention that there's also Australia, Canada, Cyprus now. Why would they have done a thing like that? Andy because Pakistan is a Muslim country and in their eyes India is close enough. So They just it's it's this bizarre race baiting for the back of Gordon Denson because if it was all white Terry and men Matt Goodwin would have won good But because there were brown people in the UK bad and he lost I don't think that they're embracing populism enough. I don't think they are either. It's not very popular I I did want to raise I put this in the please go for it There is a bit of a hypocrisy with reform

26:43You'll be shocked to hear that deal listener Um because they've stood a candidate down south Who's actually a Bangladeshi national and came here on a student visa and it's got Leave to remain Adi Mo as Adizerman Has been chosen to stand as a reform candidate in the central sounds to see ward in the May 2026 port Port Smith city council elections So not only will he not be able to vote for himself He'll also get the port. Well, so the the weird We share great ways that I'm not sure why you're right But the thing is so port Smith reform leader the guy their leader on the council George magic condemned the criticism from like the kind of Right of reform that we're having to go at a Bangladeshi national standing for reform as frankly disgusting and quote This is the kind of migration we want people who pay to come here who are educated who work for time in pay taxes People who integrate and help the community So clearly there's a bit of a canyon between George magic and reform leadership But small boats crossings. They also do pay to get here

27:46Yeah, I'm just saying that's kind of a whole point. You don't have to convince me. They pay thousands to come here Not towards yeah, but they're not paying the tax on that stuff either Well, that that is that not that's also quite reform, isn't it? To not pay directly. Yeah, I can't just move on something like that. No, no, I was apparently the one to minimize the amount of tax on higher Okay, I would say a people trafficker is earning a lot of money Without paying tax. I didn't pay any tax. Yeah Well, maybe it'll be like vented and that it'll be brought under HMRC shortly Have to go on I or 35 That's the human trafficker. I'm actually outside I or 35 As a human trafficker. Oh, it's astounding And And definitely to remain up is up for debate as well with reform. They want to end definitely to remain I mean, there's millions of people on the that that visa scheme A lot of EU nationals went on after Brexit and a lot of Americans are in this country on that ticket as well So I don't know what they would do there whether they would I can't imagine that Nigel Farage who tweeted this weekend that we must absolutely follow suit with America and begin a bombing campaign of Iran

28:54If that's what Trump and Netanyahu want to do. I'd be very surprised if he decided to start kicking out Americans So is there going to be like a sort of A white clause or one of these I think that this is the part of it that family guy But like this The yeah, yeah, not okay, not okay, okay, yeah um Their next proposal you'd imagine is going to be something along the lines of we're going to have a different visa system for people the we've deemed worthy of being in this country That isn't indefinitely to remain Reformed don't strike me as the kind of party that should be put in more quangos in place or having like a this is the American visa system This is the European Union visa system. This is the Indian visa system This like the amount of civil servants you're going to have to employ to implement something like that is insane and reformer not the party That's marketing themselves as a party that's going to do that kind of

29:54civil They want to de bloat whitehall, don't they yeah, but this this policy you'll need more civil service Yeah, you have this and you know they throw it we're going to abolish the quangos and get rid of all the quangos They can't name the quangos I hate the term quangos. I was having this discussion with it's a very Westminster turn it's like another Quite high profile right wing commentator and she's going we need to abolish all the quangos and then just put all the money back into the government And then we'll not be in debt Post recession word as well quangos. It is it's just a buzzword. Yeah, it's an austerity. Yeah, isn't it really but she was but that's not to look at That's not to neglect that there are actually God, I'm going to have to use a time again. There are actually many quangos in whitehall that could be gotten rid of But the off-com being the central off gem as well. I would say Well, they don't work I mean what I don't know what is it they've saved us a hundred pounds of our energy bills this year Thanks ever so much. I can buy a couple of coffees with that, you know Like give me strength. It's two-and-a-half months of Netflix. Yes

30:57Two-and-a-half months from Netflix. Which blocks you? Not really I don't know a couple of coffees, is it? And yeah, maybe big coffees Perhaps and it could be a really big coffee. Yeah, but like quangos they like the flood defense in the UK is them by quango The wildfire resistance is them by quango like just going abolish all quangos. It's just stupid Well, I don't actually mind the idea of quangos Yeah, but that's to me. I don't actually mind the principle of abolishing all quangos and bringing everything back in in-house Do you know state authoritarian? No, but you know, I would actually I don't I'm not even outsourcing. I would quite like most of these, you know, I actually don't like I'm going to say something really controversial here Andy I really don't like when a private company is given taxpayer money Well, yeah exactly. Carried out an essential serve. It's the exact act when it came to the the water debate, right? Is that like The government find it so easy or they're they have the luxury of being able to blame somebody else when um When water systems are breaking down and when the water companies are not doing what they should to replace or rejuvenate the system

32:02Yeah, because they don't have any control over it Bring it back into state control means that there's a direct responsibility on the government of the day to do these things So yeah abolished quangos make the government do all of it, you know real I want to see Keir start. This is the thing makes me laugh with Leila Cunningham. They reform mayor london candidate. She goes where city corn shoplifting is an all-time high I personally want to see him in Tesco's Like rugby tackling shoplifters. Do you that's what I want to say? That's the kind of state action That is his job as the mayor is the mayor is the mayor and he's got to stop testers We've already taken inspector on buses Goes around like little car One thing I would really like to see I would really like to see all of those Crap shops in central London shut down like the candy shops. Yeah You know, so the Londoner which is Jim Morrison's project did a really good piece on this They were talking about how a lot of these places while it will be the same framework the business behind the shop Shots up before the year end in order to not pay tax

33:05Genius, I just really don't think that that should be allowed And Westminster council is so overbearing. I don't see why they're allowing this like fluctuation Of businesses in central London. I don't know why this doesn't have a more hawkish eye onto it You know what I mean? I also just think the loophole of if you work there for less If you if you own a premise or you run a premise for less than a year you don't have to be taxed I would I would close that loophole personally. I don't Agree with that That's one of the problems with city cans London. I thought was very sad And this is such a Westminster century thing. So I apologize. There are two Tesco's and Westminster There's one right next to Westminster station which is Abominable horrible place. They used to be one of by Trafalgar Square. That's dead now. It's now a tax shot Is it good one of the it's like a Harry star? That was a horrible test. That was it was better No, I don't agree with that at all. I remember working Round by lessons square and I used to fight for my life in that Tesco. I was there to be Let's go now it's Harry Potter. That whole area is horrible actually

34:08What TFQ all of the all around Trafalgar Square those shops there the pubs there are horrible actually there's a grape the walkers What is it that one on the wheel and the horse and go. No, that was okay. I just loved that part though It was a good ale, but the the walk is white hall Yeah, I just think it's got such an eerie energy, but I guess a lot of central cities do don't they but that Tesco is horrible That prep round there is like you're fighting for your life in it like in a row next to there is quite good It's so niche if you've ever come to Westminster the recommend there's where you won't find us I wouldn't spend any time there though if I if I could I would put like signs up at the tourists like gout of here Honestly, like you're gonna get a really bad impression of the city if you hang around here too long There's a really great ungrept shout a really great calf the breadline calf It's just I don't know national gallery. It's really fantastic. Is that yeah, it's one of the best cuffs in London. I'll do it Do you like Regency Cafe? Not really I went there. I went after doing this pod last week at like

35:099 39 45 I got there. I was queuing really I'm not queuing for a calf. No fuck off It's it's absolutely. It's all these stories and Tories tourists. They may be tourists tourists. They could they're taking them They're taking it in like you know the walk around tours of London. They're taking them to oh really I'm like I'm not doing that good for them. They're good for the Italians. There's a great Italian cafe actually down by um spores No, where is it? It's kind of by at like sort of behind Milbank Anyway, she's great. She did a full English and she put peppers on there Oh, I thought that was really nice to peppers. I thought it was a really nice meeting of the mines sort of the that that was that to me was integration Yeah, she sat there going That belongs there. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why but it's it's gonna work But beautiful. My nan she used to do like late at night around 10 you know You have your dinner or whatever at eight o'clock at 11 o'clock at night when the film's coming on channel five They should be back in the back in the kitchen peppers are going on going on the grill. Right yourself oily peppers over some fresh bread

36:14P-tellies they're doing it well All right, anything else to say cheap? Well, cheap. Um, Robert Generick had a small announcement this morning But it wasn't very good. He did this Rachel reads his friends where he did this very basic tweet last night at eight thirty a.m I'm going to ruin Rachel Reeves life and tune in and it's going to be a big story and it was a very Bait video We watched briefly before going live and it was it was not interesting There's a compilation of photographs of Rachel Reeves wearing a hijab. Yeah Lost it on that one Well, there you go any more points you'd like to make their Andy Really? Okay But there we go fellas That's what loads of really good stuff coming up this week. I'm quite excited Yes, we do. I'm really looking forward to this week. Good. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I'm too. All right guys enjoy the sun. Bye. Bye

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