Getting The HONEST Truth From Brian Austin Green

0:00This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human. On the Serving Pancakes podcast, conversations about volleyball go beyond the court. Today we have a little best friend compatibility test. Hey, how long have we been best friends? It's just a day we met. As the league won volleyball season heads towards its final stretch, there's no better time to tune in. You'll hear unfiltered analysis behind the scene stories and conversations with leaders making an impact across the sport. Whether you're following the final push of love season or just love the game, Serving Pancakes brings you closer to the action and the people shaping the future of volleyball. Open your free iHeart radio app, search Serving Pancakes, and listen now. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Kahn, the singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit, Stick Season, and one of the biggest voices in music today. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be the thing that I was ashamed of. Getting to talk about this is not common for me. Right now, I need it more than ever.

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2:02We talked about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey man, we got a call last night. You can't be rolled around the city like this tonight before games. Check out Game Recognized Game with Stuy and Miles on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I do part two. It's your celebrity mentor, Kathy Swartz, and one of our newest mentors here on the pod, Ryan Austin Green, and a new friend to me, so glad to have met you. And we're here in beautiful solving together. This is unbelievable. This is really, it's hot outside, but it is gorgeous. It's gorgeous, right? I was hoping you were going to tell my new friendship. How about our new friendship? It did. What if I was saying before and then you cut me off and you told me to shut up,

3:03what a great day today has been. It's been so incredible spending time with you, getting to know you doing this. Okay, you're going to make me cry now. You're going to cry. Well, yeah, soak those up. So, soak those up, those chairs. Okay, Brian, one of the best things about you joining the iDo part two crew is that you get to really bring our listeners inside the mind of a man. And I, for one, absolutely love this. So today, I'm putting you on the spot here. I loved your podcast. I want to grill you on some things. Okay. But you got problems with me. You're going to give me your brutally honest answer. It's all I know. It's like I died. There's nothing like pre-form or pre-fab. Okay, because you know, I didn't even want to know the questions before you get in here. Okay, well, I didn't share them with you, but we're going to go right into this. And these are like rapid fire. Just help me out, okay? Okay, I don't, I'm not rapid. Just so you just know what I heard. Okay, do men find these things attractive or a turn off if a woman does them quickly? Change the tire. Turn off or attractive?

4:04Unnecessary. Um, it's, it's fine. It's fine. How about double text here? How about double texting? Oh, yeah, you're, you're pressuring somebody to respond. Yeah, I don't like that. So Brian, when I text you and you don't answer and I text you again, how you can feel about that? I will erase our conversation completely. And I'll get a divorce ring made that day just so you know, I mean, I think I slept through the marriage, but okay, all right, hang in the curtain rod. You find it attractive or awesome. If I hang the curtain rod. Yeah, I like somebody that that just sort of gets in whether they know how to do it or not and just does it and at least tries it. Love it. Yeah. Have an Instagram or TikTok for their dog or in my case, cat. You have one for your cat? No, but I have two cats. Okay, but you don't have an Instagram for your cat. Well, I did, but just for about 10 seconds divorce ring. Here it comes. You know, I was so in love with you. I think I think that is ridiculous to have an Instagram or social media page for your

5:05and I actually agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. Okay, bench, now I you know, I lift weights bench pressing their body weight attractive or turn off. Depends on what they're doing or for. Okay, let me start over. I bench press weights. What do you do it for? Do you do it for fitness or do you do it for the way you are seen by other people? Fitness totally fitness totally fitness. Then that's awesome. If you can bench press your own weight. Okay. Thank you. I'll continue it. How about this one wearing makeup to the gym? It doesn't make sense. Can I answer this one? Sure. Stupidest thing ever. It just doesn't make any sense to me. It's like you're going to sweat it. Like the idea is that you're going to go there and you're going to work out. You're not wearing makeup for anybody for yourself. You're wearing it for everybody else. That's right. And you shouldn't give a shit. And you're there to work out. So leave the makeup. I think you're going for the wrong reason. Yeah. It's the same way I feel when I go to like a hike and there's somebody walking in nice shoes. It's like, what are you doing? Well, that's just stupid. That's asking for problems with your ankles. It's asking for like multiple trips to the chew store to buy new shoes.

6:06Yeah. I agree. Totally 100%. I have hiking boots. I wear mine. Okay. Talking about this one blows my mind. Talking about astrology and taking it seriously. And like, I don't know what sign you are. What sign are you? I'm a cancer. I'm a, what do you think I am? A tourist? I am. Because you just almost said it. Oh, damn. Okay. But I'm just giving a pretend like I'm psychic. Yeah. And I knew that. You kind of pretend you were psychic. So do you think it's attractive? Or turn off the woman sitting there talking about her astrology sign? Astrological sign. Think, again, I think it depends. It's, I don't, I don't generalize those answers. I think astrology is fun if it's part of somebody. If it's your only thing, that's fucking boring. That's boring. That's boring. Well, that and then like all they want to do is sit and talk about astrology. You're like, can we talk about something else? Yeah, like in the moon of the seventh sun, I'm over it. I'm over it. Totally. I don't care what your like your rising sign is. Yeah.

7:06It's too much. I don't care. Okay. This one, turn off or attractive to drink beer. If a woman drinks a beer, I can't even, we can't even do this one. Like who cares? Yeah, I don't care. You know, if you want to drink it. Okay. Pick up lines. A woman's got some pick up lines. I got some good pick up lines. Is it attractive? If I come up to you and say, hi, Joe, oh, wait. And you go on, my name's not Joe. And I go, oh, I have a friend that looks just like you. Same here. By the way, what's your name? Yeah, that's so cheesy. I, yeah, I'm not a fan of pick up lines. You, that was, that was nice. I'm, and you've never used that one before. This is the first, first time you actually stole it from someone else. And I would never do it. So it's a, it's a sick shooter. I wouldn't know. Sick. Um, we're here on a ranch. So I figured I would tie it all in together. Um, yeah, I don't, to me pick up lines. Like you're starting off the wrong way. Yeah. On the other hand, how the hell are you supposed to meet somebody? If you, you got to say something. Yeah, you walk up and you say, hello, and you say your name and you ask what their name is.

8:07And then you start a conversation. And you see if you guys have anything in common. That's where you don't. That's where to. Then you move the fuck on. All right, all right. What about wearing, um, out leisure wear when not working out, which is how I live. So be careful what you say. Yeah, I don't, I look at me. Like I'm not, I just got my first, you know, country cowboy hat today. Your first, um, I don't, I wear leisure comfortable stuff all the time. The only time I don't is when there's a dress code. Okay, but what about a woman? Do you want a woman evening gown? Doesn't matter. No, I, no, I want somebody to be comfortable. I want to be able to enjoy our day. All right, all right. I like it. All right. Now we're going to move it to some question. So these are tougher, but they're specific for me because I am single. Okay. I was married for many, many moons in my husband passed away. And so I'm in the dating market. I'm not engaged like you are. But you know, if there is a God, this time next year, I'll be right there. No, if there is a God, he's got you on the path that you're supposed to be on.

9:08I actually agree with that. And you will meet someone and you'll be in something if and when you're supposed to be. But if you're searching for it, I agree. You could sidetrack yourself from what path you're actually supposed to be on. Absolutely agree with you. You're such a wise man. I actually agree with you. Okay. So I'm of a certain age and I am very fit and I love to work out. And I have a lot of energy. So I tend to look to date guys younger. So how should I dress? Because, you know, do I want to look my age? Do I want to look younger? You know, sexy, short skirt. How do I look sexy? But also or anything like towards sexy. How do I look that I'm interested and an approachable but also appropriate? Approachable but appropriate. I could have given these questions earlier, but you told me not to. I think, you know, I think, I think honestly, you should dress.

10:10The way you dress. Like it is, it's, again, it's going to depend on what it is you're doing. If you're meeting somebody for the first time, you're going to a nice restaurant, you're going to have dinner, you dress appropriately for that. But you still dress the way you would dress. Don't dress pretending to be somebody else or something else. Because I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment and failure. You are creating a version of yourself that doesn't actually exist. So you're only going to be able to maintain that for so long. Okay, so mostly you're telling me to dress how I feel comfortable. Dressed. So this means that athletes are aware with cowboy boots. It means how you would normally dress. Again, appropriate to the situation. All right. On the serving pancakes podcast, conversations about volleyball go beyond the court. Today we have a little best-spring compatibility test.

11:12Okay, how long have we been best friends for? This is the day we met. As the league won volleyball season heads towards its final stretch, there's no better time to tune in. We really are like Ian and Yang, vodka and tequila. You'll hear unfiltered analysis behind the scene stories and conversations with leaders making an impact across the sport. Today we have Logan Limeke. I feel like our fan base in general is very connected. It's like a comforting feeling getting to play at home. Whether you're following the final push of love season or just love the game, serving pancakes brings you closer to the action and the people shaping the future of volleyball. Jordan Thompson had that microphone out. Got to make mistakes or cuss at our coach. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search serving pancakes and listen now. This has been serving pancakes and we'll catch you on the flip side. Okay. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeartWomenSports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Kahn. The singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global here sticks season

12:15and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a defining moment in his career. It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick. Man, you have no f***ing clue. Talking about the mental illness stuff. It used to be this thing that I was ashamed of. I'm just now trying to unwind this idea that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. If someone says that I suck, I'm like, f***, I suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me. Right now, I need it more than ever. Listen to on-purpose DJ Shetty on the IHAR radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of IHAR Media, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses

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14:19What Kugler did that I think was so unique. Who's he? He's the writer's director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean the like the president? You think it goes to president? The candidate has a president. You think China has a president? Let's walk through that. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it like. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkey's not my circus. Yep. There's a good one. I like that song. It's an actual Polish saying. Yeah. It is an actual Polish. Better version of play stupid games, when stupid prizes. Yes. Which by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What are younger men attracted to? Like, how do I make myself attractive to younger men? It's not the way it's saying it. Oh my God.

15:20Well, I mean, you have to decide what you are really looking for. And if you want to be attracting younger men or not, the reality is that younger men tend to be much more immature than women do. Well, that's true. But here's the thing. Men, my age, I, you know, I talk about it on my podcast. They're used to guys. They used to ski. They used to ride bicycles. They used to golf. You were saying that before. Now they sit on the sofa with the bear and, you know, and a big gut and watch, you know, watch the March Madness. I mean, it's like finding guys who share the same energy that I have. I think, I think being 100% true to your energy is the best thing that you can do. Again, because you're going to be you daily. So you can show up trying to pretend to be something else, but that's not going to last long. And you're going to end up going from a relationship to relationship trying to fit some sort of a mold

16:21that you don't, that isn't you. And you want to find somebody to share your life with. Yeah. And I also want somebody who accepts me for me. So, okay. This, you know, I have a lot of questions to you. So this one, no, I'm just going to keep pummeling you. Yeah. But I do. I think you are a, I mean this, truthfully, I think you're a smart guy with a lot of, you have sage advice. So I'm going to continue on here. It's no surprise to you, even though we just met. I do have a strong personality. No two ways about it. You do. But I also have a soft side. Here's the thing about me. You have to get to know me before I'm going to show you my soft side. And that's just where I'm built. I can't change where I am. How do I not intimidate men so that they're willing to get to know me? I think if you represent yourself in a way where you make it obvious that you're closed off to really connecting with someone, then it becomes intimidating for people to be around you because they feel like what's it going to take for me

17:26to like get past the hard candy shell and get to the gooey center, you know? I think you need to, I think there's a certain point where you maybe just in being honest in a situation and going, listen, I am not someone that opens up right away, then somebody knows that. So then they don't take it personal that you're not opening up. But I think if you don't say that and you just are, you have these walls up and you're a bit distant, people start taking it personally because that's where human beings. And that's kind of the first place we go to is like, oh, they must not like me because they don't want to talk about anything beyond this. Oh, so, so I often, men have said to me, wow, Kathy, you're beautiful, you're smart, but damn, you're a lot. And that hurts my feelings. And so I'll say something like,

18:26I'll say something like, I'm too much, they'll say you're too much and I'll say, I'm too much or maybe you're just not enough. Because to me, if they can't, do you say that though as like a defense mechanism to feel better for yourself? Well, probably because I'm irritated that they don't want to take the time or don't have the ability or whatever it is, especially if I'm attracted to the guy. So you take it as an insult right away when you do that? Yeah, I think I do. But it's mostly because, come on, you're not you, Brian, but a guy that I meet that I'm interested in. Come on, you're a smart guy. Surely you see that there's more to me that I can have a vulnerable side. Are you just, are you not willing to do the work? Like, I don't want to say that, but it's like, you got to put some energy into this. What? Because I'm not a sweet, bless your little soul, kind of girl. But are you, are you not as a defense mechanism or are you not because you just honestly are?

19:28You know what I'm saying? No. Like, is it something that you have built in a lifetime of disappointments and things where you're like, I'm not going to share and connect right away. Instead, I'm going to put this for folks. No, I can, I can tell you honestly. For me, and I've just actually put this together recently. For me to put myself out there and be vulnerable, really be vulnerable and really tell someone that I want them in my life, I'm afraid of being abandoned again. And, you know, my husband died by suicide. And to me, call it whatever you want, it feels like, you know, he left me. I wasn't good. There was a reason he left, right? Even though it's not my fault, I know that. So I don't be left again. So it's, it's, you know, you're right. It's sort of a defense mechanism. I'm not going to put a lot of energy into this because I don't want you leaving me. If I decide I want you and then down the road,

20:29you say, you know, what do you want? I mean, what, what kind of a relationship do you want? Are you looking just to date? No, I'm looking for a permanent. I'm looking, this is I do part two. I'm looking for my part two that I say it many times. This is the last great chapter of my life. I want it to be the best chapter. I want it to be the, you know, the longest it can be. But I want it to be the best and greatest chapter of my life. Notwithstanding the great marriage I had with my husband and my three kids and my three kids. Of course, yeah, for sure. I want to, I look to the future. I try to look in the rearview mirror. So, you know, that's kind of what I'm after. I think though, so it's interesting that you said that that you look to the future instead of in the rearview mirror. But a lot of your actions are looking in the rearview mirror. Oh, man, this is tough. Why do you say that? Because you want, you have these red flags and these things where you're like, okay. I can't make them prove too much. I've, I've experienced this before.

21:29So I'm going to make sure that this hurdle is cleared before I jump in. But then when you look back, or to me at least, when I look back on my life and I think of my best relationships, my best relationship up until the one I'm in now. Because this one we went into in a new way, which was incredibly refreshing, was my first because I went in wholeheartedly. I didn't have any other red flags. I loved her and I was in it. And I had never had my heart broken before. You never had? No, that was my first real relationship. Was the first time I really went into something and went, okay, I'm like, I'm going to do a relationship. But I think that you have to sort of go into all of the relationships in that fresh way. You have to be willing to possibly get hurt to be loved fully and to be in it fully. And really, really appreciate it and have it.

22:29It's the hardest things in life can be the most painful sometimes. But you have to be willing to... So you're saying the risk is worth the reward? It can be, absolutely. Yeah, that's great advice. I mean, I feel like I... It's not easy. It's not easy. And you're right. I mean, you think the road less travel is called the road less traveled for a reason, because it's the harder road to take. Yeah, I'm, how did you get to be so smart? I years of failure. Yeah, well, you know... I'm not afraid to fail at this point in my life. I don't think I'm afraid to fail. I think I'm afraid... I think I'm afraid to be accepted for who I am. Not afraid that that's going to be really hard. Because I'm not your typical woman. I know that. And that's why all the... That's the genesis of all these questions. I think... I didn't say I was special. I'm just different from a lot of my single friends. But you are, but don't say that you're not special. No, I'm saying I'm not...

23:31You know, it's a loaded term. I'm saying I know who I am. I've done a lot of therapy. I'm so clear about who I am and what I want. Mm-hmm. But I think sometimes that gets lost in the translation. Well, and I'm sure a lot of times, too, that will sort of cloud situations where you meet with somebody because you're so set on, I am not going to be who I don't want to be. And this is about me now. And I'm going to, you know, this is my power. And I'm going to take... And you can almost... It's like putting a big log on a tiny fire. How? You know? I mean, I should be paying for this therapy session. Right. But I charge so much money. I'm worth it. I'm worth it. But I think it's, I think it's really important to identify what you really want in a few months. I know exactly what I want. A real, honest, loving relationship. You need to be willing to put yourself out for it.

24:32You need to be willing to take risks for it. And you need to be willing to... Listen, I'm just going to... ...wholeheartedly jump in and go, okay? Like this could hurt at the end, but this could be amazing. But I'm also... Remember, I was married very young. I was 20. So I'm just learning now. I mean, I've got a bunch of other questions that sound so inane, given what we're talking about. No, but... But in yet, and yet, there are questions that are real ways to approach the whole idea of dating. If that makes sense. And so, like, I'm not going to a bar. I mean, I go to lots of bars. I get it. I totally get it. I go to lots of bars. But to meet a guy, I hate dating apps. I don't like them. You know, I've met a few guys but to meet the kind of guy I want at my... It's not the same. That you want to share your life? That you want to... It's not the same as a 20.

25:34So when I think about, you know, do I want to go into a bar and say, hey, Brian, can I buy... You know, what's your name? Whatever it is, you know, can I buy you a drink? Like, I'm not that kind of... And I'm not... I'm from New England. I'm a Boston girl. I'm a Yankee girl, which means I say what I think. I mean what I say. And I come off. Some people will tell me I'm rude. I'm just direct. I don't play games. So you can see that doesn't always play well. So walking up to some guy and say, hey, you know, is your name Joe or whatever. Like, that's really playing games to me. And so, I want your opinion. How do I tweak that? How do I... I... So it's funny that you said that because I've had this conversation with people before. I'm from Los Angeles. And I've had a conversation with people before about, oh, I love New York because they're just, they're honest there and they just tell it like it is. And I always have that question comes into my mind of, are they being honest or are they just being rude

26:36to because it's easier for them? It's easier to just be kind of blunt and whatever and act like you don't care what anybody thinks. But I don't think I'm ever rude. I take it, I am... I try to always be kind to people. That's not if you say, what do you think? Or I'm joking, I'm joking. But I don't tolerate rudeness. I would never describe myself as rude. I agree. Like, I don't tolerate rudeness either. I work really hard. I live consciously every day to make sure that I am kind to everybody that I'm around. Even if I'm having a bad day. Yeah, me too. Because you don't know what kind of day they're having. I always say to people like the only control that I feel like I have in life is the person I choose to be while living it. Yeah, I agree. It's going to do this all the time. I do all those things. I wake up grateful for life. I thank God every day. I find something to be grateful about.

27:38But here's where I get a lot of. I live in Texas. You know, and Southern I'll meet Southern men. And they'll say, I recently met a guy who said, you're so refreshing because, you know, I was married to a Southern bell. And I'm done with Southern bells. I don't want something to want because I'm the opposite of what they had. Right. I want somebody who wants me for me being me. But it's at my age, it's really hard. I don't, it's like, as you get older, you don't have all the tools, all the, not tools. I don't even know how to say it. You don't have access to the game changes. It's, you know, the board, the game, the board of the game changes. It's like that instead of, I mean, I got all these metaphors instead of 52 cards in the deck. Let's cut it down to about 10 cards in the deck because we're not wasting time with, you know, hi, my name is Joe. You look like Joe. So I struggle with being who I am and hoping that a guy sees through it.

28:41Why don't you try making a choice because that's all, that's all it is. I learn in therapy, like the things that I wasn't, that I wasn't good at. That was, that was who I was. I try now to be the person I want to be compared to the person that I am. So I would suggest maybe just really making a very poignant choice to be emotionally honest with people. And sit and go, you know, this like, I normally don't connect this way and I normally don't talk. I don't want you to feel put out or feel like or feel like or feel like I don't genuinely like you and want to try this. But I'm very, I've been through a lot of my life. So what's too soon? What's too soon to say those things? Because I think you say that from the very beginning. I say you start that way. And then, and then if I get your too much,

29:42if they don't, if you get your too much, that is not somebody you want to be with anyway. But you, you, you act that way and you speak that way in the hopes that somebody really genuinely appreciates. Who you are and the person you're trying to be. And they go, oh, I like that you said that. And thank you for telling me that. And so now they've got that in their back pocket. So they, they don't take things personally, which again, like we said before, we tend to do as human beings. On the serving pancakes podcast, conversations about volleyball go beyond the court. Today we have a little best-spring compatibility test. How long have we been best friends for? This is the day we met. As the league won volleyball season heads towards its final stretch, there's no better time to tune in. We really are like Ian and Yang, vodka and tequila. You'll hear unfiltered analysis behind the scene stories and conversations with leaders making an impact across the sport. Today we have Logan LeMeki.

30:43I feel like our fan base in general is very connected, just like a comforting feeling getting to play at home. Whether you're following the final push of love season or just love the game, serving pancakes brings you closer to the action and the people shaping the future of volleyball. Jordan Thompson had that microphone. Oh, God, we made mistakes or cussed at our coach. Like we're talking or two times. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search serving pancakes and listen now. This has been serving pancakes and we'll catch you on the flip side. Okay. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Khan. The singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit Stick Season and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image and the fear of starting again after such a defining moment in his career. It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick.

31:45Man, you have no f***ing clue. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be the thing that I was ashamed of. I'm just now trying to unwind this idea that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. If someone says that I suck, I'm a f***ing guy suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me. Right now, I need it more than ever. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing. I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This season on Math and Magic, I'm talking to CEO of liquid death, Mike Cesario, financier and public health advocate,

32:45Mike Milken. Take two interactive CEO, Strauss Selney. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes, then you can't play in this business. Sesame Street CEO, Sherry Weston, and her own cheap business officer, Lisa Coffee. Making consumers see the value of the human voice and to have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it rise to the top. Listen to Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts are wherever you get your podcast. When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Paul show, we're not afraid to make mistakes. What Kugler did that I think was so unique. Who's he? He's the writer's director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean the president? You think it goes to president? Canada has a president. You think China has a president?

33:46Let's walk through that. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it, like. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. There's a good one. I like that song. Is it an actual Polish saying? Yeah. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of play stupid games when stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Your advice, I wish you could be inside my head. Because a lot of what you're saying, like even this conversation started for me to be honest. Because you've seen me. I'm a joke of minute. I'm just because that's easy for me. It's a defense mission. It's a total, I've been this way my whole life. So, but I do let people in. I do let people in.

34:48But the guys that said me, oh, you're so funny. It's like, make me laugh. It's sometimes I let a man in too soon. That's what I struggle with when you just answer the question. When is it too soon? I guess the answer is it's never too soon. Never too soon. It's never too soon. It's better to jump right into it and then know right away, okay, I'm not going to waste time on this anymore. Then just sit and to try and like put on a happy face and drag it out for three weeks. And then all of a sudden be kind of emotionally connected to it and then be heartbroken if things don't work. Okay, so knowing me as you do, because now we're up fast friends. What knowing my person, what's the biggest red flag I should look out for? That's not going to serve me well. For you? Yeah. Somebody that's somebody that is not going to appreciate your honesty. That to me, you are who you are and you are special because of that. So you want to make sure that you find someone that

35:50appreciates and loves that and gets that sense of like, God, I know I can, I know I can trust you because you're not going to bullshit me. And now that I know you and I have had this conversation and we've really connected, like I know. And I have your fiance's phone number. I have to have a little conversation. But I know that like you and I could talk at any point no matter what is going on in your life, whatever is going on in my life, that will have this. Yeah, do you think people, do you think people appreciate the honesty? For sure. Okay, I think people appreciate anything that normalizes and makes them feel like they're not so alone. Okay, I didn't expect to get this. I mean, I don't think anyone's going to be listening to this podcast. But, but you know what? Maybe someone will listen to it, who I care about, who cares about me. And we'll say, wow, now I get it. That's always my hope is that one person hears because none of what I'm saying is

36:52anything that I found on that I came up with on my own. This is all these are all things that I've heard. And little things that people have said that have become light bulb moments where I go, it's not nearly as hard as I thought it was. It shouldn't be. Okay, well, I, there are, I probably have another hundred questions that I could ask you. And I mean that like I've, I wrote a bunch of questions because I just, you know, you're, you're not a 20-year-old. And, and you've been through life. You've had children, you've had divorces. You have a lot of wisdom that comes with age. So will you maybe come back and do another podcast with me? Absolutely. Okay, I'm going to save my question. Absolutely. Save them. Thank you. I really thank you. Save them or you'll come up with new ones now that we have the, the friendship that we do. Yeah, I really appreciate you sending that and talking with me. And I mean, they're Brian. Thanks. Thanks so much. Do you need some advice straight from a man? Call us or email us. All the info is in the show notes. Follow us on socials. Make sure to rate and review the podcast.

37:53I do part two. And I art radio podcast where falling in love is the main objective. Yeah. On the serving pancakes podcast conversations about volleyball go beyond the court. Today we have a little best-fitting compatibility test. Okay. And how long have we been best friends. It's just a day we met. As the league won volleyball season heads towards its final stretch, there's no better time to tune in. You'll hear unfiltered analysis behind-the-scenes stories and conversations with leaders making an impact across the sport. Whether you're following the final push of Love's season or just love the game, Serving Pancakes brings you closer to the action and the people shaping the future of volleyball. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Serving Pancakes and listen now. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeartWomenSports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Kahn. The singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit, Stick Season,

38:53and one of the biggest voices in music today. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be the thing that I was ashamed of. Getting to talk about this is not common for me. Right now, I need it more than ever. Listen to on-purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, here from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist, Lakisha, Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to community striving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they failed. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. I'm Cheryl Strade, author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things. I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called Mind Over Mountain.

39:55In each episode, I interview athletes, adventurers, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes that informed and inspired their extraordinary feats. So we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human